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Multiple Baltimore Ravens and Jacksonville Jaguars players knelt on Sunday during the playing of the national anthem at the first NFL game since President Trump called for players who take a knee to be fired. Video and photos posted to Twitter shows players kneeling and locking arms as the anthem played.
Jacksonville Jaguars owner Shad Khan joined his players on the field and linked arms with them before the game began.
Trump has faced backlash in recent days from after calling on NFL owners to fire players who kneel during the national anthem. "Wouldn't you love to see one of these NFL owners, when somebody disrespects our flag, to say, 'Get that son of a b---- off the field right now,'" Trump said at a rally in Alabama on Friday. "'He is fired.'" Trumps comments brought rebukes against Trump from multiple NFL players, the head of the NFL players union and NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell, who called Trumps comments divisive and said they showed a lack of respect for the NFL. Several NFL executives have also spoken out against Trump and reaffirmed their players rights to peacefully protest. But Trump on Sunday doubled down on his comments, calling for players to be fired or suspended for not standing during the national anthem and hitting the NFL for not telling players to stand.
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I did my best to get those Twitter pics to show here.
Notice that "Shad Khan" (what a cute nickname), the Jaguars owner is a Paki immigrant and Sunni Muslim who joined his team in publicly disrespecting our country.
Notice that they traveled overseas to disrespect our flag and anthem. But both teams stood for the British anthem!
Another NFL story about kneeling:
#31: misterwhite To: Tooconservative (#6)
Uh-huh. And if a member of the Ku Klux Klan apologized for the latest cross burning in a black's front yard and donated $35K to the United Negro College Fund that would make race relations better?
We now know what he thinks, how he feels, and what he tells his friends. That's not gonna change. He's simply going to be more careful.
misterwhite posted on 2017-09-24 16:35:47 Reply Private Reply
#32: redleghunter To: Tooconservative, Nolu Chan, Liberator (#23)
Steelers don't participate in national anthem, with exception of ex-Ranger Alejandro Villanueva
redleghunter posted on 2017-09-24 16:42:30 Reply Private Reply
#33: buckeroo To: A K A Stone (#25)
Heathen, you just make stuff up.
buckeroo posted on 2017-09-24 17:03:27 Reply Private Reply
#34: nolu chan To: misterwhite, Tooconservative (#1)
If he wants to give them the ol' yellow stain blues, send the dogs after them on anti-trust.
nolu chan posted on 2017-09-24 17:03:32 Reply Private Reply
#35: nolu chan To: redleghunter (#28)
They thought they were playing My Country, Tis of Thee.
nolu chan posted on 2017-09-24 17:06:08 Reply Private Reply
#36: nolu chan To: Pinguinite, Tooconservative (#12)
Actually, it has already spread to major league baseball, and internationally, and the actions are not happening in private.
What it is not, is a matter of constitutionally protected free speech. The First Amendment protects against governmental interference with free speech.
If the players can disrespect the flag, the national anthem, or the country on the field, in uniform, while they represent the team and the league, it is because they are being permitted to do so by the NFL and their team.
nolu chan posted on 2017-09-24 17:17:40 Reply Private Reply
#37: Hondo68 To: nolu chan, *Bill of Rights-Constitution* (#36)
Thank you for admitting that Trump is wrong, and should shut his scofflaw mouth.
Hondo68 posted on 2017-09-24 17:26:01 Reply Private Reply
#38: nolu chan To: hondo68 (#37)
Thank you for participating. You get the Kaepernick participation award for adding your highly valued, albeit erroneous, insight.
nolu chan posted on 2017-09-24 17:29:33 Reply Private Reply
#39: Hondo68 To: nolu chan (#38)
Another Rockefeller Republican heard from.
Hondo68 posted on 2017-09-24 18:10:16 Reply Private Reply
#40: A K A Stone To: hondo68 (#37)
A K A Stone posted on 2017-09-24 18:20:41 Reply Private Reply
#41: Tooconservative To: redleghunter (#32)
That will not be forgotten. I'm sure Twitter applauded him and the SJWs tore him up.
Tooconservative posted on 2017-09-24 19:10:53 Reply Private Reply
#42: Tooconservative To: hondo68 (#37)
Trump is equally free to urge their employers to fire them.
