Niburu/Planet X kooks.

Never heard of either of them. Just clicking on youtube videos and seeing what is out there.

Just because I post this doesn't mean I believe it.

Just checking out both sides.

You didn't have time to watch the video yet.

I've watched the video it's recycled from enough.

Again. The sound of the "weapons fire" he's attributing to the "shooter" is the local crack of the bullets as they impact and/or pass by.

There are two sets of audio events to listen for:

* the firecracker-like sound of the bullets. * the lower pitched muzzle report.

Count the number of events and observe the patterns.

Why the silly meaningless image?

"Planet X / Nibburu"

https://www.google.com/search? source=hp&q=Planet+X+%2F+Nibburu

Not a credible source.

Not a credible source

Perhaps you are correct. I've never heard of them.

There is a video they have and it has some interesting shots.

Care to comment or you just going to call me conspiracy theorist?

No matter either way.

I think one person did so far.

10:54 is interesting.

These Niburu/Planet X people are kooks and frauds.

You can't assume they are honest or that they haven't manipulated the audio or video. They're complete liars about everything.

And they've taken time out from their usual kooking about Niburu and Planet X and used their expertise to produce just one Vegas shooting video, the one you posted.

They're kooks. It's a kookarama. They live to kook. They are trying to branch out from kooking about Niburu/Planet X into kooking about the Vegas massacre. But it is still just kookery. Because they are raging kooks.

This video doesn't really rate its own thread, though I do like VxH's Klingon bird of prey.

He's focusing on the sound of the bullets - claiming the shots are local.

Completely ignores the associated pattern of report that follows the bullet pattern.

The report is sub-sonic. The bullets are traveling faster than the speed of sound. That's why there are TWO distinct and separate groups of sound events associated with the same shots.

Or did you watch it?

What he's claiming doesn't match the audio.

He's focusing on the sound of the bullets - claiming the shots are local.

Nothing about sound. Video and flashes in the crowd.

You gotta admit even if it is kooky. It kind of looks like they are shooting.

They're kooks. I don't pay attention to kooks. Not my job.

call me conspiracy theorist?

Nah. It's easy for someone to think they hear something (and be misled) when they don't understand the acoustics.

Especially when the Niburu cultists / grifters start injecting their click- bait input.

Nothing about sound.

Uhuh.

And understanding the the audio is critical to understanding what's being presented.

Nah. It's easy for someone to think they hear something (and be misled) when they don't understand the acoustics.

"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which can not fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-that principle is contempt prior to investigation." --HERBERT SPENCER

I understood the audio then, and it hasn't changed.

The guy wants you to believe the "shooter" made sounds that

A: were not local gunfire.
B: are associated with the pattern of reports that is coming from the hotel.

Eventually somebody will compile a timeline with links to every burst of gunfire. I believe the evidence will all point back to those two windows. Haven't seen any evidence to the contrary yet.

Where were was the taxi driver specifically at the first five burst fired.

Show me where you checked the information. How did you find out where the taxi driver was?

Then also since you are so smart. Do your echo test from where this video was shot.

You are to lazy to dispute anything in this video. Even if you are right.

So you are probably to busy or lazy to do what I asked. I seriously doubt you did your own research.

There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which can not fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-that principle is contempt prior to investigation listening to a pack of goddamned kooks." --Tooconservative

plagiarized.

Also for someone who talks about everything posted. It is funny you can't debunk an image in a video. That is unlike you TC.

How did you find out where the taxi driver was?

I watched the Cab-driver video. Then I used google earth to view the 3d image of the hotel and surrounding area.

You are to lazy to dispute anything in this video.

I've already disputed it.

You're too lazy to go do the research to learn and understand what you're hearing.

Then I used google earth to view the 3d image of the hotel and surrounding area.

Google Earth and Google Maps Street View were both helpful.

I've already disputed it.

Then you should both email me your results privately. I want to see if they are the same.

Oh you can't.

Ok post what you found and describe it please.

