The Trump administration has waived part of the punishment for five megabanks whose affiliates were convicted and fined for manipulating global interest rates. One of the Trump administration waivers was granted to Deutsche Bank which is owed at least $130 million by President Donald Trump and his business empire, and has also been fined for its role in a Russian money laundering scheme.
The waivers were issued in a little-noticed announcement published in the Federal Register during the Christmas holiday week. They come less than two years after then-candidate Trump promised I'm not going to let Wall Street get away with murder.
Under laws designed to protect retirement savings, financial firms whose affiliates have been convicted of violating securities statutes are effectively barred from the lucrative business of managing those savings. However, that punishment can be avoided if the firms manage to secure a special exemption from the U.S. Department of Labor, allowing them to keep their status as qualified professional asset managers.
In late 2016, the Obama administration extended temporary one-year waivers to five banks Citigroup, JPMorgan, Barclays, UBS and Deutsche Bank. Late last month, the Trump administration issued new, longer waivers for those same banks, granting Citigroup, JPMorgan, and Barclays five-year exemptions. UBS and Deutsche Bank received three-year exemptions.
In the year leading up to the new waiver for Deustche Bank, Trumps financial relationship with the firm has prompted allegations of a conflict of interest. The bank has not only sought the Labor Department waiver from the administration, it has also faced Justice Department scrutiny and five separate government-appointed independent monitors. Meanwhile, the New York Times recently reported that federal prosecutors subpoenaed Deutsche for bank records about entities associated with the family company of Jared Kushner, President Trumps son-in-law and senior adviser.
All of these interactions with the Trump administration and the federal government are transpiring as Deutsche serves as a key creditor for the presidents businesses.
Trump owes the German bank at least $130 million in loans, according to the presidents most recent financial disclosure form. Sources have told the Financial Times the total amount of money Trump owes Deutsche is likely around $300 million. The presidents relationship with the bank dates back to the late 1990s, when it was the one major Wall Street bank willing to extend him credit after a series of bankruptcies. In 2016, the Wall Street Journal reported Trump and his companies have received at least $2.5 billion in loans from Deutsche Bank and co-lenders since 1998.
The relationship has had problems. After the financial crash, Trump defaulted on a $640 million loan from the bank. Deutsche brought Trump to court, and the famously litigious real estate mogul countersued for $3 billion in damages, claiming the financial crisis was a force majeure event that Deutsche Bank helped create. But the rift was short-lived: the parties settled, the loan was repaid, and Deutsche was soon lending to Trump again.
In December, Bloomberg and others reported the bank had turned over financial records to special prosecutor Robert Mueller after his office subpoenaed the records as part of his investigation into possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia during the 2016 election. Trumps lawyers have called that reporting inaccurate.
We have confirmed that the news reports that the Special Counsel had subpoenaed financial records relating to the President are false, Trump attorney Jay Sekulow said in a statement. No subpoena has been issued or received. We have confirmed this with the bank and other sources.
Less than three weeks later, the New York Times reported federal prosecutors had subpoenaed Deutsche Bank records related to White House senior adviser and Trump son-in-law Kushner and his vast business holdings. There is no evidence those subpoenas were related to Muellers investigation.
The subpoenas come less than a year after Deutsche Bank was fined $425 million by New York State for laundering $10 billion out of Russia.
All five of the banks granted waivers from the Obama and Trump administration were fined for their involvement in the LIBOR scandal that led to $9 billion worth of fines from regulators around the world. Deutsche Bank has paid $3.5 billion for its role in the scandal, more than any other bank. The scandal involved illegally manipulating the London Interbank Offered Rate or LIBOR, which is used to set the cost of borrowing for a variety of financial transactions.
In 2015, Deutsche Bank pled guilty in the U.S. to wire fraud for its role in the scandal. Less than two years later, in the final hours of the Obama administration, Deutsche Bank agreed to a $7.2 billion settlement with the Justice Department for misleading investors in mortgage-backed securities between 2006 and 2007.
#1: Hondo68 To: Deckard, Belize Bank, buckeroo (#0)
The Marxist swine!
Trump figures that they need at least 3 year extensions. Too BIG to fail!
Hondo68 posted on 2018-01-11 10:35:21 Reply Private Reply
#2: Deckard To: hondo68, Gatlin, A K A Stone (#1)
Does this count as another broken campaign promise, or is it just Trump just "refining his stance"?
