Lose debate, change story.

Uh, no - I haven't lost the debate and I'm not changing my story.

I merely pointed out that this was not an isolated incident. Cops have interfered with firefighters doing their jobs before and they will do it again.

Why? Because they just don't learn.

Maybe more lawsuits like the one I posted above would be the answer.

At any rate, the felony charges against the Chief will be dropped, unless the badged "heroes" want to make an example out of him.

By doing so however they will only increase the tension between firefighters and cops - nobody wants to see that.

Pursuing criminal charges against Fire Chief Christopher Herzog will ultimately put lives and property in danger.

This is more like swatting flies.

Oh - you mean the HOMEOWNER who was at the scene of the fire the entire time?

First, said: “… their leader being pulled out of here while he was fighting a fire.”

Then a couple line down in the article, said: “They pulled the fire chief out while the fire was still smoldering.”

I do mean the homeowner who cannot keep his story straight each time he tells it.

Eyewitness reports are notoriously unreliable.

Embellishments of memory are the unreliable nature of eyewitness reports.

Oh, BTW - this isn't the first time a cop has arrested a firefighter for doing his job.

Uh, no - I haven't lost the debate …

It is nowhere near a Level 6 Felony, unless of course you believe that a heroic public servant pushing a badged "hero" rises to that level of criminality.

Oh yeah - he [Zukeschwerdt] must be lying, right?

Eyewitness reports are notoriously unreliable.

Don’t believe that…then check these links out.

This is more like swatting flies.

In the case with Deckard...like swatting a pesky gnat.

Eyewitness reports are notoriously unreliable.

You've convinced me that the eyewitness cops are clueless.

Matt Agorist from the Free Thought Project takes a more balanced view, collects observations from a number of eyewitnesses, as well as newscrews covering the event.

Plus, he's not a CT freak like you! Your attempts to parse the homeowners comments are ridiculous. There are no contradictions, k0oK!

First, said: “… their leader being pulled out of here while he was fighting a fire.”

Then a couple line down in the article, said: “They pulled the fire chief out while the fire was still smoldering.”

Seriously? That's all you got?

There is NO discrepancy in those two statements.

A smoldering fire IS STILL a fire.

Oh, BTW - this isn't the first time a cop has arrested a firefighter for doing his job.

Non sequitur….trying to change the dynamics of this story and deflect.

I merely pointed out that this kind of behavior has been displayed in the past by cops who stopped firemen from doing their jobs.

The Indiana State Police believed it was a Level 6 Felony, when the independently investigated the incident and charged the volunteer fire chief….and of course that is the belief that mattered

Do you believe that the charges should be dropped?

Prosecuting a heroic firefighter doing his job controlling the scene and pushing a cop out of the way does not do anyone any good.

Lives and property will be at risk due to the animosity between the cops and firefighters which will be exacerbated by a felony conviction against the Chief.

I'm sure we can all admit that this situation could have been avoided if the cop would have checked his ego at the door and allowed the firefighters to do their jobs.

I saw it once on live TV and never again - not that I did a thorough search for it or anything.

I merely pointed out ...

Which was a complete waste, since it had no relationship to the volunteer fire chief blowing up and losing his tempter to physically attack a law enforcement officer and then be arrested for a Class 6 Felony.

Please try to stay on topic….I realize it must be hard for you to do so.

Prosecuting a heroic firefighter doing his job controlling the scene and pushing a cop out of the way does not do anyone any good.

Lives and property will be at risk due to the animosity between the cops and firefighters which will be exacerbated by a felony conviction against the Chief.

I'm sure we can all admit that this situation could have been avoided if the cop would have checked his ego at the door and allowed the firefighters to do their jobs.

Do you believe that the charges should be dropped?

The nincompoop publically displayed that he is a high tempered hot head who acts irrationally and irresponsibly which makes him mentally incapable to continue acting in his capacity as volunteer fire chief.

The nincompoop publically displayed that he is a high tempered hot head

The heroic Fire Chief was doing his job saving lives and property when an ego-centric police officer decided to flex his authoritah and proclaim that HE was now the boss at the scene.

A simple fact that even you should be able to grasp.

As far as apologies, both sides should apologize and end the ongoing animosity that will threaten the lives and property of the town's citizens.

The heroic Fire Chief was doing his job ...

... both sides should apologize ...

