Trump Scores His First Win in Congress

Source: MSM
Published: Nov 17, 2016
Author: staff
Post Date: 2016-11-17 21:57:23 by buckeroo
Views: 39751

It didn’t take long for President-elect Donald Trump to make his mark on legislation in Congress.

Republican leaders announced Thursday they would punt major spending decisions into 2017 in accordance with the incoming administration’s wishes. That means Congress plans to pass only a stopgap bill that will fund the federal government through March rather than an omnibus appropriations bill that would set spending priorities for the first eight months of Trump’s term.

“I think the new incoming government would like to have say-so on how money is going to be spent going into 2017,” House Speaker Paul Ryan told reporters at a press conference. “We’ve got a lot of funding priorities that we would like to have changed relative to the Obama funding priorities. It’s as simple as that.” Had Hillary Clinton won the presidency, Congress in all likelihood would have pushed harder to strike a big spending agreement in its lame-duck session, a move that would have cleared the way for her to focus on other legislative priorities during her first weeks in office. But Republicans know they will get a better deal with Trump than under President Obama, so they will keep spending levels as they are for another few months by passing a continuing resolution in the next few weeks.

The decision was made after Vice President-elect Mike Pence met with House Republicans on Thursday morning and conveyed the Trump transition team’s preference. It’s also a victory for conservatives who have fought against passing any major legislation in a lame-duck session, arguing that lawmaking are less accountable to voters when they act after the election but before the new Congress is seated. They were angry last year when Congress passed a $1.1 trillion spending bill just before Christmas with little time for debate. For Ryan, the move additionally serves as political protection against a revolt that could threaten his reelection as speaker. While Republicans unanimously nominated him as their leader on Tuesday, a number of conservative members of the House Freedom Caucus warned that if Ryan either tried to pass an omnibus spending bill or approve the Trans-Pacific Partnership in the lame-duck session, they would vote against him during the formal House vote for speaker in early January. Both of those measures are now dead for the year.

The drawback for Trump is that he will now have to spend time and political capital on a debate over federal spending during his first months in office, at a time when he will be trying to get other items on his agenda through Congress. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi warned Republicans they might come to regret that decision. “I think they’re making a big mistake for themselves,” she said at her own press conference. “They’re going to have a kettle of fish in March that they can’t even imagine.”

Yet Republicans might have another reason for kicking the spending fight in 2017: It could allow them to roll back more regulations enacted by the Obama administration. Under the Congressional Review Act, the House and Senate can nullify major regulations with a simple majority vote if they act within 60 legislative days of the rule’s enactment. Simply passing a stopgap spending bill now would likely lead the GOP to adjourn Congress a few weeks earlier than planned. And that would stop the legislative clock and allow the House and Senate in January to repeal regulations that went into effect earlier in 2016. (Because Congress was out of session so often this year, the window of “60 legislative days” already stretches back to May.) According to an analysis by the conservative American Action Forum, Republicans would already be able to nullify 48 major regulations in January if Congress does not adjourn early, including rules expanding overtime pay, restricting personal drone use, curtailing drilling in the Arctic Shelf, and mandating significant changes to regulations on food labeling.

The GOP’s decision on Thursday, in other words, could have ramifications far beyond congressional spending.

I was wondering how 0bama is handling all this stuff?

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#4: misterwhite    To: Roscoe (#3)

"It looks like Ryan will be playing the part of Fredo."

To paraphrase, "Ryan has a good heart, but he's weak and he's stupid".

Ryan better hope his mother doesn't die in the next four years.

misterwhite posted on 2016-11-18 11:31:18   Reply   Private Reply

#5: Roscoe    To: misterwhite (#4)

And he shouldn't go fishing.

Roscoe posted on 2016-11-18 11:34:29   Reply   Private Reply

#6: buckeroo    To: Gatlin (#2)

I am more nervous about this nation's future than ever before. Standing at ease is only what a total idiot can do; this sounds a lot like you.

buckeroo posted on 2016-11-18 20:43:42   Reply   Private Reply

#7: Gatlin    To: buckeroo (#6)

I am more nervous about this nation's future than ever before. Standing at ease is only what a total idiot can do; this sounds a lot like you.

Let’s only discuss the first part for now:

I am more nervous about this nation's future than ever before.

Start by telling me: Why?

Gatlin posted on 2016-11-18 21:44:53   Reply   Private Reply

#8: buckeroo    To: Gatlin, GrandIsland (#7)

Why?

