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Though the Freedom Caucus is under assault from all sides, some of its members who have spoken to the media or made public statements are standing strong insisting that they are willing to work with President Trump to keep the GOPs promise to repeal Obamacare. The media has used the failure of the American Health Care Act Republican leaderships phony repeal bill as an excuse to attack conservatives in Congress. The Tea Party members of the Freedom Caucus, who opposed the legislation on grounds that it would not improve the American health insurance market, have been labeled hardliners who are unwilling to compromise or get things done. President Trump has expressed his frustration with the health insurance bills failure in a series of tweets, first suggesting that the Freedom Caucus saved Planned Parenthood funding and Obamacare, and later announcing that if conservatives dont hop aboard the establishment Republican agenda they will be fought in 2018. The Freedom Caucus will hurt the entire Republican agenda if they don't get on the team, & fast. We must fight them, & Dems, in 2018! the president tweeted. Some members of the House Freedom Caucus are pushing back on President Donald Trumps threat to fight conservatives in the 2018 midterm primary elections. "It didn't take long for the swamp to drain [Trump]. No shame, Mr. President. Almost everyone succumbs to the D.C. Establishment," Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.) tweeted.
Freedom Caucus ally Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) also joined in.
So did Rep. Labrador:
Other Freedom Caucus conservatives are being less confrontational. Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) reiterated his support for actual repeal of Obamacare, and said he shared the presidents frustration with recalcitrant Republicans in Washington D.C.
"The Freedom Caucus is trying to change Washington. This bill keeps Washington the same, plain and simple," Rep. Jordan said on Fox News Thursday. "We appreciate the president; we are trying to help the president. But the fact is, you have to look at the legislation. It doesn't do what we told the voters we were going to do, and the American people understand that. That's why only 17 percent of the population supports this legislation." We want to help the president get a bill that rises above 17% in the polling, Congressman Dave Brat (R-Va.) told Conservative Review. He said the Freedom Caucus is looking for a bill that will lower premiums by repealing the insurance regulations and mandated health benefits that are driving up the cost of health insurance. Brat also criticized the mainstream media narrative that the Freedom Caucus sunk Obamacare repeal. The narrative by the elites and the D.C. cronies and the mainstream media is that we cant get to yes. On the facts thats false, Brat said. We voted yes 50 times for repeal. And the 2015 bill was unanimous, basically, with Republicans in the House and the Senate. Rep. Brat argues that the Freedom Caucus has compromised from voting for that 2015 full repeal of Obamacare to nearly supporting the American Health Care Act, kind of an Obamacare federal structure that maintains the basic architecture of Obamacare. The idea that we havent moved considerably is just laughable, Brat said. Further, it was clear to Leadership that more moderates were going to vote no if that bill came to the floor than the Freedom Caucus. But that narrative is not as convenient. Once that vote hit 22 Noes it was going to go to 60 or 70, is the best estimate. Why then are moderates like Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-Il.) claiming the Freedom Caucus killed Obamacare repeal? Theyre just being politically shrewd, Brat said. The mainstream media, of course, goes along with that narrative that it's these conservative guys fault. Its the usual D.C. narrative. A narrative that President Trump has bought into. But Freedom Caucus conservatives arent the only ones making Brats point. Congressman Tom Emmer (R-Minn.) who is not a member of the Freedom Caucus told PJ media that there were probably ten to fifteen members of the Freedom Caucus that were still a no. However, Emmer estimated that there were two-thirds to three-quarters of the Freedom Caucus [who] were yes on this bill. A vast majority. This media narrative blaming the Freedom Caucus is intentional, Emmer said. Marginalizing conservatives is exactly what the moderate Republicans in the Tuesday Group have decided to do. Rep. Chris Collins (R-N.Y.), who was the first member of Congress to endorse President Trump, told reporters today that the Freedom Caucus no longer has a seat at the table for negotiations on legislation.
These moderate Republicans refused to go along with a full repeal of Obamacare, and now they are pledging to work with liberal Democrats to pass bad bills rather than use the Republican majority to pass conservative legislation. Its compromise with Democrats. Screw the conservatives. Pass liberal legislation that will hurt people. And President Trump is fine with all of it. This is not what the conservative base in the Republican Party voted for in 2016. Then again, actually it is. The Tea Party took this risk when they handed Trump the Republican nomination in 2016. Donald Trump was never a conservative. He was never anti-establishment. Some conservatives knew that when they held their nose to beat Hillary Clinton. Well, the Democrats are out of power and conservatives are still losing. So where do we go from here? |
NOT backing down: Freedom Caucus stands strong amid attacks from the president
| Source: | Conservative Review |
| Published: | Mar 31, 2017 |
| Author: | Chris Pandolfo |
| Post Date: | 2017-03-31 15:43:00 by Tooconservative |
| Views: | 7191 |
#1: rlk To: Tooconservative (#0)
Let's hope the public doesn't back down from getting rid of the sons of bitches next election.
rlk posted on 2017-03-31 15:59:21 Reply Private Reply
#2: Hondo68 To: Tooconservative (#0)
Trump is a NYC libtard.
