Oh, so you are indeed claiming credit for predicting the hurricane as part of the eclipse! I looked it up and Harvey was already a named storm before you posted your prediction. But I guess you like to give yourself as much leeway as required to make yourself right. Certainly you need to.

Oh, well, when I said "house" I certainly didn't necessarily mean you were a home owner. One's "house" could be an apartment, or if you are indeed homeless, it would/could mean the bridge overpass or cardboard box you would be sleeping under. Anything you sleep under could be considered one's "house", even if it's a tree, so my prediction stands true.

See how that works? I can do what you do too.

Thanks for confirming that Harvey did indeed form during the eclipse. But I personally (and probably most of the world) did not find out about it till the next day because the news media was focused on the eclipse mostly and also the threat of nuclear war, and (as far as the channels I was watching) never once mentioned the itsy-bitsy teenie weeny tropical depression that formed in the Gulf that day.

"Oh, well, when I said "house" I certainly didn't necessarily mean you were a home owner. One's "house" could be an apartment, or if you are indeed homeless, it would/could mean the bridge overpass or cardboard box you would be sleeping under. Anything you sleep under could be considered one's "house", even if it's a tree, so my prediction stands true. See how that works? I can do what you do too."

Well, I live on a boat, and at the present moment in time, I have no earthly idea if its still there or not, so I may very well have to sleep under a bridge at some point, but right now there are numerous homeless shelters being set up by the state and FEMA, et al, for all the homeless people displaced by Harvey so I am not worried about it at all. No matter what happens to my boat, I thank God that I and all my relatives and neighbors and friends are still alive and kicking.

And as for a baby being born during the eclipse, what I actually said was a baby born in 2017 (possibly during the eclipse) will live to be 1000 years old. That narrows down your "11,000 babies" remark considerably dont you think?

Thanks for confirming that Harvey did indeed form during the eclipse.

I confirmed no such thing. I instead confirmed that Harvey was already named, and it was named PRIOR to the eclipse. What defines a "forming" in the case of this storm is actually very ambiguous. Harvey is a low pressure system, so it's actual origins go back to when that low pressure system first formed, which may have been a month ago or more. The difference between a simple low pressure system and a hurricane is simply a matter of arbitrary categorizing by man.

Well, I live on a boat, and at the present moment in time, I have no earthly idea if its still there or not, so I may very well have to sleep under a bridge at some point, but right now there are numerous homeless shelters being set up by the state and FEMA, et al, for all the homeless people displaced by Harvey so I am not worried about it at all. No matter what happens to my boat, I thank God that I and all my relatives and neighbors and friends are still alive and kicking.

Do know that in spite of my criticisms, I don't wish you or your family or neighbors any harm. I hope you recover well.

And as for a baby being born during the eclipse, what I actually said was a baby born in 2017 (possibly during the eclipse) will live to be 1000 years old. That narrows down your "11,000 babies" remark considerably dont you think?

No, it actually does quite the reverse. That "possibly" clause renders the eclipse event moot, so we now have to multiply 11,000 by 365 which gives us about 4 million babies to watch grow up, and only if and when all of them die, which would not happen even if there was a full scale nuclear war, would we know if that prediction comes true. Which means it's a certainty that you need not be concerned about being proven wrong while you still draw breath.

AND.... there have been predictions, not based on religious beliefs, but instead based on medical science advancements that some people already born or who will be in the very near future will live 1000 years. I've no idea if that's the basis of your claim or not.

[Pinguinite #13] Oh, so you are indeed claiming credit for predicting the hurricane as part of the eclipse! I looked it up and Harvey was already a named storm before you posted your prediction.

[interpreter #17 to Pinguinite #13] Thanks for confirming that Harvey did indeed form during the eclipse.

The eclipse occurred on August 21st.

Harvey reached tropical storm status on August 17. It degenerated to a tropical wave on August 19th. It redeveloped by August 23rd, regained tropical storm status on August 24th, and became a hurricane on August 24th.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Harvey

The eighth named storm, third hurricane, and the first major hurricane of the 2017 Atlantic hurricane season, Harvey developed from a tropical wave to the east of the Lesser Antilles, reaching tropical storm status on August 17. The storm crossed through the Windward Islands on the following day, passing just south of Barbados and later near Saint Vincent. Upon entering the Caribbean Sea, Harvey began to weaken due to moderate wind shear and degenerated into a tropical wave north of Colombia early on August 19. The remnants were monitored for regeneration as it continued west-northwestward across the Caribbean and the Yucatán Peninsula, before redeveloping over the Bay of Campeche on August 23. Harvey then began to rapidly intensify on August 24, regaining tropical storm status and becoming a hurricane later that day. While the storm moved generally northwestwards, Harvey's intensification phase stalled slightly overnight from August 24–25, however Harvey soon resumed strengthening and became a category 4 hurricane late on August 25. Hours later, Harvey made landfall near Rockport, Texas, at peak intensity.

"And as for a baby being born during the eclipse, what I actually said was a baby born in 2017 (possibly during the eclipse) will live to be 1000 years old. That narrows down your "11,000 babies" remark considerably dont you think?"

"No, it actually does quite the reverse. That "possibly" clause renders the eclipse event moot, so we now have to multiply 11,000 by 365 which gives us about 4 million babies to watch grow up, and only if and when all of them die, which would not happen even if there was a full scale nuclear war, would we know if that prediction comes true. Which means it's a certainty that you need not be concerned about being proven wrong while you still draw breath.

