In the context of postmodern "culture" where significant number of indivuals are so ignorant of (or even repelled by) science -- that they "believe" they can change their sex....

I'm unsure if they believe they can "change their sex" so much as they believe they already are, internally, of the opposite gender. It's not like they wake up one day and decide that they want to try something different by being a girl/boy.

Someone posted either here or on 4um a theory on at least the prevalence contemporary homosexuality, and that is that birth control pills might carry some of the blame. The theory goes, and supposedly has been demonstrated with rats, is that when a woman takes birth control pills, it screws up her hormones to have the desired effect of preventing pregnancy. When she comes off them, it takes time for her body to recover, but if she gets pregnant too soon, then the fetus is affected abnormally.

This offspring suffers no direct effects however. But then the chance of that child's children (i.e. the grand child of the woman who took BC pills) being homosexual is greatly increased.

Whether that's a cause or not, it does basically serve as a reminder that we do live in a chemical world which didn't exist 100 years ago, and enormous chemical exposure could be a factor in human development. Obviously homosexuality has existed for thousands of years so it couldn't be the only cause of it.

Now on transgenderism, I could give my own theory about that but it would be spiritually based, and though it makes a lot of sense to me, it's perhaps not welcome, so I'll not bother suggesting it.

 they believe they already are, internally, of the opposite gender.

Meanwhile, in reality land:  XX, XY, (and for a very small geneticaly malformed minority who are XXY etc) other .

Every Human is ONE of those at birth and, despite the latest fashionable Anti-Fa-LGBTQXYZWherever Transhumanist- Postgenderist, Newpeak - that. IS. Reality.

XX + XX = FAIL

XY + XY = FAIL

XX + XY = Human

Every Human is ONE of those at birth and, despite the latest fashionable Anti-Fa-LGBTQXYZWherever Transhumanist- Postgenderist, Newpeak - that. IS. Reality.

As I see it, we are more than "human". We are souls living in human bodies, and the soul makes up the bulk of our personality. If one believes that our human DNA defines all that we are, then yes, no further discussion is required.

Well, several billion years of BINARY natural selection speaks for itself.

YMMV.

XX + XX = FAIL

XY + XY = FAIL

XX + XY = Human

Well, several billion years of BINARY natural selection speaks for itself.

XX + XX = FAIL

XY + XY = FAIL

XX + XY = Human

Well, in the case of humans, true. But it's not true with all biological life, which if you subscribe to evolution, should perhaps be noted.

If I understood correctly, with some reptiles, they can have XX or XY or YX or YY chromes. If it's XY or YX, it's female. If XX or YY it's male.

One theory about how remote islands in the Pacific were populated suggests that a single female could cross the ocean and make landfall. Then it can have offspring without mating, meaning the offspring are all male, having either XX or YY chromes. Then the offspring could mate with their mother, generating both males and females. Kinda gross by human standards but hey, if that's what gets the species proliferated...

Just goes to show that relying on DNA XY chromes may not ultimately be an authoritative position.

So in nature, the line between male and female is not very straight, (no pun intended).

...by a kook. A kook who wants to make money off ads on YouBoob peddling CTs to even more gullible kooks.

But *you're* not always "peddling" a ridiculous discredited gubmint's, "Nothing to see here" CYA BS? That seems awfully "k00ky" to me.

The question here is whether it is plausible to consider elements within The Swamp are willing to do something/ANYTHING to sabotage the 2A or US Security in order to promote *their* agenda. After all, they operate in secrecy. With impunity and immunity. And appear married to the DNC, the MSM, and UN. As a sensible person, I'm sure you can do the math there.

Q: Whenever there are theories and heavy-duty circumstantial evidence that demonstrate *plausible* explanations for the inexplicable, why must you reflexively ALWAYS dismiss it? I'm hardly the only one who's always found that conspicuously odd. But since this isn't FR, a difference of opinion is expected.

However, there's doubt you've even delved a hair deep into analyzing this case (other than buying the gubmint's scripted SOS and MSM obfuscation.)

I suppose you believe TWA Flight 800 was just some mid-air "mishap" despite eyewitnesses to the contrary?

OR...0bama's Fast & Furious Op, the Benghazi Op, or IRS harassment of Tea Party organizers were just CTs too, right?

