it was a scandal for the Dems to lock away their healthcare bill in the Senate and refuse to let anyone see it

Nancy Pelosi & Paul Ryan, no difference whatsoever. D&R party shuck 'n jive.

Throw in Boehner for waterworks!

Throw in Boehner for waterworks!

I thought we were finally able to forget that weepy old bitch until he turned up for a little attention-whoring last week (along with Dumbya Bush).

Funny how credible those two are now if they say 0dingaCare can't be repealed or if Bush, after 8 years of silence on 0bama, takes cheap shots at Trump while flacking his truly horrible collection of "paintings".

Republican aides said they believed the room on the first floor of the Capitol is being used for Energy and Commerce members to read the bill. Rep. Paul Tonko (D-N.Y.), a committee member, said he was also not able to read the bill and was told it was not available, explains Politico.

If we had a president instead of a confused screw-up, he would send in a platoon of special forces to gain access to the bill, with instructions to kill anybody, including the so-called armed guards that offered any resistance whatsoever. Pile up the bodies, but find out what these assholes are hiding from the American people.

Rand Paul Blocked By Armed Guards From New Obamacare Bill (Secure Location, Not Available)

This article in nothing more than a promotional propaganda libertarian hit piece….and a very weak one at that.

What we see here is simply Rand Paul once again grandstanding to display his ostentatious behavior and speech intended to impress people like he once tried to do when exercising a rare “talking filibuster” that has not been seen in years….his filibuster that proved to be a waste of time because he accomplished nothing when other national issues confronted the Senate.

The republican health care overhaul in the house is still a “work in progress” since House Republicans cannot agree on some details or cost estimates. What is behind that closed door that Rand is being so anus about is simply a “rough sketch” of the massive health care overhaul that was unveiled to all rank-and- file Republican member of Congress on February 18.

There is no “new Obamacare bill” as the Libertarian Republic so biasedly and dishonestly labeled it. So far, there is only a broad vision for voiding much of Obama’s ACA and replacing it with conservative policies, as the work in progress was described by Ryan at a closed-door meeting in the Capitol basement in late February. The work in progress features a carefully revamped Medicaid program for the poor, tax breaks to help people pay doctor’s bills and federally subsidized state pools to assist those folks with costly medical conditions in buying insurance.

There is “no single bill” that Rand Paul wants to see. There are still different ideas options and many are controversial including the one being pushed by Ryan to replace the tax increases in Obama’s law.

Some Senate Republicans have criticized a House Republican plan to change how corporations are taxed and in mid-January Rand Paul announced he is drafting a new healthcare care plan to replace the ACA.

I would think since the “working bill” has already been made available to all rank-and-file House Members that Rand Paul already knew exactly what is in the House “working bill” he therefore didn’t go on a mission in search of information.

So, Rand Paul charging from the Senate over to the House, dragging his little portable copy machine behind him, in search of the “work in progress” house bill was not on a “search for information”….Rand was on a “search and destroy mission” to pour water on the powder in the House Republican ammunition bag they are loading.

Why should the House Republicans allow a copy of a “work in progress” bill under constant change to be floated in public by Rand Paul just so Rand can use it to promote Rand’s own version of the bill?

There is no reason they should….and they didn’t.

So, a pouting Rand Paul had to drag his butt back over to the Senate, pulling his little portable copy machine behind him [but not before he made sure all cameras were on him], where he should keep his grandstanding ass on the Senate side to do his job there and stop haranguing the House members with the continuing display of a six-year-old spoiled child temperament….so typical of libertarians.

JMO …

Time is short.

When time is short, you make the best of it. Rand Paul as a Senator is not making the best use of short time by trying to interfere with “work in progress” on a bill in the House.

Lets just say you are wrong on a whole host of issues here.

I am not discussing “a whole host of issues here.” I am discussing only Rand Paul trying to go above, outside and around established and prescribed congressional procedures.

They should release the bill so the public can see what their servants are doing.

What bill? Congress has no bill to release “so the public can see.”

The House has “work in progress” on a bill that when ready, will be sent to the Senate.

However, Rand Paul has stated that he has his drafted version of the bill, but he hasn’t released it to the public….has he? If so, I have not seen it….have you?