Hondo68 posted on 2017-03-31 16:49:25 Reply Private Reply
#3: Willie Green To: Tooconservative (#0)
Louie Gohmert is a dick with ears...
Willie Green posted on 2017-03-31 17:03:59 Reply Private Reply
#4: Tooconservative To: Willie Green (#3)
Does that make any sense at all?
Gohmert is a new Freedom Caucus member but he certainly is not shy. Gohmert is very popular in Texas and around the country with conservatives. There aren't all that many House members that are as well-known. Guys like Trey Gowdy and Steve King have a similar national profile within the party though they probably are both just a bit better known than Gohmert is.
Tooconservative posted on 2017-03-31 17:22:07 Reply Private Reply
#5: Gatlin To: Tooconservative (#4)
Well, hold on there a minute, hoss .Gohmert is not popular with everyone in Texas
Dont blame Trump for healthcare defeat blame Louie Gohmert.
Gatlin posted on 2017-03-31 23:06:51 Reply Private Reply
#6: Gatlin To: Tooconservative (#4)
Over the past few weeks, one of the more intriguing political news stories has been the raucous town halls that Congressional Republicans have experienced back in their home districts. Cable news has been filled with scenes of House and Senate members being peppered with confrontational questions from constituents while overflow crowds cheer on questioners and jeer their representatives.
With Democrats and liberals in even the reddest districts organizing to attend these town halls, some congresspeople are now taking to skipping these in-person meetings with their voters, preferring to arrange conference calls and Facebook Q&As.
When pressed by a group of demonstrators earlier this week on why he hadnt scheduled a public town hall, Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) explained that his constituents already knew where he stood on issues like immigration and health care, so it was essentially pointless.
Gohmert then stated that it was a safety issue why he wasnt holding a meeting with voters, specifically citing the shooting of a Congresswoman while also parroting a GOP/Trump Administration claim that many of these town hall attendees are paid protesters.
In his statement, the Texas lawmaker would also note that he can reach more voters through telephone town hall meetings, highlighting that it makes it easier for the elderly and disabled to participate. He pointed out that hell eventually go back to having civil town hall meetings once the threat of violence subsides.
Gatlin posted on 2017-03-31 23:22:17 Reply Private Reply
#7: Stoner To: rlk (#1)
Robert, not sure if I understand. Are you opposed to the Freedom Caucus ?
Stoner posted on 2017-04-01 04:49:41 Reply Private Reply
#8: A K A Stone To: Willie Green (#3)
That is how you talk. So I'll talk the same to you penis boy.
A K A Stone posted on 2017-04-01 07:27:06 Reply Private Reply
#9: Willie Green To: A K A Stone (#8)
That is how you pray in church.
Willie Green posted on 2017-04-01 09:36:23 Reply Private Reply
#10: Mudboy Slim To: Willie Green (#3)
GOOFy-lookin' AND STOOOPIDer than a ROCK...LOL!!
And she's THE BEST DemRATZ got, apparentLEE...MUD
Mudboy Slim posted on 2017-04-01 11:53:27 Reply Private Reply
#11: rlk To: Stoner (#7)
They impress me as assholes representing areas filled with assholes. Calling them a Freedom Caucus means nothing. Why don't they call themselves the Asshole Caucus?
rlk posted on 2017-04-01 12:28:29 Reply Private Reply
#12: Tooconservative To: Gatlin (#6)
...then he'll get re-elected handily.
Otherwise, he won't.
I assume we will find out in November 2018.
One senile old surgeon writing a blog for the Lefty mouthpiece, The Hill, does not turn an incumbent like Gohmert out of office, no matter how much you hope it will.
Tooconservative posted on 2017-04-01 12:59:13 Reply Private Reply
#13: Stoner To: rlk (#11)
Stoner posted on 2017-04-01 13:01:23 Reply Private Reply
#14: Gatlin To: Tooconservative (#12)
I cannot help but notice that you have a great propensity to act hateful and disrespectful towards your elders .I am quick to pick up on weird reactions by odd people.
I am curious to learn the cause of your inclination to behave towards senior citizens in the particular insolent manner you do
Is this just a natural tendency for a libertarian .or is it because you hate your parents for some reason?
Again, just curious
Gatlin posted on 2017-04-01 13:35:46 Reply Private Reply
#15: Tooconservative To: Gatlin (#14)
You might as well rant about Susan B. Anthony and Harry Houdini.