Well guess what? PROVEN: The SAME goob you respect and claim must be trusted on their version of events and speaks the truth...has as a rule conducted bogus investigation, lies and spins. REPEATEDLY.

This same gubmint whose version of "truth" YOU trust with all your heart is the VERY SAME gubmint whose Deep State and Swamp-Muck policies have over the decades purposely exposed regular Americans to damaging/fatal radiation, disease, and political saboteurs (Muzzies); protected and shielded the Klintoons and their shenanigans; AND made it crystal clear President Trump/MAGA = BAD, and Comrade 0bammy/Klintoon/Globalist-First = GOOD.

So...help me here. WHY can or should this goob be considered credible or trust-worthy any more than Alex Jones?

By what basis should we believe them? Over "investigations" about anything? Especially given the last 8 years under a Marxist/Alinsky-Disciple whose lack of historical transcripts and past, un-confirmed BC, collateral coincidental deaths (a la Klintoon), and elections are highly suspicious to begin with?

Since 1992 and Bubba's ridiculous election win over a sandbagging Poppy, it truly take the suspension of ALL logic to accept Swamp Critter versions of "troof" as gospel.

Kook on.

I'm not going to explore all these brave new worlds of kookery that you enjoy so much.

Much easier that way, eh?

Thought not.

Citing more kookeries doesn't actually help your case in proving a particular kookery, like this one from Natural News. But you'd know that if you weren't kooking out.

I will note that your anger...

I wouldn't waste an emotion like "anger" on your self-voluntary shilling for gubmint narratives. It's more like incredulity. The same emotion as with any zombie-fied Cultist...

That said, your reflexive reaction is typical of one whose "reality" is more wishful thinking than anything else.

Maybe that whole, "Santa is not real. REALLY, son!" spiel you heard in high school scarred you :-(

But I think there's a flaw in his analysis, and that is that all the math is based on the premise that the second shooter was firing .223 rounds just as Paddock was. Adams even admits early in the video that the distance & shot report tables is different for different types of rounds.

He likely used other calibers than .223 too, which makes his conclusion of a second shooter worthless. Even if he used .223 there's no guarantee that all of the ammo was 55gr bullets.

He's proved nothing. He's cherry picked one caliber, bullet weight, barrel length, twist and loading, to get hits to his crappy website.

I'm not saying that there wasn't more than one shooter, only that Adams hasn't proved it with his phony analysis.

Did you know that he has two gas chromatographs?

WHOA! Do his go to ELEVEN?

WHOA! Do his go to ELEVEN?

They can go as high as he wants.

WHOA! Do his go to ELEVEN?

Hehe... A reference to "Spinal Tap", no doubt.

Still funny....

Well, in the case of humans, true.

Uhuh. But don't tell the pronoun-challenged Transumanist-Postgenderists that... in California.

Hehe... A reference to "Spinal Tap", no doubt.

'Zactly!

He's claiming to have "proof" that he doesn't present - luring folks into clicking on his video, which is monetized.

That's FRAUD.

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Google already delisted his websites entirely.

Have you actually tried to google it?

Funny, entering healthranger.com into google yields this link. It it supposed to yield no result?

https://www.google.com/search?q=healthranger.com&oq=healthranger.com&gs_l=psy-ab.12..0.390751.399119.0.402145.19.18.1.0.0.0.119.1560.14j3.18.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.18.1569.0..0i131k1j0i67k1j0i10k1j0i10i30k1.80.HuDbfmMh_yo

You obviously don't understand what delisting is.

It means it won't show up in a google search. It is removed from the index. If it is not in the index, it cannot be found in the index. If it is still there, it is not delisted.

http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/D/delisting.html

You obviously don't understand what delisting is.

If KlingonBurger.com got delisted then they wouldn't show up in a search for "healthy burgers in gamma quadrant 4"

That kinda how it works?

If KlingonBurger.com

You still pushing the teleportion echo theory I see.

Paddock teleporting around shooting and your Klingon pic there to teleport him back and forth as he pleases.

You still pushing the teleportion echo theory I see.

Paddock teleporting around shooting and your Klingon pic there to teleport him back and forth as he pleases.

There's as much evidence for that as there is "PROOF!" that Paddock wasn't the only murderer.

That security guard panicked him, ruined his timetable all around.

