Cannelton, IN Volunteer Fire Chief Christopher Herzog was recently arrested for attempting to prevent a police officer from making a fire worse. However, the police version of the story makes it sound like Herzog was some crazed assailant attacking heroes. Now, the firefighter is facing a felony.
When kindergartners are taught to stop drop and roll, they are also taught that fire feeds on oxygen and that sometimes a suddenly opened door or window could cause a fire. Unfortunately, Cannelton police officer Ryen Foertsch did not get the memo.
Foertsch was at the location of the fire and in plain clothes, not dressed as an officer and was attempting to smash in one of the windows of the house, a move that could have obviously made the fire far worse. Herzog arrived on the scene to witness the blunder, and attempted to prevent the officer from literally adding fuel to the fire, and tried to get him away from the house.
Sensing that his authority was being threatened, Foertsch arrested the fire chief as the house continued to burn.
To make matters worse, as the house burned, the police ordered the remaining fire crew off of the property, preventing them from doing their jobs and putting lives and property at risk. Officer Foertsch claims that Herzog was shouting obscenities at him and shoving him. However, Herzog says that he was simply attempted to diffuse a dangerous situation, and even if he was shouting at the officer, he had every right to considering the circumstances.
Chris Zukeschwerdt, the man who owns the house that was burning, was horrified by the encounter that he witnessed.
I was in shock. When I saw the faces of those firefighters to see their leader being pulled out of here while he was fighting a fire was just unreal, Zukeschwerdt said.
Zukeschwerdt said that he heard the chief yell to the other firefighters to stay and make sure the fire was put out, as he was dragged away in handcuffs. However, he says that next the police officers took over the scene and ordered the firefighters to leave.
Were in charge of this scene now, Zukeschwerdt says he heard an officer say. Zukeschwerdt said at that point, a lot of the fire department guys started saying lets grab out gear and go.
Sadly, after the chief was arrested and the other firefighters sent away, the police officers did nothing and allowed the fire to completely destroy the house. Herzog was taken into custody and lodged in the Perry County Jail on a charge of battery against a public safety official, a level 6 felony.
Soon after the arrest, Herzog was bailed out of jail by Cannelton Mayor Mary Snyder.
It is important to note that the National Incident Management System, which sets national standards for first responders in emergencies such as this, states that the first fire unit arriving on the scene of a house fire are the ones to take command of the incident, which means that Herzog was within his rights to take charge of the situation when he arrived on the scene.
It seems that officer Foertsch was more concerned with his own ego and perceived authority than he was with saving lives, which is a dangerous consequence of giving a person unlimited power.
#6: Deckard To: Vinny (#5)
Soon after the arrest, Herzog was bailed out of jail by Cannelton Mayor Mary Snyder.
You think the Mayor would have bailed him out had he been drunk?
Deckard posted on 2016-12-31 10:48:46 Reply Private Reply
#7: Gatlin To: Roscoe (#3)
Does to hear the rest of the story mean to hear the events following to the arrest?
Or is it what Paul Harvey meant when he said and now for the rest of the story, you were to hear the true story?
Gatlin posted on 2016-12-31 10:51:57 Reply Private Reply
#8: Gatlin To: Deckard, Roscoe, Vinny (#4)
Have you set a precedent here that we all may regard as an example and guide to be considered in your future posts?
We can only vaguely hope so and that this is a prelude to you becoming truthfully objective
Gatlin posted on 2016-12-31 11:19:43 Reply Private Reply
#9: Vinny To: Deckard (#6)
KooK, should I get stewed like Herzog, then pick a fight with cops at a fire scene, my pic will be available, not before. Now beat it dimwit, and go pick a fight with a cop. I'd love to see you deposited head first in a garbage dumpster.
Vinny posted on 2016-12-31 11:35:06 Reply Private Reply
#10: Gatlin To: Deckard, Vinny (#6)
Your analogy for as a supporting purpose is deserving of derisive ridiculing mockery.
And .I just finished doing just that.
Gatlin posted on 2016-12-31 11:57:55 Reply Private Reply
#11: Deckard To: Vinny (#9)
Your statement borders on slander.
