The news today is that the worst flood in recorded history is occurring right now, and right here (in my neck of the woods, the Houston/ Galveston area).
Moreover, as with all of the other major events of the last 25 years, I predicted it. (See my book, The Revelation: A Historicist View and turn to the section on the seven last plagues, Plague# 4). I very plainly said that hurricanes and major weather events including floods would wax much worse in 2017. Katrina was just a dress rehearsal, folks.
But Thank God I was fully prepared because like I advised everyone on earth to do, I am completely stocked up on distilled water and can goods, and mosquito spray, and (provided the police give me my gun back) on bullets also. And with all this water to breed in, I'm pretty sure the Aedes from Hades will be here next. And I am making that prediction once again, right here, right now.
So get ready folks for much worse before the 7 last plagues are mitigated.
#45: interpreter To: Pinguinite (#42)
interpreter posted on 2017-08-29 14:03:08 Reply Private Reply
#46: Hondo68 To: interpreter (#0)
Don't drink it! Distilled water is lacking in ALL minerals and nutrients to sustain life. Spring water, etc. is what you want.
Use the distilled water to top off batteries, and in your humidor.
Hondo68 posted on 2017-08-29 14:05:05 Reply Private Reply
#47: interpreter To: Pinguinite (#44)
interpreter posted on 2017-08-29 14:17:30 Reply Private Reply
#48: Pinguinite To: interpreter (#47)
We are to be strong in all ways. But sometimes, being strong means being passive.
Stated more accurately, the bible claims Jesus said this in one particular situation, which Jesus may or may not have actually said, and for whatever it would be worth if he did, whether at the time or to us today. But given that, even though some people claim to be enemies of God as they perceive him, God himself, due to his innate qualities, surely could not possibly have any enemies at all.
Your perception of God is not unlike a Muslim's perception of Allah. That is, a god who is so weak as to order the death of mere people who, in reality, could not pose any possible threat to him in any way whatsoever.
So no, God does not command us to kill anyone. To suggest otherwise is to underestimate God.
Pinguinite posted on 2017-08-29 15:22:34 Reply Private Reply
#49: Tooconservative To: hondo68 (#46)
Thank you for that reminder of the need to maintain our Purity Of Essence.
Tooconservative posted on 2017-08-29 18:23:33 Reply Private Reply
#50: interpreter To: hondo68 (#46)
Your post is so very very ironic, but also very very timely. The Bible says whoever drinks spring water or any kind of fresh water in the last days (meaning right about now) will become sickened from it and many people will die from it (last plague # 3). That means the only safe water to drink is distilled water, as I advise everyone on earth to do in my "2017 in Bible Prophecy" (found on the last page of my book, now out, called "The Revelation: A Historicist View." You may want to read it unless you want to be one of the many many people who die in 2017.
And many many people in my neck of the woods have died from the worst storm/ flood in recorded history, just as I predicted in my book (part of last plague # 4). And the Gulf of Mexico even as this is being written is being struck by the biggest fish kill / dead zone in history (at least in the history of the Gulf of Mexico) which is last plague #2. Everything I predicted is coming to pass, and most of it is taking place right here, right now even as this is being written.
The worst thing about is, I too might die right here right now (that is, by tomorrow) because, after several days of this, and being very close to running out of distilled water, I went to the only store that is open to buy some more distilled water, but the store was out of it, so against my better judgement I actually bought some Ozarka spring water (which I advised everyone on Earth not to do). But at the same time I also bought some beer so tonight I'm drinking beer. Tomorrow, or whenever I run out of beer I am going to be forced to drink some potentially very deadly spring water which I have already predicted will kill someone in 2017. Right now I am praying it is not me, but even if it is, and I fulfill my own prophecy, it is perfectly OK because I am ready to meet my maker whenever that time comes.
Stay tuned right here. If I make a post tomorrow it means I'm alive. If I don't it means I'm dead. But I am leaving it all in God's hands, and I am not worried about it in the least.
interpreter posted on 2017-08-29 21:08:58 Reply Private Reply
#51: interpreter To: Pinguinite (#48)
interpreter posted on 2017-08-29 21:35:18 Reply Private Reply
#52: rlk To: interpreter (#51)
I get the impression I'm hearing from him now.
rlk posted on 2017-08-29 21:45:17 Reply Private Reply
#53: interpreter To: rlk (#52)
interpreter posted on 2017-08-29 21:53:02 Reply Private Reply
#54: Pinguinite To: interpreter (#51)
But things actually work far, far better than that. God is not so petty as to want to wage a war against his kids over silly religious ideology. You underestimate God enormously.