AND.... there have been predictions, not based on religious beliefs, but instead based on medical science advancements that some people already born or who will be in the very near future will live 1000 years. I've no idea if that's the basis of your claim or not."

You are constantly contradicting yourself. I am merely combining what Jesus said with what scientists are saying. They are predicting that a baby (one baby) will be born this year who will live to be 1000 years old, and not 4 million. You say the darnest things.

And if hurricane Harvey formed before the eclipse, then how come no one knew about it? That's just as crazy as saying that I said (or scientists or whoever) that 4 million babies born this year will live to be 1000.

You need to get off whatever you are smoking.

Barry M

[interpreter] And if hurricane Harvey formed before the eclipse, then how come no one knew about it?

My very bestest swag is that they failed to read the weather advisories issued by the National Hurricane Center.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2017/al09/al092017.public_a.001.shtml

NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER

WEATHER ADVISORY

TROPICAL STORM HARVEY

ZCZC MIATCPAT4 ALL
TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM CCB

BULLETIN
Potential Tropical Cyclone Nine
Intermediate Advisory Number 1A...Corrected
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL092017
200 PM AST Thu Aug 17 2017

CORRECTED DUE TO PARTIAL RE-TRANSMISSION OF OLD ADVISORY...

...HURRICANE HUNTER AIRCRAFT ENROUTE TO INVESTIGATE THE DISTURBANCE...

SUMMARY OF 200 PM AST...1800 UTC...INFORMATION
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LOCATION...13.1N 55.1W
ABOUT 295 MI...475 KM E OF BARBADOS
ABOUT 410 MI...660 KM E OF ST. LUCIA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...35 MPH...55 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...W OR 270 DEGREES AT 17 MPH...28 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1007 MB...29.74 INCHES

WATCHES AND WARNINGS
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CHANGES WITH THIS ADVISORY:

None.

SUMMARY OF WATCHES AND WARNINGS IN EFFECT:

A Tropical Storm Warning is in effect for...
* Martinique
* St. Lucia
* Barbados
* St. Vincent and the Grenadines

A Tropical Storm Watch is in effect for...
* Dominica

A Tropical Storm Warning means that tropical storm conditions are expected somewhere within the warning area, in this case within 24-36 hours.

A Tropical Storm Watch means that tropical storm conditions are possible within the watch area, in this case within 24-36 hours.

For storm information specific to your area, please monitor products issued by your national meteorological service.

DISCUSSION AND 48-HOUR OUTLOOK
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At 200 PM AST (1800 UTC), the disturbance was centered near latitude 13.1 North, longitude 55.1 West. The system is moving toward the west near 17 mph (28 km/h) and this motion is expected to continue for the next couple of days. On the forecast track, the disturbance should move through the Windward Islands and into the eastern Caribbean Sea on Friday.

Maximum sustained winds are near 35 mph (55 km/h) with higher gusts. The disturbance is expected to become a tropical cyclone later today or tonight, and it could become a tropical storm before reaching the Windward islands.

Satellite imagery indicates the disturbance is close to becoming a tropical cyclone. An Air Force Reserve Hurricane Hunter Aircraft is currently en route to investigate the system.
* Formation chance through 48 hours... high...near 100 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...high...near 100 percent

The estimated minimum central pressure is 1007 mb (29.74 inches).

HAZARDS AFFECTING LAND
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WIND: Tropical storm conditions are expected to first reach the Lesser Antilles within the warning area by early Friday, making outside preparations difficult or dangerous. Tropical storm conditions are possible in the watch area on Friday.

RAINFALL: The disturbance is expected to produce rainfall totals of 2 to 4 inches across portions of the Windward Islands from Martinique southward to Grenada. These rains could cause life-threatening flash floods and mudslides.

NEXT ADVISORY
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Next complete advisory at 500 PM AST.

$$
Forecaster Beven

NNNN

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17 Aug 2017

TROPICAL STORM HARVEY

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2017/al09/al092017.public_a.002.shtml

18 August 2017

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2017/al09/al092017.public_a.003.shtml

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2017/al09/al092017.public_a.004.shtml

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2017/al09/al092017.public_a.005.shtml

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TROPICAL STORM HARVEY

23 Aug 2017

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2017/al09/al092017.public_a.012.shtml

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2017/al09/al092017.public_a.013.shtml

24 August 2017

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2017/al09/al092017.public_a.014.shtml

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2017/al09/al092017.public_a.015.shtml

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HURRICANE HARVEY

24 August 2017

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2017/al09/al092017.public_a.018.shtml?

ZCZC MIATCPAT4 ALL
TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM

BULLETIN
Hurricane Harvey Intermediate Advisory Number 18A
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL092017
700 PM CDT Thu Aug 24 2017

...HARVEY MOVING NORTHWESTWARD TOWARD THE TEXAS COAST...
...LIFE-THREATENING AND DEVASTATING FLOODING EXPECTED
NEAR THE COAST DUE TO HEAVY RAINFALL AND STORM SURGE...

[snip]

So if I understand your post correctly, Harvey existed, but was still a tropical wave on August 21st? That's probably why I never heard of it until after the eclipse. I rest my case.

It was a Tropical Wave until the 24th, three days after the eclipse.

