There is no hatred more complete and no malevolence more fanatical than that held by the American political class for the American people. The commissar’s rage against the kulaks, the jihadist’s fury against the infidel, the inquisitor’s wrath against the unbeliever, all of this pales in comparison to the genocidal bloodlust Senators and Congressmen have against their own constituents. And even as they gleefully promote the outsourcing of jobs, the importation of cheap labor, and the ruthless extirpation of property, wealth and liberty, these shameless parasites demand their slaves die to export their filthy System all over the world.
The most contemptible and dangerous of these vermin is Senator John McCain. In a political career marked by near constant betrayal and hypocrisy, there are only two constants to his bloody career. The first is a passion for war, any war, for any reason, which can only be termed pathological. The second is the desire to replace the people of his own state and the voters of his own party.
Like a dying venomous snake, McCain is using his final moments to strike at President Trump and those who supported him.
In remarks gleefully repeated by the sociopathic controlled media, McCain simpered:
To fear the world we have organized and led for three-quarters of a century, to abandon the ideals we have advanced around the globe, to refuse the obligations of international leadership and our duty to remain ‘the last best hope of earth’ for the sake of some half-baked, spurious nationalism cooked up by people who would rather find scapegoats than solve problems is as unpatriotic as an attachment to any other tired dogma of the past that Americans consigned to the ash heap of history.
[Read John McCain’s Liberty Medal ceremony speech, Boston Globe, October 17, 2017]
It’s worth noting McCain gave his comments while accepting an award from…Joe Biden. Much like McCain’s “patriotism” consists of deconstructing the Historic American Nation itself, Biden poses as a champion of the “working class” because he rides Amtrak but supports “constant, unrelenting” immigration, outsourcing, anti-white racial preferences and endless, nihilistic wars. McCain and Biden, are, in all essentials, practically identical.
One aches to ask Senator McCain directly what “problem” he thinks will be more effectively “solved” by importing the Third World. National security? Health care? Collapsing wages? Rising inequality? Crumbling infrastructure?
McCain’s mumblings are practically self-discrediting. But as American journalists exist to serve power and suppress dissent it’s unlikely the Senator has been or will ever be asked to defend such ludicrous claims.
McCain draws a distinction between “nationalism” and “patriotism,” with the former being defined by the concrete realities of history and heritage and the latter formed by mysterious abstractions.
“We live in a land made of ideals, not blood and soil,” he explained. “We are the custodians of those ideals at home, and their champion abroad.”
These ideals, as is customary when they are invoked, are not defined. Yet given McCain’s tributes to the “immigrant’s dream,” the land which “reinvents itself,” and the current “international order,” his remarks are being hyped as a rebuke of “Trumpism” and celebrated by Leftist journalists who suddenly claim the right to define what is “conservatism” or “Republicanism” [John McCain just delivered a total and complete takedown of Trumpism, by Chris Cillizza, CNN, October 17, 2017]
McCain’s ideals would be unrecognizable, not only to the Founding Fathers, but to practically any other American generation in history. Would the Father of Our Country have countenanced endless interventionism? Would either Jefferson or Hamilton have recognized a moral imperative for self-annihilation? Would any Federalist or anti-Federalist celebrate the replacement of the very people who had just won independence from the British Empire?
McCain’s denunciation of “nationalism” is also selective. McCain is quite eager to defend the borders of other nations. “We are all Ukrainians,” he declared on one occasion [Senator John McCain: “We Are All Ukrainians, by Jay Newton-Small, Time, February 28, 2014]. “We are all Georgians” he pronounced on another.
It is only when it comes to America that McCain’s “patriotism” becomes abstract and imaginary. Indeed, it seems every people on earth has a right to “blood and soil” which must be safeguarded by American arms, except Americans themselves.
Even as this is written, Kurds and Iraqis are on the brink of war [The Kurdish War with Iraq, by Thomas Ricks, Foreign Policy, October 17, 2017]. If it erupts, once again, the tribal hatreds and border conflicts of peoples who should be of interest to us only in anthropology textbooks will be cause for the death of American soldiers.
The sacrifice of our military is framed as “leadership.” “That leadership has had its costs, but we have become incomparably powerful and wealthy as we did,” McCain gloats. And he is right, in speaking of his peers; he and his fellow parasites are indeed incomparably powerful and wealthy.
But such power and wealth does not trickle down to those he ostensibly represents. The wages of working Americans have stagnated for decades, and even skilled workers can barely earn a wage sufficient to support a family.
