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WINCHESTER, VA. The melodic sounds of a street musicians trumpet echo through every corner of this old Virginia town as locals shop or make their way to lunch. Daren Johnson has been blowing his horn at the pedestrian mall in the shadow of the Shenandoah Valley Civil War Museum for over an hour. He performs for two reasons: To make some extra cash and to share a little bit of lightness. We are exhausted as a country, he said, a direct result of last years election. Johnson and his wife were tireless volunteers for Hillary Clinton last year. They knocked on doors, they made phone calls, they were invested. When she lost, the couple was devastated. Now, Johnson doesnt even know who is running for governor. Ive voted every year for the past 46 years, always informed, always enthusiastic, always involved in the process. Now, its really hard to care, Johnson said. The upcoming gubernatorial election in Virginia is one of only two happening in the country this year, along with New Jersey. The race pits Ralph Northam, the current lieutenant governor and a Democrat, against Ed Gillespie, a former George W. Bush administration official and Republican National Committee chairman.
Northam should have a comfortable lead right now. Terry McAuliffe, the outgoing governor he currently serves under, is popular and generally seen as successful. Plus, Virginians have historically elected governors from the party opposite to a president whos won the year before. In 2001, Democrat Mark Warner won one year after George W. Bush was elected; in 2009, Republican Bob McDonnell won one year after Barack Obama took the state. And, of course, there is the Trump factor Clinton beat the president comfortably here, although almost all of her vote came from the heavily populated, heavily liberal Northern Virginia suburbs with the rest of the state (mostly rural, mostly forgotten) going for Donald Trump with the exception of the state capital and some college towns. But Northams numbers are not up in fact, the last three public polls show next months race within the margin of error. That includes a Monmouth University poll released Tuesday, which gives Gillespie the edge over Northam among likely voters by 48 to 47 percent. Both parties have pulled out all the stops for this race. Ex-president Obama was here for a rally; George W. Bush for a fundraiser. Joe Bidens stumped here, so has Vice President Mike Pence. So far, Trump has only tweeted about the race: Ralph Northam, who is running for Governor of Virginia, is fighting for the violent MS-13 killer gangs & sanctuary cities. Vote Ed Gillespie! Gillespie has avoided broadcasting that endorsement on the campaign trail. There are no mentions of it on his website. After Trump claimed there were some very fine people on both sides of a neo-Nazi protest in nearby Charlottesville that left one woman dead, Gillespies spokesman Dave Abrams said the candidate did not see any fine people on the side of the white nationalists and neo-Nazis. But Gillespie has not directly criticized Trump either. Meanwhile Stephanie Vaughan, the Democratic county chairperson in Winchester, says the party is working hard to clinch victory by appealing to a wider crowd. We very much try to have a big-tent approach here. We welcome moderate, progressive and conservative Democrats into our party, and we encourage everyone to listen to our message, she said. Here our issues are pretty straightforward transportation, education and health care. Behind the counter of her coffee shop, Lanita Byrne said she did not vote for Trump and loved Clinton but is completely undecided on which candidate she wants for governor. Honestly it comes down to who is best on taxes. I think there should be less burdens and more opportunities for small-business owners, she said. Clark Hansbarger, meanwhile, said he saw the Trump win coming from a mile away. I kept telling all of my liberal friends, and they would just laugh at me. They thought no way, he said. Hansbarger then chuckles and admits he, too, is a liberal. But, look, I travel a lot. When Trump spoke about carnage in his inaugural address, Ive seen exactly what he meant all over the country, he said. Johnson begins to play his trumpet again, then stops. I guess Ill vote, he admits. But honestly I am sick of both parties . . . and I am not voting straight ticket, that is for sure. Certainly the Democrats are the ones with the most to lose. The party has had a year to craft the perfect message offering voters an alternative to the Republicans in power. Have they succeeded? Maybe. If not, the rejection could be almost as bad as the pain they were dealt nationally last year. Once again, a race easily within their grasp could slip through their fingers because they failed to excite their base. |
Poster Comment:
The Dem is about as exciting as Dukakis or Shitlery, i.e. charisma around zero. Still, history strongly favors a Dem victory. I think the attacks on the Confederate monuments and the demoralization of Dems gives Gillespie a strong chance, maybe even an advantage over Northam, McCauliffe's stooge lieutenant governor. If they lose this one, the Dems will really be desperate.