Tooconservative posted on 2017-09-24 19:12:50 Reply Private Reply
#43: Tooconservative To: nolu chan (#24)
I had to look him up, had never heard of him even if he is syndicated on 100 stations. Good quip though.
Tooconservative posted on 2017-09-24 19:16:36 Reply Private Reply
#44: Tooconservative To: A K A Stone (#26)
Tooconservative posted on 2017-09-24 19:17:46 Reply Private Reply
#45: Tooconservative To: redleghunter (#27)
Did any Patriots kneel? I'm curious after their owner Kraft criticized Trump and supported the playas.
Someone should start a website, listing who kneels or acts out or refuse to leave the locker room for the anthem and in which games.
Update: Some Patriots did kneel, Brady did an arm link with one for solidarity
Tooconservative posted on 2017-09-24 19:32:06 Reply Private Reply
#46: nolu chan To: hondo68 (#39)
nolu chan posted on 2017-09-24 19:56:29 Reply Private Reply
#47: nolu chan To: Tooconservative (#43)
I have heard him occasionally as a fill-in for Rush Limbaugh.
nolu chan posted on 2017-09-24 19:59:36 Reply Private Reply
#48: nolu chan To: Tooconservative (#45)
It was a dozen or so. Loud booing followed the national anthem.
http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/patriots/the_blitz/2017/09/devin_mccourty_explains_why_patriots_knelt_during_national_anthem
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nolu chan posted on 2017-09-24 20:06:57 Reply Private Reply
#49: nolu chan To: Tooconservative, redleghunter (#45)
http://thehill.com/homenews/news/352164-nascar-owners-say-they-wouldnt-tolerate-national-anthem-protests-at-races
nolu chan posted on 2017-09-24 20:31:35 Reply Private Reply
#50: GrandIsland To: Tooconservative (#44)
All eyes on tomorrow nights game. If no Cowboys disrespect our anthem, then Dallas will be the only team I watch this year.
GrandIsland posted on 2017-09-24 20:58:44 Reply Private Reply
#51: A K A Stone To: GrandIsland (#50)
I've always disliked the Dallas Cowboys.
They may be my new favorite team.
A K A Stone posted on 2017-09-24 21:01:28 Reply Private Reply
#52: redleghunter To: nolu chan (#49)
Houston Texans apparently all stood. Jerry Jones told Cowboys players if they kneel they don't play. That was rumor control from a few coaches I know in the know. :-)
redleghunter posted on 2017-09-24 21:01:34 Reply Private Reply
#53: A K A Stone To: redleghunter (#52)
Houston Oilers used to be my favorite team. Back in the days of Earl Campbell, Warren Moon, Ernest Givins etc.
A K A Stone posted on 2017-09-24 21:03:19 Reply Private Reply
#54: Tooconservative To: GrandIsland (#50)
Maybe you shouldn't switch teams just yet. See how it plays out for a week or so. There's still plenty of NFL season left.
Tooconservative posted on 2017-09-24 22:01:26 Reply Private Reply
#55: redleghunter To: All (#52)
Update. Local sports writer stated the Jerry Jones threat was fake news.
So stay tuned for Monday Night football to see how the Cowboys deal with the recent protests.
redleghunter posted on 2017-09-24 22:03:39 Reply Private Reply
#56: Tooconservative To: redleghunter, nolu chan (#32)
I looked into this one more. I saw it reported that the young black coach of the Steelers, Mike Tomlin, was on the field with some other coaches (but nowhere near Villaneuve).
I noticed that ABC initially reported that all the Steelers stayed in the locker room. Obviously a lie and a deliberate lie at that.
Then ABC switched around and tried to pretend that the Steelers QB came out once the anthem had started. Well, it looked like he came out leading the team only after the last words of the anthem were sung. So, another deliberate lie, I think.
"We're not participating in the anthem today," Tomlin said, adding that the action was "not to be disrespectful to the anthem" but to remove the team "from this circumstance."
"People shouldn't have to choose" whether to kneel or stand during the anthem, he said. "If a guy feels a need to do something he should not be separated from his teammate who chooses not to."
"So we're not participating today," he said. "That's our decision."
At Soldier Field, Coach Tomlin was spotted with other coaches on the sideline, but most of the players remained in the locker room as expected.
