We went to the Fitzgerald residence just hours after the shooting. Our entire time there, the front door was open and the glass door was closed, just as it was earlier in the afternoon. We entered and exited through the door with no problem what-so- ever. There was no apparent damage to the door, or the latch.

This one taken before the shooting or after the shoot when the door had been repaired….shows the storm door with the window and screen intact.

This one taken when the do way laying dead on the porch with blood everywhere shows the bottom window and screen broken trhough.

Either someone’s lying or the pictures are lying….which do you think?

Either someone’s lying or the pictures are lying….which do you think?

Well, at least there is some misreporting. Maybe to help gin up a clickbait headline on a cop-hater site.

You've probably noticed that "Beware Of The Dog" sign that I mentioned on the door by now. If Midnite was such a well-trained and non-aggressive dog, why did he post that sticker?

When has a fence ever stopped a crazed cop from shooting a family pet?

Heartbroken Salt Lake City man berates cops after they shoot dog in back yard

Cops Show Up To Wrong House And Shoot Little Boy’s Dog

Stop trying to change the subject. We are discussing this guy and his dog in Augusta KS. Not anyone else.

You're trying to conflate those other incidents with this one. It doesn't work.

One thing I noticed immediately was that Midnite would still be alive if his owner had loved his dog enough to build a small yard fence.

When has a fence ever stopped a crazed cop from shooting a family pet?

Countless times….when a family pet pit bull was completely docile and not attacking a cop.

But, of course….The Free Through Project never reports that….does it?

Stop trying to change the subject. We are discussing this guy and his dog in Augusta KS. Not anyone else.

Your contention that a fence would have saved Midnite was a supposition on your part.

I merely pointed out your misconception.

When has a fence ever stopped a crazed cop from shooting a family pet? Heartbroken Salt Lake City man berates cops after they shoot dog in back yard

Cops Show Up To Wrong House And Shoot Little Boy’s Dog

Stop trying to change the subject. We are discussing this guy and his dog in Augusta KS. Not anyone else.

You're trying to conflate those other incidents with this one. It doesn't work.

He does that all the time.

His next post will probably contain 5 links on an unrelated topic.

That’s always an indication that he has given up trying to prove any point he though he may have had.

That’s always an indication that he has given up trying to prove any point he though he may have had.

I'm not sure that merely trying to change the subject is tantamount to an admission but you have to keep it in mind.

Posting another half-dozen anti-cop/anti-gooberment articles in the sidebar might be a way to try to change the subject but I can't say that is the only reason to post so many at once.

Stop trying to change the subject. We are discussing this guy and his dog in Augusta KS. Not anyone else. Your contention that a fence would have saved Midnite was a supposition on your part.

I merely pointed out your misconception.

Sure you did …

And you tried to divert away from the primary conversation by adding:

Heartbroken Salt Lake City man berates cops after they shoot dog in back yard

Cops Show Up To Wrong House And Shoot Little Boy’s Dog

Both of which are off topic …

Stop lying….it’s getting old stuff.

That’s always an indication that he has given up trying to prove any point he though he may have had.

I've made my point - this cop (as well as most others who shoot family pets) are cowards.

Both of which are off topic …

Sod off tosser.

I responded to Tc's claim that Midnite would be alive if he had been fenced in.

History has proven that cops will kill family pets even when they are fenced in.

I've made my point - this cop (as well as most others who shoot family pets) are cowards.

You have made no point….you have made a complete idiot of yourself.

History has proven that cops will kill family pets even when they are fenced in.

That's another lie....history has not proven that.

You have made no point….

So sayeth LF's village idiot.

I made my point - you are just too much of a simpleton to understand it.

History has proven that cops will kill family pets even when they are fenced in.

That's another lie....history has not proven that.

I gave four examples you reprehensible assclown.

One can only hope that if you have a dog, you suffer the same sad fate as this Veteran.

ne can only hope that if you have a dog, you suffer the same sad fate as this Veteran.

That’s a very uncivil and inconsiderate wish to make on someone.

But since when have you ever been civil and considerate.

Your remark reflects poorly on your upbringing …

That’s a very uncivil and inconsiderate wish to make on someone.

Not at all - It would be ironic if you suffered at the hands of the Amerikan police state, the one that you so slavishly worship.

