After Trump Loses, What's Next For The GOP?

Source: Impact Tap
Published: Oct 27, 2016
Author: Patrick Glennon
Post Date: 2016-10-27 09:29:40 by Willie Green
Views: 27679

It is very uncontroversial to say that Donald Trump is – well – controversial.

The Republican nominee for president has burned bridges with a number of communities: he mocked a reporter with a disability; he attacked the Muslim Gold Star parents of a fallen solider, alienating veterans and veterans’ families as well as Muslim-Americans; his attacks on women are too many to enumerate here, but a couple of highlights include the “grope” video describing how he sexually assaults women as well as his insinuation that moderator Megyn Kelly was perhaps menstruating during a Republican primary debate last year; he has also continuously suggested that black Americans live in some sort of post-apocalyptic hellscape.

Much to the chagrin of the majority of the United States electorate, none of these incidents seemed to dent Trump’s popularity among his support base, which helped reenforce the narrative of a viable Trump campaign by turning out in droves to his speaking events.

But as we edge closer to the end of this historically bizarre (and exceedingly long) election cycle, it appears a near-certainty that Trump will fall to Clinton on November 8. While Republican senate candidates are faring a little better than their toxic presidential nominee, the fact remains that the “Trump effect” has impacted their poll numbers. The result? Democrats are now the cautious favorite to retake the senate, dividing congress and sapping Republicans of the ability to completely stonewall a Clinton administration.

A quick look at the polling map lends some interesting insight into just how divisive Trump has been. Even if they still fall in Trump’s electoral basket come election day, Arizona, Texas, and Georgia have drifted very close to the toss-up column. This is a huge alarm for Republicans, who – following defeat to Barack Obama – drafted a plan to appeal to demographics pushed away by the Republican party’s rhetoric and policy, including millennials and Latin Americans.

Even before Trump’s scorched earth campaign, Republicans were worrying about demographic changes that indicate that traditionally safe conservative states – such as those mentioned above – could become more competitive as soon as the year 2020. This cycle did the party no favors; the political transition underway in conservative states may accelerate as Trump’s strategy of catering to white nationalist voters has alienated large swaths of the population Republicans were eager to mollify.

Republicans’ task of broadening their appeal will only be further complicated by a post-election Trump, who – analysts are suggesting – could use his formidable base and powerful media allies to target GOP leadership for failing to adequately support the pugnacious nominee. This “Republican civil war” could end in a number of ways. Perhaps it will end with a more 21st century party in-tune with contemporary social norms, women’s rights, and climate change. Or, the party could dissolve entirely.

We’ll have to wait and see.

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#54: misterwhite    To: Roscoe (#52)

"You pathetic cunt sniffing liar."

I object to your description!

It's more accurate to say, "You condescending cunt sniffing liar".

misterwhite posted on 2016-10-29 18:30:53   Reply   Private Reply

#55: Roscoe    To: misterwhite (#54)

I stand corrected.

Roscoe posted on 2016-10-29 18:38:08   Reply   Private Reply

#56: misterwhite    To: ConservingFreedom (#15)

Every single one of dozens of organizations is knowingly diminishing its brand value with bad forecasts? No sale.

The Tribune is still in business, pumping out liberal lies.

misterwhite posted on 2016-10-29 18:44:04   Reply   Private Reply

#57: misterwhite    To: Roscoe (#55)

"I stand corrected."

Yeah ... well.

misterwhite posted on 2016-10-29 18:44:52   Reply   Private Reply

#58: Roscoe    To: misterwhite (#56)

As sniffer would say, "Every single one of dozens of news organizations is knowingly diminishing its brand value with bad reporting? No sale."

Roscoe posted on 2016-10-29 18:46:01   Reply   Private Reply

#59: ConservingFreedom    To: misterwhite (#53)

If they oversampled Democrats by 50%, wouldn't their results still be accurate? Certainly not representative, but still accurate given the sample.

I don't agree with that definition of "accurate" and don't use it.