Trump is the kinda guy that rambles on & on & on but may act on his rambleness. As POTUS, he may get you mixed up with an illegal and ship you back to Zimbabwe where you may not be able to participate in the LF forum anymore; they have limited Internet capability.

Although, I would be happy to see you go, I can tell that GI would miss you.

buckeroo posted on 2016-11-18 21:56:25   Reply   Private Reply

#9: GrandIsland    To: buckeroo (#8)

I'm hoping TRUMP starts up FEMA camps just for PAULTARDs.

GrandIsland posted on 2016-11-18 22:01:52   Reply   Private Reply

#10: buckeroo    To: GrandIsland (#9)

Awesome! Three square meals a day are guaranteed! Any free beer in the formula?

buckeroo posted on 2016-11-18 22:05:59   Reply   Private Reply

#11: Deckard    To: GrandIsland, Gatlin, buckeroo (#9)

I'm hoping TRUMP starts up FEMA camps just for PAULTARDs.

You and others of your fascist ilk are why a Trump presidency concerns many of us here.

With rabid zealots like you in the mix, Trump has the potential to be 10 times worse than Obama

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#12: buckeroo    To: Deckard, tater, GrandIsland (#11)

With rabid zealots like you in the mix, Trump has the potential to be 10 times worse than Obama

I suspect they have prayer rugs and already prostrate themselves towards NewYork. Once, Trump gets his keys to the WhiteHouse, they will shift slightly by 1 degree to Washington DC and continue their mantra babble on a daily basis.

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#13: GrandIsland    To: Deckard (#11)

a Trump presidency concerns many of us here.

They make safe spaces for scared libtard faggots like you. Call your local college.

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#14: Gatlin    To: buckeroo (#8)

Trump is the kinda guy that rambles on & on & on but may act on his rambleness.

Specifically, what?

As POTUS, he may get you mixed up with an illegal and ship you back to Zimbabwe where you may not be able to participate in the LF forum anymore; they have limited Internet capability.

That’s not a specific….yet you talk about Trump rambling on & on & on.

List some of the specific rambles that cause you to be “more nervous about this nation's future than ever before.”

Gatlin posted on 2016-11-18 22:52:38   Reply   Private Reply

#15: Gatlin    To: Deckard, GrandIsland, Buckeroo (#11)

Trump presidency concerns many of us here.

Many?

You, buckeroo, hondope and Willy.

That’s not many….that’s only four.

Feel free to add any names to the list …

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#16: Gatlin    To: Deckard (#11)

Trump has the potential to be 10 times worse than Obama

Specifically, by doing what?

Gatlin posted on 2016-11-18 23:05:06   Reply   Private Reply

#17: Gatlin    To: buckeroo (#12)

I suspect they ….

Nah, I suspect they will be laughing their ass off at your unfounded reason for being “more nervous about this nation's future than ever before.”

I know that I will …

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#18: buckeroo    To: Gatlin (#14)

List some of the specific rambles that cause you to be “more nervous about this nation's future than ever before.”

I am starting to worry about you, tater. I am starting to wring my hands, in a cold sweat anymore and in tremendous tension because of, "Trump phenomena." Trump rambleness is included within the discussion, too. And, I guess it may not be all Trump's fault either. I think you caused the phenomena.

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#19: Gatlin    To: buckeroo (#18)

I am starting to worry about you, tater.

Put your worry aside for just a moment and: List some of the specific rambles that cause you to be “more nervous about this nation's future than ever before.”

Gatlin posted on 2016-11-18 23:14:58   Reply   Private Reply

#20: Gatlin    To: buckeroo (#18)

am starting to wring my hands, in a cold sweat anymore and in tremendous tension because of ...

Visceral Fear -

Although it can occasionally seem similar to anxiety, there is one kind of nervous reaction that does not give many false alarms and that you must never doubt. I call it visceral fear of harm. It's a feeling in your muscles and in your gut that you will be physically injured. Unlike anxiety, which is based in part on your imagination, visceral fear of harm is a response to physiological cues that your brain picks up when you are close to someone who feels aggressive. This visceral feeling comes over you more abruptly and with greater intensity than mere anxiety about having a bad evening or even a dread of distress, depression, and other worries that go with conflict or emotional abuse.

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#21: buckeroo    To: Gatlin (#19)

Put your worry aside for just a moment and: List some of the specific rambles that cause you to be “more nervous about this nation's future than ever before.”

