A megachurch pastor who sits on Donald Trump’s evangelical council denounced the Republican presidential candidate as “lecherous and worthless” over a leaked 2005 video in which Trump boasted about grabbing women.
“Mr. Trump’s comments released yesterday—though 10 years ago (he was 60)—are not just sophomoric or locker room banter,” James MacDonald of Harvest Bible Chapel, an Illinois-based evangelical church, wrote in an email Saturday to his fellow members of Trump’s faith council and some opponents of the GOP candidate. “They are truly the kind of misogynistic trash that reveals a man to be lecherous and worthless—not the guy who gets politely ignored, but the guy who gets a punch in the head from worthy men who hear him talk that way about women.”
The email was first flagged by The Washington Post and published on a blog by Ed Stetzer, a professor of evangelism at Wheaton College.
Despite this caustic language, MacDonald did not abandon support for Trump outright. Instead, he said he’s putting the campaign “on notice” pending the release of another damning tape and will no longer speak out on Trump’s behalf without a “change of heart and direction.”
“If Mr. Trump isn’t seeking our counsel now—1) to be repentant 2) on how to portray that repentance, then the idea of a faith council (which has deteriorated into influence brokering anyway) is really kind of a joke right?” MacDonald wrote.
Trump has done little to seek repentance for the tape published Friday by the Washington Post, in which he describes being able to get away with doing “anything” to women without their consent because of his celebrity status. He and his surrogates have dismissed the conversation as “locker room talk” and pivoted to describing Bill Clinton’s sexual indiscretions.
The tape has fractured the congressional GOP and Trump’s evangelical supporters. Prominent evangelicals including Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell Jr. are standing by him, but the Post reported that the editorial board of Christianity Today and theologian Wayne Grudem have condemned Trump’s comments.
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#1: Justified To: Willie Green (#0)
Trump bad Clinton is the worst possible person ever.
Demoncrats should have nominated crazy Bernie!
Justified posted on 2016-10-11 09:21:52 Reply Private Reply
#2: Stoner To: Justified (#1)
Yes. The Clinton / demonturds / MSM trying to make a huge deal out of this, is like pot calling the kettle black.
OK, yes what Trump said was wrong, disrespectful, etc, etc. So what. Everyone trying to make a big deal out of this, are going to ignore the more serious issues:
unrestrained illegal immigration, destruction of US economy, trade deals that ship our industry/ jobs overseas, national debt, Hillary commiting treason, Hillary allowing those Americans to die at Benghazi, Hillary wanting to flood the nation with more radical Muslims, etc, etc. Come on people. Anyone that is real tore up about this, has got their head up their azz.
The people that are tore up about this, over Trumps words, yet are A OK with the crimes that the Clintons have done, are either assholes, or dumb as a box of rocks. They want to make a big deal out of Trumps morals, yet ignore Hillarys lack of morals.
Trump is not running for Pope of the US.
Our nation is going down the drain. We need someone tuff to steer us out of it. Would you fire Gen George S. Patton because he was foul mouthed?
Stoner posted on 2016-10-11 10:00:22 Reply Private Reply
#3: misterwhite To: Willie Green (#0)
They are WORDS, pastor, spoken privately 11 years ago and made public right before a Presidential election as a political hitjob.
Get a f**king grip.
"Trump has done little to seek repentance for the tape published Friday by the Washington Post"
He apologized to his family and to the American people -- and not one of those fake apologies of "I'm sorry if you were offended".
What more would to have him do?
misterwhite posted on 2016-10-11 10:17:23 Reply Private Reply
#4: Vicomte13 To: Willie Green (#0)
Yes they are.
Much worse, they were spoken in humorous candor, off the record, and some enemy secretly taped them. Maybe we need to get secret microphones around the pastor at all times, and have a tap into all of his e-mails, tweets, and letters from 20-30 years ago.
Vicomte13 posted on 2016-10-11 10:57:29 Reply Private Reply
#5: GrandIsland To: Willie Green (#0)
But, by all means, keep preaching to your LF libtard choir. lol
GrandIsland posted on 2016-10-11 13:25:04 Reply Private Reply
#6: ConservingFreedom To: misterwhite (#3)
According to this article, his exact words were, “I apologize if anyone was offended”: libertysflame.com/cgi-bin...8107&Disp=23&Trace=on#C23
ConservingFreedom posted on 2016-10-11 15:33:38 Reply Private Reply
#7: ConservingFreedom To: Willie Green (#0)
If someone had given The Donald the fat lip he deserved about 50 years ago, he might not be the narcissistic swine he is today.
