And since these people live in Seattle themselves and are radical anti-homosexuals,you would THINK they were aware THAT particular coffee shop was owned and operated by a homosexual.

They were near the coffee shop, handing out pamphlets that specifically targeted gays on the issue of abortion.

I kinda thought that this must have been a predominantly gay neighborhood and that they knew that or they wouldn't have handed out those particular pamphlets.

Yes you never once complained that there are segregated showers at public schools.

In Germany, it is pretty routine to have coed showers in the public schools. I'm not sure if that is universal or not but I've seen it reported as common and Germans don't give it a second thought. They're very casual about nudity in Germany, in much the same way as the Scandinavians are.

Caytie Davis and her fellows had been handing out pro-life pamphlets that targeted the homosexual community for the spread of the Gospel.

Wow! A three-fer. They should have added a pro-gun message, too.

In Germany, it is pretty routine to have coed showers in the public schools.

And they practice cannibalism in Papua New Guinea. Now, I'm not real sure what you're suggesting by your post, but be aware I'm ready to counter.

Now, I'm not real sure what you're suggesting by your post, but be aware I'm ready to counter.

I'd better head for the hills. LOL

You couldn't help yourself. Bye.

Are you banning people this early in the day?

You only have about 15-20 regulars, less than that of irregular posters.

Yesterday, you had 137 posts here at LF by my count. 11 by me, 13 by you, 8 by sneakypete, 21 by nolu, and so on.

Of course, post counts go way or down for any given poster, depending on how busy they are, what's in the news, etc.

Just cancel your sneaky ban. I'm pretty sure he doesn't hang out here just to try to someday get to feel up your buttocks. This banning stuff is one of the more destructive things you do this forum.

Are you [A K A Stone] banning people this early in the day?

He does anything he wants. It is not limited to "early" ... but by Sunday, he will will bring 'em all back into the fold!

They were near the coffee shop, handing out pamphlets that specifically targeted gays on the issue of abortion.

I don't see the relevance. They weren't handing them out in the coffee shop. They were thrown out of the coffee shop solely based on who they were.

Flip it around. Gays are near a straight cofee shop handing out NAMBLA literature. You take it from there.

This banning stuff is one of the more destructive things you do this forum.

Yeah. I miss Roscoe.

I don't see the relevance. They weren't handing them out in the coffee shop. They were thrown out of the coffee shop solely based on who they were.

I was only saying that this was likely a gay neighborhood since they were targeting a gay audience for their pro-life literature.

You wouldn't go hand out such literature out in the suburbs where maybe 1:1000 people are gay. You'd go to a neighborhood known for gayness, where you might get 20%-30% gay people walking down the street to give your gay pro-life pamphlets to.

So I think this was a gay-owned coffee shop in a neighborhood that is known for being a gay ghetto place with large numbers of gays or even a majority of gays living there.

Yeah. I miss Roscoe.

You would.

since they were targeting a gay audience for their pro-life literature.

Why? High rate of abortion among homosexuals?

Even if they knew the coffee shop owner was gay I don't see how it would make a diference. Does he throw out everyone he doesn't like?

Why? High rate of abortion among homosexuals?

I base my remark on the article: "Caytie Davis and her fellows had been handing out pro-life pamphlets that targeted the homosexual community for the spread of the Gospel."

Oops, I forgot. It's against the rules to actually read an article here at LF.

Caytie Davis and her fellows had been handing out pro-life pamphlets that targeted the homosexual community

Why would faggots care one way or the other about abortion?

High rate of abortion among homosexuals?

I want to call you phuckng, "STUPID." It won't be the last tyme.

I base my remark on the article: "Caytie Davis and her fellows had been handing out pro-life pamphlets that targeted the homosexual community for the spread of the Gospel."

So you're saying the coffee shop owner kicked them out solely because they were pro-life?

I want to call you phuckng, "STUPID."

Yes, yes. I know.

Why would faggots care one way or the other about abortion?

I have no idea. I get the impression that they made a pro-life argument to try to get Teh Gays to get saved and abandon sodomy.

The articles about this story do give links so you can go see the actual pamphlet they distributed. I just wasn't that interested.

So you're saying the coffee shop owner kicked them out solely because they were pro-life?

I said nothing of the sort. I suspect he was kicking them out for trying to convert Teh Gays from sodomy to Christianity but I haven't read their literature and don't care that much.

As a Christian I don't want to be served by openly gay persons, If they don't agree with my beliefs I am perfectly happy to be served by someone who respects my beliefs so what I suggest is, just as it was back in the day, these poofters display a sign saying Christians not served here. They won't do that because they are too cowardly, knowing they cannot discriminate openly

I believe the running argument here is if a shop owner wants to refuse service it should be within their rights to do so. However, we know doing such based on race or skin color would evoke a civil rights case.

The question is does this anti-discrimination protection extend to sexual preferences and religious affiliation. In the US the 1st Amendment protects the free exercise of religion. For example, if the coffee shop saw Christians saying grace before eating and drinking, throwing them out would be doing so for their free exercise.

What we are eventually going to get to here in the States is some shop owners refusing service to people not sharing their own political or social worldview. Which I don't believe one can sue the shop owners.

This is a very aggressive pro-life group, they refer to themselves as abolitionists. You can see their flagship site AbolishHumanAbortion.com.

