A few days before the House Freedom Caucus brought down the American Health Care Act, Rep. Mark Meadows laid out the stakes for his group: “This is a defining moment for our nation, but it’s also a defining moment for the Freedom Caucus.”
The North Carolina Republican was right. The vote was indeed a defining moment — a test in which the Freedom Caucus had to decide: Would it remain a minoritarian opposition bloc whose only role was to defend truth without compromise? Or could it become something bigger, transforming itself into a majoritarian governing force that could lead Congress toward achievable conservative victories and have a lasting impact on the direction of our country?
The Freedom Caucus failed the test.
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#1: Gatlin To: All (#0)
Rep. Gary Palmer promising to cast his vote in favor.
Yet another great American would have stepped forward and told the Freedom Caucus to kiss his ass …
Gatlin posted on 2017-03-27 11:52:40 Reply Private Reply
#2: Tooconservative To: Gatlin, Justified (#0)
Exploding deficits, failed wars, Shamnesty attempts, trying to put weird Aunt Harriet on the Court, all that crap was stuff that Thiessen wrote lots of speeches defending. And he's still defending Bush and the GOPe today.
Thiessen was, of course, a big NeverTrumper as well. But now he's rallying around Trump because the GOPe wants to pass 0bamaCare 2.0 before it collapses entirely.
So the Freedom Caucus will wear his scorn like a badge of honor. They're accustomed to his usual duplicity.
Tooconservative posted on 2017-03-27 12:06:45 Reply Private Reply
#3: Tooconservative To: Gatlin (#1)
As far as I can tell, the FC did not making this a key vote (meaning, if you were a member and didn't vote with them, they would kick you out). Meadows said it was not a litmus test vote for the FC and I think he stayed with that.
So of course members were free to decide how to vote.
Tooconservative posted on 2017-03-27 12:08:28 Reply Private Reply
#4: misterwhite To: Tooconservative (#2)
misterwhite posted on 2017-03-27 12:13:35 Reply Private Reply
#5: Tooconservative To: misterwhite (#4)
In political debate, always attack the messenger and the message.
To be fair, I always disliked Thiessen. A big ol' RINO squish who wrote mediocre speeches for the incoherent Dumbya to bore us all with. Those SOTU speeches were excruciatingly bad.
Tooconservative posted on 2017-03-27 12:17:31 Reply Private Reply
#6: misterwhite To: Tooconservative (#5)
Calling the messenger a jerk adds nothing to the debate.
misterwhite posted on 2017-03-27 13:06:28 Reply Private Reply
#7: Tooconservative To: misterwhite (#6)
Politics isn't about debate. It's only about winning.
Tooconservative posted on 2017-03-27 13:44:29 Reply Private Reply