Once the national anthem commenced, quarterback Ben Roethlisberger walked out of the tunnel, as did left tackle Alejandro Villanueva, who served as an Army ranger in Afghanistan. He held a hand over his heart as he marched onto the field.
With all the arm-linking and statements about "supporting their teammates" (including some shameless pandering by Tom Brady), where were the Steelers supporting their teammate Villaneuve who had served multiple tours in Af-Pak?
And then ABC shamelessly lied about the whole event. You know, because those football fans are just too damned stupid to notice all their lies anyway.
Tomlin gave this answer on the Steelers sitting it out post-game:
Tooconservative posted on 2017-09-24 23:40:10 Reply Private Reply
#57: redleghunter To: Tooconservative (#56)
As Bruce Maxwell first MLB player to kneel for anthem
A terrible team and insignificant rookie.
redleghunter posted on 2017-09-24 23:55:37 Reply Private Reply
#58: Tooconservative To: redleghunter (#57)
The YouTube thread is an all-out flame war as you can imagine. They seem to hate Villaneuve almost as much as they used to hate Tebow. At least, they're testing the waters.
Tooconservative posted on 2017-09-25 00:13:38 Reply Private Reply
#59: nolu chan To: Tooconservative, redleghunter (#58)
https://twitter.com/govmikehuckabee?lang=en
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nolu chan posted on 2017-09-25 01:57:53 Reply Private Reply
#60: nolu chan To: redleghunter, Tooconservative (#57)
nolu chan posted on 2017-09-25 02:08:07 Reply Private Reply
#61: nolu chan To: All (#60)
http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-weekend-shootings-september-22-to-24-447523093.html
nolu chan posted on 2017-09-25 02:40:04 Reply Private Reply
#62: buckeroo To: Tooconservative (#8)
I couldn't help myself but find a variation of that old gif you posted. So there!
buckeroo posted on 2017-09-25 05:16:03 Reply Private Reply
#63: A K A Stone To: Tooconservative (#58)
My brother is a huge Pittsburgh fan since he was a kid. He doesn't care much for Tomlin. I'm wondering what he thinks of the Steelers now.
A K A Stone posted on 2017-09-25 07:25:28 Reply Private Reply
#64: Tooconservative To: A K A Stone (#63)
I suppose you could ask him at a Thanksgiving or Christmas dinner.
I would guess that the libs are scribbling away already on advisory pieces about "how to talk to your child about football and the trauma of the national anthem", "how to talk to your drunk uncle about how wrong the anthem is", etc.
Of course, this is just the Left doing its best to make everything political and controversial. And they do, of course, hate Thanksgiving and Christmas and the anthem and the NFL to begin with so pouring some gasoline on this and striking matches is a no-brainer for them. They are political arsonists.
Tooconservative posted on 2017-09-25 08:38:41 Reply Private Reply
#65: Tooconservative To: nolu chan (#61)
My first guess: they were all shot by our national anthem.
Tooconservative posted on 2017-09-25 08:42:12 Reply Private Reply
#66: no gnu taxes To: nolu chan (#36)
That is entirely the issue, and why so many people are starting to shun the NFL.
no gnu taxes posted on 2017-09-25 08:49:47 Reply Private Reply
#67: Tooconservative To: All, redleghunter, nolu chan, A K A Stone, buckeroo (#58)
Sales of the former Army Rangers jersey on Fanatics.com shot up to the highest-seller among Pittsburgh Steelers jersey as of just 10 PM Eastern time.
Additionally, Villanuevas jersey sales rocketed into the top sellers in the entire league as of 7:45 PM EST behind only Marshawn Lynch, Derek Carr, Carson Wentz, Brown, and Aaron Rodgers, 247 Sports reported.
I think we all could have predicted this one.
Tooconservative posted on 2017-09-25 09:17:50 Reply Private Reply
#68: Pinguinite To: nolu chan (#36)
Well, it is constitutionally protected from criminal action which means Trump has zero legal authority to do anything about it. My meaning with "private" was that the government has no say or grounds for complaint in the matter, and that it was solely in the purview of the NFL to deal with however they see fit. True, as stadiums qualify as public venues and the events are widely broadcast it is not private it that sense.
