In a statement this week, California Attorney General Xavier Becerra put his stamp of approval on a movement to secede the Golden State from the rest of the union. As long as the separatists, known as CalExit, can round up 585,000 signatures for their petition in time, the attorney general has authorized them to put the initiative on the 2018 ballot.
If they are successful, Californians will be able to vote next November to decide whether or not their state should remain part of the United States or go free into the liberal LoonyLand as an independent, sovereign country unto itself. And while few analysts give the movement any hope of succeeding, the mere fact that its happening shows you that it only took one man Donald J. Trump to show these leftists how important it is for states to maintain their rights.
The new proposal, of course, is a bit weaker than the one that preceded it. It doesnt actually call on Californians to vote on secession; rather, it would give Californias liberal governor the mission of negotiating more autonomy from Washington, which may include a future ballot measure declaring full independence from the country. In other words, the new Calexit movement wants to set the stage for an odd have your cake and eat it too scenario where California will remain part of the union but will be a fully functioning sovereign and autonomous nation within that framework. How thats supposed to work, well have to wait and see. We think it basically means that California will continue to gratefully accept federal grant money but will politely decline to follow any federal guidelines, regulations, or laws. Should be quite the sight to behold.
As ridiculous as California has become in recent years and especially in recent months there is some cause to hope that their quest for secession will be successful.
This certainly need not lead to Civil War II: The Trumpening. Maybe this is simply an idea whose time has come. In the wake of the federal government growing more powerful and invasive than our Founders would have ever imagined, this enormous country of ours has begun to crack. And the reason well, part of the reason is that people in California are being forced to adopt the culture of southern Mississippi and vice versa. That was never supposed to be the case. We are united, yes, but we were never supposed to be a legally-homogenous culture from coast to coast. And in practical terms, we never will be.
Maybe Californians (and, in their own right, Texans) have a point. The next decade could bring some very interesting questions about the federal government and states rights to the forefront, and its probably not a bad thing for us to discuss.
Poster Comment:
Their tourist business has already begun to tank. The cities, with the possible exception of San Diego, and the rest, like San Fransissyco have become eyesores that are loaded with LGBTQs, illegal alien killers and rapists, homeless bums, a lesbian police chief, etc. et. etc. LA is lost forever.
In other words,they don't want to be a part of our country or to obey our laws,yet,they still want American tax-payers to support them. I say let them go,but don't give them a single penny of American money,for if they don't want to be Americans,that should put them in the same group as the illegals that they love so much,so they don't deserve any help. At the same time,they should be treated as a hostile foreign government and unable to get aid as a foreign country. They want their freedom,then let them have it and all that goes along with it,the loss of all federal money.
#1: Pinguinite To: IbJensen (#0)
On a practical note, as a coastal state with a huge amount of ocean shoreline, there's no doubt a huge amount of imports from the Pacific rim comes through CA. If CA succeeds, those imports to the rest of the USA would then be coming through a foreign country, and you can bet there would be taxes imposed for that privilege, until Oregon and Washington state can embellish their port facilities.
I imagine norther CA would respond by wanting to break away from southern CA and stay in the union.
But I'd certainly welcome a USA breakup. It's the only way to truly restore the principles the country was founded on.
Pinguinite posted on 2017-07-30 13:00:18 Reply Private Reply
#2: Tooconservative To: IbJensen (#0)
The author raises an interesting question: what if the role of the federal government was sharply curtailed across the nation? Would you end up with hard-Left Blue state coastal enclaves with the entire center of the nation being more hard-Right?
Maybe we shouldn't all be quite so involved in each others' business. There could be major advantages as well as some disadvantages.
Tooconservative posted on 2017-07-30 13:00:37 Reply Private Reply
#3: IbJensen To: Tooconservative (#2)
IbJensen posted on 2017-07-30 13:50:46 Reply Private Reply
#4: IbJensen To: Pinguinite (#1)
IbJensen posted on 2017-07-30 13:51:37 Reply Private Reply
#5: Pinguinite To: IbJensen (#4)
True, one can bet Mexico would begin licking it's chops if CA succeeded, particularly as CA has no 2nd Amendment backbone protecting the country. Of that's not even counting all the illegals that have been welcomed there anyway.
But hey, one cannot learn from mistakes if one is not permitted to make them. CA can vote to succeed from the US 5 years from now, and vote again to join Mexico about 20-30 years later.
Pinguinite posted on 2017-07-30 14:13:29 Reply Private Reply
#6: Stoner To: IbJensen (#0)
Stoner posted on 2017-07-30 14:29:41 Reply Private Reply
#7: Tooconservative To: IbJensen (#3)
If that was the general direction of legislation and the courts, we'd all have a lot less reason to worry or obsess over what is happening in other states.
After all, we are the United States, not the United State.
More federalism, please. And stop looking across your backyard fence and worrying about what your neighbor (state) is up to.
Tooconservative posted on 2017-07-30 14:34:44 Reply Private Reply
#8: rlk To: IbJensen (#0)
rlk posted on 2017-07-30 15:11:11 Reply Private Reply
#9: goldilucky To: IbJensen (#0)
goldilucky posted on 2017-07-30 23:44:33 Reply Private Reply
#10: IbJensen To: rlk (#8)
Many are doing that already.
IbJensen posted on 2017-07-31 06:47:39 Reply Private Reply
#11: IbJensen To: Stoner (#6)
IbJensen posted on 2017-07-31 06:53:16 Reply Private Reply
#12: IbJensen To: Pinguinite (#5)
If Californicate is allowed to leave the union, then how will history explain what happened to the south when they attempted secession. Perhaps they'll try it again, then all that will be left will be the northeast and two of the southwestern left wing states. This time the middle states will join with the south.
IbJensen posted on 2017-07-31 07:02:11 Reply Private Reply
#13: Stoner To: IbJensen (#11)
Yes, a terrible mistake. You know Congress would not change that. Wonder if Trump could correct that with an Executive Order ?
Stoner posted on 2017-07-31 07:49:12 Reply Private Reply
#14: IbJensen To: Stoner (#13)
If only that were possible. If so, it would turn things around in that rotten Congress real fast!!!!
IbJensen posted on 2017-07-31 10:00:03 Reply Private Reply