#2: Hondo68 To: Tooconservative, executive order DACA sanctuary, President Trumps MS-13 dream students (#0)
Hondo68 posted on 2017-10-23 00:55:29 Reply Private Reply
#3: Tooconservative To: hondo68 (#1)
Goode was last heard from endorsing Trump early on in 2015. As your wiki link indicates.
Tooconservative posted on 2017-10-23 06:33:30 Reply Private Reply
#4: sneakypete To: Tooconservative (#0)
When they elect sub-scum demons like McAuliffe to be governor,you know it's over.
sneakypete posted on 2017-10-23 19:50:01 Reply Private Reply
#5: Gatlin To: hondo68, A K A Stone (#2)
Gatlin posted on 2017-10-23 19:59:17 Reply Private Reply
#6: buckeroo To: Gatlin, hondo68, A K A Stone (#5)
For bureaucrats to catch up to new regulations will take years of tyme. You are such a STUPID IDIOT BELIEVING IN GOVERNMENT POWER it makes me sick.
buckeroo posted on 2017-10-23 20:09:16 Reply Private Reply
#7: Hondo68 To: Gatlin, nolu chan (#5)
We've been through President Trump's DACA eo, and nolu even posted the relevant section.
There ought to be a law requiring all illegal alien dream student gangbangers, to hang a big sign around their necks stating their brand! Just so Gatlin will know.
Hondo68 posted on 2017-10-23 20:15:02 Reply Private Reply
#8: Gatlin To: buckeroo (#6)
Good, maybe you will choke to death on your own vomit!
Let me know if there is anything I can do to help that along.
Gatlin posted on 2017-10-23 20:24:52 Reply Private Reply
#9: Gatlin To: hondo68 (#7)
Have you seen any evidence whatsoever they are?
No?
I thought not.
Remember: Semper necessitas probandi incumbit ei qui agit, the translation of which is: The necessity of proof always lies with the person who lays allegations and charges.
Gatlin posted on 2017-10-23 20:29:36 Reply Private Reply
#10: buckeroo To: Gatlin (#8)
I love it when I make your blood boil when I create simple statements and last nite is a signature of your reactive conditon. It proves my control of your actions. ROTFL.
buckeroo posted on 2017-10-23 20:31:27 Reply Private Reply
#11: Gatlin To: buckeroo (#10)
If that bothers you, then it greatly pleases me.
ROTFLMAO@U
Gatlin posted on 2017-10-23 20:38:00 Reply Private Reply
#12: buckeroo To: Gatlin, yukon (#11)
buckeroo posted on 2017-10-23 20:52:29 Reply Private Reply
#13: Hondo68 To: Gatlin, *Border Invasion* (#9)
Experience Senator Juan McAmnesty's lettuce picking "guest workers", then write him a thank you letter with a big fat check enclosed.
Hondo68 posted on 2017-10-23 20:54:33 Reply Private Reply
#14: Gatlin To: hondo68, A K A Stone (#7)
No, you are the dumb one for trying to pass off lies and not expecting to be caught/ You need to learn that you just cannot make up lies and not expect to be caught. Even Breitbart was unsuccessful with all their sophistication. If Breitbart cannot succeed .then how in Heavens sake do you ever expect to?
Gatlin posted on 2017-10-23 20:55:34 Reply Private Reply
#15: Gatlin To: hondo68 (#13)
I need to do nothing of the kind. But what you need to do is to quit lying and trying to feed false information and fake news to intelligent people who simply read your posts just to consider the source and laugh at you.
Gatlin posted on 2017-10-23 20:58:46 Reply Private Reply
#16: Gatlin To: buckeroo (#12)
Asshole, you dont MAKE me do anything .no one does and no one ever can.
I fully understand that I do only what I want to and I only do it when I really want to.
And I also fully understand that I only react to your posts to show your ignorance and expose your misguided outlook on life. Not to improve it, for no one can .but to make fun of you and laugh at you!
LOLAY right back at you .
Gatlin posted on 2017-10-23 21:05:21 Reply Private Reply
#17: buckeroo To: Gatlin (#16)
You sit around the Internet on chit-chat channels as though you have meaningful purpose. I think you are a total loser.
buckeroo posted on 2017-10-23 21:11:17 Reply Private Reply
#18: Hondo68 To: Gatlin (#14)
with one of you and your hairstylists at the base barber shop?