Pinguinite posted on 2017-08-29 22:17:48 Reply Private Reply
#55: interpreter To: Pinguinite (#54)
interpreter posted on 2017-08-29 22:28:26 Reply Private Reply
#56: nolu chan To: goldilucky (#33)
Invocation of the sky fairy does not provide evidence that storms are plagues sent by an angry, hateful sky fairy. Assuredly, it does not move the time that a storm became a hurricane three days back in time to have it occur during an eclipse. Or perhaps God is just slowing down and His hurricane, therefore, arrived three days after the eclipse. Perhaps it was just celestial clerical error.
nolu chan posted on 2017-08-29 22:39:08 Reply Private Reply
#57: nolu chan To: interpreter (#34)
No, you have not cited or quoted anyone, much less reputable scientists. This is rather like your appear to the authority of all the history books. You have yet to name a single applicable history book, even with all of them claimed to be applicable. In like manner, you have not actually named a single reputable scientist, while appealing to the authority of all of them.
Mother Nature is not a sky wizard. People do not talk to the ceiling in an effort to commune with Mother Nature. Mother Nature is nature personified, sort of like Smokey the Bear.
You really have to stick that appeal to anonymous authority in Algore's Lockbox.
There, fixed it.
My appeal of the Scribd computer program report of copyright violation was upheld and I can provide the complete text of the 1965 Act,
Can you identify the specific content of the Act that you find most seriously offending, either by paragraph citation or quoting the provision? That may help to identify the "entire idea/reasoning behind it that caused such an abborition and has made God so very mad."
I am hardly a peaceful Buddhist. I am retired military. Honest to Buddha is a time-honored military expression.
As faith is the strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof, appeal to one's personal belief absent proof is an appeal to authority not based on proof.
nolu chan posted on 2017-08-29 22:45:56 Reply Private Reply
#58: nolu chan To: interpreter (#41)
Can you please QUOTE the provision in Roe that you believe "allows partial-birth abortions and third trimester abortions when the baby is fully formed and fully capable of living outside the womb"?
Murder is a man-made legal construct. If something is legal, it is not murder. Any act that does not meet the legal definition of murder, is not murder.
If Roe were overturned, states such as California could, and likely would, have lawful abortion on demand.
Your God may be a hateful, wrathful, avenging God. You are free to believe whatever you want. Resort to your invisible friend when your attempt at rational/factual argument fails is not persuasive.
nolu chan posted on 2017-08-29 22:46:48 Reply Private Reply
#59: goldilucky To: nolu chan (#56)
2 Peter 3King James Version (KJV)
3 This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:
2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:
3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.
15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.
18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.
goldilucky posted on 2017-08-29 22:49:07 Reply Private Reply
#60: paraclete To: goldilucky (#59)
paraclete posted on 2017-08-29 23:01:55 Reply Private Reply
#61: buckeroo To: paraclete (#60)
buckeroo posted on 2017-08-29 23:13:26 Reply Private Reply
#62: nolu chan To: goldilucky (#59)
nolu chan posted on 2017-08-30 00:15:26 Reply Private Reply
#63: interpreter To: nolu chan (#57)
For God's sake, all you have to do is watch ABC News, or CBS or NBC or any other reputable news source, or just Google it. I am not going to do it for you because I don't have the time to be constantly humoring you. BTW, it is no longer being called a 1000-year storm on some stations. It is now sometimes being called a 1500 to 2000 year storm because it is still going and is now plaguing Lousianna as well. And after that it is predicted to hit Mississippi as it goes on down the coast.
And the main reason I have not quoted any history textbooks that say what I said about the second coming of Jesus in 312AD is because none of them, not one, is currently in print because all school districts/ colleges in the US have replaced them with revisionist history. If you want to read one you are probably going to have to go to a used book store that specializes in very old textbooks. And I can assure you that none of them are on the internet, so that's not going to help you. That means you are going to have to do some serious digging/legwork on your own because I certainly dont have the time to do it for you. (But if you would for once be patient, I might do it for you after the big storm passes).