Harvey was reported as a Tropical Storm on the 17th. It degenerated to a Tropical Wave on August 19th, two days BEFORE the eclipse. It redeveloped on August 23rd, two days AFTER the eclipse, intensified to a Tropical Storm on August 24th, three days AFTER the eclipse, and later on August 24th, intensified into Hurricane Harvey, three days AFTER the eclipse.

From two days before the eclipse, until three days after the eclipse, Harvey failed to be intense enough to qualify as a Tropical Storm.

My very bestest swag is that they failed to read the weather advisories issued by the National Hurricane Center.

I dont think that is the case at all. I for one, because I live on the water, and on a boat no less, I listen to the marine weather reports broadcast from the National weather Service for the Texas Gulf Coast (transmitted from Hitchcock TX) virtually everyday on my marine radio, and I never heard one word about Harvey until a day or so AFTER the eclipse. And before that if there were any weather reports about Harvey, I cant pick up any weather reports from the Carribbean so it is a moot point. So I'm pretty sure that most everyone in my area were completely in the dark about any tropical storm in the area until after the eclipse.

You need to get off whatever you are smoking.

For someone who claims to be so scholarly, you certainly seem to have a reading comprehension issue.

I did not say your claim was that 4 million babies were going to live 1000 years. But since you did not qualify which one of these 4,000,000 was going to live 1000 years, then your prediction that one of them would live that long would mean we would need to watch all 4 million to see if any of them would live 1000 years to verify your prediction as true. If only one does, you win, so proving you wrong on that prediction would be quite a formidable task. In fact, it's ultimately impossible as tracking them all is impossible. So you're safe.

And if hurricane Harvey formed before the eclipse, then how come no one knew about it?

Seeing how the name "Harvey" was bestowed upon it, it's safe to say that someone, somewhere, did know about it. Though I suppose it's possible these storms could be naming themselves somehow!

And as for someone somewhere knowing about Harvey, I am sure that is a true statement. But it is/was someone in the Carribbean area, probably NOAA (who I think are the guys who get to name hurricanes), and not anyone in Texas that I know of, or at least no one on the weather channels/ TV stations that I regularly listen to, who never mentioned one word about Harvey until the day after the eclipse. I have said that about 5 times now, and I am getting very tired of having to continuously repeat myself for you guys (and especially you) over and over again.

Barry M

Else I am probably going to quit talking to you, because I am up to my neck in alligators right now and dont have time for any of your nonsense or anyone else's.

Then it's *probably* time we wrap this up. I've better things to do as well.

Actually, if you had any reading comprehension at all, you would know that I predicted one baby born during the eclipse, and probably born in Tulsa, Oklahoma to parents who were there to pay their taxes, would/will live to be 1000 years old and I even specified that it would occur around high noon.

Key word: Probably.

Probably in Tulsa, and [probably] by inference, there to pay taxes. But if not in Tulsa, then were they elsewhere to pay taxes or elsewhere for any reason at all? That leaves a ton of leeway, and the way you've been claiming credit for things, "probably" is a big escape hatch.

To me, predictions are only worth as much as they can be proven wrong by future events, and yours cannot. Enough said. You can have last word if you want.

Anyhow, if my memory serves me correctly, your timetable is not quite correct. The tropical wave once called Harvey strayed down to Texas and began to regroup and strenghthen a bit during the eclipse, and within a day or so began to be mentioned for the first time ever on the local weather stations. And within a day or two it became a a full-fledged tropical storm, and then within a day or so it became full-fledged hurricane, and the next day it became a category 4 hurricane. It all happened pretty quick and surprised a lot of people, and I myself was very fortunate to be able to buy some gasoline for my car before all the gas stations ran out of gas, and then after a hell of a lot of rain that night (at least 14 to 15 inches in every city in the area) everything was closed the next day and everything is still closed. It all happened very quickly. And about 15 to 20 thousand people in low-lying areas have been rescued so far, often from their roofs, and total rainfall from the storm is expected to be 50 inches before its over, causing another 15 to 20 thousand to seek to be rescued. But only about half of the 911 callers are able to get through, and many many people have drowned. So there you have it, straight from the epicenter of the latest plague that God/ Mother Nature has sent upon the Earth.

And anyone who knows anything about history knows that most of the earth's earthshaking events have occurred during an eclipse. Everyone used to know that, but today that rather obvious fact (if there ever was one) is very often poo-pooed for some reason.

Barry Midyet

And anyone who knows anything about history knows that most of the earth's earthshaking events have occurred during an eclipse.

You are an ignorant asshole.

I do have to say that you do your homework/research before you post. But I still will have to dispute one of your points, and I suspect it is because you live in New York City or somewhere and I live right here in the epicenter of this event.

I have not called New York home for more than 50 years. I do not live any where near it. I live much closer to you.

I heard on the TV a few minutes ago that it is the 3rd 1000-year storm in 3 years. Think about that for a minute. Storms that used to occur once every thousand years are now occurring at least once a year (as I predicted in my book).

Yeah, not to mention how may times the press has declared the Crime of the Century, the Trial of the Century, the Fight of the Century, and so on and so forth. When is the last time anyone saw a news story about the fourth, fifth, or sixth biggest storm of the century?

Anyhow, if my memory serves me correctly, your timetable is not quite correct.

I assuredly did not go by memory.

The tropical wave once called Harvey strayed down to Texas and began to regroup and strenghthen a bit during the eclipse, and within a day or so began to mentioned for the first time ever on the local weather stations.

