What does that mean?

I have to wonder why so many strobes are flashing on Youtube videos in different places.

Flashes without broken / open windows are just flashes.

videos have produced similar flashes

Maybe the fire alarm went off?

I've worked in building that had strobes as part of the fire alarm.

you're jumping to conclusions.

No, I'm rendering an opinion regarding the audio in the Taxi Driver video from 1:07 through 1:24

That audio has been misrepresented as proof of two shooters. I have provided a reasonable explanation why that interpretation is incorrect.

If you have evidence to the contrary, share it.

The "muzzle flash"/strobe you reference at 5:00 continues flashing after the sound of gunfire stops.

What does that mean?

It means you have a vivid imagination or a third or fourth generation tape.

Maybe the fire alarm went off?

I've worked in building that had strobes as part of the fire alarm.

And nobody reported hearing them and no fire trucks came.

It means you have a vivid imagination or a third or fourth generation tape.

It surprises me that people are taking these various videos at face value.

We know there are plenty of pranksters out there. We know that 4chan/Anonymous and some Reddit groups just love to prank the public.

We have no way to know whether these are authentic and undoctored recordings.

I don't know but a factor/possibility to keep in mind.

Flashes without broken / open windows are just flashes.

Word salads with no evidence of gunshots are just boring.

Here. I will show you the 32nd floor windows at the time of the bursts of firing. Don Lemon to the rescue. Show me the muzzle flashes on the 32nd floor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUQR66vrrJo

Breaking News: New Video of concertgoers running for their lives. [CNN]

Almutaz Bur News Network
Published on Oct 4, 2017

At about the 0m:40s mark, the bursts begin. While CNN concentrates on people running, try concentrating on the 32nd floor windows clearly in the picture. Try to find a muzzle flash from the 32nd floor. It is at that near end of the building.

Where are they Mr. Fung?

Here is a CNN link: http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2017/10/05/las-vegas-mass-shooting-concertgoers-running-vo-ctn.cnn

I don't know but a factor/possibility to keep in mind

Interesting possibility, but I posted the 18 minute version of the video at #4 and it is one continuous shot. If the camera was moving all about, it should be noticeable. As she is driving a taxi during the bursts, it is more likely in a hands free holder.

It surprises me that people are taking these various videos at face value.

We know there are plenty of pranksters out there. We know that 4chan/Anonymous and some Reddit groups just love to prank the public.

How about NBC?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8B366HiHPs&feature=youtu.be

NBC Hyper Edits Video From Vegas Shooting

The Red Elephants
Published on Oct 6, 2017

So I expect we'll have a lot of fake videos and CT mongering about this case.

It means you have a vivid imagination or a third or fourth generation tape.

The principle of "generations" doesn't apply to reproduction of digital video super genius.

"EMERGENCY ANNOUNCEMENTS
When the alarm system is activated, horns will sound, flashers will be visible throughout the area and a series of emergency announcements will be played over the public address system. As indicated above, evacuation is not automatic."
https://www.delanolasvegas.com/content/dam/MGM/mandalay- bay/meetings/documents/mandalay-bay-meetings-convention-mbcc-fire- prevention-emergency-evacuation-info-sheet-revised-8-11.pdf
 

flashers will be visible throughout the area

Doesn't matter.  You'll just move on to inventing invisible gunmen on ledges:

"There is a great big ledge. It's yuge. And nobody builds a ledge with no way to access it. "

--Nolu chan

https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi? ArtNum=53000&Disp=42#C42

 

Hey - maybe Paddock was executed by a Klingon sniper from a cloaked bird of prey hovering outside his hotel room?

2. Paddock shot for 10 minutes. He had lots of rifles and lots and lots of ammo. And then he just stopped shooting.

Simple explanation:

He ran out of ammo.

Oops!

Now about that Klingon bird of prey - Were there any related flashes or spatial distortions visible in the cab driver video?

The echo time differences would only indicate the shots were from different vantage points aimed in different directions. It would say nothing of the number of shooters, one or two.