"Can you identify the specific content of the Act that you find most seriously offending, either by paragraph citation or quoting the provision? That may help to identify the "entire idea/reasoning behind it that caused such an abborition and has made God so very mad."
Well, I could but sorry I am not going to. That's for two very big reasons. First of all, all bills/laws passed by Congress are many many pages long and full of legalize that I or no one on earth except lawyers can possibly understand. Secondly, lest you forget, I am in the middle of the worst hurricane/ flood in recorded history and I am fighting for my life, and the life/ well being of my loved ones. So no, I am not about to humor you this time except to say, you read it, and you tell me what it says, and in plain English please and no legalize, and then I will consider responding on this issue.
"I am hardly a peaceful Buddhist. I am retired military. Honest to Buddha is a time-honored military expression."
I am also retired military and I have never ever heard that phrase before. But I do apologize if I falsely accused you of being a Buddhist. Sorry.
"As faith is the strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof, appeal to one's personal belief absent proof is an appeal to authority not based on proof."
Everything I say is based entirely on historical and scientific facts and not on any faith or myths because I don't have faith that there is a God, I know there is a God based entirely on historical and scientific facts. If something in the Bible does not agree with the facts, I cut it out of the Bible (literally and you should see my Bible if you don't believe me). But the vast majority of the Bible I have found to be 100% true.
interpreter posted on 2017-08-30 00:44:30 Reply Private Reply
#64: Tooconservative To: paraclete (#60)
He didn't destroy the earth with the Flood. After all, it is still here and perking along nicely.
It does seem that He's planning to do us all by destroying the earth with fire someday though.
Like burning up in fire is so much nicer than a simple flood.
Tooconservative posted on 2017-08-30 01:30:02 Reply Private Reply
#65: interpreter To: nolu chan (#58)
And the legal definition of murder should also be changed, and any other law if it disagrees with the Bible because that is what all English laws are supposed to be based on as everyone knows (except you apparently).
interpreter posted on 2017-08-30 01:36:08 Reply Private Reply
#66: goldilucky To: paraclete (#60)
goldilucky posted on 2017-08-30 12:07:34 Reply Private Reply
#67: goldilucky To: paraclete (#60)
goldilucky posted on 2017-08-30 14:56:04 Reply Private Reply
#68: nolu chan To: interpreter (#65)
Actually, it says no such thing about partial-birth or third trimester abortions. Partial-birth abortion is illegal, your interpretation of Roe, based on alt-left sources and Planned Parenthood interpretation notwithstanding.
What Roe actually says is, "For the stage subsequent to viability, the State in promoting its interest in the potentiality of human life may, it it chooses, regulate, and even proscribe abortion excep[t where it is necessary, in appropriate medical judgment, for the preservation of the life or health of the mother."
One does not need to overturn Roe v. Wade to make partial-birth abortion a crime. It is already criminalized by Federal statute of 5 November 2003.
What Federal law actually says is, "Any physician who, in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce, knowingly performs a partial-birth abortion and thereby kills a human fetus shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both."
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S.3 108th Congress (2003-2004)
Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003
Sponsor: Sen. Santorum, Rick [R-PA] (Introduced 02/14/2003)
Cosponsors: (45) Committee Reports: H. Rept. 108-288 (Conference Report)
Latest Action: 11/05/2003
Became Public Law No: 108-105. (TXT | PDF) (All Actions)
Congress passed the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003 and it became Public Law 108-105.
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As it appears codified at 18 United States Code, § 1531
http://law.justia.com/codes/us/2015/title-18/part-i/chapter-74/sec.-1531/
18 U.S.C. 1531
nolu chan posted on 2017-08-30 17:44:37 Reply Private Reply
#69: nolu chan To: interpreter (#63)
I know you will not identify your imaginary reputable scientists, or your imaginary history books, because you cant.
You have the time to prattle on and on, but not the time to type the name of a book and its author, or the name of a reputable scientist.
ABC, NBC, CBS, and Google are not reputable scientists. But I can do Google for one who is either too lazy, or just unwilling to do Google.