And “power?” The tyranny of George III that our forefathers rose against would be a glorious boon for ordinary Americans of today, as their lives, families, communities, and property are forfeit to the whims of unelected bureaucrats, publicly funded “activists,” or sadistic reporters eager to rouse a mob. McCain’s tribute to America’s “power” and “wealth” is reminiscent of an Ottoman sultan boasting about shared victories to the janissaries he’s kidnapped from Eastern Europe.
The democratic system McCain pledges Americans to defend is a form of government in which elected officials blatantly lie to their constituents and then taunt them at the very moment of betrayal. Consider McCain himself. He campaigned on repealing Obamacare, and then gleefully voted to save it [Mr. McCain Goes To Washington, by John Fund, National Review, July 30, 2017] He promised to “complete the danged fence” but instead has done his best to make sure Arizona ceases to be an American state in any meaningful sense.
One may disagree with monarchy or some other form of unelected leadership, but it seems vastly preferably to a system where political power is awarded to the most outrageous liar. Such a system should not be tolerated, let alone fought for.
Besides, the liberal international order McCain defends is nothing of the kind. The Western world is not free. [The Liberalism That Isn’t, by Costin Alamariu, Daily Caller, September 7, 2017] East Germany in the 1980s was in some ways more free than contemporary Germany is today: it would not have occurred to Erich Honecker to expose his subjects to mass sexual assault at the hands of Muslim invaders and then arrest anyone who protests. [Married couple sentenced for migrant critical Facebook post, by Chris Tomlinson, Breitbart, July 8, 2016]
The Occupation Government in Washington has presided over the Death of the West. The world order McCain defends is, quite explicitly, built on the dispossession of the European-Americans who actually created the American polity. If our civilization or country is to survive in any meaningful sense, that order must be destroyed.
And that means replacing the political class, the enemy collaborators, exemplified by the likes of Senator McCain. His warmongering against a nuclear armed Russia is unhinged. His desire to hurt our own nation is so unrelenting and energetic one wonders if he is working under duress or threat of blackmail. I almost hope so. To think he actually believes these ideas is a terrifying possibility.
It is not polite to speak ill of the terminally ill. Yet this cruel, murderous and thoroughly despicable character poses a threat not just to the existence of the American nation, but to the very lives of people all over the world.
I wish the Senator no harm. I only offer a desperate prayer in self-defense that his retirement will be forthcoming and his media megaphone removed.
The political life not just of our country, but of the world, must be rid of this Man of Blood, this sociopathic butcher—who, shuffling to his grave, seems determined to drag us all down with him.
#31: Hondo68 To: Tooconservative, yukon, meguro, Gatlin, Bob Dornan (#29)
Gatlin hates B1 Bob Dornan because he slams McCain for his POW/MIA information cover ups, as a Senator from Arizona.
Hondo68 posted on 2017-10-22 23:29:05 Reply Private Reply
#32: Gatlin To: Tooconservative (#29)
I enjoyed the video, thanks for sharing. It brought back two pleasant memories.
First, I was on the both the receiving end and the pumping end of the KC-135 refueling boom many times. I was on the receiving end during my ten years in the B-58. Then I was on pumping end of the KC-135 during my final year of service awaiting retirement. The refueling squadron I was assigned to was based in Altus AFB Oklahoma but performed refueling support flying out of Eielson AFB Alaska for the RC-135 reconnaissance aircraft. And yes Sarah….”I really could see Russia out the window.”
Secondly, I had to hit a quick stop of the video at 3:48 when I saw the same 100-4 model of the red 1955 Austin Healey I had purchased new in Paris and shipped back to the states when my tour of duty in Europe was over.
Again, thanks …
Gatlin posted on 2017-10-22 23:39:55 Reply Private Reply
#33: Gatlin To: GrandIsland (#28)
Gatlin posted on 2017-10-22 23:57:47 Reply Private Reply
#34: Gatlin To: Tooconservative (#32)
Link: 1955 Le Mans disaster.
Link: Austin-Healey racing car at centre of 1955 Le Mans disaster that killed 84 is set to sell for £1m.
Link: Tom drives the infamous 1955 Le-Mans Austin Healey 100S .
Gatlin posted on 2017-10-23 03:06:09 Reply Private Reply
#35: Gatlin To: hondo68 (#31)
Humor in forum postings can be acknowledged widely as a area of linguistic importance. However, failed humor will definitely not received much linguistic attention. After reading your asinine failed humor remarks an educated person can easily understand why.