I am not interested in joining your little Geezerville.
Now go play some shuffleboard before your nap.
Tooconservative posted on 2017-04-01 14:16:13 Reply Private Reply
#16: Gatlin To: Tooconservative (#15)
I was in no way referring to myself.
I was merely pointing out that you referred to the doctor in Texas as one senile old surgeon when you dont even know him or know anything about him.
As far as the rest of your post, it is quite evident that I stuck a nerve.
Wow, what some explosive reaction....you just had there!
What was it
Was it that I mentioned your reactions towards older folks is because you hate your parents for some reason?
Hmmm
And BTW I have never played shuffleboard in my life, but it is nap time.
So, toodle-loo
I fully realize that is an archaic American form of goodbye.
But I am old fashioned in many ways .enjoyably so.
Things were so much better during my generation.
Argue against that
Gatlin posted on 2017-04-01 15:15:53 Reply Private Reply
#17: Tooconservative To: Gatlin (#16)
My parents are deceased. I got along with them pretty well overall. Like a lot of families, we did know what subjects to avoid.
I doubt that. I'm old enough to remember quite a few of them. They were nothing special. In history, a generation that is special in any way is quite unusual. A good exception would be the Founders of the republic. Even they had plenty of faults.
I don't generally admire sentimentality. I always think that others will remember the same exact things quite differently and with a very different perspective.
Tooconservative posted on 2017-04-01 15:36:47 Reply Private Reply
#18: Gatlin To: Tooconservative (#17)
Oh, I am so glad and relieved to learn that your parents were not the source of your frustration with older folks.
Wow, Ill bet on that being the Gospel truth .if you were anything back then, like you are today.
Gatlin posted on 2017-04-01 15:53:15 Reply Private Reply
#19: Tooconservative To: Gatlin (#18)
Considering what a flaming asshole you are on this forum, I'll take that as a compliment.
Tooconservative posted on 2017-04-01 16:21:19 Reply Private Reply
#20: Gatlin To: Tooconservative (#17)
And I was one of those who lived it .
I will be eternally grateful that I did I would have had it no other way.
A few pictorial sentimental reasons why: The Greatest Generation.
You should think about doing that, and come to realize that sentimentality is not a bad thing for you Cue Doris DayI know, your question coming is: Doris Day?
Forget it
Gatlin posted on 2017-04-01 16:54:57 Reply Private Reply
#21: Tooconservative To: Gatlin (#20)
Just how old are you? I thought you were supposedly in high school when WW II ended.
Tooconservative posted on 2017-04-01 17:05:30 Reply Private Reply
#22: Gatlin To: Tooconservative (#19)
Oh, my goodness, you dont have to take anything .it was definitely meant as a compliment, to your parents for putting up with you.
Furthermore, it was meant to openly and publically call attention to the obnoxious and insufferable know-it-all repulsive asshole you are on this forum, when you constantly talk down to everyone.
Your immature attempts to display your holier-than-thou attitude causes you to believe you are intellectually superior to everyone.
Why you must constantly try to show everyone how emphatically correct you are and call them out to show how wrong you think they are always .is a mystery.
What is not a mystery, is that your Illusory Superiority cognitive bias is showing that you greatly overestimate your own qualities .and that needs immediate attention.
Your turn
Gatlin posted on 2017-04-01 17:31:15 Reply Private Reply
#23: Gatlin To: Tooconservative (#21)
As well as this
And I can get emotional when I hear this .I know how you detest sentimentality.
[An AC-130 Spectre Gunship and a crew in my old unit can be seen at 3:09 in the video]
And each time the this is presented on TV .my wife and both stand,
she places her hand over her heart while I salute
That is what The Greatest Generation does .the generation I grew up in, TC.
And what does your generation do, Bubba .when the National Anthem is played, some of them kneel.
Assholes
Gatlin posted on 2017-04-01 18:52:48 Reply Private Reply
#24: Deckard To: Gatlin, Tooconservative (#22)
Deckard posted on 2017-04-01 19:26:49 Reply Private Reply
#25: Tooconservative To: Deckard (#24)
Tooconservative posted on 2017-04-01 19:35:39 Reply Private Reply
#26: Gatlin To: Tooconservative (#25)
Best described as....truthfully heartfelt.
Gatlin posted on 2017-04-01 19:39:42 Reply Private Reply
#27: Tooconservative To: Gatlin (#26)
Tooconservative posted on 2017-04-01 19:41:05 Reply Private Reply
#28: Gatlin To: Tooconservative (#27)
Truth comes out easily .but, I will not argue with you.
Gatlin posted on 2017-04-01 20:22:24 Reply Private Reply