The butler isn't allowed to lock out the owner.

Rand Paul isn’t the OWNER of the House of Representatives….and he can be, AND WAS, damned well LOCKED out.

When the House has finished writing their bill, there is then a prescribed procedure for the bill to flow from the House to the Senate.

Rand Paul LEARNED to his stupefying dismay, while pulling his little portable copy machine around capitol hill, that his libertarian ass WILL follow that procedure and he CANNOT shortcut it for publicity.

Fuck him - the world does not revolve around his libertarian prima donna ass demands …

So a senator discovered he wasnt all powerful, fancy that

Amen to that ...

Paul Ryan was on Hannity this week. He claimed he supported "Dr. Paul's bill.

Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) walked out of an Obamacare meeting with Speaker Ryan [you solve nothing by walking away, Rand] over Medicaid expansion and the lack of progress to repeal Obamacare.

Speaker Ryan spoke with Senate Republicans Tuesday to assure everyone that an Obamacare repeal is under way. Paul stormed out of the meeting [I’ll take my ball and go home if you don’t play my way], frustrated [like a little spoiled kid pouting] …

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/02/15/rand-paul- walks-paul-ryan-takes-charge-repealing-obamacare/

The downside, however, is huge.

This article in nothing more than a promotional propaganda libertarian hit piece....

JMO …

Your "opinions" always come down on the side of an all-powerful gooberment.

Why is that exactly?

Oh - and when have you ever said anything humbly?

You're one of the biggest braggarts on the site and a master at self-aggrandizement.

Your "opinions" always come down on the side of an all-powerful gooberment.

I have only shown where Rand Paul acted like a spoiled brat when he “stormed out of an Obamacare meeting with Speaker Ryan” and went over to the House side, pulling his little copy machine …

… with the press in two portray himself as an asshole.

A mission which he sufficiently accomplished….the part about portraying himself as an asshole.

Why is that exactly

Because I am always right and I do not have a warped libertarian anti-government and cop-hating agenda as you do.

You're one of the biggest braggarts on the site and a master at self- aggrandizement.

When I forcefully speak the truth….that is not being a braggart.

It behooves every clear thinking democracy loving individual to forcefully speak out against fake news, lies and spin from you Paultard libertarian misguided individuals.

I consider it a duty and a responsibility to say something….it is incumbent on me to do everything within my power to snatch ignorant people like your from the politically dangerous predicaments you always get yourselves into.

It is my personal concern for you and because of the alarmingly dangerous state that you as a “libertarian believer” find yourself in….I therefore urge you to take immediate and fast-acting measures to deliver yourself to accepting the truth and be rescued from your untenable predicament.

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You're one of the biggest braggarts on the site and a master at self- aggrandizement.

When I forcefully speak the truth….that is not being a braggart.

It behooves every clear thinking democracy loving individual to forcefully speak out against fake news, lies and spin from you Paultard libertarian misguided individuals.

I consider it a duty and a responsibility to say something….it is incumbent on me to do everything within my power to snatch ignorant people like you from the politically dangerous predicaments you always get yourselves into.

It is my personal concern for you and because of the alarmingly dangerous state that you as a “libertarian believer” find yourself in….I therefore urge you to take immediate and fast-acting measures to deliver yourself to accepting the truth and be rescued from your untenable predicament.

Hurry up a release a healthcare bill and expect the result to be different than when they hurried up and released the refugee bill.

The GOP has been campaigning and working on this for 6 years or so. Was it all BS, or do they really have an alternate plan?

They passed repeal of ObamaCare last year, so why can't the do it again when they have a president that will sign it?

So, Rand Paul charging from the Senate over to the House, dragging his little portable copy machine behind him, in search of the “work in progress” house bill was not on a “search for information”….Rand was on a “search and destroy mission” to pour water on the powder in the House Republican ammunition bag they are loading.

I agree.

Why should the House Republicans allow a copy of a “work in progress” bill under constant change to be floated in public by Rand Paul just so Rand can use it to promote Rand’s own version of the bill?

Rand had undoubtedly been tipped off to its contents and it is approaching a final form, I think. Trump's SOTU indicated he would back Ryan, at least in broad terms.