As it is not a federal matter, Trump should declare it as such, and his condemnation of the protest should be billed as his personal opinion, though underscoring that is not Trump's way.
From another angle, Trump's condemnation of the protests have actually served to reward the protesters with the very attention they want. That may have actually fanned the flames, so to speak, and encouraged other athletes to protest as well. Pro athletes may well have modest loyalty to country, but likely a stronger loyalty to their teammates, and compatriots in other pro sports.
Pinguinite posted on 2017-09-25 11:07:00 Reply Private Reply
#69: redleghunter To: Tooconservative (#67)
Retired Sergeant Major across the street good buddy and neighbor is a huge Steelers fan. He's mighty pissed. I'm sure when he gets back from Idaho bear hunting (he did get a medium sized black bear last week) he will be sporting Villanueva's jersey in his garage workshop.
redleghunter posted on 2017-09-25 11:25:05 Reply Private Reply
#70: redleghunter To: Tooconservative, tomder55, Liberator, Nolu Chan (#67)
Unrepentant hypocrite Colin Kaepernick defends Fidel Castro
redleghunter posted on 2017-09-25 11:30:51 Reply Private Reply
#71: Tooconservative To: redleghunter (#69)
Hitting them in the wallet is the only way to make the SJW NFL and SJW ESPN change.
This is another strategy of the Left overall. Just as they want to no-platform any conservatives who disagree with them, they want to convert the supposed untouchable cultural elements like the NFL with no-escapism. They want you to have no opportunity to escape their message in any venue and they will not tolerate anyone trying to use "their platform" unless it is in conformity with their policy agenda.
In this sense, I expect they will try to silence or expel Villaneuva. Or he will be targeted for a career-ending injury by other teams.
Tooconservative posted on 2017-09-25 11:44:07 Reply Private Reply
#72: redleghunter To: Tooconservative (#71)
I'm sure he will be labeled "white latino" sometime this week.
redleghunter posted on 2017-09-25 11:45:54 Reply Private Reply
#73: Tooconservative To: redleghunter (#70)
You might remind him of Kaep getting away with wearing pig socks with his uniform, entirely contrary to NFL and team policy. Goodell did nothing.
But try to honor fallen cops or wear a Christian T-shirt while sitting on the sidelines injured? All hell will break loose and Goodell will swing into action.
Tooconservative posted on 2017-09-25 11:46:00 Reply Private Reply
#74: Tooconservative To: redleghunter (#72)
Perhaps you know already but he is not a Latino of any flavor.
His father was a Spanish naval officer who had an assignment with NATO that brought him to the States and he was born here and had birthright citizenship as a result. His mother was also Spanish with both parents over 6' tall. That's tall for Spaniards.
So Villaneuva is a Spaniard, not a Hispanic. Therefore he's just another oppressive white man.
Tooconservative posted on 2017-09-25 11:49:19 Reply Private Reply
#75: Liberator To: nolu chan, redleghunter, tooconsevative, GrandIsland, Stoner (#24)
$44 million per year Globalist-Propagandist NFL Commish Roger Goodell:
"The NFL and our players are at our best when we create a sense of unity in our country and our culture."
Oh, the irony.
"Our culture"? "OUR Unity"?? WHOSE "sense of culture and unity" is that? The hypocritical, ungrateful, self-entitled. narcissistic "BLAME/HATE WHITEY!!" culture that is attempting to unite division, anarchy and hatred? The one that self-loathing white liberal-Left embraces? Uh, yeah.
Is this 0bama's "Culture" of "Hope & Change" of destroying America's institutions and our sovereignty from within?
ANSWER: YES TO ALL.
More PsyOps, guys. Nothing but PsyOps. DIVIDE & CONQUER.
Once the NFL exploited Pink Month as part of their "OPERATION: Feminize-Males" SJW agenda, some of us knew the Globalist' Game Plan was in full swing.
From the very beginning when Kaep suddenly decided to disrespect the National Anthem -- *without* being disciplined, it was GAME ON.
The NFL *also* is run by its own sub-"Shadow Governance" -- a division of Global Shadow Gubmint Inc. They knowingly used Kaep to catapult the propaganda and their agenda.
Given the league is 70% black, the future math, and coercion and peer pressure wasn't going to be hard to figure out.
