Burst A (from the left window) Burst B (from the left window)

The Burst begining at 1:40 is, I believe, from the right window - after the murderer moved there.

The reverb section of burst B *sounds like* the burst from around the corner at 1:40.

I think that's what's being misinterpreted. It's reverb - not a second shooter at the far window.

Not a muzzle flash.

It's a strobe light identified as such by LEO -

https://youtu.be/UwD2pypWu-E? t=7m19s

Where on that video is it identified as a strobe light???

Your video at 1m05s reports "shots seen and recorded around the 4th or 5th floor."

At 1m:15s it reports, "I see shots coming from Mandalay Bay HALF WAY UP!!"

At 1m30s it reports, "We have an active shooter... we have an active shooter INSIDE THE FAIRGROUNDS!!"

At 2m48s it reports, "Control, be advised SHOTS ARE COMING FROM GATE 7...SHOTS ARE COMING FROM GATE 7!"

At 3m28s it reports, "we're seeing multiple flashes IN THE MIDDLE OF Mandalay Bay on the North side...kind of a...on the West tower but TOWARDS THE CENTER of the Casino...it's like one of the MIDDLE FLOORS"

At 4m:07s it reports, "a flashing coming up from about a THIRD OF THE WAY UP...CENTER TOWER Mandalay Bay...be advised!"

At 5m10s, someone ask if anyone has eyes on the shooter, and the response is, "...about the 15th floor on the Mandalay Bay...facing...um...the whole lot...

Where on that video is it identified as a strobe light???

7m 19s

"there is a, ah, strobe light coming from one of those windows"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwD2pypWu- E&feature=youtu.be&t=7m19s

And it was still flashing at 5:02 AM the next morning.

https://youtu.be/7RpvVwsodHE

The reverb section of burst B *sounds like* the burst from around the corner at 1:40.

I think that's what's being misinterpreted. It's reverb - not a second shooter at the far window.

These two bursts are audibly very, very different. I am specifically speaking of the bursts and not the echoes.

As shots were taken from more than one vantage point, the echo times of bursts may not be comparable. The echos may have returned from different objects at different distances. The echo time differences would only indicate the shots were from different vantage points aimed in different directions. It would say nothing of the number of shooters, one or two. It does not measure the distance of the shooter(s) to the same distant object.

They could do echo tests to see if both echo times can be duplicated from the 32nd floor vantage point to the taxi location.

These two bursts are audibly very, very different.

Yep. That's because the murderer moved to a different window.

The section of audio I focused on (1:07 to 1:24) contains a section where, in Burst B it *sounds* like ~both windows are being fired from at the same time.

The reverb in Burst B isn't a second shooter... it's just reverb - in a longer burst with a more distant aiming point.

And it was still flashing at 5:02 AM the next morning.

He referred to one of the two shot out windows on the 32nd floor. The taxi video did not show the 32nd floor and the flashes lasted the length of a gun burst.

7m25s "There is a strobe coming from one of those windows on the East side." The video provides a closeup of the 32nd floor windows.

Cori Langdon's ground level video is just about in the middle right over the entrance, not near the two 32nd floor windows on the East side.

7m 19s

"there is a, ah, strobe light coming from one of those windows"

Did you see the strobe light Deckard? Can we check at least one thing off your list of 16?

The windows don't open.

How many broken windows are there?

2... in one suite on the 32nd floor.

>>He referred to one of the two shot out windows on the 32nd floor.

The strobe... was still flashing at 5:02 AM the next morning, behind the reporte.

https://youtu.be/7RpvVwsodHE

Yep. That's because the murderer moved to a different window.

It could be. I hear two very different audible reports which indicate they came from different vantage points and perhaps came from different weapons.

They do not tell me that one person did, or did not, fire both.

from different vantage points

You mean like a different window - One of the TWO only open/broken windows in the hotel?

They do not tell me that one person did, or did not, fire both.

If there were two murderers, why wouldn't they both be firing at the same time?

There's no audio that I've seen/heard so far that demonstrates two weapons being fired at the same time.

The strobe... was still flashing at 5:02 AM the next morning, behind the reporte.

Hundreds of feet from the flashing above entrance caught on video by the taxi driver, and about 25 floors up. The flashing in the taxi video is unrelated to the 32nd floor or the East end of the building.