Hondo68 posted on 2017-10-23 21:13:12 Reply Private Reply
#19: Gatlin To: buckeroo (#17)
Bullshit!
You dont have enough undamaged brain cells to think anything.
You are a crazed zombie acting from animalistic instincts.
Gatlin posted on 2017-10-23 21:16:21 Reply Private Reply
#20: Gatlin To: hondo68 (#18)
Something you can easily learn to do.
Stop your depraved lying .
Gatlin posted on 2017-10-23 21:18:11 Reply Private Reply
#21: Gatlin To: buckeroo (#17)
Like this information I ran across on the Internet and found interesting .I will share:
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The Belize murder rate is third highest in the world - more than twice the homicide rate of Chicago and higher than any U.S. city.
You are just were you need to be, among a bunch of criminal reprobates.
You finally found a home befitting your character.
God Bless and Good Riddance
Gatlin posted on 2017-10-23 21:35:09 Reply Private Reply
#22: Gatlin To: buckeroo (#17)
Why do you need to be gainfully employed anyway since you are long past 65 years of age? Were you too stupid to plan ahead for retirement?
As for me, I have no responsibilities to perform anything I dont choose to undertake. All I have to do is research potential stock trades during the night and be ready for the stock market to open at six thirty every weekday so I can begin swing trading. Which is something I continue to successfully do .something that permitted me to retire at such a young age to enjoy life in beautiful Scottsdale.
Unlike you, I planned ahead and invested wisely so I was able to fully in 1975 at just over 40 years in age.
And what a wonderful retirement it is.
Gatlin posted on 2017-10-23 21:56:42 Reply Private Reply
#23: nolu chan To: hondo68, Gatlin, A K A Stone (#7)
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/executive_orders.php?year=2017&Submit=DISPLAY
Here is a list of all Presidential Executive Orders in 2017. Identify the one you are talking about.
Perhaps you mean a September statement from the Office of the Press Secretary ending the DACA program.
nolu chan posted on 2017-10-24 01:05:46 Reply Private Reply
#24: Hondo68 To: nolu chan, *Border Invasion* (#23)
Yes that's the one where Trump orders the Press Secretary to protect the "Dreamers" for six months to give congress time to NOT repeal DACA. No way will Nancy Pelosi, Paul Ryan, Chuck Schumer, Mitch McConnell and the D&R Party reconquista majority in congress, do anything except to love, cherish, and protect Obama & Donald's illegal alien Dream Students.
Then they'll come up with another installment of "Why We Have to Keep the Dream Students", undocumented MS-13, undocumented ISIS Muslims, Senator Juan McCain's lettuce pickers, etc, illegal aliens.
It's clear that they're dithering around until after the elections to pass an amnesty bill. It's gonna be a lots of laughs hearing their BS excuses to surrender the USA to Aztlan & Allah!
It's a situation comedy show, that's NOT funny!
Hondo68 posted on 2017-10-24 02:27:58 Reply Private Reply
#25: Hondo68 To: nolu chan, 2021 amnesty bill attempt (#23)
Yes that's the one where Trump orders the Press Secretary to protect the "Dreamers" for six months to give congress time to NOT "deal with the DACA issue". There IS no issue, the law is that illegal aliens are to be deported. President Trump refuses to do his duty and order the Dreamers deported. Obama was the same. Bush loved the illegal aliens, but we defeated his amnesty bill. The last president to do his duty was Ike Eisenhower with his Operation Wetback.
In addition to that law, the US Constitution says that the Federal Government's duty is "to protect the States against invasion".
No way will Nancy Pelosi, Paul Ryan, Chuck Schumer, Mitch McConnell and the D&R Party reconquista majority in congress, do anything except to love, cherish, and protect Obama & Donald's illegal alien DACA Dream Students.
Then they'll come up with another installment of "Why We Have to Keep the Dream Students", undocumented MS-13, undocumented ISIS Muslims, Senator Juan McCain's lettuce pickers, etc, illegal aliens.
It's clear that they're dithering around until after the elections, to once again try to pass an amnesty bill. It's gonna be a lots of laughs hearing their BS excuses to surrender the USA to Aztlan & Allah!
It's a situation comedy show, that's NOT funny!
