"Murder" is a legal term,not an emotional one.

When people kill, not being aware what they do, it is a manslaughter, not murder.

Just my opinion.

I know, but I expected something more spectacular - like Russian hackers falsifying American elections or at least putting some stuff in Mrs Clinton's coffee to make her say stupid things during her presidential campaign.

Clearly, the Xlinton campaign was totally inept at computer security. Their own fault, particularly Podesta's emails. Their errors were pretty much self-inflicted.

To the extent that the Russians "hacking" (i.e. revealing that the DNC stacked the deck against Bernie, the true disparaging opinions of Xlinton insiders like Podesta toward their own voters) affected the election, it was because the voters had accurate info about the candidate and how much she and the Xlinton gang despised pretty much everyone.

As SoS, Hitlery did meddle in Vlad's 2011 election, more to delegitimize his inevitable election rather than a serious attempt to unseat him. So Vlad was, in many ways, trying to return the favor to her. We should not too readily dismiss a certain Russian habit of revenge for perceived insulting behavior.

I don't think the Russians ever imagined, any more than anyone else in the West, that Trump would actually beat Hillary. I do think that Vlad would find delegitimizing the American election, worthwhile in itself but even more so against Hitlery, to be in his own interests as he is not a fan of democracy to begin with. He tolerates it, or at least the trappings of it.

Vlad made a typical Russian play to downgrade a democratic election in the leading Western country with an eye to upcoming elections in the EU, eastern Europe and Turkey. Russia is authoritarian and prefers to deal with other autocratic regimes.

Either that or you are a murderer at heart too.

I'll just go with you're a little PC at times unless you say otherwise.

FWIW,I am personally opposed to "convenience" abortions after the 3rd month.

However,what I am opposed to and what makes me happy are irrelevant because we are talking about a law,and laws have to be defined in black and white so people understand what they can do legally,and what they can't do legally.

And regardless of how *I* think about abortion,I am not arrogant enough to demand that MY opinion outweigh the opinion of some young girl or woman who is pregnant as the result of a rape,or whose life would be at risk if she were to try to carry to term. EVERYBODY has the right to self-defense,even pregnant woman.

And don't try to pull that "the baby has a right to life,too!" nonsense because a fetus is NOT a baby. If it were a baby,the legal term for it would be "baby",NOT fetus. Don't like the law? Change it.

When people kill, not being aware what they do, it is a manslaughter, not murder.

Just my opinion.

I am NOT a legal expert,but I THINK "manslaughter" is a big gray zone in the law,where it is not clear the doer's life was at risk,but it's not really clear it wasn't,either.

This way a jury of his or her peers,proving his or her peers are retired geezers with nothing else to do,bored housewives,or unemployed men,get to make the call instead of a judge.

And of course,it is probably rare in cases where the defendant is charged with manslaughter for the defendant to get serious prison time,or for them to not be able to return a "justifiable homicide" verdict. After all,if it was murder,the charge should have been murder.

I don't think the Russians ever imagined, any more than anyone else in the West, that Trump would actually beat Hillary.

Hell,I voted for Trump,and even I didn't think he was going to win.

Hell,I voted for Trump,and even I didn't think he was going to win.

I voted for Trump and knew he was going to win. I knew it when he announced. I knew it would resonate with regular folks.

 Russia is authoritarian and prefers to deal with other autocratic regimes.

It is nice that America is not authoritarian and stays away from the Saudis. Isn't it?

Hell,I voted for Trump,and even I didn't think he was going to win.

Thank Putin :)

Trump sure brought the libtard trash out of the closet on this site. HAAAA

Trump, making America AMERICAN again, one smelly illegal alien at a time. (That's my original quote, you may use that).

Keep your libtard slanted YELLA articles off the site

This is supposed to be a free speech zone, not JimRob site. Please.

Tpaine, pinguinite, sneakypete. You dont call randge a paultard but i think she supported him too.

This is supposed to be a free speech zone, not JimRob site. Please.

You have no constitutional rights here, libtard. Lies & YELLA propaganda, meant to agitate, ARE NOT SPEECH.

pinguinite, I pay no attention to.

Either way, I personally don't care if any one of our sites geriatric hippies supported Trump. He would have still won without the three votes... and the three you speak of, lick the boots of Decktard and hondope... sleep with dogs, wake with fleas.

It isn't right to write off everyone on California. You don't win by running away.

So you suggest you win by paying outrageous amounts of school and property taxes where the state USES YOUR TAX MONEY TO DEFEND THEIR OWN NAZI RULES, REGULATIONS AND LAWS against you? Is that how you win?

When a KOOKIFONIAN sues the state for immoral laws... where do you think the state gets the legal funds to pay for the states DEFENSE, you think that's free?

lol

"everyone in KOOKIFONIA" pays, in some form for their chains. Some like the chains, others don't... both are equally guilty of supporting the hand that binds them.

"This is supposed to be a free speech zone, not JimRob site. Please."

You have no constitutional rights here, libtard. Lies & YELLA propaganda, meant to agitate, ARE NOT SPEECH.

