Why did Gen. Mike Flynn lie to the FBI about his December 2016 conversations with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak?
Why did he not tell the FBI the truth?
As national security adviser to the president-elect, Flynn had called the ambassador. Message: Tell President Putin not to overreact to President Obama’s expulsion of 35 Russian diplomats. Trump will be president in three weeks, and we are committed to a new relationship.
Not only was this initiative defensible, it proved successful.
Putin accepted the loss of his diplomats and country houses on Long lsland and the Eastern Shore. Rather than expel U.S. diplomats in retaliation, he invited them and their families to the Kremlin’s New Year’s parties.
“Great move…(by V. Putin),” tweeted Trump, “I always knew he was very smart.” This columnist concurred:
Among our Russophobes, one can almost hear the gnashing of teeth.
Clearly, Putin believes the Trump presidency offers Russia the prospect of a better relationship with the United States. He appears to want this, and most Americans seem to want the same. After all, Hillary Clinton, who accused Trump of being “Putin’s puppet,” lost.
Flynn, it now appears, was not freelancing, but following instructions. His deputy, K. T. McFarland, sent an email to six Trump advisers saying that Obama, by expelling the Russians, was trying to “box Trump in diplomatically.”
“If there is a tit-for-tat escalation,” warned McFarland, “Trump will have difficulty improving relations with Russia.” Exactly.
Flynn was trying to prevent Russian retaliation. Yet, as the ex-director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, he had to know his call to Kislyak was being monitored and recorded.
So, again, why would he lie to the FBI about a conversation, the contents of which were surely known to the people who sent the FBI to question him?
The other charge of lying about a call with Kislyak was Flynn’s request for Russian help in getting postponed or canceled a Security Council vote on a resolution denouncing Israeli settlements on the West Bank.
Obama’s White House was backing the anti-Israel resolution. And Bibi Netanyahu had asked Trump to weigh in to block the vote.
Bottom line: Flynn, acting on instructions, tried to prevent a U.N. condemnation of Israel, and to dissuade Russia from a mass expulsion of U.S. diplomats, lest this poison the well against a rapprochement for which the American people had voted.
In the court of public opinion, Flynn’s actions would find broad support. Rather than deny knowledge of them, Trump should have taken credit for them.
Why the general would lie to the FBI about conversations he had to know U.S. intelligence had recorded is a puzzling question, but now also an irrelevant one, water over the dam.
For Trump’s general is now the newly conscripted collaborator of the media-Mueller-Democrat-deep state conspiracy to overturn the election of 2016 and bring down the Trump presidency.
Remarkable.
After 18 months, we have no evidence Trump colluded with Russia in hacking the emails of the DNC or John Podesta, which is what the FBI investigation was supposedly about.
There is no conclusive evidence Flynn committed a crime when, as national security adviser-designate, he tried to prevent Obama from sabotaging the policies Trump had run on–and won on.
Yet there is evidence Russian intelligence agents colluded with a British spy in the pay of the oppo research arm of the DNC and Hillary Clinton campaign–to find dirt on Donald Trump.
And there is evidence James Comey’s FBI wanted to hire the British spy who appeared to have access to the Russian agents who appeared to possess all that wonderful dirt on the Donald.
It is hard to see how this ends well.
This weekend, after Flynn’s admission he lied to the FBI, Beltway media were slavering like Pavlov’s dogs at anticipated indictments and plea bargains by present and former White House aides, Trump family members, and perhaps Trump himself.
The joy on the TV talk shows was transparent.
Yet the media have already been badly damaged; first, by the relentless Trump attacks and the cheering for those attacks by a huge slice of the country; second, by their reflexive reaction. The media have behaved exactly like the “enemy” Trump said they were.
In this us-versus-them country, the media now seem to relish the role of “them.” The old proud journalistic boast to be objective and neutral reporters, observers and commentators is gone.
We are all partisans now.
As last Friday‘s sudden 300-point drop in the Dow reveals, if Trump’s enemies bring him down, they will almost surely crash the markets and abort the recovery that took hold in Trump’s first year.
And if the establishment, repudiated by Trump’s victory, thinks it will be restored to the nation’s good graces if they destroy Trump, they are whistling past the graveyard.
When Caesar falls, the cheering for Brutus and Cassius tends to die down rather quickly. Then their turn comes.
Poster Comment:
#1: Liberator To: nativist nationalist (#0)
Well, haven't the "Media" ostensibly represented the anti-America interests of the Globalist-Elites and Anarchists-Commies? for the last 60 years or so? Trump merely exposed the Entire NWO Game and its evil players.
He achieved it by not only surviving, but thriving and beating back his pipsqueak tormentors. He's not yet done, just watch and wait.
If the establishment, repudiated by Trump’s victory, thinks it will be restored to the nation’s good graces if they destroy Trump, they are whistling past the graveyard.
When Caesar falls, the cheering for Brutus and Cassius tends to die down rather quickly. Then their turn comes.
Their turn will come..IS coming. And with it, shock & awe. The Hounds have been released.
Liberator posted on 2017-12-05 12:14:34 Reply Private Reply
#2: Stoner To: Liberator (#1)
Wonder when we will see them " LOCK HER UP " ?
Stoner posted on 2017-12-05 12:47:07 Reply Private Reply
#3: Liberator To: Stoner (#2)
THAT is the Day America becomes "righteous" and the law and justice returns to the Land.
If that evil witch is never locked up after what she's done, there will NEVER be justice in America. Justice can ONLY be served with the incarceration of Hitlery H. Klintoon.