Why can't you do that?

[VxH #10] "Planet X / Nibburu"

https://www.google.com/search? source=hp&q=Planet+X+%2F+Nibburu

Not a credible source.

Says the person with the image from the credible source, pbase and Klingons.

https://a4.pbase.com/o10/92/33392/1/166356364.c4kuLP7o.Klingons.jpg

Why is pbase and Klingons more credible than Youtube?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNPrR9pP51E

Las Vegas Cover Up: Video Shows 3 Extra Missing Windows On West Side of Mandalay Bay Hotel

Qronos16
Published on Oct 8, 2017

Antifa Literature Video footage of the Mandalay Bay’s exterior captured the morning after the massacre proves that three windows on the west face of the building were knocked out in addition to the two windows the media reported to be broken in the shooter’s suite and the adjacent room.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QO_wq9dv8Gc

Mandalay Bay Casino: New Images and Questions *GRAPHIC*

Headlines With A Voice
Published on Oct 3, 2017

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Says the person with the image from the credible source, pbase and Klingons.

I demand that you seriously consider that this was a Klingon massacre. I read somewhere that they may have conspired with some Lutherans.

You could fake that video and the windows without a lot of software in a half hour or so.

Take a look at the Qronos16 YouTube channel. It's stuffed full of every kind of kookery that you can name. Menacing asteroids, insidious solar storm, sinister earthquakery, false flaggotry, End Times babbling, Fukushima coverage. Oh, yeah, and highly professional coverage of the Vegas massacre.

Do you seriously expect anyone to credit anything to a YouTube channel of such odious and hackneyed kookery?

YouTube is not a repository of knowledge. It's the Wikipedia of video. And, no, adding 4 billion nutjobs to the internet does not necessarily create more knowledge. A lot of it is just wrong and stupid. Or lures to try to get clicks out of gullible people. People can make significant money doing this.

This is bottom-feeding on YouTube, all in the wake of a human tragedy. So, yes, the loons and kooks are out in full force.

Why don't you know that?

Another copy of the same video - claiming to be

[Original footage of las vegas shooting 50 filled 200 injured]

https://www.youtube.com/embed/kcjYefWRsKU? version=1&showinfo=0

Doubful that it's "original" - but anyhow observe the sustained burst in question, between:

https://youtu.be/kcjYefWRsKU?t=8 and
https://youtu.be/kcjYefWRsKU?t=22

There isn't any discernible echo.   Probably because this is the aiming point and not the origination point.

Here's what I see between the last bullet sound and the last report:

Where T1 is the last bullet sound and T2 is the last report sound.

1.07 seconds between T1 and T2 = 1208 ft. 

1208 ft from the Mandalay Bay, per Google earth, puts us right about where the video is being taken.

It's difficult to count the number of bullet events because they are in close synchronization with the report events - but I count somewhere between 80 - 95; making this probably one of the longer events I counted in the cab- driver videos - 94 rounds, which I suspect is from a 100 round drum magazine.

Do we see a belt fed weapon or a drum in the "PLANET X INVESTIGATIONS" video?  Nope. 

More evidence the Niburutards are FOS, as usual. 

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Distribution:

A K A Stone,Tooconservative,nolu chan, buckeroo,KlingonAmbassador

That three-missing-windows video is total crap. It could easily be faked.

Youtube is not exactly a reliable source. It may be useful for discussion and consideration.

Doubful that it's "original" - but anyhow observe the sustained burst in question, between:

It it is on Youtube, it is NOT the original, nor a bit for bit copy of the original.

Where were was the taxi driver specifically at the first five burst fired.

Show me where you checked the information. How did you find out where the taxi driver was?

This video I posted to the other thread gives a very good idea of where the taxi was and when. He identifies specific Mandalay Bay landmarks in the taxi driver video.

https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=53000&Disp=42#C42

nor a bit for bit copy of the original.

Yeah I see/acknowledge what you're talking about regarding generation loss now -- Compression artifacts introduced by rendering from a compressed source.