Hondo68 posted on 2017-10-24 03:35:41 Reply Private Reply
#26: A K A Stone To: hondo68 (#24)
A K A Stone posted on 2017-10-24 07:24:26 Reply Private Reply
#27: Gatlin To: hondo68, nolu chan (#24)
Huh ????
Yea, Hondo .
What does give the Press Secretary theAUTHORITY to PROTECT the Dreamers?
Gatlin posted on 2017-10-24 08:39:55 Reply Private Reply
#28: BobCeleste To: Tooconservative (#0)
BobCeleste posted on 2017-10-24 10:52:49 Reply Private Reply
#29: Tooconservative To: BobCeleste (#28)
Gillespie certainly is no cause for excitement, even if you want to the Dems demoralized even further. They are dealing with a full-scale panic by their big donors and it seems the Hollyweird Weinstein sex scandal has rocked their boats a bit.
Tooconservative posted on 2017-10-24 11:54:41 Reply Private Reply
#30: Hondo68 To: Gatlin, no DACA law, its executive orders (#27)
Thank you for reinforcing my point. The Donald can't abdicate his duties and responsibilities to some flunky, or pass congress an empty box with DACA written on the outside, and claim that it's a "win". President Trump has failed to enforce immigration law and deport the illegal alien "Dream Students". There never was any DACA legislation or law that passed congress! DACA is only Executive Orders by Obama and Trump.
He's also failed to obey the US Constitution "to protect the States against invasion" by continuing to accept and grant applications for DACA illegal alien sanctuary during the first part of his term. Those Trump "Dream Students" are still here, along with Obama's, and they've all still got sanctuary under President Trump's administration.
Hondo68 posted on 2017-10-24 16:55:23 Reply Private Reply
#31: A K A Stone To: hondo68 (#30)
A K A Stone posted on 2017-10-24 17:10:21 Reply Private Reply
#32: Hondo68 To: A K A Stone, Gatlin, Dreamers (#31)
I'm guessing that it's going to be an even tougher fight than it was in 2005-6 defeating the George W. Bush amnesty.
May God bless and protect you and yours from the Obama/Trump "Dream Students".
Hondo68 posted on 2017-10-24 19:28:45 Reply Private Reply
#33: sneakypete To: Gatlin (#27)
sneakypete posted on 2017-10-24 20:47:02 Reply Private Reply
#34: Gatlin To: hondo68, A K A Stone (#32)
Sometimes an image or even a short phrase is more than sufficient to unmask the pretensions behind an unapologetic who constantly tries to see and express himself as a critical poster.
This is one of those times
Your intrinsically outrageous gelation and gross irreverence towards the profanation blasphemous behavior of using prayer has now moved me to tear up
Gatlin posted on 2017-10-24 21:19:02 Reply Private Reply
#35: Gatlin To: sneakypete (#33)
Gary Coleman May He Rest In Peace.
Gatlin posted on 2017-10-24 21:23:25 Reply Private Reply
#36: sneakypete To: Gatlin (#35)
sneakypete posted on 2017-10-24 21:28:44 Reply Private Reply
#37: Gatlin To: sneakypete (#36)
I did not he had died.
Gatlin posted on 2017-10-24 21:30:13 Reply Private Reply
#38: Hondo68 To: Gatlin, snowflake (#34)
Hondo68 posted on 2017-10-24 23:44:59 Reply Private Reply
#39: Gatlin To: hondo68 (#38)
It must be extremely hard for you to face the stigma attached to confessing that you are incapable of feeling sympathy. However, this is not unusual for a person whose range of emotions are stunted to say the least and all are negative. It probably is a lack of belief in human interdependence that fuels your unsympathetic behavior. It must be a lonely and desolate place for you to be .feeling like you are an alien among your own species.
Gatlin posted on 2017-10-25 00:22:40 Reply Private Reply
#40: nolu chan To: hondo68, Gatlin, A K A Stone (#30)
There is no Executive Order implementing DACA. Therefore, there is no EO to repeal.
DACA was an Obama announcement in the Rose Garden that DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano had issued a memorandum with the subject, "Exercising Prosecutorial Discretion with Respect to Individuals Who Came to the United States as Children," dated June 15, 2012. Janet Napolitano implemented DACA.