Liberator posted on 2017-12-05 12:55:49 Reply Private Reply
#4: Stoner To: Liberator (#3)
Unfortunately, that will NEVER HAPPEN !!!
Stoner posted on 2017-12-05 13:24:31 Reply Private Reply
#5: Liberator To: Stoner (#4)
This gubmint has been so discredited and such a disappointment.
Hitlery's getting away with several feral crimes and murder - including Benghazi, her fake "Foundation," Private Server, sharing classified data, smashing evidence, serial perjury, sale of Uranium, Feeb collusion etal were THE moments we all knew "justice" and the US Constitution were dead and all charades.
Liberator posted on 2017-12-05 13:37:46 Reply Private Reply
#6: nativist nationalist To: Liberator (#1)
nativist nationalist posted on 2017-12-05 14:13:53 Reply Private Reply
#7: IbJensen To: nativist nationalist (#0)
IbJensen posted on 2017-12-05 14:24:49 Reply Private Reply
#8: Liberator To: nativist nationalist (#6)
How dare the serfs challenge their masters!!
The Oligarchs and Masters of Evil have forever tossed their tantrums, stomped their feet -- eager to sacrifice the blood of everyone (including their own) on their way to playing King Of The Hill. We have a front-row center seat to witness this and more these days, don't we?
They may slam shut their doors, plug their ears, and shine their crowns and tiaras; Some to retire to their stolen, blood-stain lairs and havens. But the serfs WILL be heard.
But like the arrogant Marie Antoinette, in their hubris they sometimes convince themselves of their own self-importance and immortality. They become convinced that their opponents are too few, too ineffectual...for they were always born mere perpetual slaves in their minds.
It'd be nice to witness justice for those in High Places. But if justice is not served in this life, without repentance it will certainly come in the next.
Liberator posted on 2017-12-05 14:41:57 Reply Private Reply
#9: Liberator To: IbJensen (#7)
Concur.
It is a shame that the Feebs' stripes of honor and respect have been stripped away. Of their own volition.
I believe the average American is still in shock just how incompetent, corrupt, discredited, and reptilian this LE org has become. I'm going to presume that many within are still honorable and trying to do the right thing, welcoming a complete overhaul of leadership and philosophy and mission statement. We can only imagine what its whistleblowers had to endure.
Hopefully the old guard will be swept out and replaced with a new honorable org whose priority is truly American Security instead of as a weaponized political Hit-Squad.
Liberator posted on 2017-12-05 14:49:33 Reply Private Reply
#10: jeremiad To: IbJensen (#7)
jeremiad posted on 2017-12-05 16:52:35 Reply Private Reply
#11: rlk To: Liberator (#8)
To hell with hypothetical justice in the next life. I'm living in this life. I want justice here and now!
rlk posted on 2017-12-05 19:33:58 Reply Private Reply
#12: Liberator To: rlk (#11)
Even if one rides that "hypothetical" justice unto death, what should be the contingency plan should one be wrong about that?
IF, say, hypothetically speaking -- you awakened...and lo -- there IS a God. What kind of "justice" would be "fair" for the Disbeliever?
In any case, no, you won't get your justice or pound of flesh in this twisted evil physical world, Robert. But even if you did witness a great amount of "justice" meted out by a hypothetical great king, wouldn't there would still be others who would still be overlooked?
That leads to the next logical theoretical question: How many "crimes" -- small and large -- should someone be allotted before sentencing? Two? Two-hundred?
Liberator posted on 2017-12-05 21:40:48 Reply Private Reply
#13: Think20020 To: nativist nationalist (#0)
1. “they will almost surely crash the markets and abort the recovery that took hold in Trump's first year.
WRONG! This recovery began and “took hold” during Obama’s presidency after the previous administration tanked it. Trump inherited a growing, thriving economy as did Bush. And like Bush, he is likely to bring it to a screeching halt. There is a clear pattern to the economy: crashes fueled by Republicans; Recoveries fueled by Democrats. But then again, you know this, so why the disingenuous statements? Hoping your readership is uneducated and will simply accept what you have to say as being accurate? I wonder why.
2. “Why the general would lie to the FBI about conversations he had to know U.S. intelligence had recorded is a puzzling question, but now also an irrelevant one, water over the dam.”
WRONG! The reason behind the lie is not “water over the dam”. How odd it is to hear people suggest that there is no reason to figure out why all these people have been lying when they can’t rule out the possibility that the reason could entail a potential threat to national security. You don’t care of Trump is beholden to Putin? I do. Maybe he isn’t. But Trump and associates have decided that they will do just about anything to avoid us knowing something. All these lies are about something. Even a 6 year old knows that the purpose of lying is to obscure the truth. Trump and associates must think their secret is pretty important. So do I.
Last I talked to you, you were singing a very different tune. Why the switch? Well I guess it is obvious. You and the others…
Think20020 posted on 2017-12-11 03:32:48 Reply Private Reply
#14: GrandIsland To: Think20020 (#13)
The only thing that began and took hold during O'bunghole's EIGHT FUCKING YEARS was the doubling of our debt. Now run along, snowflake... run and scream towards the sky.
GrandIsland posted on 2017-12-11 04:15:00 Reply Private Reply
#15: A K A Stone To: Think20020 (#13)
This is the Trump economy.
If anyone hurt the economy it is the democrats with their welfare giveaway programs.
Oh and fuck you and all Obama cock suckers.
A K A Stone posted on 2017-12-11 07:21:07 Reply Private Reply