As I posted previously at #19,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Harvey

The eighth named storm, third hurricane, and the first major hurricane of the 2017 Atlantic hurricane season, Harvey developed from a tropical wave to the east of the Lesser Antilles, reaching tropical storm status on August 17. The storm crossed through the Windward Islands on the following day, passing just south of Barbados and later near Saint Vincent. Upon entering the Caribbean Sea, Harvey began to weaken due to moderate wind shear and degenerated into a tropical wave north of Colombia early on August 19. The remnants were monitored for regeneration as it continued west-northwestward across the Caribbean and the Yucatán Peninsula, before redeveloping over the Bay of Campeche on August 23. Harvey then began to rapidly intensify on August 24, regaining tropical storm status and becoming a hurricane later that day. While the storm moved generally northwestwards, Harvey's intensification phase stalled slightly overnight from August 24–25, however Harvey soon resumed strengthening and became a category 4 hurricane late on August 25. Hours later, Harvey made landfall near Rockport, Texas, at peak intensity.

That description conforms to the NOAA/NHC weather notices, of which I quoted one in its entirely and linked to nine more, indicating the storm status of the alerts, and the dates.

And within a day or two it became a a full-fledged tropical storm, and then within a day or so it became full-fledged huricane, and the next day it became a catagory 4 hurricane.

It became a tropical storm on 17 August. It fell below a tropical storm on 19 August. It became a tropical storm again on August 24. It became a Hurricane on 25 August. It is a matter of record.

It all happened pretty quick and surprised a lot of people, and I myself was very fortunate to be able to buy some gasoline for my car before all the gas stations ran out of gas, and then after a hell of a lot of rain that night (at least 14 to 15 inches in every city in the area) everything was closed the next day and everything is still closed. It all happened very quickly.

It was lower than a tropical storm from 19 Aug to 24 Aug. The eclipse was on 21 Aug. The storm started to regain strength on the 23 Aug and resumed tropical storm status the next day. Later that day, it became a hurricane for the first time.

For precise times, see the official times cited below.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Harvey

Harvey was downgraded to a tropical depression at 21:00 UTC on August 19; six hours later, based on continued data from a reconnaissance aircraft, it was declared an open tropical wave.

Early on August 20, the NHC began monitoring the remnants of Harvey for redevelopment. Although the effects of strong upper-level winds and dry air were expected to limit development in the near-term, conditions were expected to become more conducive to tropical storm and hurricane conditions when the disturbance entered the northwestern Caribbean Sea, and especially in the Bay of Campeche. Despite an increase in convective organization, the disturbance still lacked a well-defined center as it approached the Yucatán Peninsula. While traversing inland, satellite images and surface observations indicated that the circulation became better defined. A reconnaissance aircraft investigating the remnants of Harvey around 15:00 UTC on August 23 indicated that it once again acquired a well-defined center, and the NHC upgraded it to a tropical depression accordingly. The system began to slowly consolidate amid an increasingly favorable environment, attaining tropical storm intensity by 06:00 UTC on August 24.

Later that morning, Harvey began to undergo rapid intensification as an eye developed and its central pressure quickly fell. By 17:00 UTC, the storm was upgraded to the third hurricane of the season. Slight entrainment of dry air slowed the intensification process, however, by the next day, Harvey was able to quickly strengthen into a major hurricane by 19:00 UTC. Further deepening occurred as the storm approached the coast of Texas, with Harvey becoming a Category 4 hurricane at 23:00 UTC, based on reconnaissance aircraft data. Around 03:00 UTC on August 26, the hurricane made landfall at peak intensity at Rockport with winds of 130 mph (215 km/h) and an atmospheric pressure of 938 mbar (27.7 inHg).

Those times are UTC. Texas is on CDT and is UTC -5.

So there you have it, straight from the epicenter of the latest plague that God/ Mother Nature has sent upon the Earth. And anyone who knows anything about history knows that most of the earth's earthshaking events have occurred during an eclipse.

Well, this event did not occur during an eclipse. It was not even of tropical storm strength from two (2) days before the eclipse, to three (3) days after the eclipse.

I'm older than you and have lived through no earth shattering events or plagues during any eclipse, but I do recall Carol and Edna.

In 1954, the East Coast was especially naughty and Hurricane Carol (1-minute sustained wind, 115 mph) formed on August 25th and dissipated on September 1st.

Then Hurricane Edna (1-minute sustained wind, 125 mph) formed on September 2nd and dissipated on September 15th.

Carol caused 72 fatalities. Edna directly caused 20 fatalities, and 9 indirect.

And it is very evident that it all started with an eclipse, and any knowledgable student of history can tell you that most all earthshaking events were fulfilled during, or started during an eclipse. Do you want me to list them for you? If that is what you want, I can do that.

And as for 1000-year floods, a few years ago, it was a 500-year flood occurring every year. Now it is a 1000-year floods occurring every year. For God's sake, how much worse do things have to get before you become a believer and realize that God is unhappy with the US, and is punishing us just as He did with the Israelites?? We must repent and rejoin the Paris agreement for starters. Then we must repeal the 1965 Immigration Reform Act that let Muslims in. Then we must overturn the Same Sex Marriage decision and the Roe vs Wade decision for two other starters. Then, and only then, will we see the seven last plagues begin to be mitigated, and receive some relief.