Gatlin posted on 2017-10-23 03:56:12 Reply Private Reply
#36: Gatlin To: buckeroo, A K A Stone (#27)
Understanding truth and the need to illuminate the notion of truth is a simple role played in an intelligent person’s ordinary objective thought. This has long been established in our logical, philosophical and scientific theorization.
Acknowledging truth involves the concern for substantive background issues and the identification of the bearers of truth and good will. A person who has the innate ability to distinguish truth from other notions and call attention to that should not be challenged or chastised….they should be complimented.
You may now say: ”Thank you, Stone, for defending truth!”
Gatlin posted on 2017-10-23 04:30:17 Reply Private Reply
#37: Gatlin To: buckeroo, A K A Stone, GrandIsland (#30)
Before being brutally honest, you first need to be brutally clear by stating exactly what GI claimed you performed you say that you did not?
You definitely need to illuminate and resolve the puzzle you created.
***SNICKER:*** And you have the intrepidity to suggest that I am one of the worst posters on this chit-chat channel. ***SNICKER:***
Gatlin posted on 2017-10-23 04:52:38 Reply Private Reply
#38: Gatlin To: GrandIsland, buckeroo, A K A Stone (#30)
WTF is this stupid twit blithering about now?
Why in God's name can’t he think clearly so as to only talk straight and direct in his posts and be understood?
Never mind answering the second question….it’s rhetorical.
Gatlin posted on 2017-10-23 05:09:47 Reply Private Reply
#39: Tooconservative To: Gatlin (#34)
One of the most handsome sports cars, styling ahead of its time really. The early Covettes and Porshes had nothing over it.
Tooconservative posted on 2017-10-23 06:17:09 Reply Private Reply
#40: Gatlin To: Tooconservative (#39)
I had planned to take the five hour drive from Toul-Rosières AFB France over to watch portions of the “1955 24 Hours of Le Mans” to see the Austin Healey run, but a last minute situation change made it unable for me to make the trip. I all to soon learned that cancellation may have been a blessing when information about the historic crash began to filter out.
I had a ’58 100-6 red-over-black four seater later on at Grissom AFB and my aircraft commander had a black ’62 3000. He lived across the street and we would head out to fly and return from flying in formation.
Enough about the Austin Healey….thanks for triggering the memories.
Gatlin posted on 2017-10-23 09:45:55 Reply Private Reply
#41: Tooconservative To: Gatlin (#40)
The '58 2-seater, red-over-black.
That model with Ice Blue and Ivory interior was ahead of its time. What a pussy wagon. Anyway, it shows the interior layout nicely. : )
Tooconservative posted on 2017-10-23 10:00:56 Reply Private Reply
#42: Hondo68 To: Reconquistas, Gatlin, Panama Juan McAztlan, *Border Invasion* (#35)
You and your Panamanian Senator both need to be deported to Aztlán!
The Mexica depart from Aztlán. From the 16th Century Codex Boturini. Created by an unknown Aztec hand in the 16th century.
(Gatlin & McCain journey to America)
Hondo68 posted on 2017-10-23 11:15:18 Reply Private Reply
#43: Gatlin To: Tooconservative (#41)
The wheels in the second photo replaced the wire spokes which were a bitch to keep balanced.
I added four seat belts to the seats shown in the bottom photo. Those seat belts would of course be of no help in a roll over but they would be in a spin out.
I had only two kids at the time and we took a grand tour one summer from Grissom AFB through Gettysburg and on up to Niagara Falls and back with the top down all the time. Fun times …
Gatlin posted on 2017-10-23 11:20:33 Reply Private Reply
#44: Gatlin To: hondo68 (#42)
Instead of continuing to take the abuse heaped on you, why don’t you do what Muslims do?
You may find it more gratifying and far less painful.
Just suggesting …
I am done with you for now on this thread….FUCK OFF.
Gatlin posted on 2017-10-23 11:28:06 Reply Private Reply
#45: sneakypete To: Gatlin (#44)
sneakypete posted on 2017-10-23 11:29:23 Reply Private Reply
#46: Gatlin To: sneakypete (#45)
Gatlin posted on 2017-10-23 11:31:50 Reply Private Reply
#47: Liberator To: hondo68 (#42)
Heh!
Two insane peas in a pod.
