Kudos to NIDA for taking a step in the right direction and being the first federal entity to explicitly acknowledge cannabis as medicine.

Bullshit …

From the article you posted:

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA)
has not recognized
or approved the marijuana plant as medicine.

… ‘nuff said!!!

Once again, they're referring to the cannabinoids found in marijuana, not the plant itself.

"Because the marijuana plant contains chemicals that may help treat a range of illnesses and symptoms, many people argue that it should be legal for medical purposes."

Yeah, and they're idiots. Just because the plant contains chemicals that may be useful doesn't mean smoking the plant will give the same benefits.

I think this same article was posted on LF around a year ago....or, maybe I read it someplace else at that time.

or, maybe I read it someplace else at that time.

You're not sure you're lying?

"Only a few days ago, Sessions said cannabis “is slightly less awful” than heroin – a mind-boggling display of ignorance."

A mind-boggling display of ignorance is criticizing Session's statement without even knowing what he meant by "slightly less awful".

No it is not bullshit. You didn't even bother to search for the case so I went ahead and did it for you. From this link:

https://www.aclu.org/files/FilesPDFs/conant_apha.pdf

ppgs 56-58 are of relevance.

lol ...

I am busy with Cranky and Deckard right now.

So, I don’t have time for you.

I'll get back to you at some later date.

In the meantime, just out of curiosity….were you ever stationed at a RTAFB in Thailand?

https://www.aclu.org/files/FilesPDFs/conant_apha.pdf
ppgs 56 56-58 are of relevance.

First, your link is merely an Amici Curiae from the ACLU -- a brief. It means nothing. Second, your link is to a document with only 33 pages. Meaning, "ppgs 56-58" are nowhere to be found.

Second, your link is to a document with only 33 pages. Meaning, "ppgs 56-58" are nowhere to be found.

I saw the page error also….but I chose not to respond to him.

I have a distinctly strong feeling he knew those pages were not there and he was just messing with me after he has been off the forum for 8 days…yet he came on to immediately and directly to post this to me….while I am messing with Cranky and Deckard.

He is playing games....he has before.

"He is playing games....he has before."

He does that with me and he goes on my shit list.

Of course, I could be wrong this time.

I will admit that ...

It is just a feeling I got after reviewing most all of his posts, his message content and to whom he always posted.

Edit: I looked and studied some more....maybe all a coincidence, but a rather odd one.

When was the last time you smoked cannabis, MisterWhite?

^ The film the Feds said was never made. Thanks Jack (RIP)

"Make the Most of the Hemp Seed-Sow it Everywhere, even in MisterWhite's BackYard!" - George Washington, 1794

Actually this here

http://medicalmarijuana.procon.org/sourcefiles/Young1988.pdf is the EXACT document I was referring to.

My bad. I'm sorry about that.

Please see post #14 for the correct link. For some reason I had posted the wrong link. It is difficult for me these days to read with lettering of small font size.

No games intended here. Just read it for yourself.

"Make the Most of the Hemp Seed-Sow it Everywhere, even in MisterWhite's BackYard!" - George Washington, 1794

You do know the difference between hemp and marijuana, right?

Francis L. Young is an Administrative Law Judge for the DEA. He's a lawyer who took an ALJ test and passed.

An Administrative Law Judge works for the Executive branch (not the Judicial) and does not rule on the law -- he rules on the agency regulations which implement the law.

His report is almost 30 years old and woefully out of date. It has no legal weight and is one man's opinion. If Congress believes it, they're free to reschedule the drug. But if they haven't done so in 30 years, it's unlikely they will any time soon.

His report is almost 30 years old and woefully out of date. It has no legal weight and is one man's opinion. If Congress believes it, they're free to reschedule the drug. But if they haven't done so in 30 years, it's unlikely they will any time soon.

Some fact about the role of administrative judges. https://www.justia.com/administrative-law/administrative-law-judges/

It may be woefully out of date but nobody seems to be disputing the facts that marijuana has been used in the medical field to treat patients and has ruled more effective than traditional medicine. And not only that but this opinion may be used as an Exhibit for any future filings on Petitions to the Supreme Court should there be more disputing the facts.

"the facts that marijuana has been used in the medical field to treat patients and has ruled more effective than traditional medicine."

There may be anecdotal stories out there that support your statement, but no scientific research.

That said, some studies show promising medical value from the cannabinoids found in marijuana. But those compounds have been extracted, purified and concentrated into an effective dose.

To conclude that smoking marijuana would provide the same effect is ludicrous.

That said, some studies show promising medical value from the cannabinoids found in marijuana. But those compounds have been extracted, purified and concentrated into an effective dose.

Yes, but the logic should hold that if cannabis has such a value for medical purposes why would those compounds be extracted in the first place? Actually, extracting those compounds diminishes the value and the effect from using it. And that's not logical at all but plain stupid.

"Yes, but the logic should hold that if cannabis has such a value for medical purposes why would those compounds be extracted in the first place?"

So if researchers found a specific chemical compound in gasoline that had beneficial medical use, you would say that it's okay to drink gasoline?

