Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) is calling for a debate on rolling back authorizations for the use of military force that began during the George W. Bush administration.
Paul objected to a consent request from Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., to begin defense authorization debate. Paul wants to offer amendments to the defense policy bill.
According to a Tweet from Pauls senior strategist, Doug Stafford, one of Pauls amendments would seek to end the Authorization for Use of Military Force.
Senator Rand Paul requested two bipartisan amendments, one on ending indefinite detention and one on AUMFs, Stafford said.
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He looks forward to working with leadership and the committee to get this done soon. What he got last night were vague promises, which have been ignored for several years on this bill. So he objected while it is worked out, Stafford concluded.
Paul has consistently stated that the congressional authority of war must be restored, introducing an amendment to the 2016 defense spending bill stating that a President cannot use vague, out-of-date authorities to send our troops to war.
One generation cannot bind another generation to perpetual war, Paul said in a 2016 op-ed for Time magazine. Our Constitution mandates that war be authorized by Congress. Period.
My colleagues who have taken an oath to uphold the Constitution should support my amendment or at least have the decency to debate it, Paul wrote.
Think about it for a moment, Paul said. These original authorizations were passed back when some of the men and women fighting in our current conflicts were still small children. No presidentincluding this presidentdeserves this kind of extra-constitutional power.
The sacrifice we ask of our soldiers also deserves more respect. Re-examining the proper legal relationship over congressional vs. executive authority is long overdue, Paul insisted.
Senator McCain, on the other hand, was not pleased with Pauls objection.
For 55 years in a row, Congress has passed the National Defense Authorization Act, which provides our men and women in uniform with the resources, capabilities, and pay and benefits that they need to perform their missions on behalf of the American people and keep our country safe, McCain said in a press release on Friday. This legislation is more vital than ever. Global terrorist networks, increasing great power competition with Russia and China, malign Iranian influence spreading across the Middle East, a North Korean dictator racing to acquire missiles that can hit the United States with nuclear weaponsthe threats to our national security have not been more complex or daunting than at any time in the past seven decades.
It is unfortunate that one senator chose to block consideration of a bill our nation needs right now, McCain continued. We must uphold our solemn obligation to provide for the common defense and give our men and women in uniform the training, equipment, and resources they need to defend the nation. Our brave service members many now serving in harms way deserve nothing less, McCain concluded.
Poster Comment:
I thought that's what the Senate was supposed to do -- debate bills before they pass them. D'oh!
#1: Tooconservative To: Anthem (#0)
The Stain says this only a day after he alone blocked any chance at repealing 0bamaCare (for which he voted regularly back when 0bama was in office).
Can't the Stain just die already?
On the substance, Rand is right. They are still using the old AUFs from the Bush era after 9/11, just like 0bama did when he used those 9/11 AUFs to wade into the final destruction of Libya as a functioning nation.
The Stain would probably just prefer that we have have a permanent declared war on Planet Earth. That is his fundamental position. And he's such a whiny bitch when anyone points it out.
Tooconservative posted on 2017-07-29 17:44:53 Reply Private Reply
#2: A Pole To: Anthem (#0)
McCain wants war with Russia and China without authorisation by Congress. This will be his legacy.
A Pole posted on 2017-07-29 18:06:16 Reply Private Reply
#3: A Pole To: Tooconservative (#1)
A Pole posted on 2017-07-29 18:09:29 Reply Private Reply
#4: misterwhite To: Tooconservative (#1)
Words fail me.
misterwhite posted on 2017-07-29 18:37:49 Reply Private Reply
#5: Tooconservative To: misterwhite, A Pole (#4)
Stain is very afraid that his efforts to turn this civil war in Syria into WW III are in jeopardy.
In the end, Rand will probably introduce his defense bill amendments and they'll get voted down again. However, we can still hope that McStain will have a stroke and die on the Senate floor as his own personal final filibuster.