For example, if the coffee shop saw Christians saying grace before eating and drinking, throwing them out would be doing so for their free exercise.

They had already been served and gone upstairs to a reading room before the owner, probably tipped off by some busybody, found out what kind of literature they handed out and came up to demand that they leave.

If he served them, I'm not sure how you would sue him. He provided the beverages and bakery-made goods (if any) that he had on display. I'm not sure that public accommodation includes a right to be seated if other customers are claiming that you upset them.

I suspect he was kicking them out for trying to convert Teh Gays from sodomy to Christianity

Something along those lines -- but not in the coffee shop which, again, is the key point.

I'm not sure that public accommodation includes a right to be seated if other customers are claiming that you upset them.

Good point! I think they used that loophole in the 50's when blacks demanded a seat at the counter -- "No can do. It'll upset the whites."

Something along those lines -- but not in the coffee shop which, again, is the key point.

True enough. No one has alleged they were proselytizing in the coffee joint.

They might have been wearing their abolitionist T-shirts or had other abolitionist gear. Some of the abolitionist T-shirts are pretty graphic stuff with aborted babies all chopped up and such. There are a lot of restaurants that would not want you to wear that kind of stomach-churning stuff in their business.

Looking at the pamphlet, it seems they were trying to convert gays to pro-life, not to get them to dump their sodomy lifestyles and become Christians.

This is a very aggressive pro-life group, they refer to themselves as abolitionists.

I think you agree that if that was their sole message they're in the wrong neighborhood.

Or maybe you believe those fundies just happened to find a coffee shop owned by a homo IN SEATTLE by accident,because there are so many of them and so few owned and operated by heterosexuals or people who keep their sexual orientation to themselves?

When was the last time you were in Seattle? It's the second largest gay haven next to San Francisco.

I think they used that loophole in the 50's when blacks demanded a seat at the counter -- "No can do. It'll upset the whites."

If they were wearing graphic bloody T-shirts, that is very different from refusing to seat someone because of their skin color.

And you forget: these abolitionists were served their orders.

In Selma and Birmingham, they were not allowed to sit or to be served, per state law.

Not the same. And I'm not going to spend the day explaining why. Because this is kind of a dumbass thread to begin with.

To: sneakypete (#12)

I think Stone banned him again. He hasn't surfaced over at 4um yet though he reads and posts over there too on pretty much a daily basis.

Maybe he's busy with his new tractor. I was hoping he'd tell us how he likes it.

Why would faggots care one way or the other about abortion?

I have no idea.

Well, I do.

They all support everything anti-Christian, anti-socialist, anti-white people and have been taught to behave that way. They are indoctrinated idiots.

Frankly I have seen no seen no evidence that this Christian group behaved in any way other than what they said.

I think you agree that if that was their sole message they're in the wrong neighborhood.

You should find out more about these abolitionists. They are small but very aggressive.

Not like the Westboro church bunch but a lot more aggressive than your run-of-the-mill pro-lifers.

"phucking stupid."

You voted for TRUMP? You are a phreaking phucking stupid retard, incapable of realizing your voter responsibilities.

Frankly I have seen no seen no evidence that this Christian group behaved in any way other than what they said.

I didn't say that they did.

If they were wearing graphic bloody T-shirts, that is very different from refusing to seat someone because of their skin color.

Yeah. Or if they brought with them actual aborted fetuses.

Then again, the article mentioned neither. So maybe we can put the speculation behind us.

You voted for TRUMP? You are a phreaking phucking stupid retard, incapable of realizing your voter responsibilities.

Sorry that Mrs. Bill Clinton thing didn't come through for you.

Maybe next time, comrade.

You've mistaken me for someone who actually gives a shit about this non-story.

He said in post #61.

I don't want to call you "phucking stupid." but it seems like you missed his point.

misterwhite (#33) Yeah. I miss Roscoe.

You would. Tooconservative

Roscoe was such an obvious White clone/idiot, that most here miss him, as a whipping boy.

Free Roscoe!

Does he throw out everyone he doesn't like?

Stone does. It's legal to be a authoritarian ahole in the USA. Lucky for you!

If you own the place, you can pitch out whomever you want, and you don't have to bake them gay wedding cakes or whatever.

Presumably Stone would ban Donny Trump for promoting the gay agenda.

Maybe he doesn't want to come back because he thinks I'm an asshole. I think that is it.

Most people on this chit-chat forum know and understand that you are an asshole. So, you haven't added to our collective knowledge.

I was wondering why so many said Red State embellished and added. The video is quite clear he threw them out. And used all that gay nasty language.

I was wondering why so many said Red State embellished and added.

The Christians never said that they went there to "relax", that was added at Redstate. Why are there no quote marks around the relax shuck 'n jive?

Because they never said any such thing.

There are several quotes from the Christians as well as the video, but nothing about them going there to relax.

If you own the place, you can pitch out whomever you want

Not if you run a public accomodation, such as a place that serves food.

http://civilrights.findlaw.com/civil-rights-overview/public-accommodations-equal-rights.html

Public Accommodations at the Federal Level

Through the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), the federal government prohibits discrimination in public accommodations on the basis of the following: race, color, religion, national origin, and disability. The federal government does not prohibit discrimination on the basis of age, sex, sexual orientation, or gender identity. However, numerous states protect against age, sex, sexual orientation, and gender identity discrimination.