It was not his job to lose his temper and attack the policeman.

The policeman has nothing to apologize for.

The heroic Fire Chief was doing his job

Nope

A smoldering fire IS STILL a fire.

Nope!

This is a house fire:

This is a house that was on fire and is now smoldering:

There is a BIG difference.

The point that being made by Zukeschwerdt was the relativity….the active burning had finished.

Oh, BTW - this isn't the first time a cop has arrested a firefighter for doing his job.

I've done it. That's what happens when they drive to the scene intoxicated.

Oh, BTW - this isn't the first time a cop has arrested a firefighter for doing his job.

I've done it. That's what happens when they drive to the scene intoxicated.

That was a strikingly amusing remark….quite a beautiful ZINGER.

Oh, BTW - this isn't the first time a cop has arrested a firefighter for doing his job.

I've done it. That's what happens when they drive to the scene intoxicated.

Driving while intoxicated is NOT within the parameters of "doing his job", and there is no evidence here to indicate that Chief Herzog was intoxicated.

I can see that happening with volunteer fire departments - guy is in a bar or at home having a couple of beers, gets the call and rushes to the scene.

In that situation, maybe you cut the guy a break and drive him to the fire, depending on his level of intoxication, the severity of the fire and whether his presence was vital to the firefighting effort.

You can always haul him in afterwards.

Okey dokey.

I hate to step on your toes, tater, but where there is smoke, there is fire

Sometimes the simplest concepts are the most difficult for him to understand.

The heroic Fire Chief was doing his job ...

... both sides should apologize ...

It was not his job to lose his temper and attack the policeman.

It God damned well was if the cop, to show his ass, was trying to prevent him from doing his job of putting out the fire. The cop, along with those making excuses for him, should have been sentenced to replace the owner's home.

The article he posted did not mention it. The article he linked to did not mention it. Now. like a craven bitch, you whine that the article linked to an article that linked to a video, and pretend you've made a point. You didn't.

It is in the video on this site with the article.

Here it is again since you are to dumb to find it on your own.

It is in the video

You're pathetic.

ar·ti·cle
noun
a piece of writing included with others in a newspaper, magazine, or other publication.

You obviously didn't watch the video. Which is part of the article.

A K A Stone posted on 2016-12-31

Like I said reading comprehension problems.

"Look you fucking dumb ass. You said the article didn't say anything about an officer looking for possible victims."

Moving the goalpost. Again. Craven.

You obviously didn't watch the video. Which is part of the article. A K A Stone posted on 2016-12-31

Shut up already. Man up and admit you wasn't paying attention.

The video is part of the article. It was always there.

I just mentioned "you obviously didn't watch the video. Which is part of the article."

Have a nice new year.

The video is part of the article.

You lied. You got busted. Dry your craven tears.

" the cop, to show his ass, was trying to prevent him from doing his job of putting out the fire. The cop, along with those making excuses for him, should have been sentenced to replace the owner's home. "

Robert, I suspect the property owners insurance company's lawyers, and a jury, will have the final say in this matter.

The video is part of the article. You lied. You got busted. Dry your craven tears.

The video was there all along.

You are really boring me and wasting my time.

Maybe it is time to flush you down the toilet.

Maybe it is time to flush you down the toilet.

Craven bitch.

Got ya.

you have a reading comprehension problem.

Proverbs 26:11 As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly.

ar·ti·cle
noun
a piece of writing included with others in a newspaper, magazine, or other publication.

I hope you enjoyed your beating.

You're just playing semantics.

Point is you didn't watch the video which was included with the article, and being included with it is part of the article.

So you were wrong when you said there was no mention of police looking for people to help.

I'm done talking to you about this. Have a nice new year.

Maybe it is time to flush you down the toilet.

And make this place go from dead to deader.

And make this place go from dead to deader.

You drug addict loving agenda posters make the site only pleasant for you... because all you liberal assholes always gotta act like Ferguson zoo animals when you don't get your way or your liberal hero (or whore) isn't elected.

The intolerance and anarchist behavior stems from the AGENDA posters.... you assholes stunk up FR, then you shit all over LP... and now you have this fucking place only enjoyable if you love drug addicts, faggots... and you hate cops and the rich.

You filthy assholes have always been one great big smelly hippie OCCUPY type cult. All fucking 6% of you.

It ain't Stones fault.