Liberator posted on 2017-10-23 11:39:33 Reply Private Reply
#48: Liberator To: hondo68, Deckard (#31)
That there is some funny stuff...
Liberator posted on 2017-10-23 11:40:46 Reply Private Reply
#49: sneakypete To: Deckard (#0)
Not true. McLunatic is pretty damn despicable,but he wasn't a traitor until he became a POW and was suddenly no longer a Prince in the US Navy. For the first time in his life,he was suddenly no better,and most importanly,no better protected or treated than everyone else around him. The culture shock brought out the self-serving coward in him,and the ability to blackmail him over what he did as a POW was the nail in his coffin. Once a blackmailer starts to control you,they never quit until you are put in the ground. Over time,someone who is being blackmailed will allow their ego to come forward to justify their actions to themselves as the right thing to do because no one can live with self-hate.
PLEASE note this doesn't excuse what he did after he was released. If he had of had the courage to stand up on his hind legs and admit the pain and the threat of being crippled for life scared him into helping the NVA,most people could have probably came to forgive him. Continuing to do it is what is unforgivable,and especially since he was in no danger then and just doing it for personal power and wealth.
On the other hand,we have people like Senator William Fulbright,who willingly and knowingly provided the North Vietnamese communist government with American battle plans while serving as the Chairman of the Senate Armed Forced Committee. Fulbright was personally responsible for the deaths of thousands of American soldiers.
Not to mention President Roosevelt and his commie cousin/wife and their incestuous relationship with their "kindly Uncle Joe".
Compared to them,McLunatic is a mere shoplifter.
sneakypete posted on 2017-10-23 11:44:29 Reply Private Reply
#50: sneakypete To: Willie Green (#2)
If you mean that,you are a fool.
sneakypete posted on 2017-10-23 11:48:01 Reply Private Reply
#51: tpaine To: A K A Stone (#26)
I asked him and he answered, then he concluded with another question, which I answered.
His humble reply was very satisfying. Thanks...
tpaine posted on 2017-10-23 11:54:16 Reply Private Reply
#52: sneakypete To: Gatlin (#6)
Well,he WAS.
You however show no evidence to back up this claim which is strongly contradicted by accounts from interviews with other POWs. Robert Timberg interviewed many POWs who served with McCain, said there's no evidence that he ever collaborated with the North Vietnamese. "I've never known of any occasion in which Sen. McCain provided the North Vietnamese with anything of value," Timberg said.
There was plenty of evidence during the war,but it was suppressed because his daddy was one of the most senior Admirals in the Navy,and the morale problem it would have created.
Also,more than one former POW has stated since they were released that they all had a "Gentleman's Agreement" to not divulge the names of any POW's the collaborated with the enemy to help preserve the honor of the officer corps.
Only ONE enlisted POW was held in Hanoi,a sailor that fell off the deck of a carrier and rescued by a NVN fishing boat.
sneakypete posted on 2017-10-23 12:09:17 Reply Private Reply
#53: sneakypete To: Gatlin (#12)
How many of them were officers,and how many were enlisted swine?
How many of them had daddies that were flag rank officers?
Names and ranks,please.
sneakypete posted on 2017-10-23 12:13:42 Reply Private Reply
#54: Gatlin To: sneakypete (#53)
You go look up that information….I am not your fucking secretary.
Gatlin posted on 2017-10-23 12:23:17 Reply Private Reply
#55: sneakypete To: Gatlin, ALL (#12)
You may find this interesting.
sneakypete posted on 2017-10-23 12:34:06 Reply Private Reply
#56: sneakypete To: Tooconservative (#29)
I am finally watching Pluto TV today. In fact,am listening to live news as I type this.
My Channel Master took a dump this morning. I can unplug it to reboot it and get it working again,but within a couple of minutes it shuts down again.
This is the second one to take a dump in around 4 years. The first one only lasted about 18 months.
Going to contact CM today about sending it in to be repaired. If they give me any grief,I won't be buying another one or recommending one to my friends. I will be looking for a practical alternative.
Luckily for me I only had about 3 percent of the internal hd filled,and it was mostly stuff I can miss without regret because it will be ran over and over again somewhere. I would be really steamed if I had not watched the most recent episode of Polkark that was recorded last night.
Going to have to type up a schedule so I make sure I watch upcoming episodes on the ROKU PBS station.
