Sunday was a day of strength for the Trump administration at Washington Dulles International Airport. Customs and Border Protection (CBP)the federal agency tasked with keeping people from entering the U.S. illegallysuccessfully deflected a federal judges court order and stonewalled three members of congress, in a display of executive branch muscle.
The night before, Judge Leonie Brinkema ordered CBP officials at the airport to let lawyers have access to legal permanent residents of the U.S. who were detained because of Trumps travel ban.
It was a court order from a federal judge, which meant it was enforceable by federal law enforcement. But immigration lawyers at Dulles said it didnt get adequately enforced. Instead, CBP kept the Dulles detaineesand it still isnt public how many lawful American residents were held there, and for how long from having face-to-face conversations with attorneys.
Instead, probably as a gesture toward compliance, immigration attorneys told The Daily Beast that they had learned detainees were provided with a copy of Judge Brinkemas order and a paper listing contact information for pro bono immigration attorneys based in Northern Virginia.
It isnt clear if those attorneys were on call on Sunday. It isnt clear if all the detainees had access to phones while they were being held. And it isnt clear why CBP barred the numerous volunteer immigration attorneys at hand on the airport from talking in person with people being held.
And their need for attorneys was urgent. Slate reported that at least two detaineesa 19-year-old and a 21-year-old, both citizens of Yemensigned away their green cards while they were in detention without access to lawyers.
It was the worst nightmare for the volunteer lawyers at Dulles: that CBP would be able to nab a public relations win by releasing detaineesbut without the public realizing that the agency may have bullied some of those detainees into ceding their rights to live in the United States.
Brinkemas order, which was just a few lines long, directed CBP to permit lawyers access to all legal permanent residents being detained at Dulles International Airport.
Lawyers at the airport, who spent hours waiting and hoping to be able to meet with travelers who were held by CBP, said they were deeply distressed that no one forced the agency to comply more fully with Brinkemas order.
On Sunday morning, the Legal Aid Justice Center and Mayer Brown law firmwho filed the suitreleased statement saying they would monitor CBP to be sure it did as Brinkema ordered.
U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) has recently confirmed that it has modified its practices with respect to LPR persons in response to the federal courts temporary restraining order, the statement said. We are monitoring CBPs new practices to ensure rigid adherence and to determine if they comply with the judicial directive.
Some immigration attorneys at Dulles want CBP held in contempt of court.
Hassan Ahmadan immigration attorney who carried a sign that said See something? Say something! (To me; Im a lawyer)told The Daily Beast he was frustrated that 24 hours after Brinkema released her order, CBP seemed to be defying it.
We still havent talked to a client, said Ahmad, who is with the HMA Law Firm in McLean, Va. And that is proving serious Constitutional problems for access to counsel. Rights are being violated.
He wasnt satisfied with the phone numbers that CBP gave detainees.
#1: GrandIsland To: Gatlin (#0)
Well, diaperhead, that's because illegals DONT HAVE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS... until they are legal.
GrandIsland posted on 2017-01-30 08:20:06 Reply Private Reply
#2: nolu chan To: GrandIsland, Gatlin (#1)
I believe that statement overreaches and is clearly incorrect.
Some constitutional rights explicitly protect persons and apply to all persons within the United States.
These people are persons, however, they arrived at the port of entry and were not immediately granted admission and were detained. They were detained in the neutral zone and as a legal technically or legal fiction, they are not considered to have entered the United States. They are arriving aliens. An "arriving alien" seeking admission does not enjoy constitutional rights. It is unclear what law the judge is applying.
They do not have a right to an attorney appointed to them; this is not a criminal matter. They would only be awaiting an administrative proceeding.
Unless one of the detained people has retained his services, Ahmad does not have a client.
The judge's order reads in part:
While impressive sounding, there may not be any detained person who held the status of "legal permanent resident" as opposed to the status of "arriving alien."
These are not deportation cases as the subjects are not in the country. These are exclusion cases potentially leading to removal.
In the act shown below, if an immigration officer or an immigration judge suspects that an "arriving alien" may be inadmissible on security and related grounds, an order of removal may be issued without further hearing, subject to review by the Attorney General; and if the Attorney does not order the removal of the alien, the Attorney General shall specify the further inquiry or hearing that shall be conducted in the case.
It is not clear what right to an attorney the judge is enforcing, or what an attorney could do if he had an attorney. It is not clear how an attorney, not representing a client, has a right to see his non-existent client.
They retain the status of "arriving alien" and an Immigration Judge lacks jurisdiction to do anything.
An "arriving alien" per 8 C.F.R § 1.1(q):
An "arriving alien" remains such even if he or she is physically present in the United States. As a legal fiction, he or she is still outside the door, trying to get in.
There is a special consideration for a alien with legal permanent resident (green card) status, see Matter of Alcibiades Antonio PENA, link, full citation, and quote below.