Marinol pills have synthetic THC, the active ingredient in marijuana, and are prescribed by a doctor to treat nausea and stimulate appetite. The standard dosage is 5mg.

Now, how many joints is that? 1? 2? 10? How often would you have to smoke those joints? Are there any side effects or negative reactions to the other drugs you might be taking? Are there impurities in the marijuana that could affect your health?

Is this the way an advanced country like the United State dispenses medicine? Do we also chew on roots and bark and leaves to get relief?

Medical marijuana is a scam -- using the sick and dying as pawns in order to achieve the ultimate goal of legal recreational marijuana.

Is this the way an advanced country like the United State dispenses medicine?

The US is no longer "an advanced country". Washington DC has been infested with criminals - some of whom ping pong back and forth from "government" to corporations, the Congress is overflowing with whores and idiots that have no idea what they are doing, the Treasury has been looted by thieves and brigands, and the debt is simply out of any control whatsoever. But you knew all of that.

Medical marijuana is a scam

This is a lie. Your own government says "Cannabis has been used for medicinal purposes for thousands of years" and "Cannabinoids may have benefits in the treatment of cancer-related side effects." https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/treatment/cam/hp/cannabis-pdq

When was the last time you smoked Cannabis, MisterWhite? Inquiring minds want to know...

Medical marijuana is a scam -- using the sick and dying as pawns in order to achieve the ultimate goal of legal recreational marijuana.

If medical marijuana is a scam than so is chemotheraphy.

"If medical marijuana is a scam than so is chemotheraphy."

How so?

"Cannabis has been used for medicinal purposes for thousands of years"

So have witch doctors, shamans, spiritual healers and medicine men. Doesn't mean I'd go see them.

Well, the chemotheraphy is designed to not just kill cancer cells but also what is left of the good white blood cell count that was meant to fight the bad cancer cells. So when chemo is pumped into your bloodstream, it gets to work and destroys just about every damn blood cell leaving your immune system unable to repair itself thus leaving you on your death bed. Not only that but it can very damaging on your rib cage causing it to cave in. And that is exactly why my mom died. The chemo damaged her rib cage. It did not do the job but instead killed her. She allowed herself to be subject to this experiment for 8 years. Had she made a choice of other alternative medicine, which by the way is her right under Patients Rights, such as medical marijuana under doctor supervision, she would be alive. The mistake she made was in trusting those doctors who not only administered too much chemo but also administered a vaccine that made her go into a code blue state.

"Had she made a choice of other alternative medicine, which by the way is her right under Patients Rights, such as medical marijuana under doctor supervision, she would be alive."

Medical marijuana does not cure cancer.

"The American Cancer Society Cancer Action Network (ACS CAN), the Society’s advocacy affiliate, has not taken a position on legalization of marijuana for medical purposes because of the need for more scientific research on marijuana’s potential benefits and harms."

And to counter that statement read this from the Cancer Institute which states the opposite.

https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/treatment/cam/hp/cannabis-pdq

Medical marijuana does not cure cancer.

This is like trying to have a discussion with an android programmed to repeat the same old bullshite lines over and over again. You'll ignore this too! American Exceptionalism.

US GOV: Cannabis has been shown to kill cancer cells in the lab

Antitumor activity

Studies in mice and rats have shown that cannabinoids may inhibit tumor growth by causing cell death, blocking cell growth, and blocking the development of blood vessels needed by tumors to grow. Laboratory and animal studies have shown that cannabinoids may be able to kill cancer cells while protecting normal cells.

A laboratory study of delta-9-THC in hepatocellular carcinoma (liver cancer) cells showed that it damaged or killed the cancer cells. The same study of delta-9-THC in mouse models of liver cancer showed that it had antitumor effects. Delta-9-THC has been shown to cause these effects by acting on molecules that may also be found in non-small cell lung cancer cells and breast cancer cells.

A laboratory study of cannabidiol (CBD) in estrogen receptor positive and estrogen receptor negative breast cancer cells showed that it caused cancer cell death while having little effect on normal breast cells. Studies in mouse models of metastatic breast cancer showed that cannabinoids may lessen the growth, number, and spread of tumors.

https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/treatment/cam/patient/cannabis-pdq#link/_13

When was the last time you smoked Cannabis, MisterWhite?

"Studies in mice and rats have shown that cannabinoids may inhibit tumor growth by causing cell death, blocking cell growth, and blocking the development of blood vessels needed by tumors to grow."

Fine. Then legalize marijuana for mice and rats -- with a doctor's recommendation.

If you get cancer, are you going with radiation and chemo or are you going to smoke dope instead? I think we all know the answer, so cut the bullshit.

"US GOV: Cannabis has been shown to kill cancer cells in the lab"

That headline is a lie. The cannabinoids found in cannabis may inhibit tumor growth.

And to counter that statement read this from the Cancer Institute which states the opposite.

From your link:

•At present, there is insufficient evidence to recommend inhaling Cannabis as a treatment for cancer-related symptoms or cancer treatment– – – –related symptoms or cancer treatment-related side effects; however, additional research is needed.