Cori Langdon's ground level video

Flash dismissed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CypkzhGr8FU

You mean like a different window - One of the TWO only open/broken windows in the hotel?

No, I mean stop the 18m video at #4 dead at 5m00s and describe what is in the picture. The taxi is moving at ground level, there is a guard rail there, there appears to be a support stanchion for a vehicle entranceway, and the flash came from right above the stanchion.

With or without broken windows, the flashes are there. The distraction about the 32nd floor does not make them go away, or move them to the 32nd floor. They occur remarkably at the same time as a very loud gun burst. And then they are gone, and they do not keep going.

I did not say the flashes came through a window at all. I can't see what is there. It is dark.

There is no way of knowing if the video is authentic, but the flashes are there.

Flash dismissed

Any specific reason why you seem so committed to the lone gunman theory?

This one will start at 4m58s. What are the flashes right over the stanchion?

How many broken windows are there - TWO.

I'm committed to the - "show me the evidence", theory.

That would be fine, if we'd seen all, or even most of the evidence.

Are you thinking we have?

>>but the flashes are there.

There?

Are you thinking we have?

The cab driver video is pretty good evidence to start with.

What does it say?

From what I've seen/heard: One murderer.

I'd like to know more about his "gambling"/laundery activities.

And we all need to know a hell of a lot more about everything this creep was doing in the past.

How many open/broken windows are there?

How many stanchions are in the picture? What does two windows broken on the 32nd floor prove about near ground level?

Admit it. -- At this point, you're jumping to conclusions.

Lots more conclusions than available evidence will support. About all I know for sure is that two windows are broken on the 32nd floor, lots of weapons were there, and a dead body was there when they entered the room about an hour after shooting ended.

There were lots of reports on the police radio of shots from other locations. There was at least one shooter. I have insufficient information to rule out more than one shooter.

There?

No. Directly over a stanchion as recorded at 5m00s in the taxi cell phone video.

Here:

About all I know for sure is that two windows are broken on the 32nd floor, lots of weapons were there, and a dead body was there when they entered the room about an hour after shooting ended.

I was a bit surprised about the (limited, granted) info the sheriff handed out the first couple of days. But then he started getting weird, and the remarks he made on his last day were bizarre, -- he actually seemed to be pleading with who, the public?, to help him with the investigation, as if maybe some Fed agencies were interfering...

That's the impression I got... You?

That's the impression I got... You?

Precisely.

I also have some problems with the unexplained narrative they are selling.

1. On the police radio, control was saying forget the wounded, we've got to get to and neutralize the shooter. They ran up to the 32nd floor and accessed the hallway a few feet from the room door. Then they took an hour to breach the door.

2. Paddock shot for 10 minutes. He had lots of rifles and lots and lots of ammo. And then he just stopped shooting. And then, at some time during the hour it took to breach the door, he shot himself.

prove about near ground level?

How many windows are broken near ground level?

Flash dismissed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CypkzhGr8FU

Your cited analysis dismissed with a vastly superior one.

This one also very clearly shows the geography of where the broken windows were, and where the taxi was.

It also shows something very interesting about the area from where the flashes were seen in the taxi video. A window did not have to be broken. There is a great big ledge. It's yuge. And nobody builds a ledge with no way to access it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbBEBzij1BE

Audio Analysis of Las Vegas Shooter - Doesn't add up.

90,616 views
Chris Fenwick
Published on Oct 4, 2017

I want to be clear, I'm not convinced that there are multiple shooters. However, what I will say is that the audio evidence from ONE PARKING PLACE, doesn't really add up in my opinion.

Indeed, since the taxi lady produced a video with flashing going on, videos have produced similar flashes, not in the same exact position, during the Big and Rich rendition of God Bless America, during a Fox News report [VxH #15], and up on the 32nd floor [VxH #15]. I have to wonder why so many strobes are flashing on Youtube videos in different places.

What does that mean?

I have to wonder why so many strobes are flashing on Youtube videos in different places.

Flashes without broken / open windows are just flashes.

videos have produced similar flashes

Maybe the fire alarm went off?

I've worked in building that had strobes as part of the fire alarm.

you're jumping to conclusions.

No, I'm rendering an opinion regarding the audio in the Taxi Driver video from 1:07 through 1:24

That audio has been misrepresented as proof of two shooters. I have provided a reasonable explanation why that interpretation is incorrect.

