Money laundering

Money laundering

Isn't that WHY people get into politics? Prior to obtaining public office in Arkansas,the Bubba's could barely afford to buy a used car,and by the time they left the white house they were worth at LEAST 220 MILLION dollars. And that's just the money that can be easily found.

Just think,and all of it on the salary of a public servant! Nope,nothing suspicious there!

From CNN

The indictment against the two men contains 12 counts:

conspiracy against the United States,

conspiracy to launder money,

unregistered agent of a foreign principal,

false and misleading US Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) statements,

false statements,

and seven counts of failure to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts.

The charges do not cover any activities related to the campaign, though it's possible Mueller could add additional charges.

LEVERAGE

" Prior to obtaining public office in Arkansas,the Bubba's could barely afford to buy a used car,and by the time they left the white house they were worth at LEAST 220 MILLION dollars. And that's just the money that can be easily found.

Just think,and all of it on the salary of a public servant! Nope,nothing suspicious there! "

And Saint Donald said " Hillary is good people, she has suffered enough "

Secondly, when are the Feebs going to bust Hitlery for her Foundation, the Uranium Deal, the Dossier, her Private Server, 0bama, Lynch, and Holder? OH WAIT.

Mannafort is guilty of engaging in the same relative chump-change scams run by 90% of every politician out there.

The ONLY reason Mannafort is busted is to supposedly embarrass Trump.

Isn't that WHY people get into politics?

well, of course, power and money.

However, in this case the "everyone else is doing it" fallacy is irrelevant.

What appears to be happening here, which has been the topic of speculation for some time, is that Manafort was on the Kremlin's payroll to the tune of about $18 Million (latest estimate), and that he laundered the money and evaded US income taxes.

What still has yet to be revealed, is what exactly he did in exchange for the cash.

Revealing what he was paid for, may be his only chance to avoid spending the rest of his life in Federal Prison.

No American has ever been pardoned for tax evasion or money laundering.

First of all: "BUZZFEED"??

Sure, they were ahead of the curve on reporting this morning, but if you don't like Buzzfeed, check out any other news outlet -

Secondly, when are the Feebs going to bust Hitlery for her Foundation, the Uranium Deal, the Dossier, her Private Server, 0bama, Lynch, and Holder?

I have no idea. But your false argument really has nothing to do with Manafort's crimes does it?

The ONLY reason Mannafort is busted is to supposedly embarrass Trump.

You are welcome to your opinion, but it is far more likely that embarrassment is not even on the list of reasons Manafort and Gates are facing very serious terms in Federal Prison.

drew the attention of federal law enforcement officials as far back as 2012 ...

4 years before Trump's campaign.

Your false argument really has nothing to do with Manafort's crimes does it?

Please explain how the select NON-INDICTMENT of obvious High Crimes committed by Hitlery, Holder, 0bama, Lynch, Awan Bros, etal has "nothing to do" with implementing REAL justice?

Mannafort's "crime" is one and the same were the Feebs to investigate and prosecute half of Congress and ALL of the DNC. THIS investigation was and is a political stunt.

Are you satisfied with political diversions, BS stunts and Kangaroo Courts?

Are you satisfied with Deep State and Alphabet agys and "Investigations" that are politically directed? Steer resources and focus AWAY from obvious High Crimes? A simple YES or NO will suffice.

"Listen piece of shit. Call me anti American again and your're banned. I don't like you." - aka stoned

You have a funny way of endearing yourself to the Forum owner.

Nice seeing ya.

And Saint Donald said " Hillary is good people, she has suffered enough "

I never believed that BS for a second. People in high places often compliment their opponents as a set up for future action.

I construed Trump's above kind words as a negotiation of sorts, conciliatory and empathetic in tone (given the Witch's staggering to the finish line with all kinds of undisclosed physical-mental maladies.)

Now that Hitlery (like ALL deranged liberal-statist totalitarians) has declared war on him, rejecting Trump's magnanimous olive branch -- which the patently stupid, fat, and drunk Hitlery has recently chosen to ignore - will manifest itself in unpleasant ways.

Now Trump knows... it's GAME ON.

4 years before Trump's campaign.

Correct

OF course, Meuller's job is to investigate issues with the 2016 election...of which Manafort was a key player...

Please explain how the select NON-INDICTMENT of obvious High Crimes committed by Hitlery, Holder, 0bama, Lynch, Awan Bros, etal has "nothing to do" with implementing REAL justice?

As I stated "Your false argument really has nothing to do with Manafort's crimes does it?"

Your position has nothing to do with the topic being discussed.