Is the source of this claim spirit voices talking to you?
http://www.newsweek.com/hurricane-harvey-katrina-monster-storms-understanding-devastation-657079
http://heavy.com/news/2017/08/harvey-comparison-katrina-ranking-damage-cost-estimate-how-does-hurricane/
https://www.livescience.com/60257-harvey-vs-katrina-storm-comparison.html
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/25/us/hurricane-harvey-compare-storms-trnd/index.html
The Hurricane Harvey rainfall is not the record for the world or the U.S., but is for the continental U.S.
https://www.theweathernetwork.com/news/articles/the-eight-deadliest-storms-in-history/16402
So no, no Atlantic or Gulf storm ranks at or near the worst storm in history.
nolu chan posted on 2017-08-30 17:49:02 Reply Private Reply
#70: nolu chan To: interpreter (#63)
I accept your representation that your objection to the Act was that the "entire idea/reasoning behind it that caused such an abborition and has made God so very mad," but you are so incapable of reading that or any other Act, that your claim is meaningless.
As for your feared many, many pages, I kindly provided a copy of 79 Stat. 911-922 which has the whole Act under consideratrion in twelve (12) pages.
I can assure you that what you attribute to the Immmigration and Naturalization Act of 1965 does not exist in the Act. As you cannot identify the imaginary content you rely upon for your misbegotten claim, I cannot help you.
On the positive side, you are not in the middle of the worst hurricane/flood in recorded history, but many miles and years removed from that storm.
nolu chan posted on 2017-08-30 17:54:21 Reply Private Reply
#71: Fred Mertz To: nolu chan (#69)
Oh, the irony.
Fred Mertz posted on 2017-08-30 17:55:11 Reply Private Reply
#72: nolu chan To: interpreter (#63)
Darn, that is the best word salad I've seen in a while. If something in the Bible does not agree with the facts, you cut it out. But the vast majority of the Bible you have found to be 100% true.
The divinely inspired word is almost always true, with exceptions you have identified and excised, where the divinely inspired word was contradicted by facts.
Are you God? Just checking.
nolu chan posted on 2017-08-30 20:26:43 Reply Private Reply
#73: nolu chan To: interpreter (#65)
Uh huh. The KING was the head of the church. And right now the Supreme Governor of the Anglican church is Queen Elizabeth II.
English laws were not supposed to be based on the bible. Your supposed knowledge of English law is absolutely abysmal. English law has no formal codification. Murder is a common law crime in England, not one established by Act of Parliament. You apparently espouse your own Sharia-like system of law, and proclaim that everybody knows that is the way it is supposed to be.
The United States adopted the common law system, and every one of the original colonies, by their constitution or by statues, adopted so much of the English common law as was not inconsistent with the U.S. Constitution. Every state has adopted the common law system of law except Louisiana. Louisiana still has a thing for their old Napoleanic code system. The United States codified its laws and has no common law courts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_law
https://www.gotquestions.org/Anglicans.html
Here is an example of a 1700 English statute. I am at a loss to identify which part of the bible inspired it.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/aep/Will3/12-13/2/section/I
nolu chan posted on 2017-08-30 20:28:17 Reply Private Reply
#74: paraclete To: buckeroo (#61)
paraclete posted on 2017-08-30 23:28:18 Reply Private Reply
#75: paraclete To: Tooconservative (#64)
Well think of it this way, what we have done is not an improvement, what does the gardener do when the garden is unproductive? And it isn't as though we haven't been warned.
Fire can come in many ways, an asteroid strike could set the atmosphere on fire, comets could rain down, drought produces the conditions for wild fire, supervolcanoes, or we could just be stupid enough to do it to ourselves
paraclete posted on 2017-08-30 23:34:08 Reply Private Reply
#76: Tooconservative To: paraclete, redleghunter (#75)
Huh? Christians were commanded to be fruitful and multiply.
Apparently, so were the Muslims and Buddhists and Hindus and animists and assorted heathens.
We've been very fruitful.
So call down the wrath of God on yourself if that turns you on but leave the rest of us out of it.
BTW, asteroid strikes cannot set the atmosphere on fire except on the SyFy channel. Or the earth would have been destroyed billions of years ago. The earth is not that fragile or we wouldn't be here to bandy electrons about discussing it.