Deckard posted on 2018-01-11 11:01:43 Reply Private Reply
#3: calcon To: Deckard, hondo68, OTHER RESISTANCE ASSCLOWNS (#0)
calcon posted on 2018-01-11 14:18:50 Reply Private Reply
#4: Gatlin To: Deckard, Pimp for Yellow Journalism, A K A Stone (#2)
There is NO waiver of punishment. The waivers are for a specific thing necessary to benefit millions of ordinary folks and their retirement plans.
BTW....the Trump administration struck a tougher posture than did the Obama administration on two of the banks, Deutsche Bank and UBS.
If you have contradictory information....then lets have it. Otherwise, dont bother me.
Gatlin posted on 2018-01-11 17:11:07 Reply Private Reply
#5: Hondo68 To: Gatlin, compulsive liar (#4)
Lying Gatlin! Obama only gave them all a 1 year extension. Trump gave those two banks 3 year extensions. He gave the other three banks 5 year extensions. Trump is very much the weakling banker lackey. Sad to say, but that worthless Kenyan is tougher and more pro-American than el Donaldo.
This is posted in the article, and also I quoted Obama's 1 year extension in my post #1. Read the truth, if you can handle it, blind liar.
Once again, for the lying moron trumptard Gatlin....
Pull your head out tater tard, and STOP with the lying please! No one believes you anyway.Hondo68 posted on 2018-01-11 17:49:01 Reply Private Reply
#6: Deckard To: hondo68 (#5)
Gatslime is the ultimate Trump-Bot. Reminds me a lot of the Bush-Bots after 9/11 who ate Freedom Fries and boycotted the Dixie Chicks.
In fact I bet he still believes Bush told the truth about WMDs.
Sorry I just don't get all of this blind Trump-Worship.
Deckard posted on 2018-01-11 18:03:36 Reply Private Reply
#7: Deckard To: Gatlin (#4)
I'd say he's doing a pretty good job on his own.
Deckard posted on 2018-01-11 18:06:31 Reply Private Reply
#8: Gatlin To: hondo68, Deckard, A K A Stone (#5)
THAT PORTION IS TRUE. BUT
The headline is a lie and the article is misleading yellow journalism by presenting only partial facts .just enough facts to dupe the you ignorant bastards who have nothing in mind except to discredit Trump.
The main question the article neglected to answer was WHAT were the waivers for? Only the retirement funds, right? The secondary question is why were the waivers required and granted?
The second thing not mentioned was that the extended temporary one-year waiver was only part of the Obama plan .the second part of Obamas plan was to extend an IMPORTANT and NECESSARY portion of waivers to all banks by another five years. Trump knows the banks HAD to have the extension to save pension funds for MILLIONS of people. He extended the waiver on the retirement plans for the same reason Obama was going to have to for another five years. It is IMPOSSIBLE to liquidate BILLIONS and BILLIONS and BILLIONS of dollars in MILLIONS and MILLIONS of retire plans. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO DO SO. The banks still had to pay the fines and Deutsche Bank paid the most .$3.5 Billion. Deutsche Band and UBS only got a three-year waiver on the retirement instead of the five-year waiver on the retirement plans the other received. WHY? That is not stated anywhere.
You obviously dont know enough about the situation to intelligently discuss it. The only thing you do is take a couple of sentences out of the misleading article .quote them, and believe them because thats ALL the information the article presents to you.
REMEMBER, the key questions: The waivers were not blanket waivers from PUNISHMENT as the article suggests .what were the waivers for and why were they absolutely necessary?
If you want to discuss that, then Im Your Huckleberry. If you dont have enough information to intelligently discuss what is actually going on with the waivers .then go learn about them and get back to me.
Gatlin posted on 2018-01-11 18:33:21 Reply Private Reply
#9: Gatlin To: Deckard, A K A Stone (#7)
If, thats what you want to believe .then go ahead. You have that right.
But right now, we are discussing WAIVERS and you do need to stay on point.
The headline in the article you posted is a LIE and only partial information is presented in the article.
That makes your article yellow journalism.
Ping me when you have ascertained factual information .as then, we can continue this discussion.
Gatlin posted on 2018-01-11 18:46:36 Reply Private Reply
#10: Gatlin To: Deckard, A K A Stone (#6)
Presenting factual information when a misrepresentation has been made is not blind Trump worship.
Again....ping me when you get the facts straight.