ConservingFreedom posted on 2016-10-29 19:00:22   Reply   Private Reply

#60: ConservingFreedom    To: misterwhite (#56)

The Tribune is still in business

And from this pollsters have concluded they have a blank check to forecast any damn thing they please? You go ahead and believe that if you want.

ConservingFreedom posted on 2016-10-29 19:03:41   Reply   Private Reply

#61: Roscoe    To: ConservingFreedom (#60)

Facts always trigger you cucks.

Roscoe posted on 2016-10-29 19:04:59   Reply   Private Reply

#62: ConservingFreedom    To: Roscoe (#61)

trigger

Take your horse fantasies elsewhere.

ConservingFreedom posted on 2016-10-29 19:09:41   Reply   Private Reply

#63: misterwhite    To: ConservingFreedom (#60)

"And from this pollsters have concluded they have a blank check to forecast any damn thing they please?"

Pollsters, weather forecasters and union members -- all bulletproof.

misterwhite posted on 2016-10-29 20:44:05   Reply   Private Reply

#65: ConservingFreedom    To: Vinny (#64)

You keep saying that like it means something.

ConservingFreedom posted on 2016-10-29 22:44:31   Reply   Private Reply

#66: ConservingFreedom    To: misterwhite (#63)

weather forecasters

They make no attempt to be accurate? Those weather system predictions they show are from random generators?

ConservingFreedom posted on 2016-10-29 22:48:12   Reply   Private Reply

#67: Roscoe    To: misterwhite (#63)

weather forecasters

You dare question Global Warming/Climate Change?!

Roscoe posted on 2016-10-30 01:30:17   Reply   Private Reply

#68: Vinny    To: ConservingFreedom (#65)

You keep saying that like it means something.

My words do mean something. The Constitution Party that you keep pushing was registered in 44 states in 2012 and received app. 2700 votes in each of those states. More people attend one Friday night HS football game than vote for the CP. Your party isn't simply a non factor, it's an embarrassment.

Vinny posted on 2016-10-30 09:44:17   Reply   Private Reply

#69: misterwhite    To: Roscoe (#67)

"You dare question Global Warming/Climate Change?!"

No, Great and Powerul! Not at all! I ... uh ... was referring to weather. That's it! Weather. Not climate change.

I do believe in climate change. I do believe in climate change. I do! I do! I do!

How about if I come back tomorrow?

misterwhite posted on 2016-10-30 10:40:49   Reply   Private Reply

#70: misterwhite    To: ConservingFreedom (#66)

"They make no attempt to be accurate? Those weather system predictions they show are from random generators?"

My point is, when they are wrong it's never held against them.

misterwhite posted on 2016-10-30 10:45:07   Reply   Private Reply

#71: misterwhite    To: Vinny (#68)

"... app. 2700 votes in each of those states."

Yet, but those voters are "sending a message". And that message is, "I'm too stupid to vote".

misterwhite posted on 2016-10-30 10:47:52   Reply   Private Reply

#72: misterwhite    To: ConservingFreedom (#59)

"I don't agree with that definition of "accurate" and don't use it."

You use the word and when you do others apply that definition. You need to either explain your word or use another. People may begin to think you're being disingenuous.

misterwhite posted on 2016-10-30 10:53:29   Reply   Private Reply

#73: Vinny    To: misterwhite (#71)

Yet, but those voters are "sending a message". And that message is, "I'm too stupid to vote".

They might as well write in Pat Paulsen.

Vinny posted on 2016-10-30 12:18:45   Reply   Private Reply

#74: misterwhite    To: Vinny (#73)

"They might as well write in Pat Paulsen."

My uncle!

misterwhite posted on 2016-10-30 12:42:46   Reply   Private Reply

#75: Pericles    To: Willie Green (#0)

Neocon conservatism is dead., Open borders free trade conservatism is dead. Good riddance.

Pericles posted on 2016-10-30 13:49:04   Reply   Private Reply

#76: Roscoe    To: misterwhite (#72)

Roscoe posted on 2016-10-30 15:09:49   Reply   Private Reply

#77: misterwhite    To: Roscoe (#76)

"Pollsters will scramble in the final week to explain why they are not fraudulent, just inaccurate."