Well, with you I am giving up (for now) because as usual you have done much much research and I have done none, but that is simply because I do not have any time to do any research on anything because I am in the middle of the biggest storm in recorded history.

Everything is bigger in Texas.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/441964/The-biggest-storm-in-history-batters-the-Philippines

The biggest storm in history batters the Philippines

A MONSTER 235mph “super typhoon” confirmed as the ­biggest storm in history was last night feared to have claimed thousands of lives.

By Nathan Rao
PUBLISHED: 00:01, Sat, Nov 9, 2013

Typhoon Haiyan ripped into the Philippines, forcing millions to flee their homes in terror.

The storm’s astonishing power ­unleashed giant 45ft waves, flooding coastal areas including tourist destinations with 16in of lashing rain.

[snip]

Can't touch those monster storms in the Pacific.

All I can do is go by memory and by my eyes and ears and what I am seeing and hearing even as I type this.

I don't know why your memory is all you can go on, when my post that you are responding to linked and quoted the official weather center data. Harvey failed to be a Tropical Storm from two days before the eclipse to three days after the eclipse.

That may be inconvenient for the eclipse caused it theory, but that is the breaks of Naval air.

And it is very evident that it all started with an eclipse, and any knowledgable student of history can tell you that most all earthshaking events were fulfilled during, or started during an eclipse. Do you want me to list them for you? If that is what you want, I can do that.

It is not obvious at all that earthshaking events almost always occur during an eclipse.

And as for 1000-year floods, a few years ago, it was a 500-year flood occurring every year. Now it is a 1000-year floods occurring every year. For God's sake, how much worse do things have to get before you become a believer and realize that God is unhappy with the US, and is punishing us just as He did with the Israelites?? We must repent and rejoin the Paris agreement for starters.

You do realize that claims of more than one 1,000 year storm every thousand years is an irrational claim. If there were such a storm every day, it would be a daily storm.

Weather happens. God does not cause storms, or touchdowns, or make footballs carom off goalposts to punish naughty kickers. Nor does He deflate Tom Brady's balls.

And honest to Buddha, spare us the Paris agreement.

Then we must repeal the 1965 Immigration Reform Act that let Muslims in. Then we must overturn the Same Sex Marriage decision and the Roe vs Wade decision for two other starters. Then, and only then, will we see the seven last plagues begin to be mitigated, and receive some relief.

I'm not sure why the Immigration and Nationality Act, amendments of 1965 has such high priority. I'll provide the content and you can identify the most seriously offending provision(s).

Well, heck, I uploaded to Scribd and their computer flagged it for a copyright violation. It's a Federal law, and a dumb computer program.

https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/STATUTE-79/pdf/STATUTE-79-Pg911.pdf

79 Stat. 911, H.R. 2580, P.L. 89-236 (3 Oct 1965). Immigration and Nationality Act, amendments.

I would be for overturning (not reversing) Obergefell and Roe. Those were issues best left to the States and of questionable Federal jurisdiction. However, it should be noted that this would result in States making up their own mind, and many had permitted abortion and gay marriage. Texas would be free to do its thing, and California could do its thing. Advocating Federal jurisdiction is advocating for Federal government authority to decide the issue for all. Look where that got us.

Then, and only then, will we see the seven last plagues begin to be mitigated, and receive some relief.

Oh noes, not this plague thing again. Why would an all-loving god punish all for the whimsical acts of the nine? The good of the many outweighs the whimsy of the few.

Oh noes, not this plague thing again. Why would an all-loving god punish all for the whimsical acts of the nine? The good of the many outweighs the whimsy of the few.

biblehub.com/kjv/matthew/24.htm

The storm in the Phillipines was also a 1000-year storm.

"You do realize that claims of more than one 1,000 year storm every thousand years is an irrational claim. If there were such a storm every day, it would be a daily storm."

No, it is not an irrational claim, and it is pretty much all reputable scientists who are saying that and I am just quoting them. And I'm pretty sure they are not irrational, and I don't understand why you or any rational person would say that. What they mean is, storms that used to occur once in a thousand years are now occurring every year. Sounds rational to me.

"Weather happens. God does not cause storms,"

That is not true and is just as irrational as your previous statement. But perhaps I should rephrase it for you and then you will understand where I am coming from. Mother Nature causes storms, and mother nature and God are pretty much one and the same.

"And honest to Buddha, spare us the Paris agreement."

Most irrational statement yet. What do you think is causing these 1000-year storms to come every year nowadays? At least 95% of it is man-made pollution, as almost all reputable scientists say, and about 5% of the cause is God's fury (I say).

"I'm not sure why the Immigration and Nationality Act, amendments of 1965 has such high priority. I'll provide the content and you can identify the most seriously offending provision(s)."

The most offending provision is the entire thing and the entire idea/reasoning behind it that caused such an abborition and has made God so very mad. Until 1965, only Judeo-Chritians were allowed into our nation (officially, but a few non-Christians/Muslims snuck in undetected, beginning with the African slaves some of which were Muslims). And that is how our founders, who wrote the original immigration laws, intended it to be forever.

Then LBJ came along, along with his followers/partners in crime in Congress and changed everything. Now we let in Muslims, atheists, Buddhists, anyone who wants to come. Since that year (1965), our nation has steadily gone down-hill. First, we took prayer out of schools (because they might offend the newcomers) and our schools went to hell. Then crime started increasing (a natural result of Godless schools).