Because you wear, "TRUMPER_ETTE" across your sweater while riding a battery powered scooter with three wheels in an old foggie's home? BTW, you have to lower your skirt lines or yukon will search for you, again.

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#22: Gatlin    To: buckeroo (#21)

List some of the specific rambles that cause you to be “more nervous about this nation's future than ever before.”

Gatlin posted on 2016-11-18 23:22:56   Reply   Private Reply

#23: Gatlin    To: Buckeroo (#20)

Have you let this presidential election trigger a visceral fear response you find hard to put into words?

Gatlin posted on 2016-11-18 23:26:20   Reply   Private Reply

#24: buckeroo    To: Gatlin (#23)

As Trump would tell you: the plans are in the ol' smokey backroom.

buckeroo posted on 2016-11-18 23:27:37   Reply   Private Reply

#25: Gatlin    To: buckeroo (#24)

As Trump would tell you:

"I'll Make America Great Again."

Gatlin posted on 2016-11-18 23:43:04   Reply   Private Reply

#26: Gatlin    To: buckeroo (#24)

What's Your Biggest Fear of a Trump Presidency?

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#27: buckeroo    To: Gatlin (#26)

What's Your Biggest Fear of a Trump Presidency?

He is full of "hot-aire." You are almost up to his nausiating crap level, too.

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#28: Gatlin    To: buckeroo (#27)

What's Your Biggest Fear of a Trump Presidency?

He is full of "hot-aire."

Because you personally feel that Donald Trump is “full of hot-aire” makes you “more nervous about this nation's future than ever before.”

Really?

You are saying that a person who boasts about actual achievements makes you “more nervous about this nation's future than ever before.”

Seriously?

Okay, then exactly which of his actual achievements that he brags about makes you “more nervous about this nation's future than ever before?”

Gatlin posted on 2016-11-19 04:47:05   Reply   Private Reply

#29: Gatlin    To: buckeroo (#21)

Gatlin: Put your worry aside for just a moment and: List some of the specific rambles that cause you to be “more nervous about this nation's future than ever before.”

Buckeroo: Because you wear, "TRUMPER_ETTE" across your sweater while riding a battery powered scooter with three wheels in an old foggie's home? BTW, you have to lower your skirt lines or yukon will search for you, again.

Your adolescent sophomoric ill-humored comment did nothing to show a list of the specific rambles that cause you to be “more nervous about this nation's future than ever before.”

Why can’t you do that?

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#30: GrandIsland    To: Gatlin (#15)

Deckturd sounds like the mobs of soft tree hugging college students that have been crying that they are afraid and now need safe spaces or they will act like spoiled millennial brats.

No need to be afraid if you are LEGAL RESIDENT, you WORK, you aren't a drug user, criminal, anarchist or a Timmy McViegh wanna-be.... then you should love TRUMP.

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#31: buckeroo    To: GrandIsland (#30)

No need to be afraid if you are LEGAL RESIDENT, you WORK, you aren't a drug user, criminal, anarchist or a Timmy McViegh wanna-be.... then you should love TRUMP.

Are you insane? That is no reason to love Trump.

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#32: Gatlin    To: buckeroo, GrandIsland (#31)

That is no reason to love Trump.

Hey, asshole....there are many reasons to love Trump.

The biggest of which, is we will not be seeing this for the next 4 years:

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#33: buckeroo    To: Gatlin (#32)

The biggest of which, is we will not be seeing this for the next 4 years:

You don't know that. Trump could change his mind and hire Clinton for Secretary of State because she is so experienced.

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#34: A K A Stone    To: Deckard (#11)

You and others of your fascist ilk are why a Trump presidency concerns many of us here.

With rabid zealots like you in the mix, Trump has the potential to be 10 times worse than Obama

Muslims are by definition evil. They should leave the country or be prosecuted by Trump. Just for being a muslim.

A K A Stone posted on 2016-11-19 10:38:03   Reply   Private Reply

#35: Gatlin    To: buckeroo (#29)

I can easily see you are having a great deal of difficulty In explaining why Trump terrifies you. I realize that it isn’t unusual for some people to fear politicians, but it is unusual they cannot explain why….and you can’t.

There are lots of folks who fear Obama because of his policies and some even hate him because of his race, but all were able to explain their reasons, yet you cannot even basically explain why you are literally afraid of Trump on a visceral level as if a monster is already in house and you don’t know where it is hiding.

