L.A. has been a hive of cop-haters for decades. No surprise that a crowd will gather to jibe at cops for most any reason. Many cities in CA are like this.

Regardless of politics, police should conform to the societal norms of the people they police. It's not the role of police to force a new standard of conduct upon entire societies.

Apparently, that would include you.

Sigh.....

Regardless of politics, police should conform to the societal norms of the people they police. It's not the role of police to force a new standard of conduct upon entire societies.

What if their societal norm is peddling narcotics to children, molesting children and other helpless persons, letting pimps engage in white slavery, or just defying the law in general on principle?

Do you understand the basic concept of rule of law?

Sigh.....

Sigh...

If there are posted rules

"if"... "rules"...??

It is neither “if” nor “rules”. It is the “law.”

The officer acted properly in accordance with Los Angeles City Ordinance Sections 6-05-40(A),6-05-100,6-05- 110,6-05-150,6-05-230(C) and Section 6-05-240(A) when he was directed and assigned duty aboard the Red Line Metrorail. Because of recent passengers complaints about the many various problems. the LAPD assigned officers to trains when they launched a recent crackdown on violations including eating, drinking, vaping, gambling, littering and placing feet or shoes on seats. The Ordinance was enacted pursuant to the authority granted to Metro by the California Penal Code Section 640(e) and the California Public Utilities Code Section 99580, et seq.

I'm no longer interested in discussing this topic with you.

coward

We find this on page 15 of L.A.'s Metro Rules and Regulations:

The officer acted properly in accordance with Los Angeles City Ordinance Sections 6-05-40(A),6-05-100,6-05- 110,6-05-150,6-05-230(C) and Section 6-05-240(A) when he was directed and assigned duty aboard the Red Line Metrorail. Because of recent passengers complaints about the many various problems. the LAPD assigned officers to trains when they launched a recent crackdown on violations including eating, drinking, vaping, gambling, littering and placing feet or shoes on seats. The Ordinance was enacted pursuant to the authority granted to Metro by the California Penal Code Section 640(e) and the California Public Utilities Code Section 99580, et seq.

It has to be pretty bad because normally the subway is the jurisdiction of the sheriff's department, not the LAPD.

It only makes things worse because L.A. has buses and subways that use fabric-covered seats, a breeding ground for all kinds of bacteria, viruses, fecal material, even fleas and crabs.

I'm no longer interested in discussing this topic with you.

Tough titty. Bozo me if you can't take it.

It's not the role of police to force a new standard of conduct upon entire societies.

You are wrong, it was the role of this officer because he was assigned to the train with directed duty to enforce the Metro Code of Conduct Ordinance as amended on 05/01/2017.

I'm no longer interested in discussing this topic with you.

It is so very easy to understand why ...

"This is racism!". LOL

Tough titty. Bozo me if you can't take it.

Listen dude. I'm not the one that posted not one, but TWO photos of people defecating in public. On. this. site. YOU did that. Not me. You didn't need to do that to convey the point the article made, but you CHOSE to do that.

And now there's more fecal discussion on you responses here, and solely because of that one single sentence where I point that out, you are throwing a hissy fit inviting me to bozo you.

Get a grip. Maybe on youself. Feel free to interpret that in any manner you wish, vulgar or not.

You are very smart.

You are very smart.

Well, thanks for your astute observation.

It has to be pretty bad ..

The Los Angeles Police Department has now launched a use-of-force investigation into a videotaped incident in which a sergeant pulled a young woman from a Metro subway train and then detained her because she refused to take her foot off a seat, according to the video and authorities.

“This is another fine mess you tried to get someone to understand this morning, Ollie”.

I'm no longer interested in discussing this topic with you.

coward

Sound good ...

Listen dude.

Ah, you got to him ...

Good for your !!!

Well, thanks for your astute observation.

Why, the observation is not astute in the least. Your intellectual capacity is plainly obvious to all.

But I'm glad my comment makes you feel good. I've done my good deed for the day.