The train is leaving the station so Rand is trying to stop it there before the GOP creates a big new entitlement (tax credits for healthcare, even for those who pay no taxes).

The GOP is on a roll similar to that which produced their foul and truly hated Pill Bill back in 2004. "If we don't pass it, the Dems will pass it and it will be even worse!" Well, if that is your excuse it just means the GOP will be just as liberal and irresponsible as the Dims in a race to the Left and a full-blown cradle-to-grave welfare state.

This is why Rand did it.

They passed repeal of ObamaCare last year, so why can't the do it again when they have a president that will sign it?

Last year and the previous 5 years as well.

As Mike Lee, Ted Cruz, Rand Paul and the House conservative caucus all say, "Let's pass the same bill we sent to 0bama in 2015."

They're right. They didn't run on repeal-and-replace all those years. Neither did Trump. They all ran on "repeal" alone. Now they want to toss in "replace". Well, if so, they still need to keep their promise and fully repeal 0dingaCare now. Do it first. It won't expire this year anyway so no one will lose their health care.

It behooves every clear thinking democracy loving individual to forcefully speak out

The framers of the US Constitution forcefully rejected Democracy, or the mob rule which you favor. They gave us a Republic.

Thank you for explaining why you hate America. You want a 51% or more majority, to oppress and enslave America. NOT going to happen, tyrant scumbag!

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The only time you do this is each time you find me posting alone and no one else sees it. What purpose does that serve for you? I know you can do it, I have seen it a number of times. You first showed me you can do it when I was again posting alone on LP.

If you are lonely and want to say hello, then I can understand that….and I will now say hello back to you. But if you have a message for me other than showing you can interrupt service, the post through one of the names you have been stashing away for years….I see you just reactivated one after an extended absence.

If you don’t want to say hello and want to make a statement of power or retaliation, then remember that I am not the person who banned you. So, wait until the person who banned you is actively posting and show him your little trick….it means nothing to me, other than just a conversation point and it also serves to remind me of the asshole you really are.

Ta-ta …

HotAir: Report: House GOP to vote on ObamaCare repeal in three weeks, prepared to “steamroll” conservatives if necessary

Sneaky GOPe bastards.

This is why Rand did it.

Rand’s primary concern is of course the draft bill he wishes to pass….and that is as it should be.

But he did not need to make a complete ass of himself with all of the dramatics, dragging a portable copy machine behind him all over the Capitol Building.

I feel certain that every media would have given him ample time to express his position and reason….if only he had requested it.

That would have shown more dignity than having the press trail him over to the House and hastily call a news conference whining that the “the big boys want let little ole me in.”

I was actually on the way to gaining some respect for Rand after his defeat in his run for POTUS and the otherwise strong action he has been taking lately in the Senate. But this antic placed him back on my sh*t list….and rightly so.

Right now, I think Rand is too impressed with the power he “thinks” he has.

They passed repeal of ObamaCare last year, so why can't the do it again when they have a president that will sign it?"

None of the Democrats are voting for Trump's cabinet nominees. Does that mean they all believe his nominees are unfit, or is it simply a protest vote?

There's your answer.

But he did not need to make a complete ass of himself with all of the dramatics, dragging a portable copy machine behind him all over the Capitol Building.

He did get the cameras and some news blurbs on FNC and FBC, probably CNN and others too.

I bet he thinks it was a success.

It's uphill to rally the remaining Tea Party folks to weigh in and put pressure on their congresscritters.

See now why Rand Paul was trying yesterday to slow this process down, even if it required a silly stunt to do so?

There is no evidence to show that Rand Paul with his silly stunt slowed the process down in any way.

All Rand’s silly stunt did was make HIM LOOK SILLY.

Well, Rand’s publicity stunt actually made him look like an immature spoiled kid….pouting.

I bet he thinks it was a success.

No doubt ...

Sen. Rand Paul: “I’m not going to be told to take it or leave it.”

Senator, it is not a matter of you being “told” anything.

You can shoot your mouth off all you want to….and you have the right to do that.

But in the end, when it comes down to the nitty gritty….it’s a matter of you being ASKED how YOU vote.