You have such a high level visceral fear of Trump and yet I feel no fear of Trump….not even one iota. Trump has always looked like the safest candidate in this election cycle, although I don’t share his politics on a few topics. So I have to continually ask myself: Why do I have zero fear of Trump while you are operating in full panic mode?

Should I be more afraid too? I have my reasons to believe my reaction to Trump is more accurate yours and if you would only explain your reaction….then maybe I can understand you. I’m not generally immune to fear – when it is real – so this is a bit of a puzzle to me. Let’s see if we can discuss it a bit.

For a starter, do you fear Trump’s position on social programs? Trump hasn’t made much noise about cutting social programs. So, is this your problem….is your fear coming from that? It would be odd if it were because most people think Trump would be a great choice for the economy and a strong economy keeps the social programs intact. So, is it that you see Trump’s position on social programs to be a problem and the basis for the fear that makes you ”more nervous about this nation's future than ever before?”

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#36: Gatlin    To: buckeroo (#33)

Trump could change his mind and hire Clinton for Secretary of State because she is so experienced.

That is just an absolutely utterly insane statement….here, check to see if this fits:

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#37: Gatlin    To: buckeroo (#29)

Well, if it isn’t social programs, then maybe it‘s healthcare as a life-and- death issue that is causing you this visceral fear. Let’s see now, Bernie wanted universal healthcare and so did Clinton….Trump wants that as well. Although they all would go about it in different ways. Are you doubting Trump’s ability to change minds and get things done in the healthcare arena ? I would hope not, because Trump seems like the best solid bet for healthcare. Is it that you see the future of healthcare under Trump to be a problem and the basis for the fear that makes you ”more nervous about this nation's future than ever before?”

Gatlin posted on 2016-11-19 10:57:03   Reply   Private Reply

#38: Gatlin    To: buckeroo (#37)

Well, Trump’s immigration plans are scary business for sure….for some folks. Maybe you feel his call to deport illegal Mexican immigrants and to temporarily ban Muslim immigration sounds racist on the surface? But when you look one layer below the surface, then you can see that he is consistent about protecting U.S. Citizens from illegals. That’s somewhere in the job description of the POTUS….dontcha think? If you are a citizen, Trump has the strongest approach to immigration plan for keeping YOU safe, although it is bad news for illegals. Is it Trump’s approach to the immigration problem the basis for the fear that makes you ”more nervous about this nation's future than ever before?”

Gatlin posted on 2016-11-19 11:07:16   Reply   Private Reply

#39: Gatlin    To: buckeroo (#38)

Ah, there’s the question for some about his having a finger on the button for the nuclear arsenal. You do realize that Trump has a long history of opposing sketchy wars, while at the same time, like Ronald Reagan, he wants to project maximum force to deter others from starting something. Is it your fear of Trump’s approach to keeping America safe the basis for the fear that makes you ”more nervous about this nation's future than ever before?”

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#40: Gatlin    To: buckeroo (#39)

Also keep in mind that Trump is the non-drinker. If you want to assess the risk of bad presidential decisions under pressure, you have to factor in how many of the other candidates would be on prescription meds or enjoying a stiff drink after work. And what about the general health of a candidate? That probably matters for decision-making under pressure. Trump is the safe bet on this dimension. Is it your fear of Trump’s approach to keeping America safe the basis for the concern that makes you ”more nervous about this nation's future than ever before?”

Gatlin posted on 2016-11-19 11:26:51   Reply   Private Reply

#41: Deckard    To: buckeroo (#24)

As Trump would tell you: the plans are in the ol' smokey backroom.

Exactly his meeting with Obama was to tell Trump he is not to prosecute Clinton - he made a deal.

Kind of like what Bill Hicks said about becoming President.

I have this feeling man, 'cause you know, it's just a handful of people who run everything, you know … that's true, it's provable. It's not … I'm not a fucking conspiracy nut, it's provable.

A handful, a very small elite, run and own these corporations, which include the mainstream media. I have this feeling that whoever is elected president, like Clinton was, no matter what you promise on the campaign trail – blah, blah, blah – when you win, you go into this smoke-filled room with the twelve industrialist capitalist scum-fucks who got you in there.

And you're in this smoky room, and this little film screen comes down … and a big guy with a cigar goes, "Roll the film." And it's a shot of the Kennedy assassination from an angle you've never seen before … that looks suspiciously like it's from the grassy knoll.