Actually it says quite a bit if you bother to examine what was actually recorded in audio where it *sounds like* two weapons are firing simultaneously.

What's the difference between Reverb and Echo?

The principle of "generations" doesn't apply to reproduction of digital video super genius.

It doesn't apply nearly as much but it is still there.

Doesn't matter. You'll just move on to inventing invisible gunmen on ledges:

I'm liking this idea.

Now about that Klingon bird of prey - Were there any related flashes or spatial distortions visible in the cab driver video?

Klingons would explain a lot.

You should start your own YouBoob channel to share these insights with the world.

It doesn't apply nearly as much but it is still there.

"Used correctly, digital technology can eliminate generation loss."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_loss

"Used correctly, digital technology can eliminate generation loss."

Only if you use all-original tracks.

If people are downloading and doctoring their own digital files, you will have generational loss due to compression artifacting. The same thing happens each time you edit a JPG picture.

If you edit in lossless files, you won't have generational loss. But most people don't do that outside a studio setup.

Meanwhile - the audio data says what it says: ONE shooter.

Why aren't the alleged "multiple shooters" firing at the same time - are they being polite and taking turns?

Admit it. -- At this point, you're jumping to conclusions.----- we all need to know a hell of a lot more about everything this creep was doing in the past.

No, I'm rendering an opinion --- If you have evidence to the contrary, share it.

Well, you must realize that your opinions can be viewed as conclusions, arrived at before all the evidence is in.

Evidence is being gathered, lets hope it'll be shared.

Meanwhile - the audio data says what it says: ONE shooter.

I'd still like to see an analysis from the FBI audio labs of all the videos and their sound tracks. The FBI has had considerable audio expertise for decades.

I am in the lone gunman camp too. I keep waiting for the CT fans to find a grassy knoll in Vegas where a second shooter hid.

What's your conclusion regarding the 17 seconds between:
https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=mBbOFwWquAw&t=67s
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=mBbOFwWquAw&t=84s

?

What's your conclusion regarding the 17 seconds between:

I think that the taxi driver was having loud noisy farts from eating some spicy tacos earlier in the day.

That is my personal theory.

I'd still like to see an analysis from the FBI audio labs of all the videos and their sound tracks.

Yeah me too.

A time line with links to the associated video/audio should be relatively easy to produce - especially given that most (if not all) cell phones update their time automatically - and the associated video will be timestamped accordingly.

But don't hold your breath for the F.B.I. to produce it, or anything of value...

What's your conclusion regarding the 17 seconds between ------

I leave conclusions about such technology to experts. Do you style yourself as one?

If so, I'll consider your opinion, while I await others. Fair enough?

A time line with links to the associated video/audio should be relatively easy to produce - especially given that most (if not all) cell phones update their time automatically - and the associated video will be timestamped accordingly.

Not only that, but in a crowd of 22 thousand at the concert, you would expect hundreds (certainly) or thousands (probably) to be holding up smartphones to record it. The videos could be synced to the action on stage and you could rather easily derive a proximate location in the crowd from which it was recorded.

So I think there may be some "rich" A/V/location data to be gleaned and sifted. I can only assume the FBI is doing that but we have no reporting on it.

I keep waiting for the CT fans to find a grassy knoll in Vegas where a second shooter hid.

How hard is it to convince a culture of individuals who've been indoctrinated to believe they can change their gender... of, well, anything?

I leave conclusions about such technology to experts.

Uhuh. The same "experts" reviewing Hillary's emails.

Breath, Holding... NOT.

I leave conclusions about such technology to experts.

Your last two posts are not an answer, so we're done. -- Feel free to babble on.

Wile E. Paine - Consteeetutional "expert" Super Genius fails again.

Funny how you can't seem to render an opinion when actual facts are involved.

Funny how you can't seem to admit you're not an expert about the 'actual facts' (if they are facts) you've posted..

I know I'm not such an expert.

It's simple science and math.

I know I'm not such an expert.