With Comey's announcement they now have the excuse to show the true polling results.

"Trump was down 20 points but, given this newest FBI revelation, he's now up by 6."

misterwhite posted on 2016-10-30 15:24:39   Reply   Private Reply

#78: ConservingFreedom    To: Vinny (#68)

Your party isn't simply a non factor, it's an embarrassment.

Oh, you think I support them with the idea they might win ... how very stupid of you.

ConservingFreedom posted on 2016-10-30 18:14:11   Reply   Private Reply

#79: ConservingFreedom    To: misterwhite (#72)

others apply that definition.

Anyone besides you?

ConservingFreedom posted on 2016-10-30 18:15:52   Reply   Private Reply

#80: ConservingFreedom    To: Roscoe (#76)

You and Adams should have read a few sentences further - any 'bias' was in Trump's favor:

"Mrs. Clinton would have actually led in The Upshot’s survey if it, like most others, didn’t weight by party registration."

ConservingFreedom posted on 2016-10-30 18:23:31   Reply   Private Reply

#81: ConservingFreedom    To: misterwhite (#70)

when they are wrong it's never held against them.

They must fear it might be, else why bother to attempt to be accurate?

ConservingFreedom posted on 2016-10-30 18:24:50   Reply   Private Reply

#82: Roscoe    To: ConservingFreedom (#80)

any 'bias' was in Trump's favor

YOU claimed there was NO bias because bad forecasts would damage their BRAND.

You're too dim to see you're now attacking your own previous position.

Cucks are dumb.

Roscoe posted on 2016-10-30 19:25:20   Reply   Private Reply

#83: misterwhite    To: ConservingFreedom (#81)

"They must fear it might be, else why bother to attempt to be accurate?"

Weather forecasters attempt to be accurate out of fear?

misterwhite posted on 2016-10-30 19:42:47   Reply   Private Reply

#84: Roscoe    To: misterwhite (#83)

Weather forecasters attempt to be accurate out of fear?

They're afraid of ManBearPig.

Roscoe posted on 2016-10-30 19:45:32   Reply   Private Reply

#85: misterwhite    To: ConservingFreedom (#79)

"others apply that definition."
"Anyone besides you?"

Whoever read my post.

Not you, of course. You have your own secret definition.

misterwhite posted on 2016-10-30 19:48:56   Reply   Private Reply

#86: misterwhite    To: Roscoe (#84)

Half man, half bear, half pig.

misterwhite posted on 2016-10-30 19:52:32   Reply   Private Reply

#87: Roscoe    To: misterwhite (#86)

Algore would never make bad forecasts, That would damage his brand.

Roscoe posted on 2016-10-30 20:00:35   Reply   Private Reply

#88: Roscoe    To: misterwhite (#85)

Cucks insist that pollsters would never take money for inaccurate polls.

Roscoe posted on 2016-10-30 20:07:13   Reply   Private Reply

#89: ConservingFreedom    To: Roscoe (#82)

"any 'bias' was in Trump's favor"

YOU claimed there was NO bias because bad forecasts would damage their BRAND.

Reread "any 'bias'" - move your lips if it helps.

ConservingFreedom posted on 2016-10-30 22:26:00   Reply   Private Reply

#90: ConservingFreedom    To: misterwhite (#83)

when they are wrong it's never held against them.

"They must fear it might be, else why bother to attempt to be accurate?"

Weather forecasters attempt to be accurate out of fear?

Fear of market failure ... desire to avoid market failure ... call it what you will.

ConservingFreedom posted on 2016-10-30 22:28:40   Reply   Private Reply

#91: ConservingFreedom    To: misterwhite (#85)

others apply that definition.

"Anyone besides you?"

Whoever read my post.

Can you offer any reason to believe that? Smells like bullshit from here.

ConservingFreedom posted on 2016-10-30 22:29:50   Reply   Private Reply

#92: Vinny    To: ConservingFreedom (#78)

Oh, you think I support them with the idea they might win ... how very stupid of you.

I realize you don't support them thinking that they can win, after all they get 0.09% of the national vote.