And then the screen goes up and the lights come up, and they go to the new president, "Any questions?"

"Er, just what my agenda is."

"First we bomb Baghdad."

"You got it …"

Deckard posted on 2016-11-19 11:53:30   Reply   Private Reply

#42: A K A Stone    To: Deckard (#41)

Exactly his meeting with Obama was to tell Trump he is not to prosecute Clinton - he made a deal.

You're making stuff up and talking out your ass. Druggies aren't honest.

A K A Stone posted on 2016-11-19 12:00:31   Reply   Private Reply

#43: Deckard    To: A K A Stone (#42)

You're making stuff up and talking out your ass.

Come on man, get serious - Trump will NEVER prosecute Clinton, that isn't how politics works in D.C.

Deckard posted on 2016-11-19 12:03:13   Reply   Private Reply

#44: A K A Stone    To: Deckard (#43)

You are a liar. You said Trump made a deal. You don't know shit what is going on. You're lying. You're not honest. Shame on you.

A K A Stone posted on 2016-11-19 12:04:32   Reply   Private Reply

#45: Deckard    To: A K A Stone (#44)

Of course he made a deal.

How old are you anyways, 12?

Deckard posted on 2016-11-19 12:08:02   Reply   Private Reply

#46: Gatlin    To: buckeroo (#40)

Clinton is probably in the pocket of the military industries. She was more likely to start expensive wars for profit, like past presidents. THAT seems dangerous to me. Trump is the least likely to start a war to benefit the defense industry. Trump seems like the lowest risk of any candidate we have ever seen. Is it your fear of Trump starting a wat the basis for the concern that makes you ”more nervous about this nation's future than ever before? ”

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#47: buckeroo    To: Gatlin (#46)

Because of all your posts attempting to sway my opinion, I am becoming more and more afraid.

buckeroo posted on 2016-11-19 12:28:41   Reply   Private Reply

#48: Gatlin    To: buckeroo (#47)

Oh yea, let’s not overlook the elephants in the room….race and gender. I’m the same race and gender as Trump, so I see no risk of him discriminating against people like me. However, I can understand that to some women and few minorities, he probably seems unpredictable, unsympathetic, and powerful. That’s a possible scary combo to some….but definitely an asset to others. Do you have a fear that Trump might seem to be unpredictable, unsympathetic and powerful and that is what makes you ”more nervous about this nation's future than ever before?”

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#49: Gatlin    To: buckeroo (#47)

Maybe you are looking on the empathy dimension. You need to realize that Trump is slowly removing the idea of political correctness from empathy. He is doing away with PC while he will show empathy in his own ways. But you will need to make sure you know when a joke is a joke and sarcasm is sarcasm . You can do that, unless you are a huge pussy….but then, you have strongly demonstrated that you are. You can hate Trump’s sense of humor, his sarcasm and his insensitive ways. But you will also get used to it….you will need to because it will be around for 4 and hopefully 8 years. And when you do that, you’ll no longer see it as a lack of empathy. Because it isn’t and you will not have a fear of Trump’s empathy dimension if that is what makes you ”more nervous about this nation's future than ever before?”

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#50: Gatlin    To: buckeroo (#47)

Maybe your problem is that you see Trump’s ambitions as coming from narcissism and ego. well, relax, every famous person has some of that. It has been said that even a retired Air Force Major can have a tiny bit of that. But I can tell you where emotions go to hide forever inside your body, Trump’s approach is what passes for empathy, it’s because he cares. When you look deep, you will not have a fear of Trump and you will overcome what it is that makes you ”more nervous about this nation's future than ever before?”

Gatlin posted on 2016-11-19 13:29:14   Reply   Private Reply

#51: Gatlin    To: buckeroo (#50)

So, since you would not answer, I trust that I hit all the possible reason you could be “nervous” and fear Trump’s approach to keeping America safe and thoroughly relieved you of the concern that made you ”more nervous about this nation's future than ever before?

God Bless America….and Long Live President-Elect Donald Trump!

Let’s stand and join with Lee Greenwood now in singing God Bless the U.S.A. .

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#52: Fred Mertz    To: Deckard (#45)

How old are you anyways, 12?

More likely 10.

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#53: buckeroo    To: Gatlin (#51)

Let’s stand and join with Lee Greenwood now in singing God Bless the U.S.A. .

Because of Trump?

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