Do you know if it is possible to schedule and record ROKU programming?
sneakypete posted on 2017-10-23 12:45:36 Reply Private Reply
#57: sneakypete To: Tooconservative (#39)
I prefer the 3000 A-H,myself. Came damn close to buying one when I came back to Bragg from Okinawa,but since there were no A-H parts and service depts within 100 miles of either Bragg or my home,I had to pass.
A 3000 or a pre-71 XKE convertible were my dream cars back when they were affordable for most people. Now you have to be rich to buy either.
sneakypete posted on 2017-10-23 12:50:59 Reply Private Reply
#58: sneakypete To: Gatlin (#54)
Ok,you don't know.
Why is it so hard for you to admit it?
Is it because you actually do know,and don't want to admit all 8 were enlisted swine?
sneakypete posted on 2017-10-23 12:55:53 Reply Private Reply
#59: Tooconservative To: sneakypete (#56)
Well, I guess you could.
Most of these streams are not protected with strong HDCP copy protection. So you could get a HDMI splitter/deHDCP device off Amazon ($21). Then you can just plug it into a capture card or USB capture device like these. Price from $150-$400. Then you have to recompress it.
IOW, yes but it isn't something I would recommend for you to try. And I don't think you could schedule it very easily, that would be even harder to do.
You get more channels if you sign up at pluto.tv. Then go to their channel #2 (My Pluto). It will display a 6-digit code. You take that and use your browser to go to http://pluto.tv/activate and type in the code. It will unlock more channels for you.
You can also get a client program on your computer (Windows/Mac/Linux). The advantage is that it allows you to timeshift the Pluto shows. They used to allow recording it on your hard drive but apparently they only allow timeshifting now. Anyway, I can't get it to record now like it used to.
I see they are playing the old Route 66 shows. I wish they'd start playing Adam 12.
Do you know if that oldies channel, TVland, is available on Roku? There are a few others that have the old shows from the Fifties/Sixties/Seventies but I haven't found them on Roku yet.
Tooconservative posted on 2017-10-23 13:28:21 Reply Private Reply
#60: Gatlin To: sneakypete (#52)
Obviously all of this is only your reserved personal opinion or just wild conjecture.
Yes, it has been reported there was POW information suppressed but not the kind of information about which you speak.
It has been reported that the suppressed information was ONLY on POWs who never returned. Furthermore, nowhere has it been shown what information was suppressed or why.
Oh, there has always been loose talk….the kind of loose talk like you are engaging in now…. but the truth is hard to divine since there has never been any firm supportable evidence.
None of this loose talk or vague rumors has ever been considered factual, because they’ve never been confirmed, and would be very, very difficult, if not impossible to confirm.
Unless of course you have personal knowledge and privileged insight that has never been shared publically.
Gatlin posted on 2017-10-23 13:30:16 Reply Private Reply
#61: buckeroo To: Gatlin (#38)
Take my advice: you are a failure in life and as such, DIE.
buckeroo posted on 2017-10-23 14:53:04 Reply Private Reply
#62: Gatlin To: sneakypete (#55)
I did find that information most interesting….thanks. I have read everything I can find on the POWs over the years, but I missed that link. There are so many things I could comment on from reading the article but I don’t have time.
I find nothing in his statement to contradict anything I have read in the past. Sergeant Major Jon Cavaiani has my respect and great admiration….may he eternally rest in peace.
I did find one thing most interesting in reading the report. I remember that you posted no enlisted personnel were in the Hanoi Hilton….I believer that was what you said. Well, contrary to this…the Sergeant Major stated that he was in the Hanoi Hilton at the time the Paris agreement was signed and in contact with Ted Guy there at that time. Minor point, but I am a nitpicker for details.
I have long known that eight Vietnam POWs were charged with collaborating with the enemy. I think all were members of the “Peace Committee” although I am going from memory and could be wrong about this.
I also remember reading that Robert Garwood, a Marine Corps Pfc, was the only POW brought to trial and he was found guilty of collaborating with the enemy and assaulting a fellow soldier while a POW in Vietnam. Is that correct as you know it?
You may find this information interesting if youhave not already viewed it: Traitors or patriots? Eight Vietnam POWs were charged with collaborating with the enemy.
Edit: I went back and checked. You said: “Only ONE enlisted POW was held in Hanoi,a sailor that fell off the deck of a carrier and rescued by a NVN fishing boat.”
Now we know there were at least two …
Gatlin posted on 2017-10-23 14:59:01 Reply Private Reply
#63: Gatlin To: buckeroo (#61)
That’s good news,. Bucky.