Agreed

The rest of this amateur hour sleuthing via YouBoob videos is just a distraction.

I've responded and or handled many high profile crime scenes... and over the following weeks until the full incident is reported by LE, I've heard the most retarded conspiracy theories... when I know what actually happened. It's not even laughable.

I've responded and or handled many high profile crime scenes... and over the following weeks until the full incident is reported by LE, I've heard the most retarded conspiracy theories... when I know what actually happened. It's not even laughable.

A lot of the CT peddlers know full well they're hawking complete BS. But their objective is monetizing videos on YouBoob and driving clicks to their clickbaity websites.

We're seeing a steady stream of these frauds and their fanbois here at LF, from the Niburu/Planet X people to that Health Ranger idiot. So of course only idiocy can result from discussing any of it.

There are a lot of unanswered questions about Vegas. Hopefully, some of that will be cleared up tomorrow if they produce their big timeline and evidence dump as promised.

Found this interesting video.

Adams assumes a shooter using an AR-15 with .223 Remington 55 grain ammo.

He states 20% humidity.

He states a 925 m/s bullet velocity which is ~3034.8 fps.

He specifies a 16.5" barrel, but a 3034.8 fps initial velocity would seem to indicate a 20" barrel or different ammo.

I believe the white board has an error. The flight time should be 0.532s, not 0.528s.

It lists both the 400 yard flight time and the lag time as 0.528s. This would mean the bullet velocity was precisely double the speed of sound, and that double 0.528s, or 1.056s would be the 400 yard travel time for the speed of sound. The time of sound travel for 400 yards at 1130 fps is 1.062.

http://gundata.org/blog/post/223-ballistics-chart/

He cites his use of a gundata ballistics chart for travel time.

gundata indicates for 400 yards, the time of travel is 5.32s, specifying a standard 55gr Remington .223 bullet leaving the barrel at 3,215fps. Adams also specified a 16.5 inch barrel, but it seems an AR-15 with a 16.5 barrel does not achieve 3,215 initial velocity.

https://rifleshooter.com/2014/04/223-remington5-56-nato-velocity-versus-barrel-length-a-man-his-chop-box-and-his-friends-rifle/

Testing with different barrel lengths indicates an AR-15, 16.5" barrel, with Remington .223 ammo, does not achieve 3,034.8 muzzle ("initial") velocity.

With a 20" barrel, the same setup gets 3,071 fps muzzle velocity.

A 25" barrel gets it up to 3,221 fps muzzle velocity.

A 16.5" with Federal M193/55 gets 3,187 fps muzzle velocity.

http://guide.sportsmansguide.com/ballistic-chart/remington_charts/223rembal.htm

A ballistics chart indicates that a Remington .223 will not get the stated bullet velocity.

Assuming the shots were fired from room 32135, and that end of the Mandalay Bay Hotel was 1208 feet from the base of the bandstand, and that a bullet struck the pavement at or near the base of the bandstand, the long side a right triangle would be 1208 feet and the short side would be the height of room 32135.

The building claims a height of 480 feet and 44 stories, for an average of 10.91 feet per story. The 32nd floor would be 338.21 feet up. (31 x 10.91, base of floor 1 has zero height).

With sides of 1208 and 338.21, the hypotenuse would be 1254.45 feet.

The actual distance the bullet traveled would be more than that as it would not follow a straight path, but would follow an arc.

Using estimates of distance to striking the venue surface of ~1250 feet, and detected lag times of 0.559 sec and 0.374 sec, the slower bullet made the 0.374 lag time; the faster bullet arrived .559 sec before the muzzle blast.

At 1130 fps, the sound would cover 1250 feet in about 1.106 seconds.

A bullet making the 1250 ft trip .559 sec before the sound, made the trip in .547 sec.

A bullet making the 1250 ft trip .374 sec before the sound, made the trip in .732 sec.

1250 feet in .547 sec is an avg velocity of ~2236 fps.

1250 feet in .732 sec is an avg velocity of ~1708 fps.

This assumes both shots were taken from the same location.