You have a funny way of endearing yourself to the Forum owner.

Funny,

Those were his words to me.....

If you are suggesting Meuller's investigation and the FBI are politically directed by the "Deep State" - you have taken up residency within the lunatic fringe.

Are you satisfied with political diversions, BS stunts and Kangaroo Courts?

I'm certain you are referring to the non-stop tweeting by 45....so "NO"

Now Trump knows... it's GAME ON.

Yeah, we'll see.

John Koskinen and Lois Lerner retired on full stolen-taxpayer-money pensions after weaponizing the IRS for Odumbass - Trump/Sessions just let them walk.

In fact, Sheryl Attkisson just last week said her sources informed her that Koskinen wasn't fired on Jan. 20th (as he should have been) because waiting until last week allowed his pension to fully vest and maximize.

That's our "new" Just Us department. I'm not holding my breath for ANYBODY to be held to account.

And Saint Donald said " Hillary is good people, she has suffered enough "

No RINO won the primary. Get over it.

I personally hope no RINO is EVER elected again.

ESPECIALLY none named Bush.

Secondly, when are the Feebs going to bust Hitlery for her Foundation, the Uranium Deal, the Dossier, her Private Server, 0bama, Lynch, and Holder? OH WAIT.

I have it from a reliable source that they are going to do this on the 31st of Feb,in the year of our masters,3035.

Game may be delayed or postponed due to inclement weather,of course.

THIS TIME THEY REALLY GONNA DO IT!

unlike the previous 917 times.......

The ONLY reason Mannafort is busted is to supposedly embarrass Trump.

BINGO!

If you are suggesting Meuller's investigation and the FBI are politically directed by the "Deep State" - you have taken up residency within the lunatic fringe.

I hope the constant bleating isn't straining you vocal chords too much.

IF your biggest complaint about the lack of justice and honest investigations is NOT the mockery of and middle-finger to We The People...but "tweets" by Trump, then your reality is impossibly irredeemable. Good luck with that.

OF course, Meuller's job is to investigate issues with the 2016 election

Hmmm. Here I thought Mueller's job was to investigate any connection between Trump's 2016 campaign and Russia, not a 2012 connection between Manafort and the Ukraine.

"IF your biggest complaint about the lack of justice and honest investigations ..."

I'm not complaining about"lack of justice...blah, blah, blah...

You are.

I'm discussing Meuller's investigation in general, and today's indictments of several of 45's key players.

You can understand the difference, right?

Yeah, we'll see.

John Koskinen and Lois Lerner retired on full stolen-taxpayer-money pensions after weaponizing the IRS for Odumbass - Trump/Sessions just let them walk.

Good point and observation. Koskinen and Lois Lerner should be in jail for a very long time. And coughed up NAMES. We have still not determined where their orders to weeaponize the IRS and harass ONLY conservatives came from.

Jeff Sessions is NOT to be trusted. We saw exactly whose side he really plays for when he recused himself from the fake "Russia" brouhaha.

I realize there are many who feel Trump as President needed to immediately drain The Swamp. He was in no position while there was a coup and mutiny afoot and few allies wanting to step forward. Now that he's survived it, I look for REAL future justice.

In fact, Sheryl Attkisson just last week said her sources informed her that Koskinen wasn't fired on Jan. 20th (as he should have been) because waiting until last week allowed his pension to fully vest and maximize.

That is disgusting. I HOPE a deal has been made, or else this grave injustice will have been rewarded instead of heavily penalized. Again, I believe Sessions is part of the problem, and deals made behind the scenes -- some of which )hopefully) may not pay off till later.

That's our "new" Just Us department. I'm not holding my breath for ANYBODY to be held to account.

I share your pessimism.

Remember that many of Bammy's holdovers still infect the supposed "DoJ," as well as rogue DS globalists.

I personally hope no RINO is EVER elected again.

ESPECIALLY none named Bush.

Amen!

ESPECIALLY none named Bush.

I have it from a reliable source that they are going to do this on the 31st of Feb,in the year of our masters,3035.

Game may be delayed or postponed due to inclement weather,of course.

THIS TIME THEY REALLY GONNA DO IT!

unlike the previous 917 times.......

I hear ya...

Speculation of course, base on observations and circumstatial evidence, but again -- to be fair, Trump was in the middle of fending off a coup and his own personal survival. It's ridiculous to say this of an incoming President, but Trump was in no position to wade into matters where DS tools were shielded by Bammy's holdovers, aided and abetted by the same GOPe Congressional Globalists who actually supported Bammy and The Hag (and STILL do.)