Judging from the low response to your posts and the lack of any intelligent in the comments you make….I feel that no one gives a shit if you post anymore at all.
I know that I certainly don’t.
Gatlin posted on 2017-10-23 15:08:30 Reply Private Reply
#64: buckeroo To: Gatlin (#63)
You have further proved yourself to be worthy only of bottom whaleshit suck.
You got a serious problem. You are not just a loser in life. You deserve no compassion, either.
buckeroo posted on 2017-10-23 15:28:14 Reply Private Reply
#65: Gatlin To: buckeroo (#64)
I choose to now ignore you and not waste my valuable time with you any longer.
You have a nice day….or have you forgotten how to?
Gatlin posted on 2017-10-23 15:39:16 Reply Private Reply
#66: buckeroo To: Gatlin (#65)
buckeroo posted on 2017-10-23 15:45:26 Reply Private Reply
#67: Hondo68 To: Gatlin, Hoser Canary, Tokyo McDouche (#63)
Then go back to filling Tokyo Rose's douche bags!
Hondo68 posted on 2017-10-23 16:18:50 Reply Private Reply
#68: sneakypete To: Tooconservative (#59)
Thanks. Guess I am going to have to find another tuner with recording capabilities to buy.Sent a email to CM this afternoon telling them my problem,and waiting to see how they respond. If they aren't real helpful,I won't buy buying another 300 dollar tuner from them and won't recommend them to others,either.
You get more channels if you sign up at pluto.tv. Then go to their channel #2 (My Pluto). It will display a 6-digit code. You take that and use your browser to go to http://pluto.tv/activate and type in the code. It will unlock more channels for you.
Thanks for the tip,but I can't find any codes by going to channel 2,roku,or anywhere else.
I'm not a fan of the old tv shows. If I were,I could watch a ton of them off of my HD antenna. I get 39 channels,and at least 10 of them must be oldies channels.
I'll keep trying.
sneakypete posted on 2017-10-23 19:20:25 Reply Private Reply
#69: sneakypete To: Gatlin (#60)
Yeah,I tell ya what,how about you just eat shit and die. I suspect you have plenty of experience with the first,so you should get at least one new thrill if you follow my advise.
You love sucking up to the brass. We get it.
sneakypete posted on 2017-10-23 19:22:24 Reply Private Reply
#70: sneakypete To: Gatlin (#62)
IIRC,he was a Sgt E-5 or SSG E-6 when captured after the NVA took Hickory Hill. A good friend of my was involved in that battle. Lost a leg due to traumatic amputation from an AK round.
He and the other enlisted were moved to Hanoi when the Peace Talks were wrapping up,in anticipation of releasing them. They were the lucky ones. Most enlisted that were captured spent all their captivity in the jungles of either Laos,Cambodia,or SVN. Very few of them were ever heard of again. It was easier to just pop a AK round in their heads and walk away once the war ended. No inconvenient questions to be answered that way.
I also remember reading that Robert Garwood, a Marine Corps Pfc, was the only POW brought to trial and he was found guilty of collaborating with the enemy and assaulting a fellow soldier while a POW in Vietnam. Is that correct as you know it?
Those were the charges,but they were either dropped or he was acquitted because he got a discharge at Camp Lejune and walked away a free man. Haven't heard anything about him since them,but I suspect he is still alive or his death would have been commented on by the media.
Edit: I went back and checked. You said: “Only ONE enlisted POW was held in Hanoi,a sailor that fell off the deck of a carrier and rescued by a NVN fishing boat.”
He WAS the only enlisted man kept a POW at the Hanoi Hilton. The VN Communists,being the status-conscious comrades that they were,decied to keep the enlisted sailor there as a servant to the officers. He could run errands for them,and since they thought he was stupid (he was,after all an enlisted man),the ironic part is he pretty much had the run of the place compared to the lock down situations of the officers. They used him to carry verbal messages,and he kept a list in his head of the names,ranks,and serial numbers of every officer held there in case the NVA tried to hold some back. He was actually a pretty sharp cookie. Can't remember his name or if he remained in the Navy after being returned,but if he did you can be sure he always had plum assignments and early promotions the rest of his career.
sneakypete posted on 2017-10-23 19:34:45 Reply Private Reply
#71: sneakypete To: Tooconservative (#59)
Sooooo,now I am watching antenna teebee with no TIVO. Which means no pause and no rewinding.