And REMEMBER….you are only ONE of ONE HUNDRED votes.

The framers of the US Constitution forcefully rejected Democracy, or the mob rule which you favor. They gave us a Republic.

You need to explain how your statement correlates in either a complementary, parallel, or reciprocal relation when I said:

It behooves every clear thinking democracy loving individual to forcefully speak out against fake news, lies and spin from you Paultard libertarian misguided individuals.

Thank you for explaining why you hate America.

How does when I say that: “It behooves every clear thinking democracy loving individual to forcefully speak out against fake news, lies and spin from you Paultard libertarian misguided individuals” explain anything about hating America?

You want a 51% or more majority, to oppress and enslave America.

Just exactly where did I say I want a 51% majority to oppress and enslave America, show me….YOU CAN’T. That is a phrase you just pulled out of your ass while trying unsuccessfully to attack me.

You want a 51% or more majority….NOT going to happen!

Since you obviously are too dumb to understand squat….let me try to undertake the difficult and probably unachievable task of educating you on the voting rules in the Senate and the House.

You may be surprised to learn that the voting rules haven't changed in a few decades, but the customs have. In both the Senate and the House, you still need a majority (50%+1) to pass a bill and in the House, that's the only consideration.

However, the rules in the Senate are a bit more complex. If the bill makes it to a vote, it needs only 51 votes. But you can debate as long as you wish before it goes to a vote. You can force someone to stop deliberating by a cloture vote and that takes 60 votes.

But you need to debate before it gets to a vote. The Senate fancies itself the "world's greatest deliberative body", and they'll deliberate as long as somebody wants to. You can force them to stop deliberating by a cloture vote, and that takes 60 votes.

It took 67 votes at one time to invoke cloture. That was changed in 1975 so that it wasn't just a talking contest. when that happened, it became possible to block any measure forever if you had 41 Senators. This was done rarely for a long time, not because of the rules but because of the customs. In recent years, the use of filibusters has spiked, and it is now considered essentially mandatory on any bill except the most banal.

So ignorant one, it ONLY takes 51 votes to pass a bill in the Senate and the House….and it takes 60 votes to stop someone in the Senate from filibustering….to pass a bill with 51 votes.

Why are you such a clumsy bungling dumb cluck?

Oh, I know….you are a Gary Johnson libertarian freak, and that explains it.

"I'm sure FireIsland can give you the hotline 800 number."

I'm guessing they have his number blocked.

However, the rules in the Senate are a bit more complex. If the bill makes it to a vote, it needs only 51 votes. But you can debate as long as you wish before it goes to a vote. You can force someone to stop deliberating by a cloture vote and that takes 60 votes.

If Cruz/Paul/Lee can find another GOP senator or two, it would spell real trouble.

Too bad Sessions isn't still in the Senate. He probably would have opposed this bill.

If Cruz/Paul/Lee can find another GOP senator or two, it would spell real trouble.

Too bad Sessions isn't still in the Senate. He probably would have opposed this bill.

It definitely could spell trouble.

Which bill....I thought "the bill" was still a "work in progress."

Ronald Reagan, Rand, Ron Paul and family, all supporters of the republic of the USA.

it ONLY takes 51 votes to pass a bill in the Senate and the House…

They're all opposed to Gatlin's democratic revolution to overthrow the republic.

God bless the republic of the USA. Down with Gatlin's Gay Canary democracy!

Rand loves these publicity stunts, but he's likely to fall into line with Mitch McConnel and the Trump establishment when push comes to shove.

He's sort of neocon-lite.

But you need to debate before it gets to a vote. The Senate fancies itself the "world's greatest deliberative body", and they'll deliberate as long as somebody wants to. You can force them to stop deliberating by a cloture vote, and that takes 60 votes.

Not true. McConnell can declare an unending "legislative day" that can span many calendar days. Then, under Senate rules, you can let each member in opposition speak twice. Then you have to vote and a simple majority will carry it.

It's all in the Senate rules. This is how they passed the Civil Rights Act back in the Sixties. The same rules are still there, they are among the oldest and most established rules, along with the filibuster.