Jim, is it you?

Tpaine, pinguinite, sneakypete.

the three you speak of, lick the boots of Decktard and hondope...

Report to the sobriety checkpoint, comrade.

Most of the people here you call paultards voted for Trump.

They say they did and if they did….then it proves that a few Paultard libertarians can occasionally display some good sense.

But that does not hold true for the numbers of libertarians who are emerging as Trump resistance. As some Never Trumpers slowly fade off into the sunset….libertarians have taken up the cause.

You find the voices that have aligned with liberty movement are more often among the loudest ones now pushing back on Trump and his various proposals as libertarians continue to express misgivings.

The priorities are diverse in the often-contrarian liberty movement, and there has been diversity, too, in their criticism, ranging from the sense that the “Wall Street establishment” has been overly empowered by a number of Trump’s personnel selections who have deep ties to Goldman Sachs, to fears for civil liberties protections. Many libertarians were also plenty critical of George W. Bush, some activists note, so it’s not a big leap for them to express concerns about another Republican president.

Libertarians are a fickle group….unreliable and unpredictable.

Don’t believe me….that libertarians are anti-Trump?

Then just take a look at what the libertarian’s Bible, reason.com, has to say about it:

*Of Course* Libertarians Are Leading the Charge Against Trump's Authoritarianism

See, I told you …

Or, at least I tried to tell you!

Keep your libtard slanted YELLA articles off the site, monkey boy.

WOW! I had no idea you owned Liberty's Flame now.

AKA,did you sell it to him,or just turn over control?

You have no constitutional rights here, libtard.

And here I was thinking this site was hosted in America,and owned by an American that believed in freedom of speech and thought.

Guess I was wrong,and it's now owned by a leatherboy homosexual so deep in the closet he over-compensates for being a sissy-boy.

Tpaine remains a paultard for willingly living in the worst Nazi state,

So says the retard that lives in NY.

It isn't right to write off everyone on California. You don't win by running away.

AMEN!

In FACT,there are a LOT of conservatives that live in Ca. The problem is they live in the rural areas and work,instead of living in the big cities and living off of government jobs and welfare. That's why you never hear of them.

Same thing when I was living in Colorado. Get outside of Denver,Aspen,Golden,Boulder,and Colorado Springs,and you run into nothing BUT conservatives.

And it was getting worse every year in Colorado because a lot of the leftist loons that voted for all the free stuff in Ca had to move away once the taxes were raised to pay for all the stuff they voted for. So they moved to Colorado,mostly Denver,Aspen,Vail,or Boulder,and immediately started lobbying for the same laws they lobbied for that made Ca unlivable for them.

Stinky will remain a paultard for his LIBERALtarian love for fags.

BTW,goober,people like Thomas Jefferson,George Washington,and Ben Franklin were the original American "Libertarians",and it was due to them we got a Constitution and a Bill of Rights that guaranteed our individual freedoms.

Easy to see why you object to that,though. You aren't very bright,so you became a cop.

You find the voices that have aligned with liberty movement are more often among the loudest ones now pushing back on Trump and his various proposals as libertarians continue to express misgivings.

Being being free scares you,doesn't it?

Everyone cannot afford to move.

Ah, the old catch-22 situation: Everyone cannot afford to move out of California – while a lot of people are moving out of California because they can't afford to live there anymore.

For every home buyer coming into the state, there are three Californians selling and moving elsewhere. [Data analysis firm CoreLogic].

Incomes just haven't kept up with the home price bonanza for many people -- particularly for the working and middle class. Despite strong job and wage growth, the Golden State has been losing residents for years and could be facing a shortage of middle-wage workers, according to a report from Beacon Economics released in March.

Anyone stuck in California can “bite the bullet” now, or they can “bite the bullet” later….in either case, it will be tough.

Being free scares you,doesn't it?

Why, because I was just naturally Born Free.

Natural birth in a farmhouse with a neighbor lady from the next farm over attending.

How much more “being free” with a start in life like that could I possibly be?

I’ll answer my own question….NONE.

Ya know, I was born so free that even an ever popular song with music by John Barry and lyrics by Don Black was written about me.

Want to hear it?

Sure you do!

Just listen:

Like it?

I felt that you would …

Have you ever had a song expressely written about you?

No?

Awh ...

Uh....what was your question, again?

Uh....what was your question, again?

Don't let it worry you. You obviously wouldn't understand it the second time,either.

All of the Land Rovers and Range Rovers I have owned [dating back to the first Series III in 1974] for exploring the outback in Arizona and Utah were named: Born Free.

I wanted to throw that touching bit of nostalgia in for you.

Stay in touch....ya hear.

All of the Land Rovers and Range Rovers I have owned [dating back to the first Series III in 1974] for exploring the outback in Arizona and Utah were named: Born Free.

Ok.

And here I was thinking this site was hosted in America,and owned by an American that believed in freedom of speech and thought.

Constantly talk about how equal fags are... and see how your fantasy works out for ya, fag lover

So says the retard that lives in NY.