"EDUCATE THE COMMON PEOPLE, THIS IT IS THE BUSINESS OF THE STATE TO EFFECT AND ON A GENERAL PLAN" --Thomas Jefferson

Gee, I don't get the impression Ol' Tom expected folks to sit with their head up their wherever waiting for an "expert" to explain things.

Your "conservative" milage may vary.

CBS:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNPrR9pP51E

Las Vegas Cover Up: Video Shows 3 Extra Missing Windows On West Side of Mandalay Bay Hotel

Qronos16
Published on Oct 8, 2017

Antifa Literature Video footage of the Mandalay Bay’s exterior captured the morning after the massacre proves that three windows on the west face of the building were knocked out in addition to the two windows the media reported to be broken in the shooter’s suite and the adjacent room.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QO_wq9dv8Gc

Mandalay Bay Casino: New Images and Questions *GRAPHIC*

Headlines With A Voice
Published on Oct 3, 2017

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What's the difference between Reverb and Echo?

If you must know, echo is a return of the same sound after it has bounced off a distant object.

Reverb is created electronically to mimic echo, but it originates from the same speakers being used as your source.

Las Vegas Cover Up: Video Shows 3 Extra Missing Windows On West Side of Mandalay Bay Hotel

That was not a good video. Do you have a better video or some live footage that shows it?

Reverb is created electronically to mimic echo,

Bzzzt.

www.physicsclassroo m.com/mmedia/waves/er.cfm

[nc #47] It means you have a vivid imagination or a third or fourth generation tape.

[Vxh #55] The principle of "generations" doesn't apply to reproduction of digital video super genius.

It does when the people creating the different versions are of unknown identity or motivation or reliability. The later generations are of unknown veracity. Copying is not 100% acurate, and compression may be used for Youtube posting.

The super genius who presents your audio analysis identifies his masterpiece as being second generation. What was on the taxi driver's phone or whatever is the first generation. Unless he made his copy directly from her, he cannot produce a second generation. Assuming the Youtube video came directly from the taxi driver's phone, it would be second generation. Unless your super genius was using the taxi driver's recording device as his source, he did not even have second generation.

Audio analysis presented at your #26:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CypkzhGr8FU

Flashes vs Sound Analysis of Cori Langdon's Mandalay Bay Taxi Video

From 0m34s to 0m46s, your super genius states,

"There is an indication of the first flash that we can see in the video. It can't be seen probably in this rendering because I am doing a second generation rendering...."

Your super genius says he did a second generation rendering, and as a result of his second generation rendition, he claims that the viewer cannot see the first flash.

As you claim generations are bullshit, please explain what your super genius is talking about.

What was on the taxi driver's phone or whatever is the first generation. Unless he made his copy directly from her, he cannot produce a second generation.

Even that has compression artifacts. Recording HD video in raw uncompressed (lossless) format takes vast amounts of storage. No smartphone can do it. Nor can any handheld cameras that are affordable to consumers.

So even first-gen smartphones and consumer camcorders have some inevitable compression artifacts. And it only gets worse as you edit and recompress the video.

[VxH #58] What's the difference between Reverb and Echo?

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[nc #83] If you must know, echo is a return of the same sound after it has bounced off a distant object.

Reverb is created electronically to mimic echo, but it originates from the same speakers being used as your source.

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[VxH #85] Bzzzt.

www.physicsclassroo m.com/mmedia/waves/er.cfm

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Bzzzt. Your anonymous internet source with the broken link is not indicative of a super genius response, but that of a pedestrian dullard.

In addition, the term you used was specifically reverb.

I do not get word definitions from an anonymous internet source unrelated to English usage. Anonymous Youtube word usage on the internet does not change actual meaning, nor does resort to a different word. I use a top notch expert source dictionary.

You explicitly used the term Reverb. You could have looked it up in a dictionary. Or you could DJ and you would learn the difference between reverb and echo.

Bzzzt. As you want to know the difference between reverb and echo, here follows the sourced expert lesson.