However, if they bring just a budget reconciliation bill that matches exactly a bill in the House, then they can just invoke a simple majority vote without any debate at all.

The Senate has a lot of sneaky rules. This is the kind of stuff Robert Byrd was so famous for.

Politico reports that Paul had an exchange with a staffer as he tried to make off with the draft bill, which could be voted on later this month.

Ya had me going with you right up to that point.

It was a freaking DRAFT,NOT an actual bill,and he had no more right to see it and blab to the public about the debate over it in committee than you or I have.

This was nothing more than Paul grandstanding. I am rapidly losing respect for this phoney.

Republican aides said they believed the room on the first floor of the Capitol is being used for Energy and Commerce members to read the bill. Rep. Paul Tonko (D-N.Y.), a committee member, said he was also not able to read the bill and was told it was not available, explains Politico.

IT'S NOT A BILL,IT'S A FREAKING DRAFT. Nobody has any idea at this point what is going to be in the bill when it finally appears because it is still being negotiated.

If we had a president instead of a confused screw-up, he would send in a platoon of special forces to gain access to the bill, with instructions to kill anybody, including the so-called armed guards that offered any resistance whatsoever. Pile up the bodies, but find out what these assholes are hiding from the American people.

Is that you,Adolph? If it is,somebody should tell you that this is America,and in America the politician's can't order the military to kill civilians.

Robert,I KNOW you have heard of Posse Comitatus,and if that has slipped your mind,you might want to seek medical care.

They should release the bill so the public can see what their servants are doing.

AKA,THERE IS NO BILL TO RELEASE. It's a freaking DRAFT. By the time it becomes an actual Bill,there may not be a single damn thing on it that show up on the actual Bill.

This is just grandstanding. Nothing more. Paul is playing you people for fools in exchange for a little self-promotion.

I bet there are 20 different versions of bills to replace Obamacare. Why would the Republicans release any one of them? What's the upside to releasing something that may never happen?

Amazing,ain't it?

All the REAL crap going on that people need to focus on,and people are allowing themselves to be distracted by THIS crap?

The train is leaving the station so Rand is trying to stop it there before the GOP creates a big new entitlement (tax credits for healthcare, even for those who pay no taxes).

No,the train won't be leaving THAT station for a couple of weeks yet. LOTS of changes can be made in a couple weeks. So many,in fact,that the final Bill may not even resemble the draft they are working from now.

My way or the highway is the impression I get. "Working from the same piece of paper". He needs watching, very carefully!

I don't know why people think he's so honest. He's only somewhat better than Boehner.

We need to keep an eye on all of them. And Trump too. His daughter is teeing up Dem-flavored family leave. Trump sounds like he's ready to ram Ryan's plan through whether he understands it or not, and they are definitely trying to gauge whether we'll tolerate some big Shamnesty.

Caveat emptor! Just because voters didn't want Hitlery doesn't mean they sold their souls for any bunch of Big Gooberment plans hatched by Ryan. Or McCain/Graham/Rubio. Or Trump.

They all bear watching.

It was a freaking DRAFT,NOT an actual bill,and he had no more right to see it and blab to the public about the debate over it in committee than you or I have.

This was nothing more than Paul grandstanding. I am rapidly losing respect for this phoney.

EXACTLY....spot on!!!

IT'S NOT A BILL,IT'S A FREAKING DRAFT. Nobody has any idea at this point what is going to be in the bill when it finally appears because it is still being negotiated.

Repeating: IT'S NOT A BILL,IT'S A FREAKING DRAFT. Nobody has any idea at this point what is going to be in the bill when it finally appears because it is still being negotiated.

I don't know what is so hard about this to understand.

They are hiding something and Rand Paul is trying to expose them. Nothing wrong with the people seeing what our representatives tentative ideas are.

Congratulations! You broke the code! Later on they'll pull a Pelosi and say you must pass it to see what's in it.

I don't know why people think he's so honest. He's only somewhat better than Boehner.

Therefore, can you tell me unambiguously what Ryan is dishonest about in a draft bill that no one has seen, and has no requirement to see…a draft bill that is still in being worked on in committee and continually coordinated for changes with Senate counterparts and the WH?