What bullets were used can be ascertained by collecting the bullets. What was left in the room should be inventoried, along with what guns were in the room.

http://onyourownadventures.com/hunttalk/showthread.php?267715-308-Ammo-Help/page2

Thread: 308 Ammo Help

Most mfgs recommend a minimum velocity of 1800 fps for proper expansion. The so called "magic number" associate with elk hunting is 1200 lb ft Energy. Below that is risky and I prefer 1400 lb ft as my personal standard. Although every gun is different the ammo mfg. Will put their tested numbers out for their loads. According to Federal their TBT 165 gr out of a 308 maintains 1939 fps and 1377 lb ft at 500 yards. Mathematically that should do the job as long as the bullet hits it's mark. Federal lists the same weight game King at 1708 FPS and 1069 ft lb at 500 yards. Obviously not the best option. If you keep 400 yards and in either a 150 or 165 gr factory loaded bonded round should work fine on elk. You just need to find the one that goes exactly where you want it to every time you press the trigger.

This would suggest the possibility of the 1708 fps round being a .308 (or whatever else gets around 1708 fps at 400 - 450 yards.

http://gundata.org/blog/post/223-ballistics-chart/

This is a .223 ballistics chart (external) generated using our ballistic trajectory calculator. Based off a standard 55gr bullet leaving the barrel at 3,215fps and follows the bullet trajectory all the way to 1000 yards in steps of 50 yard increments. The charting shows the range, drop (based off a 1.5" scope mount), current velocity, energy, and time in seconds in relation to the bullets movement through space and time. This chart does not account for atmospheric conditions, so if you want to take in to effect these things check out the calculators official page. The Ballistic Coefficient for the .223 Remington, Remington Metal Case, 55gr is 0.202 (in this example) but, but may also range from .185 bc to .257

[...]

.223 Remington, Remington Metal Case, 55gr.

400 yards
-31.7981 [drop, inches]
1588 [Velocity]
308 [energy]
532 [time, milliseconds]

This ballistics chart indicates .532 seconds for 400 yards, at 1588 velocity.

.532 seconds would indicate 2255.6 average velocity for the 400 yards, and the velocity of the bullet leaving the barrel is specified at 3215 fps.

What was left in the room should be inventoried, along with what guns were in the room.

Keyword: "SHOULD"

Based on ballistics data, there are apparently unexplained inconsistencies. Now how can the science be explained away? (Oh wait -- it was already done in spades over 911.)

Why should we expect the same investigative agencies who ignored every shred of slam-dunk evidence regarding Hitlery (on a myriad of rock-solid federal charges) would EVER honestly investigate this case? Especially IF The Truth is politically incendiary?

Here's the bottom line:

Alphabet Agencies have a severe credibility problem that dates back at LEAST to Flight 800. Or even further -- past The Keith Hernandez Magic Loogie Incident, way back to JFK. This Cred-Gap was on full display during Hitlery's Hearing(s), as well as during their "RUSSIA-TRUMP RUSSIA-TRUMP RUSSIA-TRUMP!!" obsession and charade (that still percolates.)

We will NEVER get any definite truth out of these people on this case -- especially because THE Truth exposes every OTHER lie The Sheeple have been told, and because The Usual Suspects are involved.

Now how can the science be explained away? (Oh wait -- it was already done in spades over 911.)

In the Kennedy case, they not only sold a magic bullet, they sold that they took Oswald into custody but kept no reord of any question asked or any answer given, and Oswald was killed while in police custody by mafia good Jack Ruby who just happened to walk in off the street into the police HQ where Oswald was kept, and just happened to arrive as they were walking Oswald to a car for transfer, and Ruby felt so bad for Jackie that he just pulled out his gun and killed Oswald live, on national television.

You are so anal you MUST be a reloader/target shooter.

If not,you owe it to yourself to become one.

You were BORN to be one.

Come home,to where you belong.

Chances are you will develop a love-hate relationship with trap and skeet shooting,too.

I believe the white board has an error. The flight time should be 0.532s, not 0.528s.

Well you're smarter than I am.

Plus there's the little problem that he doesn't present any actual audio evidence.

I'm not saying there was one gunman or many. Just that your image doesn't prove shit.

Just that your image doesn't prove shit.

My meme references, measures, and explains actual audio.

