
ABU DHABI, United Arab Emirates (AP) Former President George W. Bush said on Thursday that theres pretty clear evidence that the Russians meddled in the 2016 American presidential election, forcefully rebutting fellow Republican Donald Trumps denials of Moscow trying to affect the vote.
While never mentioning President Trump by name, Bush appeared to be pushing back on Trumps attempts to have warmer relations with Russia, as well as his comments on immigration.
The White House did not immediately comment on Bushs remarks.
Theres pretty clear evidence that the Russians meddled, Bush said at a talk in Abu Dhabi, the capital of the United Arab Emirates. Whether they affected the outcome is another question.
Bush also said that its problematic that a foreign nation is involved in our election system. Our democracy is only as good as people trust the results.
U.S. intelligence agencies have concluded Russia meddled in the 2016 election to help Trump win. Numerous investigations are under way to determine whether Trumps campaign aided the Kremlin in its efforts.
Trump has repeatedly denied any collusion with Russia.
Speaking of Russian President Vladimir Putin, Bush called him zero-sum.
Hes got a chip on his shoulder, Bush said of Putin. The reason he does is because of the demise of the Soviet Union troubles him. Therefore, much of his moves (are) to regain Soviet hegemony.
Bush also stressed the need to back NATO and other alliances the U.S. has with the world.
Putin is pushing, constantly pushing, probing weaknesses, the former president said. Thats why NATO is very important.
Bush also criticized Trumps decision to scrap a program implemented by former President Barack Obamas administration that allows young immigrants living in the U.S. illegally who were brought here as children to remain in America.
Americas their home, the 43rd American president said. Theyve got to get it fixed.
Bush acknowledged that he tried to overhaul Americas broken immigration system, but failed.
There are people willing to do jobs that Americans wont do, he said. Americans dont want to pick cotton at 105 degrees (Fahrenheit), but there are people who want put food on their familys tables and are willing to do that. We ought to say thank you and welcome them.
Bush in 2008 became the first sitting U.S. president to visit the UAE. He spoke Thursday at a summit in Abu Dhabi put on by the Milken Institute, an economic think tank based in California.
He made his comments while in a conversation with Michael Milken, known as the king of high-risk junk bonds in the 1980s. Milken pleaded guilty to securities-law violations in 1990 and served 22 months in prison. He agreed in a settlement with the SEC to a lifetime ban from the securities industry and paid a $200 million fine.
Milken, who is a prostate cancer survivor, and his family have given hundreds of millions of dollars away in recent decades. Forbes magazine estimates Milken, 71, is now worth some $3.6 billion.
Poster Comment:
W is a bumbling, fumbling oaf who has no damned business bloviating abroad and doing a 'real' president's business. W is a traitor! However, even W is lying when he said the Russians interfered.
#1: VxH To: IbJensen (#0)
Having the (D)rumpf Circus train roll through the swamp will, in the end, have been an instructional leg of the journey towards restoring the American Republic.
https://www.facebook.com/trey gowdy2020/
VxH posted on 2018-02-08 09:12:01 Reply Private Reply
#2: VxH To: IbJensen (#0)
VxH posted on 2018-02-08 09:18:31 Reply Private Reply
#3: rlk To: IbJensen (#0)
rlk posted on 2018-02-08 09:54:22 Reply Private Reply
#4: IbJensen To: rlk (#3)
IbJensen posted on 2018-02-08 10:01:13 Reply Private Reply
#5: Hondo68 To: IbJensen, Saudi Night Fever, *Arab Spring Jihad* (#0)
Der Donnell was much quicker about it, and dubya can't dance!
Hondo68 posted on 2018-02-08 10:53:42 Reply Private Reply
#6: Tooconservative To: IbJensen (#0)
Does this dim bulb actually think people still pick cotton by hand?
What a maroon.
Tooconservative posted on 2018-02-08 10:54:07 Reply Private Reply
#7: no gnu taxes To: Tooconservative (#6)
Automatic cotton pickers became widely available for cotton picking in the 50's. My guess is he was referring to agricultural harvesting in general.
The more important issue is, that I wonder if he realizes how agricultural workers get their jobs. These jobs are not advertised. The subcontractors want to hire illegals because these folks are not likely to cause trouble over many working issues that are law. It's word of mouth strictly to get these jobs.
It's not that Americans don't want to do it; they just don't have much opportunity to do it.
no gnu taxes posted on 2018-02-08 11:09:25 Reply Private Reply
#8: VxH To: no gnu taxes (#7)
Well, back circa 1985, the football coach said "who wants to detassle this summer". That how it worked when I and other college kids were doing a job few folks would want to do.