I haven’t seen no evidence that Ryan is dishonest in any way about this draft bill. If there is such evidence….I really would like to see it. I am not seeking confrontation….I am seeking information.

They are hiding something and Rand Paul is trying to expose them.

Nothing wrong with the people seeing what our representatives tentative ideas are.

The “tentative ideas” being drafted in the house changes from minute to minute. The cost estimate, legislative language or policy details are in continuing evolution. There is no way the public could be kept informed on the numerous negotiated compromised changes and improvements. It is a thousand page bill that word by word is literally being modified throughout the day with coordination between the House, their counterparts in the Senate and the WH.

The Republicans in the House are diligently working for a deadline to repeal legislation by the end of the month and send it over to the Senate. The Senate leaders are seeking to vote by April 7.

The whole process is still so fluid and bogged down by policy disputes like the one Rand Paul has as to whether there should be refundable tax credits which he sees as an entitlement. Among other things, there is also contention about whether a Medicaid expansion is going to be repealed and how to pay for it.

So you want the public to see 1000 pages of “tentative ideas” that are changing by the minute?

I repeat: How is that possible?

I repeat: How is that possible?

Publish it on the internet. Then update the publication from time to time.

Therefore, can you tell me unambiguously what Ryan is dishonest about

This week on Hannity he said he supported the "Dr. Paul bill". That was just a few days ago.

Therefore, can you tell me unambiguously what Ryan is dishonest about in a draft bill that no one has seen, and has no requirement to see…a draft bill that is still in being worked on in committee and continually coordinated for changes with Senate counterparts and the WH?

He is withholding it from public view. That alone shows he is dishonest.

Back in 2009, we heard no end of bitter complaints that the Dems had locked Republicans out of the room where they were writing their bill and Pelosi daftly talking about passing it to see what's in it.

Seems to me that Ryan's crew is following the same exact path.

It was reported that Rand Paul “stormed” angrily out of the meeting.

Rand Paul (a.k.a. Luap the Lesser to diehard fans like you) denied he "stormed" out of any meeting. He said they weren't getting anywhere so he got up and left because he had other things on his schedule.

The "storming out" was just #FakeNews, IMO. And you fell for it.

"I am always right..."

Therefore, can you tell me unambiguously what Ryan is dishonest about

This week on Hannity he said he supported the "Dr. Paul bill". That was just a few days ago.

Paul has been pushing his colleagues to have a replacement plan ready to pass simultaneously with repeal of ObamaCare, a demand that has recently been gaining support inside the party. His office noted that President Trump and Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) have also reacted favorably to that idea.
http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/316084-rand- paul-unveils-obamacare-replacement

Then, the only interview I found that Paul Ryan did with Hannity on TV this year is posted here:

SPEAKER PAUL RYAN FULL ONE-ON-ONE EXPLOSIVE INTERVIEW WITH SEAN HANNITY (2/16/2017)

This is the full interview:

I could not find anything else about Paul Ryan with Hannity for this year …

It was reported that Rand Paul “stormed” angrily out of the meeting.

Rand Paul … denied he "stormed" out of any meeting. He said they weren't getting anywhere so he got up and left because he had other things on his schedule.

Rand would NEVER admit to “storming” out of a meeting.

The "storming out" was just #FakeNews, IMO. And you fell for it.

Rand Paul says something and you totally believe it. And you fall for it.

Do you honestly think that Rand Paul never lies?

And do you believe EVERYTHING that Rand Paul says?

If the answer is, no….then why did you believe what he said here.

Get Real, TC …

Don’t be gullible and accept factually what any politician says….without positive verification.

They just don't do public anger well.

Don’t be gullible and accept factually what any politician says….without positive verification.

Paul Ryan = politician

Donald J. Trump = politician

You're right, they're likely lying because their lips are moving, and they're hiding their plans, if they even have any!

Therefore, can you tell me unambiguously what Ryan is dishonest …

He is withholding it from public view. That alone shows he is dishonest.

That is really stretching it, TC….calling the withholding the contents of a bill that is work in progress until it is finalized being “dishonest.”.

Back in 2009, we heard no end of bitter complaints that the Dems had locked Republicans out of the room where they were writing their bill and Pelosi daftly talking about passing it to see what's in it.