Now let's fast forward a bit to today. We are being attacked almost daily (on our own soil) by Muslims and other non-believers, but Muslims mainly and we definitely need to ban them. But we cant (according to the stupid alt- left judge in San Francisco). The only leg the alt-left judges are standing on (legally) is the Immigration Reform Act of 1965 which says we have to let Muslims in. So we must immediately repeal it if our nation is to survive.

And I mean no offense to peaceful Buddhists like you who don't go around killing everybody, and when we get around to creating new immigration laws, I suppose we could make an exception for you guys.

More later..

The most offending provision is the entire thing and the entire idea/reasoning behind it that caused such an abborition and has made God so very mad.

I have come to the conclusion that God does not get angry. At all. Not even close.

When someone becomes very angry, say a co-worker, fried or family member, the common Christian response is something like "We need to pray for Joe. He's having a very bad day".

The reason for that kind of response is that we intuitively recognize that such a state of anger is a sign of distress, insecurity and ultimately, weakness. And clearly, the reason people get angry is because things happen to them that are out of their control which they once erroneously considered within their control. And that most certainly is a weakness.

So, if God gets angry at man, it could only be because God is insecure and weak, possessing a false sense of control over man, which quite naturally contradicts all the positive attributes ascribed to him of being infinitely wise, loving, and perhaps most intriguing of all (depending on ones faith, perhaps) completely knowledgeable of all each of us will ever do.

Please explain how God could or would become angry at us with anything we could possibly do when he knows in advance all that we will do, and why we will do those things?

No, God does not get angry and to suggest so is to suggest he is weak. The reason Christianity and many other major faiths portray God as subject to anger is simply because of the practice of something called "personification". That is when one attributes certain human qualities upon another thing. People get angry so people decided that God must get angry too. It's also a very convenient way for historic religious leaders and kings to control the masses, as few things can be more influential on behavior than convincing a people that an all powerful deity is going to eradicate them for all eternity to a place of eternal torment. If they don't behave.

No, God does not get angry. That's simply not possible, as the qualities of complete wisdom, love, patience and knowledge all prevent that. Of course this contradicts the standard Judeo-Christian thinking, but it's one point where Judeo-Christian thinking is wrong. Christianity is a good faith overall in terms of the morality it teaches, and people do well to subscribe to it. But on some doctrinal points such as the belief that God gets angry or has ever gotten angry, it is in error.

Calamity and tragedy do serve a very pragmatic purpose and are generally beneficial for us in spiritual terms. Unfortunately, most people cannot fathom how that could be, so in the natural human search for satisfying answers, "God must be angry with us" is a common erroneous explanation that humans have historically settled upon.

I am completely satisfied that God has no care one way or the other what laws a country decrees. Each of us are on this earth for the purpose of spiritual growth, and whatever circumstances or hardships we endure, even tragic ones, aid us in that growth. It's as simple as that.

Obviously you won't agree with this. Indeed, it's readily apparent that people have an enormous ability to believe what we wish to believe, up to and including the point of inventing myriads of explanations for why things are the way they are, and subscribing to them with utmost fervor. That certainly explains why there are such enormous differences between the major faiths. (But then again, perhaps I've simply invented that explanation to satisfy my own need for understanding).

The trick is to always be open minded about things, which is no small undertaking. And that's what I strive to do.

I live in SE Houston near Nasa. At 1900 on Saturday I put out a redneck rain gauge in my back yard. I was full Sunday morning at 0400. I emptied it. I has filled up 2 more times since.

I hear you bro. I live just a few miles down the road from you (in League City) and I dont have a rain guage at the moment, but wish I did. So 3 full rain guages, that would be about 15 to 18 inches? Santa Fe has been the hardest hit and I have a daughter living there (along with my son-n-law and two grand daughters, and they keep moving to higher ground but the flood, continuously getting higher, keeps finding them and there is now no place in Santa Fe that is safe. Me and my other daughter are planning on rescuing them today, somehow, some way. My other son-n-law has a big truck, and I have a boat, so I am praying that with God's help we can pull it off.

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As for your last remark, God is NOT an all-loving God. He hates a lot of things, and a lot of people (like ISIS for example), and we are repeated told in the Bible about the need to fear God and His wrath. And despite your view of things, God often punishes a whole nation or city, etc. for the sins of a few. He is like that sometimes if He gets mad enough, and we must constantly fear Him else we too will feel His wrath.

That is among of the stupidest remarks I have heard on this crazy site.

But of course. It contradicts everything you have come to believe is true, so to you, it is stupid.

You have to read the entire Bible bro.

Actually I already have. A couple times. But I am now convinced that the bible is simply a product of man, albeit a highly refined and artistic one, and does include some good things, particularly the new testament. And yes, it is revered by many as a holy book. But is it, in fact, the infallible and literal "Word of God"?

No, it isn't. And I cite my reasoning on my prior post as one type of proof. Contrary to what the bible claims, God cannot and does not get angry.

God is NOT an all-loving God. He hates a lot of things, and a lot of people (like ISIS for example), and we are repeated told in the Bible about the need to fear God and His wrath. And despite your view of things, God often punishes a whole nation or city, etc. for the sins of a few. He is like that sometimes if He gets mad enough, and we must constantly fear Him else we too will feel His wrath.