If you have evidence to the contrary, share it.

The "muzzle flash"/strobe you reference at 5:00 continues flashing after the sound of gunfire stops.

What does that mean?

It means you have a vivid imagination or a third or fourth generation tape.

Maybe the fire alarm went off?

I've worked in building that had strobes as part of the fire alarm.

And nobody reported hearing them and no fire trucks came.

It means you have a vivid imagination or a third or fourth generation tape.

It surprises me that people are taking these various videos at face value.

We know there are plenty of pranksters out there. We know that 4chan/Anonymous and some Reddit groups just love to prank the public.

We have no way to know whether these are authentic and undoctored recordings.

I don't know but a factor/possibility to keep in mind.

Flashes without broken / open windows are just flashes.

Word salads with no evidence of gunshots are just boring.

Here. I will show you the 32nd floor windows at the time of the bursts of firing. Don Lemon to the rescue. Show me the muzzle flashes on the 32nd floor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUQR66vrrJo

Breaking News: New Video of concertgoers running for their lives. [CNN]

Almutaz Bur News Network
Published on Oct 4, 2017

At about the 0m:40s mark, the bursts begin. While CNN concentrates on people running, try concentrating on the 32nd floor windows clearly in the picture. Try to find a muzzle flash from the 32nd floor. It is at that near end of the building.

Where are they Mr. Fung?

Here is a CNN link: http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2017/10/05/las-vegas-mass-shooting-concertgoers-running-vo-ctn.cnn

I don't know but a factor/possibility to keep in mind

Interesting possibility, but I posted the 18 minute version of the video at #4 and it is one continuous shot. If the camera was moving all about, it should be noticeable. As she is driving a taxi during the bursts, it is more likely in a hands free holder.

It surprises me that people are taking these various videos at face value.

We know there are plenty of pranksters out there. We know that 4chan/Anonymous and some Reddit groups just love to prank the public.

How about NBC?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8B366HiHPs&feature=youtu.be

NBC Hyper Edits Video From Vegas Shooting

The Red Elephants
Published on Oct 6, 2017

So I expect we'll have a lot of fake videos and CT mongering about this case.

It means you have a vivid imagination or a third or fourth generation tape.

The principle of "generations" doesn't apply to reproduction of digital video super genius.

"EMERGENCY ANNOUNCEMENTS
When the alarm system is activated, horns will sound, flashers will be visible throughout the area and a series of emergency announcements will be played over the public address system. As indicated above, evacuation is not automatic."
https://www.delanolasvegas.com/content/dam/MGM/mandalay- bay/meetings/documents/mandalay-bay-meetings-convention-mbcc-fire- prevention-emergency-evacuation-info-sheet-revised-8-11.pdf
 

flashers will be visible throughout the area

Doesn't matter.  You'll just move on to inventing invisible gunmen on ledges:

"There is a great big ledge. It's yuge. And nobody builds a ledge with no way to access it. "

--Nolu chan

https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi? ArtNum=53000&Disp=42#C42

 

Hey - maybe Paddock was executed by a Klingon sniper from a cloaked bird of prey hovering outside his hotel room?

2. Paddock shot for 10 minutes. He had lots of rifles and lots and lots of ammo. And then he just stopped shooting.

Simple explanation:

He ran out of ammo.

Oops!

Now about that Klingon bird of prey - Were there any related flashes or spatial distortions visible in the cab driver video?

The echo time differences would only indicate the shots were from different vantage points aimed in different directions. It would say nothing of the number of shooters, one or two.

Actually it says quite a bit if you bother to examine what was actually recorded in audio where it *sounds like* two weapons are firing simultaneously.

What's the difference between Reverb and Echo?

The principle of "generations" doesn't apply to reproduction of digital video super genius.

It doesn't apply nearly as much but it is still there.

Doesn't matter. You'll just move on to inventing invisible gunmen on ledges:

I'm liking this idea.

Now about that Klingon bird of prey - Were there any related flashes or spatial distortions visible in the cab driver video?

Klingons would explain a lot.

You should start your own YouBoob channel to share these insights with the world.

It doesn't apply nearly as much but it is still there.

"Used correctly, digital technology can eliminate generation loss."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_loss