There is absolutely no evidence that Herzog was "stewed".
This is just another example of the arrogance of cops.
The Fire Department Chief has control of the scene, not the police.
Deckard posted on 2016-12-31 12:00:08 Reply Private Reply
#12: Deckard To: Gatlin (#8)
Common sense tells anyone that this is a fact.
Deckard posted on 2016-12-31 12:01:27 Reply Private Reply
#13: A K A Stone To: Roscoe (#3)
You obviously didn't watch the video. Which is part of the article.
A K A Stone posted on 2016-12-31 12:14:08 Reply Private Reply
#14: Vinny To: Deckard (#11)
KooK, his face is red and his nose basically blinks. He's stewed to the balls. Even someone with your remedial education and drug addled brain should be capable of seeing that.
Vinny posted on 2016-12-31 12:18:33 Reply Private Reply
#15: Roscoe To: A K A Stone (#13)
No, you obviously didn't watch the video. None of the footage aired of the event contradicted anything I posted.
Read it again, man up, and apologize.
Roscoe posted on 2016-12-31 12:22:45 Reply Private Reply
#16: Deckard To: Vinny (#14)
Please state your evidence that Herzog was drunk.
Oh, you can't?
Typical.
Deckard posted on 2016-12-31 12:24:44 Reply Private Reply
#17: Deckard To: Roscoe, A K A Stone (#13)
That isn't their job at a fire scene unless requested by the Fire Chief, who has command.
Deckard posted on 2016-12-31 12:26:46 Reply Private Reply
#18: Roscoe To: Deckard (#17)
Please state your evidence that it isn't their job at a fire scene unless requested by the Fire Chief, who has command.
Oh, you can't?
Typical.
Roscoe posted on 2016-12-31 12:29:44 Reply Private Reply
#19: A K A Stone To: Roscoe (#15)
You need reading comprehension classes.
You said the article did not mention..........
It was in the video. Hence my comment.
Try to pay attention. Try to keep up.
A K A Stone posted on 2016-12-31 12:44:24 Reply Private Reply
#20: buckeroo To: A K A Stone, roscoe (#19)
buckeroo posted on 2016-12-31 12:48:02 Reply Private Reply
#21: Roscoe To: A K A Stone (#19)
Roscoe posted on 2016-12-31 12:55:00 Reply Private Reply
#22: Gatlin To: Deckard, Roscoe, Vinny (#12)
Each PD, FD and EMS has published procedures to follow .or definitely should have .and each department coordinates with the other departments in establishing those procedures. There are a number of these procedures posted on the internet. All are basically the same, especially when relating to task priority. I randomly picked one to quote for you, it is from Phoenix:
As the IC, the volunteer fire chief was not following the tactical objectives.The cops arrived on the scene, recognized that, and the were following the procedure accepted as the published norm .they were checking for endangered occupants.
Something the volunteer fire chief should already have done .but obviously had not since he violently tried to stop the cops from performing the correct task.
The volunteer fire chief was apparently too shot in the ass with his authority and position to follow standard procedures and he got belligerent ..like might be expected from an uncompromising drunkard.
Screw that! Breaking windows might cause the house burn faster but a house can be replaced. The life of an unconscious person who may be in the room the officer was breaking the glass for entry .cannot be replaced. He definitely got carried away!And the rest of the statement is pure BULLSHIT for you dont blindly follow orders [as you have said numerous times] when you know those orders are totally incorrect, completely asinine and lives may be endangered.
The fire chief was wrong .and the fire chief was arrested
The cops were not wrong and the cops were not arrested.
Hey, asshole, stop with your damned whining
Gatlin posted on 2016-12-31 13:12:33 Reply Private Reply
#23: Roscoe To: Gatlin (#22)
Roscoe posted on 2016-12-31 13:21:29 Reply Private Reply
#24: Gatlin To: Deckard, Roscoe, A K A Stone (#17)
The published normal procedure upon arriving at the scene of a fire is:
Again: The volunteer fire chief was WRONG in that he had not properly performed the first assigned task and then violently tried to prevent the cops for doing that.The cops recognized that the volunteer fire chief had NOT performed that task and THEY PERFORMED THE TASK.