Yes...Mannafort's indictment has only that single solitary purpose: EMBARRASS TRUMP.

That Mueller has been allowed to become a "Special Prosecutor" tells me either a quid pro quo deal has been made...OR, the infighting between DS'ers and Patriots Within rages on.

Manafort was on the Kremlin's payroll to the tune of about $18 Million (latest estimate), and that he laundered the money and evaded US income taxes.

If that's true he needs to be drained along with the other snakes in the swamp.

I'm not complaining about"lack of justice...

You are.

Thanks for noticing.

Because ONE of us is quite willing to accept the Totalitarian One World Gubmint noose around our neck.

I'm discussing Meuller's investigation in general, and today's indictments of several of 45's key players. You can understand the difference, right?

"Key players"?? "Mueller's 'investigation'"??

HA! Chyeah, right. Bleat on.

Unless Hillary's name pops up as THE star-criminal, then this is BS.

Although I have to source to cite at the moment... (I just heard a news broadcast from the BBC) Meuller's indictments specifically reference transactions and activities well into 2016...

FYI

Totalitarian One World Gubmint

You're embarrassing yourself.

Your comments smell of the putrid waste that spews from the mouths of Glen Beck, Alex Jones, and Sean Hannity

You are the "fake news"

We're finished here, you're incapable of intelligent discourse.

You are the "fake news"

We're finished here, you're incapable of intelligent discourse.

We never began. Well...not on your end, anyway.

You start and end with 0bama and Hillary and their globalist puppetmeisters as innocent bystanders. And a MSM's altar at which you kneel. How precious.

Thanks for playing.

If that's true he needs to be drained along with the other snakes in the swamp.

"Drain the swamp"

It was a great campaign slogan, I'd guess that the copywriter who came up with that has been well compensated.

In reality, what was sold and what has taken place have been anything but draining the swamp...

You see, draining the swamp was all about ridding Washington of the influence of Wall Street, Big Banking, Big Business, and Big Health/Insurance concerns.

45 was going to give the nation back to the people.....

A cruel joke.

Now - regarding Manafort - he is what's wrong with America.

Meuller's indictments specifically reference transactions and activities well into 2016...

Perhaps. But Manafort was lobbying to get the Ukraine into the EU. Nothing to do with the Trump campaign or Russia.

You start and end with 0bama and Hillary and their globalist puppetmeisters as innocent bystanders. And a MSM's altar at which you kneel. How precious.

Thanks for playing.

It's sad how willfully ignorant you are.

It was a great campaign slogan,

Yeah, so was "you'd be in jail".

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Money laundering

Like the Clinton Foundation?

... Etc Etc:

Oct 30, 2017

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snR5voVy-T4

suspicious wire transfers in which offshore companies linked to Manafort moved more than $3 million all over the globe between 2012 and 2013.

Who was President then? And what does this have to do with Trump and this investigation?

As for Manafort, Geez, most of us do so called suspicious things all the time. If I drive 5 miles over the speed limit, it might be deemed suspicious that I might have illegal drugs in my car. Or that I am speeding away from a robbery scene.

Also what crime is evident in what Manafort is accused of doing.

("Money laundering")

Like the Clinton Foundation?

Exactly.

The cognitive dissonance of prog tools is stunning.

Perhaps. But Manafort was lobbying to get the Ukraine into the EU. Nothing to do with the Trump campaign or Russia.

I understand the argument.

Here is what the indictments are all about - Manafort has been on the Kremlin's payroll for years - he chose to hide the money he was paid from the IRS and more recently the FEC. He also chose to conceal the relationships he has had and the work he has performed to warrant such handsome paydays.

Is it possible that he was paid-off for his "work" in years well before the election cycle? sure!

But, let's be honest... this un-American acting foreign agent was working for the interests of those paying him - and now he's been caught.

And his work included running the campaign of 45.

This is not about his actions in 2013 it is about what he was paid to do in 2016.

IMHO

Who was President then? And what does this have to do with Trump and this investigation?

HA!

Nice connection!

Who was President then?

...Sigh... straw-man argument

As for Manafort, Geez, most of us do so called suspicious things all the time. If I drive 5 miles over the speed limit, it might be deemed suspicious that I might have illegal drugs in my car. Or that I am speeding away from a robbery scene.

You're a one-trick pony aren't you? STRAW-MAN

Also what crime is evident in what Manafort is accused of doing.