The complete quote is here:

You’ve heard about the controversies, the process about the bill…but I don’t know if you’ve heard that it is legislation for the future – not just about health care for America, but about a healthier America,” she told the National Association of Counties annual legislative conference, which has drawn about 2,000 local officials to Washington. “But we have to pass the bill so that you [members of the association] can find out what is in it – away from the fog of the controversy.”

It has been said: “Pelosi was conveying that she was anxious for people to find out what was actually in the bill away from the controversies and lies….see no death panels!” And she definitely was not telling Republicans: “YOU must pass the bill to see what’s in it.” As it has often been misconstrued.

Seems to me that Ryan's crew is following the same exact path.

Nah! Again, that’s way too far a stretch …

Rand and his dad are both known pussyfooters.

They just don't do public anger well.

That's true ...

It has been said: “Pelosi was conveying that she was anxious for people to find out what was actually in the bill away from the controversies and lies….see no death panels!” And she definitely was not telling Republicans: “YOU must pass the bill to see what’s in it.” As it has often been misconstrued.

Don't you know you've already lost when you have to start quoting the Bitch Queen Pelosi to justify yourself?

You know, Rand Paul isn't doing anything to set your hair on fire over. This is a bit of intraparty political skirmishing from the remaining Tea Party wing against the GOPe who are emboldened by Trump's current support for them.

I'm still on the same side I was always on, with the Tea folk for "repeal 0bamaCare". Period. I don't think you can say the same, not without hobbling along leaning on Pelosi's daft speechifying back in the day.

Don't you know you've already lost when you have to start quoting the Bitch Queen Pelosi to justify yourself?

It was YOU who FIRST quoted the “Bitch Queen Pelosi” to justify yourself.

You don’t remember doing that?

Then I will show you where you did in your Post #56:

Pelosi daftly talking about passing it to see what's in it.

You know, Rand Paul isn't doing anything to set your hair on fire over.

I simply find him an amusing fellow….although simple minded at times, and not in control of his actions.

This is a bit of intraparty political skirmishing from the remaining Tea Party wing against the GOPe who are emboldened by Trump's current support for them.

But need the bit of intraparty political skirmishing be made so public?

Like when a Senator dragged a portable copy machine all across the Capitol and then called an impromptu press conference in front of a door in the House he already knew he would be forbidden entry into….and then, whining like a baby because he was not permitted entry?

I'm still on the same side I was always on, with the Tea folk for "repeal 0bamaCare". Period.

Oh yea, you sided with and supported Rand Paul in his pathetically dismal showing as a POTUS candidate.

I have absolutely no problem with you supporting a losing side and a lost cause.

After all, it is America and our freedom here gives everyone an opportunity to make a complete ass of themself.

God Bless America.

I don't think you can say [you are on the same side you were always on].

I picked my side on June 16, 2015.

You remember that date….if not, you most certainly should.

It was the date I watched Donald Trump with lofty majestic dignity and an imposing stately aspect descend on the escalator at Trump Tower to announce his candidacy for president.

Oops, I go carried away with listening to that again.

Now, continuing on ...

… without hobbling along leaning on Pelosi's daft speechifying back in the day.

You gave an inaccurate quote by Pelosi….taken out of context.

I merely posted the correctly worded quote for you and placed it in proper context for informational accuracy and objective understanding.

You do like to have informational accuracy and objective understand….right?

I thought so …

You were defending Pelosi and what she said and I caught you doing it.

Now you're trying to wiggle away from it while hurling accusations.

Nah!

You got pissed off and started to talk foolishly and mindlessly.

I merely straightened your libertarian ass out.

And a fine job I did ….

Keep defending Pelosi, comrade.

That’s funny….really funny.

You Paultard libertarians cannot stand it when someone aggressively stands up to you and backs you down.

When this happens, you do the only think you can do….you always isolate on some single item and lung into a personal attack against the individual kicking your ass.

Both you and Deckard are masters at attempting this….but when trying it with me, you are pissing in the wind.

However, if that is all you have in your ammunition bag….then fire away.

I will observe your predictable Paultard libertarian actions with great amusement….as I always have.