Tooconservative posted on 2017-08-31 03:22:11 Reply Private Reply
#77: interpreter To: nolu chan (#68)
interpreter posted on 2017-08-31 11:36:38 Reply Private Reply
#78: interpreter To: All (#77)
interpreter posted on 2017-08-31 11:48:02 Reply Private Reply
#79: goldilucky To: interpreter (#78)
earthsky.org/astronomy-es...se-4-planets-bright-stars
goldilucky posted on 2017-08-31 12:15:15 Reply Private Reply
#80: nolu chan To: interpreter (#78)
I've seen it get darker during one of the storms that comes before a tornado. I was not in the path to see much. But the information you seek has been reported. Venus appeared as the Morning Star
http://www.nakedeyeplanets.com/usa-eclipse-2017.htm
nolu chan posted on 2017-08-31 13:00:31 Reply Private Reply
#81: interpreter To: nolu chan (#80)
But I have one more question for you. Now that I know it has to be a good omen, I need to know what city Venus was over at high noon. That is the $64,000 dollar question (as the number 1 game show used to be called, now it's the Million Dollar question after about 60 years of inflation). And please keep in mind that God does not go by man's time (Daylght Savings Time), but His time. (But if you're looking for a million dollars from me, I'm going to have to pay you in Monopoly money, or maybe Pesos, because I don't have a million dollars in real money on me at the moment).
interpreter posted on 2017-08-31 17:02:55 Reply Private Reply
#82: interpreter To: nolu chan (#73)
BTW, the Anglican Church was founded (officially) by St. Mark in 47AD (who was sent by St. Peter), and before that Joseph of Arimethea arrived in England / Canterbury and converted a bunch of people right after the crucifixion. So dont let anyone tell you that the Church in Rome is the oldest Church or the only Church founded by St. Peter. It is simply not true.
interpreter posted on 2017-08-31 20:20:30 Reply Private Reply
#83: Tooconservative To: interpreter, nolu chan (#82)
You're peddling some version of British Israelism.
It reminds me of an old LP poster (David Ben-Something), now dead of AIDS, who favored these ideas, mostly from Herbert Armstrong or his son Garner Ted Armstrong and the Worldwide Church of God. He was always on about the German pope and the EU and how he got deported from Israel some years before his death.
Tooconservative posted on 2017-08-31 22:34:33 Reply Private Reply
#84: buckeroo To: paraclete (#74)
Often, I'm dumbfounded by some of the questions that I receive.
Where was the question mark [?] within the scope of your earlier post just above?
buckeroo posted on 2017-08-31 23:07:13 Reply Private Reply
#85: nolu chan To: interpreter (#81)
I am not sure I can unscramble that question. Is God's time UCT? Local standard time varies from zone to zone, not that Venus would pay any mind to it. I am definitely not an astronomer, just a good finder of stuff.
http://celestialchart.com/ephemeris/
You can slug in a time here and get the position of Venus or other planets at the chosen UCT time.
At 12:00 UCT on 21 August 2017, Venus was at
Right Ascension 7h 44m 59.61s
Declinition 20° 45' 39.5"
I have no idea if that helps.
nolu chan posted on 2017-09-01 01:23:25 Reply Private Reply
#86: nolu chan To: interpreter (#82)
When Henry VIII made rules, he enforced them with beheading. It was simply his decree that broke the Church of England from the Roman Catholic Church. He wanted a Kennedy-like annulment and the Pope said no. So, he separated the Church of England from Rome and, wouldn't ya just know it, the now independent church gave him his Kennedy-like annulment. Wife #1 was annulled, #2 was executed, #3 died, #4 was annulled, #5 was executed, and #6 Henry died. (Joseph P. Kennedy obtained an annulment from the Archdiocese of Boston after 12 years of marriage, two kids, and a divorce. After ten years of bad publicity, the Vatican overturned the annulment.)
Spiritual rulings fell to Ecclesiastical courts.
My father was Episcopal, my mother was Catholic. My mother said that in hospital, when I was born, she shared a semi-private room with a Jewish lady who also had a boy. The Jewish lady had the mohel come, and he did a two-fer and pronounced me an honorary member of the House of David. I have Catholic, Protestant, and Jewish covered.