An analysis of two sequential burts of gunfire between:
["Taxi Driver Video" the Zapruder Film of the Las Vegas shooting UNCUT / UNEDITED]
https://www.youtube.com/watch ?v=mBbOFwWquAw&feature=youtu.be&t=1m7s
and
https://www.youtube.com/watc h?v=mBbOFwWquAw&feature=youtu.be&t=1m24s

===============
T1: Time from start of video (1minute N seconds) at the time of the last shot in the burst.
T2: Time from the start of the video (1minute N seconds) at the time of the echoed sound event corresponding to T1.
TempF: the air temperature (72 degrees F)  
FPS:   1130 ft per second -- The speed of sound at 72 degrees F
Elapsed Time:  T2 minus T1, the number of seconds between the last shot, and the echo of the last shot in each burst.  
Total Distance:  Elapsed Time * FPS = the total distance traveled between T1 and T2.
Echo Distance  = The distance the echo traveled from the aiming point back to the point of origin.
===============

Conclusion:  Burst B is NOT two weapons being fired simultaneously.  It is one weapon being fired at a more distant target.  The longer distance, observable in the period between Burst B's T1 and T2, manifests a corresponding longer period of reverb.  It is the reverb that is being incorrectly interpreted as a second weapon (and second shooter) firing at the same time.

Research resources:
https://www.google.co m/search?biw=1544&bih=856&q=Forensic+Acoustics+gunfire
http://www.physic sclassroom.com/mmedia/waves/er.cfm
https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/usa/las- vegas/historic
http://www.csgnetwork.c om/soundspeedcalc.html

All numbers he pulled out of his arse?

Plus there's the little problem that he doesn't present any actual audio evidence.

The audio he used is presented.

Your chartoon is an absurdity.

The audio he used is presented.

LOL. He scribbled on a whiteboard.

The amplitude graphs of the audio referenced on my meme can be reproduced by anyone with minimal tools. It's REPRODUCIBLE - that's what differentiates valid science from conspiratorial buffoonery.

Show us the actual amplitude graphs or STFU.

The amplitude graphs of the audio referenced on my meme can be reproduced by anyone with minimal tools. It's REPRODUCIBLE - that's what differentiates valid science from conspiratorial buffoonery.

That you reproduce meaningless bullshit is meaningful, but not as you intend.

My meme references, measures, and explains actual audio.

Your chartoon lists "Test for Echo" and gives links to the Taxi Driver video.

Echo has nothing to do with measurements at the target site.

The methodology you link, and cite, is for measurements at the target site, only. It uses the sound of bullet strikes on the venue surface, and the sound wave of the muzzle blast reaching the same recording device, not any echo. They are recorded on the same nearby microphone at line of sight, not at two different locations, not line of sight, and over 300 feet apart.

You are absolutely clueless.

Here are your exact words about your chartoon being about two different sounds from the Taxi Driver Video:

https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=53025&Disp=42#C42

I used the same speed I used in my other analysis (appended below) - based upon an air temperature of 72 degrees

Then I calculated the difference in time between the last bullet sound (T1) and the corresponding last report sound (T2).

[graphic omitted]

T2-T1 = time the report traveled = 1.07

1.07 * FPS of 1130.8 = 1208.8

[graphic omitted]

An analysis of two sequential burts of gunfire between:
["Taxi Driver Video" the Zapruder Film of the Las Vegas shooting
UNCUT / UNEDITED]
https://www.youtube.com/watch ?v=mBbOFwWquAw&feature=youtu.be&t=1m7s
and
https://www.youtube.com/watc h?v=mBbOFwWquAw&feature=youtu.be&t=1m24s
===============
T1: Time from start of video (1minute N seconds) at the time of the last shot in the burst.
T2: Time from the start of the video (1minute N seconds) at the time of the echoed sound event corresponding to T1.
TempF: the air temperature (72 degrees F)
FPS: 1130 ft per second -- The speed of sound at 72 degrees F
Elapsed Time: T2 minus T1, the number of seconds between the last shot, and the echo of the last shot in each burst.
Total Distance: Elapsed Time * FPS = the total distance traveled between T1 and T2.
Echo Distance = The distance the echo traveled from the aiming point back to the point of origin.

===============

Here you are citing times sounds are heard in the taxi, at least 340 feet from the shooter and around the corner, and the time en echo returned from who knows where, by an unknown path, back to the taxi, still at least 340 feet from the shooter. Nothing can be accurately calculated with this data.