Never saw any illegal immigrants being used in the corn fields of Nebraska those summers.
Never had any "working issues" to complain about, either.
What sort of "working issues" do they complain about these days?
VxH posted on 2018-02-08 11:28:08 Reply Private Reply
#9: VxH To: no gnu taxes (#7)
Until the subcontrators are held accountable, the ants will keep coming to the sugar bowl.
VxH posted on 2018-02-08 11:30:38 Reply Private Reply
#10: A K A Stone To: VxH (#8)
I helped a guy I worked for on his farm one day. Bailing hay. I didn't like it because in made snot run out of my nose, and I sneezed a lot. I must be allergic to the pollen or something.
A K A Stone posted on 2018-02-08 11:31:26 Reply Private Reply
#11: Hondo68 To: VxH, Reconquista Republicans (#8)
Senator McCain only pays them $50 an hour to pick lettuce?
Hondo68 posted on 2018-02-08 11:37:16 Reply Private Reply
#12: VxH To: A K A Stone (#10)
Pollen or hay dust maybe. I worked at a horse therapy center cleaning up paddocks. Dry and windy/dusty days were always snotty. Just got used to it after a while. Some folk have more severe allergies that would make it dangerous for them to be there at all... and if that's the case, they'd need to choose some environment more compatible with their genome.
Detasling corn was hot, humid, muddy, physically demanding labor.
Still, can't imagine complaining about any of that. It goes with the job. It'd be like working at a ski resort and then complaining that snow is slippery and cold.
VxH posted on 2018-02-08 11:40:02 Reply Private Reply
#13: VxH To: hondo68 (#11)
McStain, the Admiral's Son, never worked a day in his life.
VxH posted on 2018-02-08 11:42:38 Reply Private Reply
#14: A K A Stone To: VxH (#12)
A K A Stone posted on 2018-02-08 11:44:21 Reply Private Reply
#15: IbJensen To: rlk (#3)
Bush I and II were examples of the two corrupted parties offering us 'Poison' or 'Poison Lite'.
IbJensen posted on 2018-02-08 11:55:16 Reply Private Reply
#16: VxH To: A K A Stone (#14)
Once upon a time America was like that.
I worked for an engineering & construction company back circa 1989 that had all kinds of people - libs, conservatives, Rs, Ds, Mormons, Catholics, Lutherans.
Everybody talked about everything and nobody ever got fired unless they weren't performing their job.
Different world today. Snowflakes become predatory when they have sufficient numbers. Conform to the hive-culture, or else.
VxH posted on 2018-02-08 11:55:54 Reply Private Reply
#17: BorisY To: IbJensen (#0)
LefTisT sTooge
Born again bolshevik
Maga
boris
BorisY posted on 2018-02-08 11:58:34 Reply Private Reply
#18: Liberator To: IbJensen (#0)
Ab-so-freakin-lutely spot on! That this bumbling idiotic globalist sock-puppet became President (R) is embarrassing. But hey -- could have also been Jeb ("PLEASE CLAP") Bush as well.
That's a great tagline, btw. Merely 3 years ago it would have gotten you banned at FR. But then you got banned in any case ;-) (Exactly what DID you get banned for??)
Liberator posted on 2018-02-08 12:03:34 Reply Private Reply
#19: Liberator To: VxH (#1)
Liberator posted on 2018-02-08 12:05:15 Reply Private Reply
#20: Liberator To: rlk (#3)
He's in pretty good shape. The NWO Globalist Cabal plan on rolling Dubya out as needed to help sabotage Trump and his America First agenda any way they can.
Personally I believe it's backfiring. Anyone with a brain knows W is obviously a treasonous, alcoholic clown.
Liberator posted on 2018-02-08 12:08:22 Reply Private Reply
#21: VxH To: Liberator (#19)
Common knowledge.
VxH posted on 2018-02-08 12:11:42 Reply Private Reply
#22: buckeroo To: Liberator (#20)
You are promulgating a conspiracy theory.
buckeroo posted on 2018-02-08 12:12:09 Reply Private Reply
#23: Liberator To: Tooconservative (#6)
Dunno who ok's Dubya's public statements, but the one above may be one his dopiest. I don't think Dubya ever matured mentally past 18-19 yo.
I presume he hits the sauce VERY hard (you saw a drunken giddy Dubya being disciplined by a sober Mooch at that funeral, right?) The guy possesses all the gravitas of a George Costanza walking out of a bathroom at a party minus his shirt.