Gatlin posted on 2018-01-11 18:50:43 Reply Private Reply
#11: GrandIsland To: Gatlin (#9)
Did you expect any less out of the kook? He's been allowed to act like antifa, on forums for so long, he doesn't probably know what a disingenuous asshole he is.
GrandIsland posted on 2018-01-11 18:51:43 Reply Private Reply
#12: Gatlin To: Deckard, hondo68, GrandIsland, A K A Stone (#10)
Without waivers, criminal convictions for market manipulation would have disqualified banks asset-management units under U.S. law.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/labor-department-grants-banks- multiyear-waivers-to-manage-retirement-plans-1514496653.
Stone, I recommend you delete this thread....I hate to see this lie continue to be perpetuated by these two assholes. Someone reading the headline and not reading the comments probably will believe it.
Gatlin posted on 2018-01-11 19:00:05 Reply Private Reply
#13: GrandIsland To: Gatlin (#12)
He's a CNN flunkie... and a past press spokesman for SOCIALIST SANDERS.
Right up DickTards alley.
GrandIsland posted on 2018-01-11 19:23:45 Reply Private Reply
#14: Hondo68 To: Gatlin, Obama apologist (#8)
Do your own research into why you worship Obama, and love the fact that President Trump is extending his disgraceful actions MUCH longer. .
Hondo68 posted on 2018-01-11 19:26:47 Reply Private Reply
#15: Deckard To: hondo68 (#14)
Hey - it's only wrong when a Democrat does it.
At least that's what Gatlin believes.
Some of these Trump-Bots have no principles whatsoever.
Deckard posted on 2018-01-11 19:32:25 Reply Private Reply
#16: Gatlin To: hondo68, Deckard, A K A Stone (#14)
You CANT because the whole article is a misrepresentation .a LIE.
You got caught up in prompting a lie, at first .then when I called you on it with facts, defending the lie.
Yu made an ass of yourself .but then, thats nothing new for you and your buddy.
Gatlin posted on 2018-01-11 19:43:44 Reply Private Reply
#17: Gatlin To: Deckard, A K A Stone (#15)
Gatlin posted on 2018-01-11 19:45:18 Reply Private Reply
#18: GrandIsland To: Deckard (#0)
He's a self admitted snowflake... and a HUGE POTHEAD activist. DickTard, you always smell of hippie liberal.
GrandIsland posted on 2018-01-11 19:45:32 Reply Private Reply
#19: Deckard To: Gatlin (#17)
So you say.
Of course Stone is a Trump cultist too so I'm sure he'll go with your bullshit claim that the story is not factual.
Deckard posted on 2018-01-11 19:56:28 Reply Private Reply
#20: Deckard To: GrandIsland (#18)
Deckard posted on 2018-01-11 19:57:15 Reply Private Reply
#21: Hondo68 To: Gatlin, evading the law and penalties, verdict (#12)
Then the assets should have been turned over to a more trustworthy and law abiding Bank/Management Firm, not what Obama and Trump are doing which is evading the lawful verdict and penalties.
Obama is a scofflaw, and by following in his footsteps Trump is too. He's had ample time for his financial officials to turn the accounts over to a responsible bank, and his administration has done nothing. Upping the number of years just adds insult to injury.
Trump needs to fire some employees and get some people in there who can and will do the job of forcing these sleazy banks into compliance with the law. Lock 'em up!
Hondo68 posted on 2018-01-11 20:15:07 Reply Private Reply
#22: Gatlin To: Deckard, A K A Stone (#19)
Stone will do what is right and I have made NO claim....the headline is a FLAT OUT LIE.
That is a LIE.The waivers DID NOT exclude PUNISHMENT for convicted banks....they WERE CONVICTED and they paid their fines as prescribed by law. That was their punishment and there was NO waiver to that PUNISHMENT.
All that happened with the waivers was that:
The U.S. Labor department simply could not have caused those banks to liquidate BILLIONS upon BILLIONS of dollars in retirement funds assets without causing catastrophic results in the stock market, the U.S. dollar and runs on banks the likes which have never seen before in history.You need to stop grabbing some headline you agree with and busting your ass to post the story on LF.
Start FACT CHECKING
Gatlin posted on 2018-01-11 20:42:49 Reply Private Reply
#23: Gatlin To: hondo68, A K A Stone (#21)
As if that had never been considered. And you as a reincarnated Mayer Amschel Rothschild could show them exactly how to do that, right? LMAO ...