T2 - T1 is not the time some report traveled. It is time difference between the time of the bullet arrival report and the sound arrival report. If your dippy calculation were correct, and the bullet were subsonic, T1 would be larger than T2, the the time some mythical report traveled would be a negative number. T2 - T1 is larger or smaller depending on the difference between the speed of the bullet and the speed of sound. If the difference of the flight time of the bullet and sound at 1200 feet were .2 seconds, you would calculate (T2 - T1) the muzzle report traveled 400 yards in .2 seconds. The speed of sound would still take 1.06 seconds to travel 1200 feet. Regardless of what T2 - T1 indicates, the muzzle report will travel 1200 feet in 1.06 seconds. The difference between the two report times indicates the difference in the velocity of time and the velocity of the bullet. If the sound took 1.06 seconds, the distance was 1200 feet. With the known distance, the velocity of the bullet can be calculated.

NOTE: "1.07 * FPS of 1130.8 = 1208.8" is incorrect. 1.07 * 1130.8 = 1209.956.

NOTE: In the next mention FPS is 1130 ft per second at 72 degrees.

NOTE: If you are measuring time between two different gunshots, rather than a shot and its own echo, you cannot derive distance. You would be measuring the time between two shots, saying nothing of distance about either one.

The sounds are all from the Taxi Lady recording.

These sounds do not give the aiming point, or point of origin of the shots.

These sounds give the time sounds were recorded at the taxi.

A sound that traveled 1.07 seconds at the speed of sound went 1,209.1 feet. (1,130 * 1.07).

You cannot measure the Echo Distance from the aiming point back to the point of origin as there is no recording at the point of origin, the point of origin being the 32nd floor (supposedly). Both links go to the taxi video. The Echo Distance is from the point the sound reflected back, to the taxi location where it was recorded, following the path of the sound at ground level back to the taxi.

What is recorded on the Taxi Lady video is the sound that traveled from the 32nd floor to the taxi, and whatever may have come from elsewhere as a sound reflected back. For a sound and its echo to show up on the taxi video at a 1.07 second interval, it had to travel to a reflective surface and back in 1.07 seconds, going a total distance of 1,209.1 feet. The event venue was about 400 yards away.

For any recorded echo, the sound of the shot had to travel to the taxi, and the sound also had to travel from the 32nd floor to a reflecting surface and come back to the taxi. If the echo came from the venue area, 400 yards away, the echoed sound had to travel 400 yards to a reflective surface, then turn around and travel at least 400 yards, if the path were unobstructed at ground level, to the taxi location.

If 1,209.1 feet were one way, the round trip out and back to the 32nd floor would be about 2,418.2 feet. The path back to the taxi, if unobstructed would be somewhat shorter, as 1,209.1 would be the hypotenuse of a triangle, with the distance back to the taxi being the long side of the right triangle, if unobstructed. Any obstructions at ground level would cause the sound to take an indirect path back to the taxi.

You can make pretty graphics, and wonderful word salads, and throw around terms like relativity, but you cannot do simple calculation.

Your analysis is pretty, but it is complete bullshit. No echo traveled to the venue and returned in 1.07 seconds. For a sound recorded in the taxi, there can be no corresponding echo of that sound recorded 1.07 seconds later in the taxi, if the echo came from the venue area.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/02/us/mandalay-bay-vegas-shooting.html

Las Vegas Shooting: Chaos at a Concert
and a Frantic Search at Mandalay Bay

New York Times
UPDATED 10:30 PM ET, OCT. 2, 2017

Here is where 400 yards or 1200 feet come from. It is an estimated distance between Mandalay Bay and the Harvest Festival stage, at ground level, based on a Google image.

As for your bullshit figure of 1209 feet distance for the bullet, it has a major problem. The approximate 400 yards you are using as known distance was measured at ground level from a google image. In the scenario where the gunman is at the 32nd floor, and floors average 10.9 feet, the gunman is about 338 feet in the air. You would have 338 feet be the short side of a right triangle, where the hypotenuse is 1209 feet. The long side of the right triangle, representing distance at ground level would be 1,160.79 feet.

a² + b² = c²

338² + x² = 1209²

114244 + x² = 1461681

x² = 1461681 - 114244

x² = 1347437

x = 1160.79 feet.