Tooconservative posted on 2017-07-29 19:10:01 Reply Private Reply
#6: misterwhite To: Anthem (#0)
Hah! Congress is petrified that voters might hold them accountable for anything they vote on, with "going to war" being their least favorite action.
misterwhite posted on 2017-07-29 20:03:35 Reply Private Reply
#7: Stoner To: Tooconservative (#5)
More likely, have a stroke while he & Graham are in the sack. Only question, is who will be on top, and who on bottom, LOL !!!
Stoner posted on 2017-07-29 20:36:34 Reply Private Reply
#8: misterwhite To: Tooconservative (#5)
I'm guessing that's the real reason Rand offered the amendments.
misterwhite posted on 2017-07-29 21:30:44 Reply Private Reply
#9: interpreter To: Anthem (#0)
interpreter posted on 2017-07-29 23:13:40 Reply Private Reply
#10: Deckard To: Stoner (#7)
Thanks for the repulsive, nausea-inducing image pal.
Excuse me, I need to go throw up.
Deckard posted on 2017-07-29 23:38:24 Reply Private Reply
#11: nolu chan To: Tooconservative, Anthem (#1)
Note that the scope of the actual AUMF is limited to Iraq.
AUMF, 16 Oct 2002, HJ Res 114, PL 107-323, 116 Stat 1498
nolu chan posted on 2017-07-30 00:59:49 Reply Private Reply
#12: Tooconservative To: nolu chan, Anthem (#11)
That was the Iraq AUMF (which they are also still using).
The big one is the original one after 9/11.
Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Terrorists, 9/14/2001
"According to a report by the Congressional Research Service, published May 11, 2016, at that time the 2001 AUMF had been cited 37 times in connection with actions in 14 countries and on the high seas. The report stated that "Of the 37 occurrences, 18 were made during the Bush Administration, and 19 have been made during the Obama Administration." The countries that were mentioned in the report included Afghanistan, Cuba (Guantanamo Bay), Djibouti, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Georgia, Iraq, Kenya, Libya, Philippines, Somalia, Syria and Yemen."
Preamble
Joint Resolution
To authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against those responsible for the recent attacks launched against the United States.
Section 1 Short Title
This joint resolution may be cited as the 'Authorization for Use of Military Force'.
Section 2 Authorization For Use of United States Armed Forces
(a) IN GENERAL- That the President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons.
(b) War Powers Resolution Requirements-
Like I said, Rand is right. It's like they are trying to still use FDR's declaration of war against Japan to keep fighting wars around the world.
Rand has tried to stop this before. How long do they get away with starting fresh wars based on an anti-terrorism AUMF, passed in the shock of attack only 3 days after 9/11, to use the military in unrelated actions all over the world that have no connection to the 9/11 attack?
Of course the Stain is opposed to any requirements of a president to come to Congress to derive authority for his war powers. Just use that old one that they cobbled together 15 years ago for 9/11 revenge and use it to attack anywhere and everywhere.
Tooconservative posted on 2017-07-30 02:30:16 Reply Private Reply
#13: Stoner To: Anthem (#0)
TFB !!!!
Stoner posted on 2017-07-30 15:11:21 Reply Private Reply
#14: nolu chan To: interpreter, Anthem (#9)
Songbird McCain would have us fight eternal war, making the MIC incredibly wealthy and powerful, while greatly weakening the country with $20T in debt.
What has been the military mission in the expensive wars we have been fighting? We freed Iraq from non-existent WMD? What did we accomplish there or elsewhere with total military victory?
nolu chan posted on 2017-08-01 05:30:04 Reply Private Reply
#15: Hondo68 To: interpreter, tater, weakest on defense, insane too, *Neo-Lib Chickenhawk Wars* (#9)
If you and Gatlin had succeeded in electing McCain president in '08, you'd now be speaking Chinese, and Alaska and Canada would be speaking Russian.
Hondo68 posted on 2017-08-01 07:36:21 Reply Private Reply