Here is the list:

conspiracy against the United States,

conspiracy to launder money,

unregistered agent of a foreign principal,

false and misleading US Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) statements,

false statements,

and seven counts of failure to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts.

please check the newsfeed - I believe there have been several guilty pleas today...

Would you be willing to submit to them all?

If the Clintons or anyone else pulled this shit, nail them! do it now!

I won't defend them or their actions - and if you scroll up to the top, you'll see that I have not even mentioned anyone in any other administration.

And, yes, I understand that there are lots of folks around who can only grasp a "we vs. them" mentality, but that approach is negative and divisive.

I started this thread to discuss the current events of today regarding the investigation of the special prosecutor, and the ramifications.

To respond with: "Ah ha!! Clinton, Obama, NWO, blah, blah, blah... did it too!! only worse!! is just weak minded and pathetic.

Stop it!

Refute the facts or opinions I've put forth, or go troll some other thread.

No offense!

I could make a whole lot of claims about you too, without any proof.

Are you really that dense?

are you suggesting that the office of the special prosecutor has "made up" these indictments?

You are aware that indictments like those presented today, are the result of evidence being presented to a grand jury who must determine whether or not a crime has been committed, right?

and on 12 counts, the grand jury determined that laws have been violated.

scroll up for the list

Nothing was "made up"

Your argument is invalid.

But, let's be honest... this un-American acting foreign agent was working for the interests of those paying him - and now he's been caught.

Yes, "LET'S BE HONEST":

IF Mannafort was, an "un-American acting foreign agent was working for the interests of those paying him," as has been said, a President NOT named "TRUMP" was President.

Q: In which case, do do you believe 0bammy, the DS, and Hillary knew all about it?" OR were completely in the dark??

Remember -- you want to "BE HONEST," right?

But please come back and present some thinking more compellening.

If the Clintons or anyone else pulled this shit, nail them! do it now!

All animals are equal! {uhh} But some are more equaler than others!

Q: In which case, do do you believe 0bammy, the DS, and Hillary knew all about it?" OR were completely in the dark??

How should I know?

What a stupid question.

If it is proven that Manafort and Co. worked against the interests of the people of the United States, prosecute him.

If it is proven that Ms. Clinton, President Obama, or anyone else was knowingly involved in any way, prosecute them too.

Don't try to involve me in your stupid partisan pissing match - I don't care.

What I do care about is that there is a very real chance that our democratic process of electing representatives might have been knowingly f-ed up by foreign interests - that is unacceptable, and I'd hope even you would get that.

So, I guess you don't agree?

Proven is an absolute standard.

However, I would suggest that since Mrs. Bill Clinton is way more involved in these matters in these matters than anyone, shouldn't she be questioned?

Hell, this is crap that occurred when Trump was running a reality show.

("Q: In which case, do do you believe 0bammy, the DS, and Hillary knew all about it?" OR were completely in the dark??")

How should I know?

Having a problem connecting the two dots, eh?

Mannafort was allegedly conducting a LOT of cloak & dagger business right under the nose of 0bama and Hillary as they were President and SoS respectively, and obviously needing SOME kind of clearance to deal with Russia (remember THEM? 0bama and Hillary ok'd the Uranium Deal, didn't they?)

If it is proven that Ms. Clinton, President Obama, or anyone else was knowingly involved in any way, prosecute them too. Don't try to involve me in your stupid partisan pissing match - I don't care.

Oh, but as a Prog, you DO care. That's why you're so gung-ho on Mannafort's indictment while ignoring the obvious high crimes committed by both your treasonous ex-President and Presidential criminal-wannabe.

What I do care about is that there is a very real chance that our democratic process of electing representatives might have been knowingly f-ed up by foreign interests - that is unacceptable, and I'd hope even you would get that.

How noble of you to care. NOW THAT TRUMP IS PRESIDENT.

How about your concern from 2008-2016 "very real" PROBABILITY that "our democratic process of electing representatives" has ALREADY been tampered with by subversive DOMESTIC interests? Like the DNC and 0bama's and Hitlery's minions?

Funny how you're conveniently forgotten all the clear cases of Election Fraud perpetrated by DNC and Democratic Precincts (Harry Reid's Nevada (D) computers were calibrated by one of his sons, Clark County commission chairman.) I could go on and on and enlighten you. But we both know your supposed neutral political interest and ethics are select.

Forget about ACORN? SEIU? THIS (New Black Panther Party voter intimidation case)?:

The DNC-CNN collusion during Hillary's-Trump debate, 0bama's promise to the Russian President that once he was elected, he' be able to "make deals"? How about key testimony that computerized voting machines can easily be tampered with?