No. Just as with anger, God is most certainly far, far above and beyond hating anything, and he does not hate for the same reasons he does not get angry. Only weak people fall so short as to hate others, and God is not weak.

I am completely stocked up on distilled water

Don't drink it! Distilled water is lacking in ALL minerals and nutrients to sustain life. Spring water, etc. is what you want.

Use the distilled water to top off batteries, and in your humidor.

It is just the opposite. We are to be like God and not be passive, but strong.

We are to be strong in all ways. But sometimes, being strong means being passive.

Yes, we are supposed to love our personal enemies, but we are supposed to (i.e., commanded) to kill the enemies of Jesus and/or God. (See Luke 19:27) And Jesus commands us, if we do not have a gun, to sell the shirt off our back if need be and buy one. (Actually Jesus said sword but a gun is the modern equivalent)

Stated more accurately, the bible claims Jesus said this in one particular situation, which Jesus may or may not have actually said, and for whatever it would be worth if he did, whether at the time or to us today. But given that, even though some people claim to be enemies of God as they perceive him, God himself, due to his innate qualities, surely could not possibly have any enemies at all.

Your perception of God is not unlike a Muslim's perception of Allah. That is, a god who is so weak as to order the death of mere people who, in reality, could not pose any possible threat to him in any way whatsoever.

So no, God does not command us to kill anyone. To suggest otherwise is to underestimate God.

Don't drink it! Distilled water is lacking in ALL minerals and nutrients to sustain life. Spring water, etc. is what you want.

Thank you for that reminder of the need to maintain our Purity Of Essence.

Don't drink it! Distilled water is lacking in ALL minerals and nutrients to sustain life. Spring water, etc. is what you want.

Use the distilled water to top off batteries, and in your humidor.

Your post is so very very ironic, but also very very timely. The Bible says whoever drinks spring water or any kind of fresh water in the last days (meaning right about now) will become sickened from it and many people will die from it (last plague # 3). That means the only safe water to drink is distilled water, as I advise everyone on earth to do in my "2017 in Bible Prophecy" (found on the last page of my book, now out, called "The Revelation: A Historicist View." You may want to read it unless you want to be one of the many many people who die in 2017.

And many many people in my neck of the woods have died from the worst storm/ flood in recorded history, just as I predicted in my book (part of last plague # 4). And the Gulf of Mexico even as this is being written is being struck by the biggest fish kill / dead zone in history (at least in the history of the Gulf of Mexico) which is last plague #2. Everything I predicted is coming to pass, and most of it is taking place right here, right now even as this is being written.

The worst thing about is, I too might die right here right now (that is, by tomorrow) because, after several days of this, and being very close to running out of distilled water, I went to the only store that is open to buy some more distilled water, but the store was out of it, so against my better judgement I actually bought some Ozarka spring water (which I advised everyone on Earth not to do). But at the same time I also bought some beer so tonight I'm drinking beer. Tomorrow, or whenever I run out of beer I am going to be forced to drink some potentially very deadly spring water which I have already predicted will kill someone in 2017. Right now I am praying it is not me, but even if it is, and I fulfill my own prophecy, it is perfectly OK because I am ready to meet my maker whenever that time comes.

Stay tuned right here. If I make a post tomorrow it means I'm alive. If I don't it means I'm dead. But I am leaving it all in God's hands, and I am not worried about it in the least.

Then Satan won't be heard from again for a thousand years.

I get the impression I'm hearing from him now.

But things actually work far, far better than that. God is not so petty as to want to wage a war against his kids over silly religious ideology. You underestimate God enormously.

Oh noes, not this plague thing again. Why would an all-loving god punish all for the whimsical acts of the nine? The good of the many outweighs the whimsy of the few.

biblehub.com/kjv/matthew/24.htm

Invocation of the sky fairy does not provide evidence that storms are plagues sent by an angry, hateful sky fairy. Assuredly, it does not move the time that a storm became a hurricane three days back in time to have it occur during an eclipse. Or perhaps God is just slowing down and His hurricane, therefore, arrived three days after the eclipse. Perhaps it was just celestial clerical error.

"You do realize that claims of more than one 1,000 year storm every thousand years is an irrational claim. If there were such a storm every day, it would be a daily storm."

No, it is not an irrational claim, and it is pretty much all reputable scientists who are saying that and I am just quoting them.

No, you have not cited or quoted anyone, much less reputable scientists. This is rather like your appear to the authority of all the history books. You have yet to name a single applicable history book, even with all of them claimed to be applicable. In like manner, you have not actually named a single reputable scientist, while appealing to the authority of all of them.

"Weather happens. God does not cause storms,"

That is not true and is just as irrational as your previous statement. But perhaps I should rephrase it for you and then you will understand where I am coming from. Mother Nature causes storms, and mother nature and God are pretty much one and the same.

Mother Nature is not a sky wizard. People do not talk to the ceiling in an effort to commune with Mother Nature. Mother Nature is nature personified, sort of like Smokey the Bear.

"And honest to Buddha, spare us the Paris agreement."

Most irrational statement yet. What do you think is causing these 1000-year storms to come every year nowadays? At least 95% of it is man-made pollution, as almost all reputable scientists say, and about 5% of the cause is God's fury (I say).

You really have to stick that appeal to anonymous authority in Algore's Lockbox.

At least 95% of it is man-made pollution, as almost all reputable government sponsored scientists say

There, fixed it.