Your support is more of a brain malfunction thingie.

Vinny posted on 2016-10-30 22:36:59   Reply   Private Reply

#93: ConservingFreedom    To: Vinny (#92)

I realize you don't support them thinking that they can win

And yet you post to me evidence of what you know I already know. Sounds like a brain malfunction.

ConservingFreedom posted on 2016-10-30 22:51:43   Reply   Private Reply

#94: ConservingFreedom    To: Roscoe (#88)

We don't know what Hart Associates was paid for because the filings don't require that information; since campaigns do internal polling it's not a huge stretch for PACs to also pay for their own polls.

ConservingFreedom posted on 2016-10-30 23:55:32   Reply   Private Reply

#95: Roscoe    To: ConservingFreedom (#94)

Peter D. Hart, a Democrat pollster, knows something that you don't. Money is fungible.

Roscoe posted on 2016-10-31 06:26:07   Reply   Private Reply

#96: misterwhite    To: ConservingFreedom (#90)

"Fear of market failure ... desire to avoid market failure ... call it what you will."

Ah! I see.

So some weather forecasters have been fired because they were wrong? TV stations closed because their weatherman caused "market failure"?

misterwhite posted on 2016-10-31 09:52:19   Reply   Private Reply

#97: misterwhite    To: ConservingFreedom (#91)

"Can you offer any reason to believe that?"

Sure. It's the definition of accuracy. Given the data, they produce an accurate report.

As I said before, it's not at all representative of the electorate but it does allow you (and them) to say it's accurate.

misterwhite posted on 2016-10-31 09:57:45   Reply   Private Reply

#98: Roscoe    To: misterwhite (#96)

So some weather forecasters have been fired because they were wrong?

Weather forecaster Philippe Verdier was fired for publicly questioning Global Warming. IOW, fired for NOT being wrong.

Roscoe posted on 2016-10-31 09:59:26   Reply   Private Reply

#99: Roscoe    To: misterwhite (#97)

GIGO

Roscoe posted on 2016-10-31 10:00:18   Reply   Private Reply

#100: misterwhite    To: Roscoe (#98)

"Weather forecaster Philippe Verdier was fired for publicly questioning Global Warming."

I can't remember. Back in the 70's when there was GLOBAL COOLING, were liberals telling us to produce more atmospheric carbon to "save the planet"?

misterwhite posted on 2016-10-31 10:30:18   Reply   Private Reply

#101: ConservingFreedom    To: misterwhite (#96)

So some weather forecasters have been fired because they were wrong?

I've seen weather forecasters replaced; the reasons have never been disclosed to me. If you're position is that weather forecasters and pollsters feel they have blank checks to predict any damn thing they please, you're welcome to it.

ConservingFreedom posted on 2016-10-31 14:59:15   Reply   Private Reply

#102: ConservingFreedom    To: Roscoe (#95)

"We don't know what Hart Associates was paid for because the filings don't require that information; since campaigns do internal polling it's not a huge stretch for PACs to also pay for their own polls."

Peter D. Hart, a Democrat pollster, knows something that you don't. Money is fungible.

Which proves what ... that John Wayne Gacy's employer may be held to have paid him to commit his crimes?

ConservingFreedom posted on 2016-10-31 15:01:13   Reply   Private Reply

#103: ConservingFreedom    To: misterwhite (#97)

"Misrepresenting accurate results wouldn't affect their reps as providers of accurate results."

If they oversampled Democrats by 50%, wouldn't their results still be accurate? Certainly not representative, but still accurate given the sample. [...] It's the definition of accuracy. Given the data, they produce an accurate report.

Not according to the first two definitions from http://www.merriam- webster.com/dictionary/accurate:

: free from mistakes or errors : able to produce results that are correct : not making mistakes

As I said before, it's not at all representative of the electorate but it does allow you (and them) to say it's accurate.

Where have I claimed that any particular results are accurate? (Free clue: not in the quoted text above where I addressed the irrelevance of "misrepresentation" to the question at hand.)

ConservingFreedom posted on 2016-10-31 15:09:03   Reply   Private Reply