All part of the ongoing demonizing of Trump, Whitey, and actual American UNITY and SOVEREIGNTY. All designed to help create CW2, chaos + anarchy = Martial Law.
Liberator posted on 2017-09-25 12:17:46 Reply Private Reply
#76: Liberator To: Tooconservative, redleghunter (#74)
Interesting background on Villaneuva -- who is proven to a true and courageous patriot.
Should the Steelers (the author of the "Rooney Rule" that coerced NFL teams into AA employment policies that did NOT apply ironically to players) cut Villaneuva, the blow-back would be a tsunami. Already this stunt yesterday will prove to be crippling to the NFL.
That said, I concur with Red's prediction that the MSM will spin it so Villaneuva will be labeled "white latino" sometime this week.
Liberator posted on 2017-09-25 12:23:28 Reply Private Reply
#77: Liberator To: redleghunter (#70)
And the NFL/ESPN yawned. OR praised him.
Liberator posted on 2017-09-25 12:24:14 Reply Private Reply
#78: Tooconservative To: Liberator, redleghunter, nolu chan (#76)
Football fans across America were clamoring for the jersey of Pittsburgh Steelers offensive tackle Alejandro Villanueva on Monday, a day after the former Army Ranger broke team orders by being the only player to come out of the locker room for the national anthem.
Villanueva, who stood alone while "The Star-Spangled Banner was being played Sunday in Chicago, currently has the #1 selling jersey on the NFLs web store, ahead of top players including Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers and Derek Carr.
Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin appeared to take a swipe at the Bronze Star recipient's decision in a post-game press conference. Tomlin told the media that, prior to kickoff Sunday, the Steelers held a team meeting and decided, though not unanimously, to not come out of the locker room for the national anthem.
Like I said, I was looking for 100 percent participation, we were gonna be respectful of our football team, Tomlin said when asked about Villanueva ignoring the order and coming out for the anthem.
Tomlin added the intent was to have his team focus on the game and not President Trumps comments blasting players who chose to protest during the playing of "The Star-Spangled Banner."
Many of them felt like something needed to be done. I asked those guys to discuss it and whatever they discussed that we have 100 percent participation or we do nothing, Tomlin said after the game. They discussed it for an appropriate length of time and they couldnt come to an understanding, so they chose to remove themselves from it. They were not going to be disrespectful in the anthem so they chose not to participate, but at the same time many of them were not going to accept the words of the president.
Villanueva, who served three tours in Afghanistan, decided to stand his ground instead and placed his hand over his heart while the anthem played.
Were not politicians. Were coaches and professional athletes," Tomlin said Sunday. "If those of us or individuals choose to participate in politics in some way Im going to be supportive of that. But when we come out of locker rooms, we come out of locker rooms to play football games."
There appeared to be some confusion in the Steelers locker room after Villanueva came out of the tunnel for the anthem.
Offensive tackle Chris Hubbard told Penn Live that the players, by a slim majority, voted in favor of staying off the field instead of standing on the sideline holding hands.
"We thought we were all in attention with the same agreement, obviously," linebacker James Harrison told the website. "But, I guess we weren't."
Hubbard, however, said everyone in the locker room accepted that Villanueva would be exempt from the team's decision.
"Al was cool with it, with whatever we went through. He was on board. That's Al, man," Hubbard said. "He's a good guy."
If the coach tries to hold the line on staying in the locker room, he can't be certain that others might not join the Spaniard since the vote was only by a narrow majority.
Notice that the news coverage focusing on the rookie Steeler, J. J. Watt, who raised $30 million for hurricane relief has now entirely disappeared. He was one of those staying in the locker room.
Tooconservative posted on 2017-09-25 13:07:34 Reply Private Reply
#79: redleghunter To: Liberator (#75)
Wonder what would be going on at the stadium if my old Irish head bashing Knights of Columbus uncles were still around. Would not put it passed them to get on the field and 'assist' players to the standing position.
redleghunter posted on 2017-09-25 13:35:08 Reply Private Reply
#80: redleghunter To: Tooconservative (#78)
JJ is on the Houston Texans. AFAIK all the Texans stood for the anthem. They played the Patriots this week.
redleghunter posted on 2017-09-25 13:43:01 Reply Private Reply