But that is beside the point under discussion. What is under discussion and consideration for Stone is that the headline is a FLAT OUT LIE. Furthermore, the article is grossly misleading by presenting only partially factual information in an subtle attempt to paint Trump in a bad picture.
Gatlin posted on 2018-01-11 20:56:26 Reply Private Reply
#24: GrandIsland To: Deckard (#20)
https://youtu.be/Hl05kFaPq14
The baddest man that walks planet earth... at any weight.
GrandIsland posted on 2018-01-11 21:11:32 Reply Private Reply
#25: Hondo68 To: Gatlin (#23)
You're no longer qualified to operate a potato peeler!
The only one lying here is you, Obama apologist. Trump needs to get his administration to come down on these outlaw banks like a ton of bricks!
You yourself quoted that they're disqualified from asset management under the law. They're not allowed to manage assets due to a conviction. The only reason they're getting away with it now is because of Obama, and now Trump's exemption extensions.
Why are you backing Obama and convicted criminal Banks? You're nutz! How much stock do you own in these criminal outfits, more than George Soros?
Hondo68 posted on 2018-01-11 21:26:47 Reply Private Reply
#26: Gatlin To: hondo68, A K A Stone (#25)
The banks running the retirement funds had NOTHING to do with the crime the banks were convicted of. The headline is a BIG LIE.
The waiver is simply to allow the banks to continue administering the retirement funds, something the U.S. Labor Department has been looking into since May 20,2015, after the Security Exchange Commission granted a series of waivers to the banks allowing them to continue their usual securities business, after they agreed to plead guilty to criminal charges.The U.S. Labor Department, the Security Exchange Commission and many....many....others can see the definitively positive reasons to let these banks continue to own and actively run the retirement funds. It has NOTHING to do with their convictions and it has NOTHING to do with PUNISHMENT.
What is there about this that you simply fail to understand?
The headline is a BOLD FACE LIE and the article is PURELY AN ANTI-TRUMP HIT PIECE which is trying to make much to do about nothing. Prohibiting the banks from running the retirement accounts for millions of people would solve nothing and only be punishing those people depending on the proper functioning of those retirement accounts for their daily living.
You are blinded by your extreme hatred for Trump and unable to think rationally....not that you have been.
Spend your time on something important....stop wasting it on trying to defend a LIE.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-banks-forex-settlement-waivers/sec-grants- waivers-to-banks-after-guilty-pleas-idUSKBN0O526720150520 SEC grants waivers to banks after guilty pleas #BUSINESS NEWS - MAY 20, 2015.
Gatlin posted on 2018-01-11 22:13:56 Reply Private Reply
#27: buckeroo To: Gatlin, hondo68 (#26)
Aren't you going overboard there, tater?
buckeroo posted on 2018-01-11 22:18:35 Reply Private Reply
#28: Gatlin To: hondo68 (#25)
And I will own even more on Tuesday when UBS hits my automatic buy perimeters of up at least 1% on the day, up at least a total of 5% over the past 5 days and up 5 days straight in a row.
Check it out:
Go on a tear UBS. Uh, no, I do not own as much of these banks stocks as George Soros does....but I am diligently working on getting there.Speaking of George Soros, as you did, look who old George hired as his CIO....and especially pay attention to where he hired her from.
Gatlin posted on 2018-01-13 17:20:59 Reply Private Reply
#29: Deckard To: hondo68 (#28)
Birds of a feather.
Deckard posted on 2018-01-13 19:23:24 Reply Private Reply
#30: Hondo68 To: Deckard, Gatlin, George Soros Pinkpussyhat, Clinton Foundation (#29)
I'm becoming more and more convinced that Gatlin is wearing his PinkPussyhat while posting!
Hondo68 posted on 2018-01-13 20:09:04 Reply Private Reply
#31: Gatlin To: Deckard (#29)
This is why I am giddy:
Ah, it really is such a WONDERFUL WORLD and I enjoy living ever minute in it....
and, Deckard, I am truly sorry that you cannot.
Gatlin posted on 2018-01-13 21:08:34 Reply Private Reply
#32: Gatlin To: hondo68 (#30)
Gatlin posted on 2018-01-13 21:15:43 Reply Private Reply
#33: misterwhite To: Deckard (#0)
So shouldn't the headline be, "Trump Administration Extends Obama Administration Waivers"?
misterwhite posted on 2018-01-13 21:54:34 Reply Private Reply