The cops are to be commended, the incompetent hothead volunteer fire chief needed to be arrested .HE WAS.
Gatlin posted on 2016-12-31 13:27:47 Reply Private Reply
#25: Gatlin To: Roscoe (#23)
These cop-hating assholes are oblivious to checking facts .they ignore them.
All that matters is their agenda and personal opinions.
Disgraceful
Gatlin posted on 2016-12-31 13:32:31 Reply Private Reply
#26: Gatlin To: Deckard, Vinny (#11)
TOO FUNNY
The volunteer fire chief lost control of himself at the scene and acted irrationally, not the police.
Gatlin posted on 2016-12-31 13:54:02 Reply Private Reply
#27: GrandIsland To: Deckard (#0)
And this YELLA journalistic piece of shit is just as slanted.
GrandIsland posted on 2016-12-31 14:04:06 Reply Private Reply
#28: buckeroo To: Gatlin (#25)
Yes you are, sucking yukon's asshole. You are a queer, just like him.
buckeroo posted on 2016-12-31 14:04:44 Reply Private Reply
#29: Hondo68 To: Gatlin, Roscoe, Deckard (#25)
Proving that the Fire Chief was right, and the arsonist cops fueled the fire, and rekindled it, and burned the house.
The Fire Chief will be found, NOT GUILTY. The fact that he was arrested is just further testimony to the incompetence and malice of the scofflaw pigs.
Hondo68 posted on 2016-12-31 14:08:34 Reply Private Reply
#30: Roscoe To: GrandIsland (#27)
Roscoe posted on 2016-12-31 14:10:42 Reply Private Reply
#31: Roscoe To: hondo68 (#29)
Roscoe posted on 2016-12-31 14:12:36 Reply Private Reply
#32: A K A Stone To: Roscoe (#21)
I pointed out that in fact that video did in fact mention that. So I was right and you have a reading comprehension problem.
So shut your pathetic pie hole.
A K A Stone posted on 2016-12-31 15:03:22 Reply Private Reply
#33: Roscoe To: A K A Stone (#32)
Roscoe posted on 2016-12-31 15:28:24 Reply Private Reply
#34: Gatlin To: Deckard. Vinny (#16)
You said to me after ONLY reading an article, that:
Then Vinny said to you, that Then you have the unmitigated gall to challenge Vinny to: You need to stop with your continued hypocritical double standard in that it is okay if you use something but then let your total absence of any good moral principles apply to be condemningly different and more rigorously judgmental to someone in a another circumstance using the same methodology.You straying from the accepted right and normal way of objectively analyzing something and deviating into La La Land is so atypical of a sane and rational person.
At least try to stay consistent while living in your warped world
Gatlin posted on 2016-12-31 15:53:00 Reply Private Reply
#35: Deckard To: GrandIsland (#27)
Who has authority at a fire scene, the Fire Chief or a patrolman?
Deckard posted on 2016-12-31 15:57:03 Reply Private Reply
#36: Deckard To: hondo68, Gatlin, Roscoe (#29)
Most likely due to the "police officer" breaking the windows.
I say let the experts handle a fire, the cops should only be there to direct traffic.
Deckard posted on 2016-12-31 15:59:58 Reply Private Reply
#37: Deckard To: Roscoe (#18)
Oh gee, the Fire Chief has the training and experience fighting fires.
The cops - not so much.
But if it is your contention that cops should be placed in charge of residential fire scenes, people will die as a result.
Do you really want that?
Deckard posted on 2016-12-31 16:12:36 Reply Private Reply
#38: Deckard To: Gatlin (#22)
Oh, so that's your rationale now?
There is no evidence to show that the Fire Department failed to search the house. It makes sense to me that experienced and highly trained firefighters would know to do that first.
To make matters worse, as the house burned, the police ordered the remaining fire crew off of the property, preventing them from doing their jobs and putting lives and property at risk.
Apparently the cops were not really interested public safety.
It was just another example of an arrogant cop flexing his authoritah when he should have been directing traffic or fetching donuts and coffee for the real heroes.