Until Henry VIII, the Church of England followed Roman Catholicism and acknowledged the authority of the Pope in Rome. In modern times, I have seen its polity listed as Episcopal. Way back, I spent two years living in Northern Ireland. To a Yank, it was amazing how neighborhoods could be segregated, Catholic and Protestant.
nolu chan posted on 2017-09-01 02:32:45 Reply Private Reply
#87: interpreter To: nolu chan (#86)
But yes, for some reason the Irish have historically preferred to submit to the Pope rather than the Archbishop of Canterbury. But the rest of the British Isles have historically been loyal to their Archbishop rather than the Pope. And that is indeed the reason for a lot of fighting (and segregation, etc.) in Ireland over the centuries (unfortunately). And that's why my Grandmother's family left Ireland and came here. At least now most everyone has calmed down and just want peace (even though there are still some occasional flare-ups in that crazy country).
interpreter posted on 2017-09-01 04:23:57 Reply Private Reply
#88: interpreter To: nolu chan (#85)
interpreter posted on 2017-09-01 04:58:32 Reply Private Reply
#89: paraclete To: Tooconservative (#76)
Well it all depends on which version of history you believe, apparently 65 million years ago an asteroid wiped out just about every thing, it has been through many changes including millenia of ice, volcanic activity. It was people who were commanded to be fruitful and multiply, Christians came later after those people apparently stuffed it up. I don't need to call down the wrath of God, the people will do it eventually, through unbelief
paraclete posted on 2017-09-01 19:28:21 Reply Private Reply
#90: nolu chan To: interpreter (#87)
Not really. You either mislearned of misremember English history.
This is documented as categorically false.
King Henry VIII was denied an annulment by the Pope. Why did he ask for an annulment from the Pope? Why did he declare himself the head of the Church of England in order to get an annulment?
I think it because it is a matter of documented history, and I can produce copies of the documents themselves.
The Pope excommunicated Henry VIII in 1533 because of his divorce from Catherine of Aragon. Henry VIII's Act of Supremacy was issued in 1534. It is a fact. Here is a copy of the document from the English Statutes at Large, 2 Stat. 203, C.22, CAP. I, 26 Hen. VIII, Anno. Dom. 1534:
With the stroke of a pen, the Church of England split from the Roman Catholic Church and the authority of the Pope in Rome.
But that is not the end of the story. In 1554, there issued another Act of Supremacy from Henry's Catholic daughter Mary, English Statutes at Large, 2 Stat. 473, C. 8, CAP. VIII., Anno primo & secundo Philippi & Maria, A.D. 1554.
That one starts, [boldface added, archaic letters modernized]
It is not possible to maintain that the England did not recognize the supremacy of the Pope in Rome, both before and after Act of Supremacy of Henry VIII in 1534. It is a matter of documented history.
The full Act of Supremacy of 1554 follows.
I do not allege that England recognized the supremacy of the Pope in Rome, I provide a complete copy of the document which did it, from the English Statutes at Large.
nolu chan posted on 2017-09-02 03:07:51 Reply Private Reply
#91: nolu chan To: interpreter (#87)
Not really. You either mislearned of misremember English history.
This is documented as categorically false.
King Henry VIII was denied an annulment by the Pope. Why did he ask for an annulment from the Pope? Why did he declare himself the head of the Church of England in order to get an annulment?
I think it because it is a matter of documented history, and I can produce copies of the documents themselves.
The Pope excommunicated Henry VIII in 1533 because of his divorce from Catherine of Aragon. Henry VIII's Act of Supremacy was issued in 1534. It is a fact. Here is a copy of the document from the English Statutes at Large, 2 Stat. 203, C.22, CAP. I, 26 Hen. VIII, Anno. Dom. 1534:
With the stroke of a pen, the Church of England split from the Roman Catholic Church and the authority of the Pope in Rome.
But that is not the end of the story. In 1554, there issued another Act of Supremacy from Henry's Catholic daughter Mary, English Statutes at Large, 2 Stat. 473, C. 8, CAP. VIII., Anno primo & secundo Philippi & Maria, A.D. 1554.
That one starts, [boldface added, archaic letters modernized]
It is not possible to maintain that the England did not recognize the supremacy of the Pope in Rome, both before and after Act of Supremacy of Henry VIII in 1534. It is a matter of documented history.
The full Act of Supremacy of 1554 follows.
I do not allege that England recognized the supremacy of the Pope in Rome, I provide a complete copy of the document which did it, from the English Statutes at Large.
nolu chan posted on 2017-09-02 03:33:31 Reply Private Reply
#92: nolu chan To: interpreter (#87)
They did not and do not fight about religion.
The English invaded and conquered Ireland. Afterwards the Irish were largely ruled by Scots Presbyterians. The Irish and the invaders did not mix much, so one can observe the division as ethnic or religious, separatist or unionist, or republican or unionist.