Liberator posted on 2018-02-08 12:14:55 Reply Private Reply
#24: Liberator To: VxH (#21)
Liberator posted on 2018-02-08 12:15:39 Reply Private Reply
#25: Liberator To: buckeroo (#22)
Liberator posted on 2018-02-08 12:16:49 Reply Private Reply
#26: Tooconservative To: no gnu taxes (#7)
I wouldn't bet on that. He's a dumbass, totally out of touch with the real world. Maybe even more so than Trump.
Tooconservative posted on 2018-02-08 12:19:47 Reply Private Reply
#27: no gnu taxes To: VxH (#8)
overtime pay and safety mostly.
Although, they mostly hire people who won't complain and pay them under the table.
Anyway, the subcontractors won't hire anybody is who likely to complain at all.
no gnu taxes posted on 2018-02-08 12:20:59 Reply Private Reply
#28: Tooconservative To: Liberator (#23)
I've wondered if he's back on the sauce, maybe quietly drinking himself to death while he paints those really awful paintings of various military vets he was responsible for maiming during his illegal and unfounded war on the people of Iraq.
Tooconservative posted on 2018-02-08 12:23:21 Reply Private Reply
#29: VxH To: Liberator (#24)
Nah, naming a whore house "The Poodle Dog" like Grandpa Drumpf - that's warped:
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"A 22-year-old Frederick opened a 24-hour establishment called the Poodle Dog in Seattles red light district "
http://metro.co.uk/2016/10/20/donald-trumps-fortune-is-built-on- money-from-prostitutes-and-brothels-6203104"
Poodles like LGBT Prince Jwad seem to be enjoying the amenities of the kennel, however.
VxH posted on 2018-02-08 12:25:47 Reply Private Reply
#30: Liberator To: Tooconservative (#28)
But let's be honest -- Dubya was just a sock-puppet. He had NO idea WTH was going on or had an inkling what policies or agenda he was signing off on. Unlike Trump who is hands on on quite a bit...
Liberator posted on 2018-02-08 12:30:12 Reply Private Reply
#31: Liberator To: Tooconservative (#26)
Ok, let's hear this...
Liberator posted on 2018-02-08 12:30:58 Reply Private Reply
#32: VxH To: no gnu taxes (#27)
Yeah, sounds like the subcontractors need to be held accountable.
My wife grew up on a family farm. Overtime? LOL.
If corporate parasites, their Subcontractors, and their methods of doing bidness are held accountable - the family farming models that won WWII and survived until the 80's might actually become practical again -- Much to the chagrine of the social engineers who milk the city hive like a cash cow.
VxH posted on 2018-02-08 12:33:39 Reply Private Reply
#33: VxH To: Liberator (#24)
VxH posted on 2018-02-08 12:56:32 Reply Private Reply
#34: no gnu taxes To: VxH (#32)
Well, it appears you you may be still be right about this. There is no standard, as far as I can tell, about wages agricultural laborers have to be paid.
Still, the employees pay no taxes on their earnings.
I had worse jobs when I was a young man. How would these folks like to cut right of ways through snake and insect infested woods? At least in a tobacco field, you don't have a nest of wasps as big as watermelons stinging and chasing you.
no gnu taxes posted on 2018-02-08 14:15:17 Reply Private Reply
#35: sneakypete To: IbJensen (#0)
Abu Dhabi?
I guess his pimp daddies called him home.
sneakypete posted on 2018-02-08 14:32:50 Reply Private Reply
#36: rlk To: Liberator (#23)
I sincerely believe he maxed out at the 12 year old level.
rlk posted on 2018-02-08 14:35:29 Reply Private Reply
#37: sneakypete To: A K A Stone (#14)
Most farmers LOVE Dims because it was and is the Dims who give them all that farm welfare money to not plant crops or cut timber.
A local farmer ran for county commissioner a few years back on a "I am going back on spending because the government gives too much money away!" platform.
He had to drop out before the election when it was revealed he was pulling in more than a million bucks each year in Farm Aid programs to NOT grow crops.
Pretty much every big farmer you see these days is a Millionaire Marxist that rants and raves about welfare,but oddly enough doesn't see the land band and timber bank programs as welfare for the wealthy.