ConservingFreedom posted on 2016-10-11 15:39:20 Reply Private Reply
#8: misterwhite To: ConservingFreedom (#6)
misterwhite posted on 2016-10-11 16:59:57 Reply Private Reply
#9: misterwhite To: ConservingFreedom (#7)
What did he do 50 years ago to deserve a fat lip?
And if he's been talking that way for 50 years, why is everyone surprised about this latest revelation? You knew who you were nominating.
misterwhite posted on 2016-10-11 17:04:54 Reply Private Reply
#10: ConservingFreedom To: misterwhite (#9)
You think he started in his late 50s?
I didn't nominate him. The folks who did seem to mostly be rationalizing or excusing rather than condemning what he said.
ConservingFreedom posted on 2016-10-11 17:24:20 Reply Private Reply
#11: ConservingFreedom To: misterwhite (#8)
ConservingFreedom posted on 2016-10-11 17:36:15 Reply Private Reply
#12: misterwhite To: ConservingFreedom (#10)
Does anyone? If not, then you've made my point -- We all knew who we were getting.
misterwhite posted on 2016-10-11 18:44:07 Reply Private Reply
#13: misterwhite To: ConservingFreedom (#11)
Is that how he left it? You act like he did. You're wrong. Again.
misterwhite posted on 2016-10-11 18:45:40 Reply Private Reply
#14: rlk To: Vicomte13 (#4)
Trump has always been a bit immature. But he stands a head taller than anyone else running for the presidency, or anyone else who has been president, since Reagan. They are totally immature at the level of eight year olds.
rlk posted on 2016-10-11 19:31:33 Reply Private Reply
#15: Vicomte13 To: rlk (#14)
Vicomte13 posted on 2016-10-11 20:00:34 Reply Private Reply
#16: ConservingFreedom To: misterwhite (#13)
You're wrong. Again.
ConservingFreedom posted on 2016-10-11 21:29:16 Reply Private Reply
#17: ConservingFreedom To: misterwhite (#12)
There's boorish, and then there's "grab 'em by the pussy."
ConservingFreedom posted on 2016-10-11 21:32:55 Reply Private Reply
#18: misterwhite To: ConservingFreedom (#17)
And there's public behavior and private behavior. There are words and there are deeds.
This "misogynist" employs more female executives then men -- and pays them more. Yeah. He hates women, all right.
misterwhite posted on 2016-10-12 10:08:58 Reply Private Reply
#19: misterwhite To: ConservingFreedom (#16)
I'm right, again. You only cited his initial statement as your "proof". He later made a full, on-line apology -- which you ignored.
You're disingenuous, duplicitous, and dishonest. And that's just the "d's".
misterwhite posted on 2016-10-12 10:14:39 Reply Private Reply
#20: misterwhite To: rlk (#14)
And coarse. And not politically correct. And flamboyant. And indelicate. And a leader.
misterwhite posted on 2016-10-12 10:18:37 Reply Private Reply
#21: ConservingFreedom To: misterwhite (#18)
Did I say he was a misogynist or a woman-hater - or are you flailing at straw men as usual?
ConservingFreedom posted on 2016-10-12 11:25:41 Reply Private Reply
#22: ConservingFreedom To: misterwhite (#19)
No, you're just propping up the latest of your innumerable straw men. What actually happened is that YOU ignored his initial statement in claiming he didn't make 'one of those fake apologies of "I'm sorry if you were offended"', and I completed the picture.
Poor you.
ConservingFreedom posted on 2016-10-12 11:29:47 Reply Private Reply
#23: misterwhite To: ConservingFreedom (#22)
He didn't leave it at that.
misterwhite posted on 2016-10-12 12:13:25 Reply Private Reply
#24: misterwhite To: ConservingFreedom (#21)
Did you?
misterwhite posted on 2016-10-12 12:14:29 Reply Private Reply
#25: ConservingFreedom To: misterwhite (#24)
English not your first language? No, I did not.
ConservingFreedom posted on 2016-10-12 14:47:26 Reply Private Reply
#26: ConservingFreedom To: misterwhite (#23)
Which puts him one up on Slick Willy.
ConservingFreedom posted on 2016-10-12 14:48:21 Reply Private Reply
#27: misterwhite To: ConservingFreedom (#25)
misterwhite posted on 2016-10-12 17:12:05 Reply Private Reply
#28: ConservingFreedom To: misterwhite (#27)
“Grab 'em by the pussy. You can do anything.”
ConservingFreedom posted on 2016-10-12 17:22:33 Reply Private Reply
#29: misterwhite To: ConservingFreedom (#28)
Ooh. Donald Trump was vulgar 16 years ago. He said “Grab 'em by the pussy. You can do anything.” And you're offended.
Hell, I'm offended you're defending women who allow strange men to grab 'em by their pussy.
misterwhite posted on 2016-10-13 10:51:41 Reply Private Reply