For some reason the conquerors thought it a swell idea during the potato famine to be exporting food from Ireland. For some reason the starving Irish did not appreciate starving.
Tell it to William Wallace. Scots and English get on swell.
In the present tense, there is no fighting and seperation in Ireland, and there has not been for quite some time. The fighting and segregation is, and has been, in Northern Ireland, which is part of the UK. Note that Scotland and Northern Ireland are not part of Great Britain.
Ireland is a seperate sovereign nation altogether. The fighting in Northern Ireland was about the seperatists wanting to reunite the six counties of Northern Ireland with the twenty-six counties of the Republic of Ireland. They were partitioned in 1921.
The second largest religious group in Ireland is the Anglicans, at under 3%.
Northern Ireland (2011) had 40.2% Catholic, 20.7% Presbyterian, and 13.7% Anglican, and 3% Methodist.
When I lived in Northern Ireland, it was between the Battle of the Bogside and the start of internment. Derry (or Londonderry) was predominantly Catholic. When I say predominantly, in 2011 there were 67.4% Catholic to 19.4% Protestant. The districts were gerrymandered to result in Protestant control of the city council. The police, the Royal Ulster Constabulary or RUC, were 100% Protestant. Since 2001 it is the Police Service of Northern Ireland or PSNI, integrated, but still majority Ulster Protestant. All civil service jobs were Protestant. At the U.S. base, now closed, the civilian employees were nearly 100% Catholic.
Well, if it is crazy for a majority to oppose rule by an alien minority, they were crazy. The crazy ones consider it British Occupied Ireland. Until fairly recently, the Irish constitution also claimed all thirty-two counties and anyone born in Northern Ireland could just go to Ireland and get an Irish passport.
There have been dozens of uprisings since 1534. There will probably be more.
It has not really stopped.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissident_Irish_Republican_campaign
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nolu chan posted on 2017-09-02 04:37:15 Reply Private Reply
#93: interpreter To: nolu chan (#92)
That is not true, not true at all, according to what Grandma told me. Her parents, being Protestants and therefore persecuted in Ireland for their religion,and also because of the potato famine you talk about which is only part of it, came to America to escape all of that. And in America she married a Jew. On the other side, my mother is/was a full-blooded German. That would never happen in Ireland or probably anywhere in Europe. I thank God every day that my parents met in America, the great "melting pot."
And it is not just in northern Ireland. Virtually all wars in the history of wars, or at least modern wars, have been fought over religion so your statemente is pretty laughable.
But I have some very Good News! I am predicting that in 2017, or else 2018, All of the Churches established by St. Peter, including my Church, will come back together as one, after 1000 years of the being united as one before the Pope got a wild hair up his butt and added one word to the Nicene Creed which caused the "Great Schism." And that is when all hell broke loose (i.e., the persecution of Christians in the Holy Land and the Crusades, and all that).
Fast forward one thousand years to today. Now there are about 10,000 schisms, and counting, and the world has completely gone to hell.
And even as we speak my prediction is coming to pass. The Archbihop of Canterbury is currently holding talks with the Patriarch of Constantinople, with the stated purpose of bringing our Churches back together for the first time in a 1000 years. But the current Pope at the present time at least, is refusing to join the talks. But it may yet happen, but IMHO probably after the current Pope is dead. (And no I am not making a death threat, but everyone has to meet their maker at some point).
Anyhow, when all the Churches established by St. Peter and his successors come back together (including the Lutherans and Presbyterians and Methodists, et al), then and only then will we be able to defeat the 7th head of Satan (Islam) in the final battle between good and evil. Then we will rule the Earth unhindered by Satan for a 1000 years! Barry Midyet BTW I haven't posted in 3 days basically because it took 3 days to get Harvey out of my boat, and for everything to return to some semblance of normal on the Gulf Coast and now a hurricane far worse than Harvey is coming, and I'm stocking up for the next one, a 4000 year storm the weathermen are saying.
interpreter posted on 2017-09-07 05:24:02 Reply Private Reply
#94: interpreter To: nolu chan (#91)
I know all this because that is what I learned in the 7 week Catachism class I had to sit through in order to join the English Church.
interpreter posted on 2017-09-07 05:52:02 Reply Private Reply