"I'm not sure why the Immigration and Nationality Act, amendments of 1965 has such high priority. I'll provide the content and you can identify the most seriously offending provision(s)."

The most offending provision is the entire thing and the entire idea/reasoning behind it that caused such an abborition and has made God so very mad. Until 1965, only Judeo-Chritians were allowed into our nation (officially, but a few non-Christians/Muslims snuck in undetected, beginning with the African slaves some of which were Muslims). And that is how our founders, who wrote the original immigration laws, intended it to be forever.

Then LBJ came along, along with his followers/partners in crime in Congress and changed everything. Now we let in Muslims, atheists, Buddhists, anyone who wants to come. Since that year (1965), our nation has steadily gone down-hill. First, we took prayer out of schools (because they might offend the newcomers) and our schools went to hell. Then crime started increasing (a natural result of Godless schools).

My appeal of the Scribd computer program report of copyright violation was upheld and I can provide the complete text of the 1965 Act,

Can you identify the specific content of the Act that you find most seriously offending, either by paragraph citation or quoting the provision? That may help to identify the "entire idea/reasoning behind it that caused such an abborition and has made God so very mad."

And I mean no offense to peaceful Buddhists like you who don't go around killing everybody, and when we get around to creating new immigration laws, I suppose we could make an exception for you guys.

I am hardly a peaceful Buddhist. I am retired military. Honest to Buddha is a time-honored military expression.

As faith is the strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof, appeal to one's personal belief absent proof is an appeal to authority not based on proof.

As for Roe, if we cannot succeed in overturning the whole thing, we definitely need (at the minimum) to overturn the part that allows partial-birth abortions and third trimester abortions when the baby is fully formed and fully capable of living outside the womb.

Can you please QUOTE the provision in Roe that you believe "allows partial-birth abortions and third trimester abortions when the baby is fully formed and fully capable of living outside the womb"?

That is murder (taking the life of another human being), pure and simple and there can be no debate, and no if ands or buts.

Murder is a man-made legal construct. If something is legal, it is not murder. Any act that does not meet the legal definition of murder, is not murder.

If Roe were overturned, states such as California could, and likely would, have lawful abortion on demand.

As for your last remark, God is NOT an all-loving God. He hates a lot of things, and a lot of people (like ISIS for example), and we are repeated told in the Bible about the need to fear God and His wrath. And despite your view of things, God often punishes a whole nation or city, etc. for the sins of a few.

Your God may be a hateful, wrathful, avenging God. You are free to believe whatever you want. Resort to your invisible friend when your attempt at rational/factual argument fails is not persuasive.

2 Peter 3King James Version (KJV)

3 This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:

2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:

3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:

6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:

7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,

12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.

15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;

16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.

18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.

For God's sake, all you have to do is watch ABC News, or CBS or NBC or any other reputable news source, or just Google it. I am not going to do it for you because I don't have the time to be constantly humoring you. BTW, it is no longer being called a 1000-year storm on some stations. It is now sometimes being called a 1500 to 2000 year storm because it is still going and is now plaguing Lousianna as well. And after that it is predicted to hit Mississippi as it goes on down the coast.

And the main reason I have not quoted any history textbooks that say what I said about the second coming of Jesus in 312AD is because none of them, not one, is currently in print because all school districts/ colleges in the US have replaced them with revisionist history. If you want to read one you are probably going to have to go to a used book store that specializes in very old textbooks. And I can assure you that none of them are on the internet, so that's not going to help you. That means you are going to have to do some serious digging/legwork on your own because I certainly dont have the time to do it for you. (But if you would for once be patient, I might do it for you after the big storm passes).

"Can you identify the specific content of the Act that you find most seriously offending, either by paragraph citation or quoting the provision? That may help to identify the "entire idea/reasoning behind it that caused such an abborition and has made God so very mad."

Well, I could but sorry I am not going to. That's for two very big reasons. First of all, all bills/laws passed by Congress are many many pages long and full of legalize that I or no one on earth except lawyers can possibly understand. Secondly, lest you forget, I am in the middle of the worst hurricane/ flood in recorded history and I am fighting for my life, and the life/ well being of my loved ones. So no, I am not about to humor you this time except to say, you read it, and you tell me what it says, and in plain English please and no legalize, and then I will consider responding on this issue.

"I am hardly a peaceful Buddhist. I am retired military. Honest to Buddha is a time-honored military expression."

I am also retired military and I have never ever heard that phrase before. But I do apologize if I falsely accused you of being a Buddhist. Sorry.

"As faith is the strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof, appeal to one's personal belief absent proof is an appeal to authority not based on proof."

Everything I say is based entirely on historical and scientific facts and not on any faith or myths because I don't have faith that there is a God, I know there is a God based entirely on historical and scientific facts. If something in the Bible does not agree with the facts, I cut it out of the Bible (literally and you should see my Bible if you don't believe me). But the vast majority of the Bible I have found to be 100% true.

I think we have to take heart from the fact that God has said he will not destroy the Earth again by water,

He didn't destroy the earth with the Flood. After all, it is still here and perking along nicely.

It does seem that He's planning to do us all by destroying the earth with fire someday though.

Like burning up in fire is so much nicer than a simple flood.

And the legal definition of murder should also be changed, and any other law if it disagrees with the Bible because that is what all English laws are supposed to be based on as everyone knows (except you apparently).