Reverb. n. an effect whereby the sound produced by an amplifier or an amplified musical instrument is made to reverberate slightly. · A device for producing such an effect.

Reverberate. v. [intrans.] (of a loud noise) to be repeated several times as an echo: her deep booming voice reverberated around the room. · (of a place) appear to vibrate or be disturbed because of a loud noise: the hall reverberated with gaiety and laughter. · [trans.] archaic return or reecho (a sound) ....

Archaic very old or old-fashioned. · (of a word or style in language) no longer in everyday use but sometimes used to impart old-fashioned flavor.

The New Oxford American Dictionary, Second Edition, Oxford University Press, New York, 2005.

Usage of reverberation to indicate return or echo is archaic. In currently accepted English usage, it may mean a loud noise repeated several times as an echo, her deep booming voice reverberated around the room.

So even first-gen smartphones and consumer camcorders have some inevitable compression artifacts. And it only gets worse as you edit and recompress the video.

Yes. All of that is correct.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ukY_Qy4TCQ

Fact checking VEGAS

LNT
Published on Oct 3, 2017

"There is an indication of the first flash that we can see in the video. It can't be seen probably in this rendering because I am doing a second generation rendering...."

His video is a screencap of him using the OpenShot video editor on a fairly modern Windows machine; this editor also runs on Linux and Macs. It takes a variety of video types as inputs (using the FFMpeg library to import them) including WebM (VP9), AVCHD (libx264), HEVC (libx265) and the usual MP3 and AAC audio types. OpenShot outputs to a variety of other formats (MPEG4, ogv, Blu-ray and DVD video, and Full HD videos).

I used DownloadHelper, a Firefox extension, to choose a version of the video to download. The choices were:

• 1280x720 - HD720 - MP4
• 480x360 - Medium - MP4
• 480x360 - Medium - WEBM
• 320x240 - Low - 3GPP
• 176x144 - Low - 3GPP

I grabbed the 720p H.264 version. Here are the video specs:

MPEG-4 (Base Media / Version 2): 17.5 MiB, 3mn 27s
1 Video stream: AVC
1 Audio stream: AAC
Overall bit rate mode: Variable
Overall bit rate: 707 Kbps
Encoded date: UTC 2017-10-06 02:46:55
Tagged date: UTC 2017-10-06 02:46:55
gsst: 0

The video is only 513Kbps, 1280*720 (16:9), at 30.000fps, AVC (High@L3.1)(CABAC/ 1 Ref Frames). The audio is 192Kbps, 44.1KHz, 2 channels, AAC (LC).

Since it is a screengrab, we are definitely seeing a shrunk version of what the supergenius saw on his screen. I find it odd that he didn't include a finished version so people could see it at full resolution. At any rate, with a 720p 513Kbps H.264 video stream, you're lucky if you can see anything at all. That is really low quality video, especially for a night scene.

We really don't know what the original footage from the taxi driver's phone was. So necessarily, a shrunken version shown in a screencapped video of an editor and compressed heavily by YouTube is not considered first-generation material. For that, you need a lossless format which no smartphones support. So any first-gen original video is going to be 720p or 1080p h.264 video, in all likelihood. And it would have been 4Mbps - 12Mbps video, not this puny 513Kbps crapfest that we're seeing from YouBoob.

I am suspicious though. He could have just played a pixel-per-pixel original video and pointed at it with his mouse. Why the shrunken version and screencapped that way? It makes no sense if you want to accurately convey the original footage.

He might also have applied some filters to try to make those flashes more visible. We just don't know.

However it is entirely fair to discuss how this video has been recorded originally and the various stages of scaling and compression we are seeing. The use of the term first-generation or second-generation cannot be construed in the same way as we applied those terms to tape. But the cumulative effect of scaling and recompressing and screencapping cannot be denied, whatever term you choose to use to describe this degradation.

the cumulative effect of scaling and recompressing and screencapping cannot be denied, whatever term you choose to use to describe this degradation

Correct. We are definitely not seeing the result of a bit for bit copying process. We are seeing the effects of multiple lossy processing.