Go figure,huh?
sneakypete posted on 2018-02-08 14:47:03 Reply Private Reply
#38: sneakypete To: IbJensen (#15)
Of course there is. They are all whores being pimped out by the same people,and in the cases of Boy Jorge and Bathhouse Barry,used to bending over and grabbing their ankles for extra spending money. Muslims may love to hump goats,but even most Muslims wouldn't hump Bubbette!
sneakypete posted on 2018-02-08 14:49:29 Reply Private Reply
#39: sneakypete To: Liberator (#20)
Not to mention a coke head homosexual with severe emotional problems because he is also a fundie Christian homo.
sneakypete posted on 2018-02-08 14:52:04 Reply Private Reply
#40: sneakypete To: Liberator (#30)
True,he was just doing what his mama told him to do.
Babs is the evil mastermind in that family.
sneakypete posted on 2018-02-08 15:06:08 Reply Private Reply
#41: sneakypete To: VxH (#32)
Never going to happen. For one thing,there is no such critter as a family farm anymore. They are all corporate farms. Some/most of the bigger ones are owned by majority stockholders who have never farmed a day in their lives,unless you consider picking stocks to be farming cash.
sneakypete posted on 2018-02-08 15:08:51 Reply Private Reply
#42: VxH To: sneakypete (#41)
My wife has cousins who still farm. None of the small milking operations like she grew up on are still operating though.
The local corporate cheese factory refused to deal with anyone not having some minimum number of cow. All the little guys got driven out of business.
VxH posted on 2018-02-08 15:23:50 Reply Private Reply
#43: sneakypete To: VxH (#42)
Yup,they either incorporated,or they were taxed out of existence.
sneakypete posted on 2018-02-08 15:26:05 Reply Private Reply
#44: VxH To: sneakypete (#43)
Yet.
VxH posted on 2018-02-08 15:27:55 Reply Private Reply
#45: Liberator To: rlk (#36)
You may be right; I was just giving the dolt the benefit of doubt.
Liberator posted on 2018-02-08 15:29:05 Reply Private Reply
#46: sneakypete To: VxH (#44)
"Yet".
Glad to see you included the key word.
sneakypete posted on 2018-02-08 15:48:49 Reply Private Reply
#47: Liberator To: sneakypete (#39)
Yes, of course. FR's JR also called the cokehead part right early and often. It wasn't until later on that we all added 2+2 on the homo-alky portion, a W who seemed emotionally stunted or abused.
... because he is also a fundie Christian homo.
Now why must you go here with the "Christian fundie" crap?
Firstly, I can't say I know what Dubya's faith was/is, but he or his handlers wanted to portray him as a Christian. As a matter of political expediency.
Secondly, THE USA is now a chaotic mess, bereft of any moral or ethical standards; insanely confused, divided and Balkinized...
So why is that?
It appears we CAN thank the militant Atheists and secular humanist crowds who've been major advocates to turn the entire USA into San Francisco. They've managed to normaliz moral relativity and depravity, justified pathological lying, making the entire Dem Party Communist, and half the (R) Party lying globalist whores...
It appears we can also thank/blame the militant Atheists and humanist crowds for normalizing trannies and rife faggotry; for feminizing boys; for dressing up their children as mini-trannies; For criminalizing and slandering "whites"; for instituting "Hate Speech & Crimes"; for rewarding "victims," the petty and small, bullies, and big mouths who won't respect privacy or free speech; for normalizing the hatred of LE and a patriotic military; for normalizing subversion throughout a formerly polite society as militant Atheists/secular humanists have attempted to drive out Christians, and you know -- those you hate, "Fundies" -- from the Public Square.
You've sown it, now you get to reap its aftermath. WOO-HOO!!
So as your ilk insist on cheering on the demonizing and driving out Christians, whose philosophical descendants were our Founders, our nation's moderating influence upon morality and ethics in the USA (we've seen how that's worked out in Muslim-owned Europe) will disappear into the dark fog. Institutions and society will continue to crumble before our very eyes and devolve into mega-chaos, division, and confusion. And then something horrible will fill the void.
Liberator posted on 2018-02-08 16:28:48 Reply Private Reply
#48: Liberator To: sneakypete (#40)
I also believe this is largely true.
You wonder why no book has been written on the subject? Of all the First Ladies, Babs has been the most mysterious by far. And frankly, suspect.
Liberator posted on 2018-02-08 16:29:55 Reply Private Reply
#49: Stoner To: Liberator (#30)
And maybe some nose candy also ???
Stoner posted on 2018-02-08 16:34:36 Reply Private Reply
#50: Stoner To: Tooconservative (#26)
He probably does not know where he shit last, or even if he did.
Stoner posted on 2018-02-08 18:09:26 Reply Private Reply