Your remark reflects poorly on your upbringing …

Why don't you reflect on your own multitude of faults before presuming to lecture someone else?

Here are a couple of your friendly family pets in action …

To quote Tc...Stop trying to change the subject. We are discussing this guy and his dog in Augusta KS. Not anyone else

The dogs in your videos have nothing to do with this story.

Oh, and while you're at it - sod off.

In the bottom pic the lower sliding glass window is raised all the way up, and the screen is partially punched out with the retaining bead hanging.

The cop went in and beat the dog with a baton and kicked it repeatedly and then shot it, so the dog punched through the screen to escape, and expired on the porch.

Most of the blood is in the top right, so someone may have moved the body to get the door to open further.

I might have to sleep on that decision.

" One can only hope that if you have a dog, you suffer the same sad fate as this Veteran. "

Deck, I would not wish that on the dog. He/she is suffering enough to live there. Wish it on him/her, not the dog.

In the bottom pic the lower sliding glass window is raised all the way up, and the screen is partially punched out with the retaining bead hanging.

I noticed too. Not sure how many conclusions we can draw.

The cop went in and beat the dog with a baton and kicked it repeatedly and then shot it, so the dog punched through the screen to escape, and expired on the porch.

Yeah but there is no mention or pix of blood inside the house. So I don't think so.

I do have to give you points for imagination.

KWCH12: Alan tells me the previous incident with Midnite - the dog bit his teenage nephew at El Dorado lake last summer, and the teen had to get stitches but was okay.

Hmm...that doesn't sound like a trained service animal to me.

It seems that "Beware Of The Dog" sign on the front door was there for a reason: a known aggressive biting dog was on the premises.

I notice the police chief said they couldn't find a record of any state certification of the dog as a service animal. So it isn't clear if this was a lawful service animal or if he just had some training but didn't get certified (because he was too busy biting kids and cops to finish getting certified).

Apparently, Kansas has a law against claiming a dog is a service dog unless the dog is fully certified. The chief says they're investigating and hasn't ruled out filing charges on the service dog certification issue.

Seemed a fitting background sound.

In the "interview", the guy sounds guilty. He didn't protect his dog and he didn't control his dog. I bet this dog has a lot more history than these articles are telling us.

At 1:02 Alan stated this dog darted out the door [to chase a rabbit or cat]….so the dog had charged through the door before.

In a newspaper report [and I can’t find where again] a police officer said they had trouble there (at Alan’s residence) before (did no say with the dog). as best as I remember.

This is obviously confirmed [that the police had been to the Firzgerald residence before] because at 5:07 Alan Fitzgerald said: There was a private call coming through on his phone. I knew it as them because they always call that way. I repeat, Alan said: I knew it as them because they always call that way. I wonder if the police “always call that way” because of a problem with the dog, a problem with Alan’s PTSD, or another problem with Alan or someone else at the residence. So, this would indicate that Alan and the police were no strangers to each other….that is an apparent conclusion.

At 3:43 Alan said he heard banging on his door and then he heard shots. I did not pause between those two statements. So, there is no way of know the time line between the knock and the shots. The way Alan told the story makes me question the neighbor’s eyewitness statement that the police officer opened the door and went in.

I bet this dog has a lot more history than these articles are telling us.

I just posted someting below to indicate that same thing.

Interesting....

It seems, by his own admission, he was no stranger to the police.

"I knew it was them, they always call that way."

"I knew it was them, they always call that way."

Exactly. Notice the mention of the chief when he said they sent a cop with an animal control officer because in one (or more) previous calls to that address, a lone animal control officer wasn't enough.

Maybe the animal control officer in this dinky burg knew this dog and had good cause to be afraid of him.

I notice the police chief said they couldn't find a record of any state certification of the dog as a service animal. So it isn't clear if this was a lawful service animal or if he just had some training but didn't get certified (because he was too busy biting kids and cops to finish getting certified).

I came to the conclusion some time ago, that people throw the term "service dog" around far too loosely.

This was a service dog - they are trained to be non-aggressive.

Fitzgerald rescued Midnight in 2015 and obtained an ADA service dog certificate, which required the dog to pass behavioral tests without showing signs of aggression, and said he had Midnite for his PTSD.