I think this must be how cavemen used to live.
BTW,lookit what I just bought for 80 bucks from wal-mart.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/KKmoon-4CH-Channel-Full-1080N-720P-DVR-HD-Digital-Video-Recorder-With-1TB-Hard-Disk/306654269
sneakypete posted on 2017-10-23 22:06:04 Reply Private Reply
#72: Gatlin To: sneakypete (#70)
I still think about my friends and I always will.
Info: Norbert Gotner
Info: Robert Panek
Gatlin posted on 2017-10-23 23:01:09 Reply Private Reply
#73: Gatlin To: sneakypete (#69)
Even after this flare up which you are entitled to….what you said is still your reserved personal opinion or just wild conjecture. Face it …
Nah, the suck ups retired as 0-6s or even higher. I retired as an 0-4. I did my job and spoke my peace like I had always done as I worked my way up to E-6. The same way I will continue to do …
Gatlin posted on 2017-10-23 23:16:19 Reply Private Reply
#74: sneakypete To: Gatlin (#72)
No. He was at CNN,and almost all of their missions were in Laos,but some were in NVN. I know of one pilot CNN rescued after he was shot down after bombing Hanoi.
He was captured after the NVA overran the CNN radio relay site near DaNang that was called "Hickory Hill". Recon teams took turns providing security for the radio site,and it just happened they were there. The only time I was at DaNang was when I went there to catch a R&R flight to Australia,so I could be wrong about Hickory Hill's exact location. "Near" means different things to different people,and this goes double for locations of top secret radio sites.
I was at CCC,and our radio relay site was on a mountaintop in Laos,with the call sign of "Leghorn". I pulled radio watch up there several times. If you flew bombing missions in that area you probably heard our call sign,but had no idea where we were or who we were.
He actually escaped from the top of the hill as it was being overan,but was wounded and had lost his weapon. He was captured the next morning by a VN peasant that saw him and ran screaming to the local NVA. I have no idea why they thought he was important enough to take to North VN,but he got seriously lucky when they decided to take him there. Otherwise chances are he would have been listed as MIA and probably never seen again.
heading again back to SEA to the AC-130 unit at Ubon
Yeah,if you were flying Spooky gunships out of Thailand,you have heard the Leghorn call sign. If you were flying in 69,chances are we talked on the radio a time or two when I was running recon or Hatchet Force missions.
sneakypete posted on 2017-10-23 23:27:49 Reply Private Reply
#75: Gatlin To: sneakypete (#74)
Gatlin posted on 2017-10-23 23:50:23 Reply Private Reply
#76: Liberator To: sneakypete, Gilligan (#74)
Gilligan was making the peanut butter and jelly sammiches in the back.
Liberator posted on 2017-10-24 10:37:10 Reply Private Reply
#77: Liberator To: Gatlin, sneakypete (#75)
That's mighty white of you....considering on the ground you and your uppity AF pals would never have anything to do with Pete and his fellow grunts at the time.
Liberator posted on 2017-10-24 10:41:36 Reply Private Reply
#78: sneakypete To: Liberator (#77)
Not true. The USAF was never anything less than great with SF troops AFAIK. They even had at least one C-130 Flight Group in VN dedicated solely to flying us around and resupplying our camps.
Then there were the USAF guys flying helicopters out of Thailand in support of CCS SOG missions,the 20th something,and ALL the guys that flew bombers and gun ships. ESPECIALLY the guys flying the old C-47's and the C-130's. It is no exaggeration at all to say that I wouldn't be here typing these words tonight if it weren't for them coming down low and circling around us on the ground,and "laying down the damn-damn". Once so close on my my yards got wounded by one of their 7.62mm rounds.
LOTS of those guys,as well as Army helicopter pilots and crews were invited to parties at our camps as the guests of honor.
The only military people I ever had trouble with were conventional Army people,especially MP's,and Jarheads. The Air Force were great,and they also had the best mess halls and the friendliest head cooks.
sneakypete posted on 2017-10-24 20:56:44 Reply Private Reply
#79: GrandIsland To: Gatlin (#38)
Because he's a burnt out drug user... and most likely a cop hating pickle smoocher
GrandIsland posted on 2017-10-24 22:54:15 Reply Private Reply
#80: Willie Green To: sneakypete (#50)
Mexico ain't the one building the Wall, dumbfuck.
Willie Green posted on 2017-10-25 10:07:20 Reply Private Reply