50 feet here, 50 feet there, pretty soon it affects your calculations.

Your chartoon lists "Test for Echo" and gives links to the Taxi Driver video.

That's right.

What part of TWO. SEPARATE. ANALYSIS. are you failing to comprehend?

That you reproduce meaningless bullshit is meaningful

The amplitude graphs are reproducible by anyone who has simple tools and access to the video on Youtube.

Where's yours?

What part of TWO. SEPARATE. ANALYSIS. are you failing to comprehend?

What part of TWO idiotic analyses don't you understand?

The amplitude graphs are reproducible...

Proving imbeciles can reproduce. As the U.S. Supreme Court observed, "Three generations of imbeciles are enough."

Your chartoons, with your hilarious analysis, are entertaining, sort of like the scientific sounding youtubers preaching flat Earth theory.

Where's yours?

{ shrug } Maybe you just don't have what it takes.

Maybe you just don't have what it takes.

On your spreadsheet chartoon, notice that you calculate T = T_b - T_s.

You calculate elapsed time as the time it took the bullet to travel, minus the time it took the sound to travel.

As the bullet is supersonic, and sound is a constant, the sound would travel 400 yards in 1.06s and the bullet would travel the 400 yards in less than 1.06s. Subtracting 1.06 from a smaller number will always yield a negative number.

At 1200 feet, you actually calculate T_b as 0.448578s, and T_s as 1.062s and calculate the T as -0.6126, negative 0.6126 seconds. The average donkey could recognize that something is wrong when the result is negative time.

Just what do you think happens in negative 0.6126 seconds?

You could at least recognize that if you get a negative number, you have stated the required formula backwards, and you proceeded to perform the calculation backwards, and present the bass ackwards result of your understanding of the study you looked at.

You've got what it takes to make bullets travel in negative time.

Your brain apparently has zero amplitude.

>>at 1200 feet, you actually calculate T_b  as 0.448578s, and T_s as 1.062s and calculate the T as -0.6126, negative 0.6126 seconds.

0.448578 is the ballistic projectile time. 1.062 is the time to travel the same distance at the speed of sound

The MEASURED, absolute value, of the Ellapsed Time difference, per the audio amplitude graph...

...between the Last Bullet sound event and the Last Report sound event is 0.689655 

Now, ask your donkey - what distance does that MEASURED absolute time difference correspond to on the chart?

Now, ask your donkey - what distance does that MEASURED absolute time difference correspond to on the chart?

No Absolute value is ever expressed as a negative number. Had your undisclosed formula for the last column of your spreadsheet included code to express an absolute value, your spreadsheet results would not appear as negative numbers. But your spreadsheet displays negative numbers and you did not even question it or fix your spreadsheet.

The results should all be positive, like this:

Bullet Time, Velocity FPS, T_b–T_s

d = distance 400 yards, 1200 feet
T_b = Time of bullet
T_s = Time of sound, 1.062 seconds @ 1,130 feet per second (FPS) (72ºF, 20% Humidity)
T_s – T_b = Time difference between T_b and T_s

Column 1 = d/FPS = time in seconds
Column 2 = T_b stepped in 100 FPS increments, beginning with T_s
Column 3 = T_s – T_b (time in seconds supersonic bullet arrives ahead of sound)

Row 1 = directly inserted data. Data display is set to show 3 decimal places.

• 1.062947 is the time for sound to travel 400 yds/1200 ft.

• 1130 is the distance sound travels in one second. Here it is stated as an assumed bullet average velocity over 400 yds/1200 ft.

• 0.000 is the time difference between a bullet traveling the speed of sound over 1200 ft and sound traveling 1200 feet.

Row 2 = spreadsheet formulas

• Column 1 = 1200 / column 2 (distance / bullet avg velocity) bullet travel time for 1200 ft.

• Column 2 = Row 1, Col 1 + 100 (stepping the assumed bullet velocity by 100 fps).

• Column 3 = 1.061947 - Row 2, Col 1 (time of sound @1200 ft - time of bullet travel) = time diff between time of sound and time of bullet at 1200 ft.

The formulas for Row 2 are dragged down to generate Rows 3-30.

Bullet time (s), Bullet average velocity (FPS), time difference to sound at 1,200 feet (s)