Hey, Deckard, listen to the video in the link, you will hear …

KWCH12: Alan tells me the previous incident with Midnite - the dog bit his teenage nephew at El Dorado lake last summer, and the teen had to get stitches but was okay.

Well, Bubba….that DEBUNKS the Hell out of your “service dog trained to be non-aggressive bullshit….doesn’t it?

You are so pathetic….always defending a lost cause, only because you hate the police so much that you can never be objective about anything involving them.

You also noticed that Alan said there was absolutely no problem with the neighbor lady and Midnite.

However, the Chief said they received a call about a German Sheppard running loose and Alan said 2 hours after he talked to the lady….the police was banging on his door.

Who else but the lady could have called? Maybe someone, but my guess would be that it was the lady and Alan was skipping some details about the incident of Midnight with her dog.

Who else but the lady could have called?

In fairness, every neighborhood does have at least one Gladys Kravitz snooping around, calling the cops out on their neighbors. The little dog owner may not have done anything.

After all, we know this dog did love to chase cats around in the neighborhood, according to his owner's confession on YouBoob. Maybe one of the cat owners called the cops out.

I find numerous sources on the Web where you can self-register your dog as a “service dog” and they will send you an ID Card after receiving payment.

Service dog fraud on the rise

That’s Not a Service Dog, But It Is a Working Dog

According this information, he does NOT have a service dog.

He has an …

Emotional Support Animal (ESA) work with an individual who needs comfort. They require no specialized training, have no public access, and can be any species. The DOJ/HUD’s Fair Housing Act does protect an owner’s right to reside with their Emotional Support Animal in accommodations that don’t allow pets, and with proper documentation, a person can fly with their ESA.

I notice the police chief said they couldn't find a record of any state certification of the dog as a service animal. So it isn't clear if this was a lawful service animal or if he just had some training but didn't get certified (because he was too busy biting kids and cops to finish getting certified).

Apparently, Kansas has a law against claiming a dog is a service dog unless the dog is fully certified. The chief says they're investigating and hasn't ruled out filing charges on the service dog certification issue.

What he has is …

An Emotional Support Animal (ESA) works with an individual who needs comfort. They require no specialized training, have no public access, and can be any species. The DOJ/HUD’s Fair Housing Act does protect an owner’s right to reside with their Emotional Support Animal in accommodations that don’t allow pets, and with proper documentation, a person can fly with their ESA.

[….]

“Service dog” means a dog which has been specially selected, trained and tested to perform a variety of tasks for persons with disabilities. These tasks include, but are not limited to: Pulling wheelchairs, lending balance support, picking up dropped objects or providing assistance in, or to avoid, a medical crisis, or to otherwise mitigate the effects of a disability.

The presence of a dog for comfort, protection or personal defense does not qualify a dog as being trained to mitigate an individual’s disability and therefor does not qualify the dog as an assistance dog covered under the provisions of this act.

[….]

FRAUDULENT REPRESENTATION
It is a class A nonperson misdemeanor for any person to:
- represent that such person has the right to be accompanied by an assistance dog or that such person has a right to be accompanied by a professional therapy dog
- represent that such person has a disability for the purpose of acquiring an assistance dog unless such person has such disability.
[Assistance dog” means any guide dog, hearing assistance dog or service dog].

I think I read that he already received 2 citations….with Chief checking on his “service dog qualification” he may be receiving another.

Kinda of a backdoor get to take my animal anywhere and you can not object! Landlord you can not say a damn thing but you still are liable for aggressive dogs actions!!!

I thought to get certified as a "service dog" you had to have real training but I guess not.

Fitzgerald rescued Midnight in 2015 and obtained an ADA service dog certificate, which required the dog to pass behavioral tests without showing signs of aggression...

Fitzgerald rescued Midnight in 2015 and obtained an ADA service dog certificate, which required the dog to pass behavioral tests without showing signs of aggression, and said he had Midnite for his PTSD.

Someone is lying. I know you think so but people do not go around shooting nice dogs just because they feel like it.

I was thinking that this story of a service dog being aggressive sounded funny to me. Looked it up and all you have to do from what I have seen is just fill out paperwork and you can get any animal certified. I thought to get certified as a "service dog" you had to have real training but I guess not. This is a landlord, business owner and insurance nightmare.