Deckard posted on 2016-12-31 16:22:56 Reply Private Reply
#39: Deckard To: Roscoe, A K A Stone (#33)
Just a suggestion - maybe you could get an update on your 64K phone modem so you are able to watch videos and not appear to be so much of a lying assclown.
Deckard posted on 2016-12-31 16:26:11 Reply Private Reply
#40: Gatlin To: Deckard GrendIsland (#35)
Furthermore, a better question to ask: Is a patrolman allowed to take direct action when a volunteer fire chief does not follow the published procedure and lives may be endangered because of that?
The volunteer fire chief did NOT check the house for any endangered occupants. He was negligent in his duty by not following established procedure.
Follow Up Question: Since the volunteer fire chief did not perform his duty at all .then is the patrolman to stand down and not check the house for occupants after an irresponsible hothead volunteer fire chief abdicated his duties and acted irrationally by not following published procedures?
Any volunteer fire chief who lost control of himself at the scene and reacts violently by physically attacking a Public Safety Official should be arrested and relieved of his duty as the volunteer fire chief.
The Indiana State Troopers independently investigate the incident and they arrested the volunteer fire chief.
Gatlin posted on 2016-12-31 16:26:24 Reply Private Reply
#41: Deckard To: Gatlin (#34)
Thanks for your cooperation.
Deckard posted on 2016-12-31 16:28:37 Reply Private Reply
#42: Roscoe To: Deckard (#36)
Your posted article doesn't say he broke the window. It shows that he was feloniously assaulted while he was "attempting to smash in one of the windows of the house."
You can't even keep your lies straight.
Roscoe posted on 2016-12-31 16:30:13 Reply Private Reply
#43: Roscoe To: Deckard (#39)
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Craven bitch #2.
Roscoe posted on 2016-12-31 16:32:07 Reply Private Reply
#44: Roscoe To: Deckard (#37)
What a coward.
I'll try again: Please state your evidence that it isn't their job at a fire scene unless requested by the Fire Chief, who has command.
Roscoe posted on 2016-12-31 16:35:08 Reply Private Reply
#45: Roscoe To: Gatlin (#40)
He'll flee your point, gibbering in angry terror.
Roscoe posted on 2016-12-31 16:36:29 Reply Private Reply
#46: Vinny To: Deckard (#37)
KooK, tell that to the families of the 60 cops who died while evacuating the fire engulfed Twin Towers on 9/11.
Vinny posted on 2016-12-31 16:37:14 Reply Private Reply
#47: Roscoe To: Vinny (#46)
You nuked him.
Roscoe posted on 2016-12-31 16:39:46 Reply Private Reply
#48: Gatlin To: Deckard, Roscoe (#36)
Besides, you need to read and comprehend the yellow journalism article you posted.
That was when the volunteer fire chief got into the fray with the cop. There is NO report that the window was ever smashed. I say that if the volunteer fire chief had been an expert, then he would have followed published procedures and checked the house for occupants. He did not. The cop was doing that, the duty unfulfilled by the irresponsible volunteer fire chief.Gatlin posted on 2016-12-31 16:43:22 Reply Private Reply
#49: Deckard To: Vinny (#46)
Oh - were those cops also fighting the fires?
Deckard posted on 2016-12-31 16:44:11 Reply Private Reply
#50: Vinny To: Deckard (#49)
Vinny posted on 2016-12-31 16:50:56 Reply Private Reply
#51: Gatlin To: Deckard, Roscoe (#37)
Gatlin posted on 2016-12-31 16:54:56 Reply Private Reply
#52: Deckard To: Vinny (#50)
Foertsch was at the location of the fire and in plain clothes, not dressed as an officer and was attempting to smash in one of the windows of the house, a move that could have obviously made the fire far worse.
Deckard posted on 2016-12-31 16:58:46 Reply Private Reply
#53: Gatlin To: Deckard (#41)
Non sequitur.
Ridiculous ...
Gatlin posted on 2016-12-31 16:59:38 Reply Private Reply
#54: Roscoe To: Gatlin (#51)
Roscoe posted on 2016-12-31 17:02:57 Reply Private Reply
#55: Gatlin To: Deckard (#38)
Gatlin posted on 2016-12-31 17:04:49 Reply Private Reply