It may be useful for discussion and consideration.

It's useful to discuss videos that may be fakes amid a stream of other contradictory videos?

I don't think so.

There isn't any discernible echo.   Probably because this is the aiming point and not the origination point.

Here's what I see between the last bullet sound and the last report:

 

T1	T2	Elapsed Time	Total Distance
17.69	18.76	1.07	1208.80ft

 

Where T1 is the last bullet sound and T2 is the last report sound.

1.07 seconds between T1 and T2 = 1208 ft. 

1208 ft from the Mandalay Bay, per Google earth, puts us right about where the video is being taken.

What do you mean by the last bullet? It that the time of the sound as recorded on that video, or what is it?

Is T1 a gunshot and T2 an echo.

What do you mean by report, if not an echo?

And just how did you calculate such a remarkable result for distance?

Don't tell me. 1,125 feet per second (the speed of sound) x 1.07 = 1,203.75 and you rounded it off to 1,208 feet. Forget the rounding. Why does that measure the distance from the video taker to the shooter?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_of_sound

In dry air at 0 °C (32 °F), the speed of sound is 331.2 metres per second (1,087 ft/s; 1,192 km/h; 741 mph; 644 kn). At 20 °C (68 °F), the speed of sound is 343 metres per second (1,125 ft/s; 1,235 km/h; 767 mph; 667 kn), or a kilometre in 2.91 s or a mile in 4.69 s.

It may be useful for discussion and consideration.

It's useful to discuss videos that may be fakes amid a stream of other contradictory videos?

It [Youtube] may be useful for discussion and consideration to determine whether some content about something or other is worth considering and researching.

In the same way, reddit and 4chan cannot be taken at face value.

In a thread full of unreliable videos, it may be useful to point out that contrary videos can be produced from Youtube. However, the one video I posted appears useful to get the geography and locate where the taxi driver was relative to the 32nd floor windows and in trying to figure out what area of the hotel is depicted in certain portions of her video. Whether one chooses to believe the flashes are muzzle shots or something else, they are not coming from the 32nd floor. There is a certain usefulness to that video.

Youtube may be useful or entertaining. As proof of things, it is unreliable.

>>What do you mean by report, if not an echo?

As any Boy Scout with one of these...

...should know:

https://duckduckgo.com/? q=An+explosive+noise%3A+the+report+of+a+rifle

>>And just how did you calculate such a remarkable result for distance? { blah blah blah wikispew}

I used the same speed I used in my other analysis (appended below) - based upon an air temperature of 72 degrees

Then I calculated the difference in time between the last bullet sound (T1) and the corresponding last report sound (T2).

T2-T1 = time the  report traveled = 1.07

1.07 * FPS of 1130.8 = 1208.8

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An analysis of two sequential burts of gunfire between: 
["Taxi Driver Video" the Zapruder Film of the Las Vegas shooting UNCUT / UNEDITED]
https://www.youtube.com/watch ?v=mBbOFwWquAw&feature=youtu.be&t=1m7s
and
https://www.youtube.com/watc h?v=mBbOFwWquAw&feature=youtu.be&t=1m24s
===============  
T1: Time from start of video (1minute N seconds) at the time of the last shot in the burst.
T2: Time from the start of the video (1minute N seconds) at the time of the echoed sound event corresponding to T1. 
TempF: the air temperature (72 degrees F) 
FPS:   1130 ft per second -- The speed of sound at 72 degrees F
Elapsed Time:  T2 minus T1, the number of seconds between the last shot, and the echo of the last shot in each burst. 
Total Distance:  Elapsed Time * FPS = the total distance traveled between T1 and T2.
Echo Distance  = The distance the echo traveled from the aiming point back to the point of origin.
===============

Conclusion:  Burst B is NOT two weapons being fired simultaneously.  It is one weapon being fired at a more distant target.  The longer distance, observable in the period between Burst B's T1 and T2, manifests a corresponding longer period of reverb.  It is the reverb that is being incorrectly interpreted as a second weapon (and second shooter) firing at the same time.

