A federal court in Grand Rapids, Michigan, ruled that police can shoot a dog while entering a home if the animal moves or barks in the officers presence.
The decision is the final step in a case brought to court by Mark and Cheryl Brown of Battle Creek, whose pit bull was killed while officers were executing a search warrant on their home in 2013.
The couple claimed that officers unlawfully seized their property in violation of the Fourth Amendment when officers shot and killed two dogs while executing a search warrant.
An officer testified that he shot the first dog when it appeared to move a few inches and lunged at him. The dog fled to the basement, where the officer shot and killed it. Court documents reveal that another officer killed the second dog after it too ran to the basement and barked at the officers.
Judge Eric Clays decision ruled that the Browns failed to provide evidence that the first dog did not lunge at police and that the second dog did not bark.
Given the totality of the circumstances and viewed from the perspective of an objectively reasonable officer, the dog poses an imminent threat to the officers safety, the ruling reads. The standard we set out today is that a police officers use of deadly force against a dog while executing a search warrant to search a home for illegal drug activity is reasonable under the Fourth Amendment when the dog poses an imminent threat to the officers safety.
#1: Gatlin To: Justified (#0)
Oh no .now you have dont it .all Hell is about to erupt.
You posting this ruling is sure to throw the Paultard libertarian cop-hating assholes into a fit which will create a spell of violent mental excitement and extreme mental agitation heretofore undemonstrated.
This paroxysm will completely blow their frigging minds .at least what little they have left operating.
Gatlin posted on 2016-12-29 08:53:51 Reply Private Reply
#2: Deckard To: Justified (#0)
And the police state mechanism is ratcheted a little tighter.
Carte blanche for sadistic cops to get their jollies by killing a pet. They don't even have to use the ubiquitous "I feared for my life" bullshit.
Doesn't matter if the dog moves in a friendly way or barks as a greeting - only that it does so "in the officer's presence".
Puppycides will now increase ten-fold.
Deckard posted on 2016-12-29 09:36:45 Reply Private Reply
#3: Deckard To: Gatlin (#1)
Deckard posted on 2016-12-29 09:38:11 Reply Private Reply
#4: Stoner To: Justified (#0)
Stoner posted on 2016-12-29 10:10:41 Reply Private Reply
#5: Deckard To: Stoner (#4)
I have a question - where the hell is PETA on all of these dog killings by cops?
Good grief! You'd think they would at least acknowledge the problem and make folks aware of it..
Deckard posted on 2016-12-29 10:13:14 Reply Private Reply
#6: Stoner To: Deckard (#5)
Damn good question!
I suspect that PETA is not really what they purport themselves to believe. I suspect they are a phony fundraising operation.
If one wants to donate to animal charity, best to donate to local shelters. And/or adopt/rescue from that shelter.
Stoner posted on 2016-12-29 10:46:14 Reply Private Reply
#7: Deckard To: Stoner, Gatlin, Justified (#6)
Dogs bark - that's what they do when they see a stranger.
The cops come in with armor covering their entire bodies, and they fear a dog?
Pussies, all of them. Postal workers and delivery people have more balls than most cops.
Deckard posted on 2016-12-29 10:51:56 Reply Private Reply
#8: Deckard To: Stoner (#6)
Federal Court Rules Police Can Shoot a Barking or Moving Dog While Entering a Home
Deckard posted on 2016-12-29 10:57:06 Reply Private Reply
#9: misterwhite To: Justified (#0)
No. They did not.
The standard we set out today is that a police officers use of deadly force against a dog while executing a search warrant to search a home for illegal drug activity is reasonable under the Fourth Amendment when the dog poses an imminent threat to the officers safety.
misterwhite posted on 2016-12-29 10:58:31 Reply Private Reply
#10: Deckard To: misterwhite (#9)
Your police state stench is particularly odious today paulsen.
Deckard posted on 2016-12-29 11:04:26 Reply Private Reply
#11: jeremiad To: Deckard (#2)
jeremiad posted on 2016-12-29 11:08:55 Reply Private Reply
#12: Justified To: Deckard (#7)
More like distracted and shot or maimed by a criminals dog.
If people fear police in America maybe they should move to Cuba, Valenzuela or anywhere ME!
BTW postal workers get maimed all the freaking time by dogs because stupid ass owners can't control their dogs! Thats just postal workers walking down the street and they know the lay of the land unlike police who get called out and have no clue what they are getting into or are they being set up to be attacked. The new thing for criminals is to get pits who are unregistered and use them as a weapon and then deny they own the dog.
If you be respectful of the police you will 99.999999999999% of the time not get harmed. You run, make funny moves, do something crazy with your hands you will get shot because you are to stupid to realize police just got a call and you fit the bill of someone of interest who is dangerous to everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Justified posted on 2016-12-29 11:21:04 Reply Private Reply
#13: Gatlin To: Deckard (#3)
Gatlin posted on 2016-12-29 11:36:20 Reply Private Reply
#14: Deckard To: Justified (#12)
'When the people fear the government there is tyranny, when the government fears the people there is liberty.'
Deckard posted on 2016-12-29 12:45:19 Reply Private Reply
#15: Justified To: Deckard (#14)
I don't like so many traffic laws but hey its not the polices fault its our fault for letting politicians make over burdensome laws.
Justified posted on 2016-12-29 13:25:12 Reply Private Reply
#16: Deckard To: Justified (#15)
I agree about the burdensome laws - there are just so many laws nowdays that it's been said that the average American commits a felony three times a day.
I would also agree that the individual police officers are sometimes not the real problem - it's the cop culture and the fact that numerous times the bad cops who are fired for criminal actions are rehired by other police departments. Also "good cops" who blow the whistle on "bad" cops are ostracized, demoted, fired and/or threatened.
In addition - cops are not individually accountable when they do kill an innocent citizen - it's the taxpayers who foot the bill for the lawsuit.
It should be required for individual officers to carry some sort of "malpractice" insurance, much in the same way doctors do.
If a doctor messes up an operation, HIS insurance pays the lawsuit. When a cop messes up and kills someone, even when found guilty it's still you and I who foot the bill.
I don't fear police I fear my government and mainly federal government.
Police are the enforcement arm of government.
Deckard posted on 2016-12-29 13:33:21 Reply Private Reply
#17: Gatlin To: Deckard, Justified (#14)
And when assholes like you have as their defined purpose in life the sole intent to MAKE people fear the government, that is called libertarianism.
Gatlin posted on 2016-12-29 13:39:28 Reply Private Reply
#18: Deckard To: Gatlin (#17)
You give me far too much credit - the government has brought this mistrust upon themselves with decades of lying, corruption, wars based on lies and mass experimentation on its own citizens. Not to mention mass surveillance, militarized police, the PATRIOT Act, NDAA (look it up) and the loss of freedoms since 9/11
...that is called libertarianism.
You don't have a frigging clue what libertarianism is.
Deckard posted on 2016-12-29 13:43:04 Reply Private Reply
#19: rlk To: Justified (#0)
To establish clear statement that the family is next in line. The cop that wantonly shoots a family dog is to better than a criminal extortionist.
rlk posted on 2016-12-29 14:06:01 Reply Private Reply
#20: Gatlin To: Deckard (#18)
I do know that I want NO part of what you are displaying here on LF and calling libertarianism.
And I never will.
Gatlin posted on 2016-12-29 14:06:25 Reply Private Reply