Listen dude. I'm not the one that posted not one, but TWO photos of people defecating in public. On. this. site. YOU did that. Not me. You didn't need to do that to convey the point the article made, but you CHOSE to do that.

I was driving home the point that these African shitholes are, literally, shitholes.

If the truth offends you, so be it.

Your intellectual capacity is plainly obvious to all.

As is yours, senor.

Hey, how often do the ferries go out to the Galapagos Islands?

Hey, how often do the ferries go out to the Galapagos Islands?

Galliwiki: Public Ferry Schedules in the Galapagos Islands, 2016

Travel from Ecuador to the Galopagos by boat is possible but these are cargo ships and have very basic accommodations. They take 3-4 days on typically rough seas and cost the same as just flying to the islands. Almost everyone flies to the islands as a result.

If the truth offends you ...

A more descriptive accounting can be found HERE. .

But i was just subtly trying to make another point.

I doubt i will be in Ecuador anytime in the near future.

They deserved to be arrested.

Nava told the officer as he laid his hands on her and pushed her off the train.

Unless the train was still moving, fuck her.

Despite the occasional earthquakes, Ecuador is a pretty nice country overall.

I have no doubt about that.

I'm not so sure about Brazil.

The worst are Haiti, Honduras, and Nicaragua. Well, now Venezuela. Who knows what goes on in Cuba.

If there were "rules" (and not laws) against putting feet up on seats, the cop could have handled it in a much more amicable and friendly way, such as asking nicely and pointing out the health reason for it. But for too many cops, getting belligerent and physical with arrests is the only way to get messages across.

He did start off nicely. Then the dreamer got all mouthy. Her bad attitude caused the whole incident. If she had complied she would have been fine. Probably thrown off at worse, free to get on the next one.

Soon after, backup officers arrived. Instead of questioning the validity of the arrest, they promptly placed the two ladies in handcuffs and carted them off to jail.

Excellent news. That spoiled bitch had no right to put her shoes up on a seat where someone else would be sitting. Who knows how much feces,blood,and urine those shoes walked through before being placed on the seat cushion?

Little girl,the world does NOT revolve around you. There are other people here who you must share it with.

All the stupid bitch had to do was comply with the rules and take her foot off the seat.

Where anyone not raised by wild wolves or the equivalent would know she had no business putting her feet,anyhow.

The fat ugly one caus3d a lot of the problem. Then there 8s the faggot recorder talking at the end. Yeah you can tell by his voice.

I'm no longer interested in discussing this topic with you.

Because you are wrong,and don't want to admit it.

The fat obnoxious bitch spits at the officer.

SPITS at him?

That is assault anywhere you go.

It could even be assault with a deadly weapon if the spitter has a contagious disease.

I'm not a cop,but if somebody spits on me,I WILL change their life.

Because you are wrong,and don't want to admit it.

I freely admit when I'm wrong. It's a greater error to refuse to admit one was wrong than to be wrong in the first place, which is something most people don't understand.

But I am absolutely right when I disengage from attempts to discuss things when no discussion is taking place. I have better things to do with my time.

Do you still think I'm wrong?

Do you still think I'm wrong?

The girl was wrong and you were wrong to try and defend her.

Big mouTh

Bad aTTiTude

Typical lib

She should be on The TonighT show

Cnn

Wow
boris

A more descriptive accounting can be found HERE. .

"I had my foot there because I was comfortable like that"

And she's entitled to her "comfort" - regardless of the people standing without a seat; and regardless of the filth she's spreading by ignoring the rules.

SMH

Kids these days.

Do you still think I'm wrong?

Yes,no matter how much you want to tapdance around it,the girl was wrong and she was breaking the law.

Kids these days.

Let's put the blame where it lies,at the feet of their parents.

Let's put the blame where it lies,at the feet of their parents.

Multiple generations of FAIL.

It is reasonable for the cops to "swarm" like that at the end. When you have troublemakers resisting and causing problems they bring in a bunch of people to keep the situation under control.

I'll say this much: I only watched the beginning few minutes, until just after the cop called for backup and it seemed to just be arguing at that point.