Research resources:
https://www.google.co m/search?biw=1544&bih=856&q=Forensic+Acoustics+gunfire
http://www.physic sclassroom.com/mmedia/waves/er.cfm
https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/usa/las- vegas/historic
http://www.csgnetwork.c om/soundspeedcalc.html

However, the one video I posted appears useful to get the geography and locate where the taxi driver was relative to the 32nd floor windows and in trying to figure out what area of the hotel is depicted in certain portions of her video. Whether one chooses to believe the flashes are muzzle shots or something else, they are not coming from the 32nd floor. There is a certain usefulness to that video.

Unless it is fake.

How do you know that that is the original video? I haven't found an original source of it.

Conclusion: Burst B is NOT two weapons being fired simultaneously. It is one weapon being fired at a more distant target. The longer distance, observable in the period between Burst B's T1 and T2, manifests a corresponding longer period of reverb. It is the reverb that is being incorrectly interpreted as a second weapon (and second shooter) firing at the same time.

At some point fairly early in the attack, he must have shot at the aviation fuel tanks. I haven't heard any reporting on that other than that a couple of bullets hit one tank and one bullet did penetrate the tank but caused no explosion (which happens mostly in movies).

That is a nice set of links you've curated. I'm not sure if anyone will examine them. So much easier to go click up another kook video off YouTube than to do any serious science reading.

17.689655 18.758621 1.068966 1208.80

Hmmm.

Actually that's not quite the correct calculation required here.

I'm making an error by treating the T1 as the firing time.

Need to update that to incorporate the muzzle velocity....

At some point fairly early in the attack, he must have shot at the aviation fuel tanks.

There is a video (somewhere in the haystack now) that has audio of what sounds like several single hp rifle cracks at the start of the shooting - presumably at the fuel tanks.

Unless it is fake.

lol.

If we have tons of contradictory YouTube videos based on this taxi driver video (and none of them prepared from the original video), then most of them must be wrong or scammers trying to draw clicks.

The best you can say is that the ones you are posting are somehow better than the others. And you can't offer any evidence that they were not faked or that they were prepared using authentic undoctored footage.

You're reaching into the YouTube jar and trying to draw out a winner almost at random, mostly based on how clickbaitish their titles are. Maybe there are no winners in the YouTube raffle; maybe all it has are the consolation prizes for dummies.

Laugh all you want.

If we have tons of contradictory YouTube videos

The taxi video was there right from the start.

You think she was in on it?

And you can't offer any evidence that they were not faked

You want me to prove a negative?

You can't prove they are fake. Someone on the internet will if they are fake.

The taxi video has been there right from the start. The video chan posted lines up with it.

They are not fake and you know it.

The taxi video was there right from the start.

Right where? Where are you saying she posted the original video? Where is it? Either you can point me to it or you're just making crap up because you want to believe it or you just don't want to admit to being taken in like a rube with inauthentic video footage.

Among the earliest postings of it seems to be video distributed by Las Vegas Journal-Review. I think the taxi driver sold it to them but I can't confirm that. However, LVJR did not initially distribute the entire video but offered cut-down versions that were edited.

We have no idea whether we have ever seen the original video as she recorded it. We don't even know what brand and model her phone was or what resolution the video was.

They are not fake and you know it.

I know no such thing. And neither do you.

And you're just blustering now because you finally realize you've been had by these YouTube scammers like the Niburu/Planet X cultists.

We have no idea whether we have ever seen the original video as she recorded it.

This was the earliest version I saw:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNiRr763gJA&t=3s

Unfortunately no longer available.

Youtube may be useful or entertaining. As proof of things, it is unreliable.

Youtube is just a tool. 

How reliable or useful it is for discerning the truth is relative to the integrity of the individuals and organizations using it.

Certainly not any less reliable than the arrogant, self- serving, propaganda-parrots perched atop their "Newseum"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N ewseum