I moved from New York about a year before Goldie shit the bed and was found rotting and alone, decaying on her Jewish floor for 2 weeks.

Being being

Is stuttering a symptom of AIDS?

I have a bridge to sell you.

Btw... making excuses for dysfunctional behavior is a LIBERAL TRAIT.

worship all the anti gov koolaid

Don't deny that there are several Timmy Mcveigh boot lickers here that worship all the anti gov koolaid

Ronald Reagan:

The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'

Btw... making excuses for dysfunctional behavior is a LIBERAL TRAIT.

That must make you and Gatlin LIBERALS then, since you continue to make excuses for dysfunctional cops.

Why, because I was just naturally Born Free.

Natural birth in a farmhouse with a neighbor lady from the next farm over attending.

How much more “being free” with a start in life like that could I possibly be?

I’ll answer my own question….NONE.

Ya know, I was born so free that even an ever popular song with music by John Barry and lyrics by Don Black was written about me.

Anyone who believes they are free because of the circumstances of their birth or because someone wrote a song about them is definitely a primary candidate for lemminghood. The psychological trick of coaxing people into submission by convincing them they are free is well established. That we were all taught growing up how lucky we were to be born in the USA being one prime example.

You, Gatlin, don't understand what freedom is. If you did, you wouldn't have your fetish about libertarianism, which has the principle of freedom defining it's foundation. I'm not saying you should be one, and I'm not saying that you shouldn't be able to argue, say, about marijuana use hurting society. You simply don't understand libertarianism and have no desire to. Hell, you only barely respect the First Amendment. You seriously have some fetish about the word that you do not have for communism or even criminal behavior.

People can live where they want. They don't have to answer to you …

Absolutely, you are 100% correct. People can live where they want….they don’t have to answer to GrandIsland, but the are answering to themselves.

And people are answering to themselves by deciding they no longer want to live in that crap hole place called, California. The are moving out in droves: 5 Million People Left California Over the Past Decade.

The mass exodus from California is in progress:

Exodus from California

California Won't Fall Into The Sea -- It's Moving To Texas Instead

Report - The Great California Exodus: A Closer Look

https://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/great-california-exodus- closer-look-5853.html

Joel Kotkin: The Great California Exodus

Why poorer, uneducated people are leaving California

THE CALIFORNIA EXODUS ACCELERATES

Exodus from California

Exodus from CA by the Middle Class

California Exodus

“California Exodus” Takes Aim at Public Schools

Mass Exodus From California

The Exodus Of People Moving Away From California Is Becoming An Avalanche

The exodus out of the Golden State continues with Nestle USA being the latest business …

Mass Exodus of Manufacturing from California

Will California's Outlier Status Accelerate Exodus?

Will there be a great California exodus due to housing and rent prices?

Exodus from the California Core …

Money's leaving California in a hurry

San Diego's Business Exodus Is Really a People Exodus

The Exodus out of California & it's Affect on Real Estate Values

Hawks California Exodus Program is helping Las Vegas Home ...

Money Matters - What is behind the mass Exodus from California ...

Even Booming Bay Area Sees an Exodus

The “exodus” has begun for the apparel industry ...

Hollywood's Big Budget Film Exodus Loses California $9.6 Billion

Brown accelerates California exodus

A Silicon Valley exodus? Redfin analysis finds Bay Area residents are ...

Exodus: California Tax Revenue Plunges by 22% -

High cost of California housing driving resident exodus

Toyota Motor Corporation Joins Exodus From California to Texas ...

The California exodus to Texas is reflected in market-based, one-way ...

California's minimum wage hike causing mass exodus, implosion in ...

3 Simple Charts That Help Explain Why 9,000 Businesses Have Left ...

California exodus turns to stampede -

San Diego Fact Check: California's Business Mass Exodus

"Exit Taxes": How California Tries to Stop the Lower Middle Class ...

<16 Reasons Why Americans are Leaving California by the Millions/font>

And the links go on ….

Since you obviously have extreme difficulty with satire -
     Let’s see how well you can handle some really great humor.

What's the difference between Big Foot and an intelligent libertarian?
     Big Foot has been spotted several times.

Why is psychoanalysis quicker for a libertarian than for someone else?
     When its time to regress back to his childhood, he's already there.

What is libertarians favorite salad?
     Lettuce alone.

Decktard

The sites bootlicker. Wipe the paultard polish off your face.

People can live where they want. They don't have to answer to you.

When did I ever assert otherwise? The only one that answers to me is me. However, this is America. Land of the FREE. And in America if you....

Overdose on drugs, you're FREE to die. Destroy Narcan

Refuse to work... then you are FREE to starve. Destroy welfare

Willingly stay in a Nazi state... don't call others bootlicker on Paultard Flame. Com. You aren't FREE to be a hypocrite... unless the president of PaultardFlame.com defends said hypocritical FREEDOM.

Constantly talk about how equal fags are... and see how your fantasy works out for ya, fag lover

Is that right,Princess?

Is stuttering a symptom of AIDS?

I can see why you are worried.