I too became intrigued while participating on this thread to learn about service dogs since I basically only knew there were such animals used for special purposes. I found the same as you did and also discovered a hundred or so places online where all you do is fill out a form and pay money to register a dog in 3 or 4 different “Assistant Dog” categories. Because of the ongoing discussion on this thread, I concentrated on Kansas for information and found sites with some good info….including one with the Kansas law.

What I found to be ironic is that you need no identification to show a dog is an assistance dog and legally no one can ask you for anything to show identification or certification. All you need do is say the magic words “this is a service dog” and all businesses must let you in with your dog. I also found out a business owner can kick your dog out only if it becomes unruly disruptive or if it is not house broken then pisses or shits in the business establishment.

I discovered something to be true that I have long suspected. While the original intended purpose of assistant dogs were necessary and noble, starting with the dogs who assist the blind, I find the concept has now been prostituted….as was the “handicap parking” procedure also prostituted. I feel sure you have seen as many situations as I have where assholes took dogs that one could see definitely did not qualify as assistant dogs into restaurants and food stores when they should not have….and spry young people placing a handicap placard on the mirror of their vehicle, only the then jump out and run into a store.

Yes, it is definitely as you say: “This is a landlord, business owner and insurance nightmare.”

Yes, it is definitely as you say: “This is a landlord, business owner and insurance nightmare.”

If I could show you want renters do nobody would ever say a thing about slum lords. Then you add in the mix of animals and you can double the trouble. Here in Texas it takes a court order to get people out of the house and the renter can tear the house to pieces before they leave and you can only take a deadbeat to court to get your money back. But since they are deadbeats you lose the damage, court fee's and lawyer fee's. Couple of bad renters back to back and you can lose it all.

Don't even get me to talk about Handicap parking which is no more than quick in and out for people of certain groups who steal parking permits so they do not have to park a mile away from the store like the rest of honest hard working Americans!

I thought to get certified as a "service dog" you had to have real training but I guess not.

Fitzgerald rescued Midnight in 2015 and obtained an ADA service dog certificate, which required the dog to pass behavioral tests without showing signs of aggression...

You can do your fact checking in the U.S. Department of Justice - Civil Rights Division - Disability Rights Section – ADA Requirements Service Animals. These requirements, or rules, clarify and refine issues that have arisen over the past 20 years and contain new, and updated, requirements, including the 2010 Standards for Accessible Design (2010 Standards).

You will find in that link, their bold print on how a “Service Animal” is defined, it reads: ”Service animals are defined as dogs that are individually trained to do work or perform tasks for people with disabilities.”

You will find nowhere, nowhere, in the U.S. Department of Justice - Civil Rights Division - Disability Rights Section – ADA Requirements Service Animals has it required the dog to pass behavioral tests without showing signs of aggression... as Ben Keller proclaimed and you so boldy repeated with bold print and underline.

In fact, if you check [and I will not take time right now to look it up for you]….you will find that an ADA service dog can be trained as an attack dog….I kid you not.

You need to stop believing everything someone posts on the Internet and parroting what they say….again, you need to start fact checking.

So, asshole, you lose again….you have been debunked royally by a “Gold Member” of the famous “Canary Clan.”

I find numerous sources on the Web where you can self-register your dog as a “service dog” and they will send you an ID Card after receiving payment.

Service dog fraud on the rise

That article surprises me. I knew there was some fraud, as there is with handicapped parking tags, but not on such a scale.

FRAUDULENT REPRESENTATION It is a class A nonperson misdemeanor for any person to: - represent that such person has the right to be accompanied by an assistance dog or that such person has a right to be accompanied by a professional therapy dog

Nice sleuthing through the statutes.

I thought to get certified as a "service dog" you had to have real training but I guess not. This is a landlord, business owner and insurance nightmare.

That was what service dogs were supposed to be. But they rapidly expanded it so people can have service parrots, service ferrets, service iguanas, etc.

Fitzgerald rescued Midnight in 2015 and obtained an ADA service dog certificate, which required the dog to pass behavioral tests without showing signs of aggression...

Apparently, he didn't pass the no-biting-teenage-nephews-at-the-lake test.

you will find that an ADA service dog can be trained as an attack dog…

WTF?

Now you are claiming that the dog was agressive simply because SOME service dogs MAY be trained to attack?

Man - you've lost what's left of your senile mind.

So, asshole...

Hey - go fuck yourself.