If anyone spit on the cop, that's wrong. It's wrong any time anyone does it to anyone else, cop or no cop.

And if there is indeed a law against having feet up on a seat, fine.

But here's my point: Good policing does not consist of going around busting everyone for every last infraction that's on the books. Anyone who disagrees should have no problem with getting a traffic citation for failing to signal for a lane change. There are a couple people on this site who's model law enforcement officer is none other than Inspector Javert, the antagonist in Les Miserables, who had no problem with a man being placed in jail for 5 years for stealing bread, because "the law is the law". Never any room for consideration of basic human needs, or more broadly, basic humanity.

Now there are 2 ways a cop could approach someone like this girl who had her feet up on a seat. One is the brute force "Inspector Javert" way we see in the video (though we don't see how it began so maybe the girl was first to get bitchy).

The second way is, given she wasn't a mugger or threatening to shoot anyone who looked at her funny, to approach her in a much more positive, light hearted manner informing her of the reason it's not good for others to sit like that, engaging her in a much more friendly manner.

The first way certainly sends a message, but it creates animosity and is bad PR, not just between the arrested girl and the police, but everyone who witnessed any part of it. The second way actually has a better chance of educating in a positive manner and actually changing behavior when cops are not around.

And in my view, that is just so much better. No arrests. No court cases. No lawyers involved... no one getting spit on.... what's not to like?

This guy understands it:

But here's my point: Good policing does not consist of going around busting everyone for every last infraction that's on the books. Anyone who disagrees should have no problem with getting a traffic citation for failing to signal for a lane change. There are a couple people on this site who's model law enforcement officer is none other than Inspector Javert, the antagonist in Les Miserables, who had no problem with a man being placed in jail for 5 years for stealing bread, because "the law is the law". Never any room for consideration of basic human needs, or more broadly, basic humanity.

There can be no question about that,but one stereotype doesn't justify another.

Watch the rest of it. She starts throwing "F Bombs" and a crowd starts gathering. One guy with a serious lisp is always circling around behind the lone cop trying to talk him into letting her go,and she is struggling and trying to get away. While this is going on,another larger (ok,fat) Hispanic woman approaches the cop and SHE starts throwing F bombs and screaming "racism".

Meanwhile the cop hasn't harmed anyone,and is surrounded down in a subway. So he calls for backup,which he would have had to have done anyhow because he can only search a female suspect in an emergency,and because he now has TWO,and maybe three or more people interfering with a legal arrest,which is a crime in itself.

What would YOU do,risk facing an angry and racist brown crowd in LA by yourself,or would you call for backup before it got out of hand,too? Also,you might want to read the comments section and all the replies that say the cop should have been killed.

The entire tale is fraught with the type of accounts and exchanges that are usually found in...an inner-city ZOO.

Hard to believe that any of this went down as its told...

All the stupid bitch had to do was comply with the rules and take her foot off the seat.

Right. BUT...that's her "right".

/s

The cop did nothing wrong. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of subway riders want the cops to stand up to these punks.

10-4

Watch the rest of it. She starts throwing "F Bombs"

At that point, it's too late so no need to watch more. By that time, the cop already approached the offending girl in the manner he chose and hostilities are already on the burner. Of course things will get worse after that.

What I'm talking about is approaching differently, diplomatically, and positively so things don't reach this irreversible level of hostility. Again, this is not a case where the girl was threatening to shoot anyone or otherwise disturbing anyone else on the train.

The cops in the 2 vids I posted do it right. It's the mindset of the cops when they FIRST approach an infractor that makes the difference.

Apparently, a lot of bystanders who probably use the subway frequently sided with the girl against the cop. That's generally a sign that the girl's sitting habits were acceptable norms on this subway...

OR...maybe this was an opportunist's way of sticking it to The Man.

I don't think we're getting a neutral or fair way of reporting this incident. Not that it matters. Frankly, this is an example of petty BS reporting designed to create frothy emotions, divisions, and hate. "News" stories like this are a penny a dozen.