However, the cited 8 U.S.C. § 1101(a)(13)(C) seems to extinguish any claim to not being an "arriving alien."
That appears to precisely describe the situation of the arriving aliens who were detained after they were inspected by an immigration officer and not granted admission.
So, it appears their legal status is that of "arriving alien," not "legal permanent resident", until they are granted admission.
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SOURCES:
http://immigrationcourtside.com/category/courts/edva/judge-leonie-brinkema/
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https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcp/rule_65
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https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/ocomm/ilink/0-0-0-10948.html
Pub. L. 104-208
Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996
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https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/eoir/legacy/2014/07/25/3344.pdf
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https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/sites/default/files/practice_advisory/ar_alien.pdf
Getting into the weeds on "arriving alien."
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https://www.justice.gov/eoir/file/478111/download
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http://law.justia.com/codes/us/2014/title-8/chapter-12/subchapter-i/sec.-1101/
8 U.S.C. 1101(a)(13)(C)
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nolu chan posted on 2017-01-31 04:45:30 Reply Private Reply
#3: GrandIsland To: nolu chan (#2)
I believe that at some point, this exact question needs to be decided by the USC. We've become weakened by over sensitivity... and aside from the libtards in this country using over sensitivity as a means to use our kindness as weakness, the rest of the filthy world is too. It's why that Ricky Ricardo looking mother fuker from Mexico won't police his own scum from invading us... it's what keeps other countries smiling with lopsided trade deals with us... it's what keeps us from waterboarding smelly diaper head shitbags for Intel, for our own SECURITY... it's what keeps our borders open, 24/7 like WalMart.... it's what fuels NARCANing a heroine shitbird for the 5th time as we snub out natural selection at work... it's what causes LIBERALNESS and taxing into 20 trillion dollar deficits.
Americans should have "constitutional rights" only... and everyone else, until Americanized LEGALLY, should only be looked at as having BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS.
Then, that cunt Elizabeth Warren, can shut her filthy Agitation Propagandist twat licker at the airports.
GrandIsland posted on 2017-01-31 07:36:20 Reply Private Reply
#4: nolu chan To: GrandIsland (#3)
If that is wanted, it should be done by amendment and not by the USSC.
The constitutional phrasing is clear when it refers to the aggregate of American citizens as "the people." The phrasing is equally clear when it intends to be inclusive of more than just the people of the United States using the term "all persons;" or "no person," or "any person."
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nolu chan posted on 2017-01-31 17:50:18 Reply Private Reply
#5: GrandIsland To: nolu chan (#4)
If any person means a non-American or non-citizen, then our founding fathers were HIGH when they wrote this.
GrandIsland posted on 2017-01-31 18:43:40 Reply Private Reply
#6: randge To: nolu chan (#4)
It's not a deprivation of rights to lawfully remove persons who have come here unlawfully and return those persons to their country of origin.
To argue to the contrary is ridiculous. Else anyone could arrive here from anywhere, and folks would continue to come claiming "equal protection of the laws" until the boat was swamped to the gunwales and ready to tip over. And we're getting to that point.
NO NATION affords any and all comers such rights although some northern hemisphere nations are coming perilously close - so close that rebellions are brewing in countries that have proven themselves so suicidally charitable.
randge posted on 2017-01-31 19:10:34 Reply Private Reply
#7: nolu chan To: GrandIsland (#5)
It is patently obvious that "any person" includes citizen and non-citizen alike.
If you were correct, a state may deprive aliens of life without due process of law.
Can a state lawfully sentence an alien to death without a trial? Can an alien be lawfully sentenced to death by a procedure which denied him assistance of attorney or a jury?
If the alien enjoys NO constitutional rights, from where does he obtain a right to a jury trial and assistance of attorney?
There are some constitutional rights that apply to all persons in the United States.
The Framers were not high when writing the Constitution. Were aliens here to be denied all rights provided to citizens, reciprocal action would be taken against Americans by other nations.
nolu chan posted on 2017-01-31 22:05:42 Reply Private Reply
#8: nolu chan To: randge (#6)
It is not a deprivation of rights to remove persons who have arrived here unlawfully. I made no argument that such was the case. I only observed that there are some constitutional rights which apply to both citizens and aliens.
There are some circumstances under which an alien may not be returned to his country of origin. The country of origin may refuse to accept them, or returning them there could to the harm or death of the alien. That does not mean the alien must be admitted, but we may have to shop about for a country willing to accept them.
These same rights do not apply to aliens at a border entry point, requesting admission. There is no right to admission.
The President may, by proclamation, for such period as he deems necessary, suspend the entry of any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants.
http://law.justia.com/codes/us/2013/title-8/chapter-12/subchapter-ii/part-ii/section-1182/
Inadmissible aliens - 8 U.S.C. § 1182 (2013)
8 U.S.C. § 1182(f) (2013)
nolu chan posted on 2017-01-31 22:06:55 Reply Private Reply