The Trump administration announced the winding down and elimination of DACA.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/speech/attorney-general-sessions-delivers-remarks-daca
nolu chan posted on 2017-10-25 02:07:13 Reply Private Reply
#41: Gatlin To: hondo68 (#30)
You are so pathetically ill informed.
There has NEVER been any Executive Order issued by Obama or Trump on DACA.
Keep posting.
You are the best jester we have on the forum .well, besides Deckard.
Gatlin posted on 2017-10-25 10:15:02 Reply Private Reply
#42: Hondo68 To: nolu chan Gatlin, A K A Stone, Sanctuary Don, *Border Invasion* (#40)
The order from Trump's Acting DHS Secretary Elaine C. Duke to ICE, CBP, etc, to continue DACA "Dream Student" sanctuary.
Hondo68 posted on 2017-10-25 11:02:00 Reply Private Reply
#43: Hondo68 To: All, nolu chan, Gatlin (#42)
Hondo68 posted on 2017-10-25 11:22:25 Reply Private Reply
#44: Gatlin To: hondo68, nolu chan, A K A Stone (#42)
Uh, you need to help me understand what you are TRYING to say or show here.
You originally said that DACA is only Executive Orders by Obama and Trump.
What your post here is a Memorandum from Elaine C. Duke
Are you TRYING to say this is an Executive Order by Trump?
Gatlin posted on 2017-10-25 12:59:14 Reply Private Reply
#45: Hondo68 To: Gatlin, Dream Student sanctuary USA (#44)
Trump is the the Chief Executive. The flunkies do his bidding.
Unless a federal gov employee is in the Judicial or Legislative branch, they work for President Trump.
Hondo68 posted on 2017-10-25 13:21:03 Reply Private Reply
#46: Gatlin To: hondo68 (#45)
You did say Executive Order .right?
Go back and look....if you need to.
I dont know what your problem is. Like always, you never make yourself clear.
I do know that Obama did not have the authority to waive immigration law, nor did he have the authority to create it out of thin air.
While running for president, Donald Trump said that he intended to stop DACA.
AG Jeff Sessions announced on September 5, 2017, that DACA was being stopped---- being repealed----and he said the DACA-eligible individuals were lawbreakers who adversely impacted the wages and employment of native-born Americans.
Trump made good on his decision to terminate DACA.
Admin memo: DACA recipients should prepare for 'departure from the United States' .
Gatlin posted on 2017-10-25 13:30:07 Reply Private Reply
#47: Hondo68 To: Gatlin, Donalds Dreamers (#46)
You're nitpicking. The same thing was announced by the WH press secretary, and Jeff Sessions at DOJ.
It's official President Donald J. Trump administrative procedure, to continue DACA sanctuary.
There is no memorandum (guidelines, policy statements, etc.) to ICE or any other agency, from anyone in the fed gov, to enforce immigration law & the US Constitution and deport DACA illegal aliens.
Hondo68 posted on 2017-10-25 13:58:39 Reply Private Reply
#48: Hondo68 To: Gatlin (#46)
Has not BEEN stopped. That's an action to be taken in the future, maybe. DACA is still in effect right now.
Maybe a few rubes believe that the "Dream Students" are preparing to depart, but I'm not one of them.
Hondo68 posted on 2017-10-25 14:05:32 Reply Private Reply
#49: Gatlin To: hondo68 (#47)
ICE Already Has Everything They Need to Start Targeting DACA Recipients for Deportation
Gatlin posted on 2017-10-25 14:10:44 Reply Private Reply
#50: Hondo68 To: Gatlin (#49)
They came to Senator McCain's lettuce patch to pick, and now they're Dream Students.
Only in Gatlin's America!
Hondo68 posted on 2017-10-25 14:43:25 Reply Private Reply
#51: Gatlin To: hondo68 (#50)
Maybe a few rubes believe that, but Juan Manuel Montes-Bojorquez is not one of them.
Juan Manuel is believed to be the first DACA recipient to be deported.
AG Jeff Sessions said: "Everybody in the country illegally is subject to being deported, so people come here and they stay here a few years and somehow they think they are not subject to being deported well, they are."
Juan Manuel Montes-Bojorquez is suing the U.S. government.
The Feds will allow Juan Manuel back in only to pursue his legal case.
Good luck with that, Juan.
Gatlin posted on 2017-10-25 14:50:55 Reply Private Reply