*Note: Since this post was published, some material information has hit in the form of a massive, meaningful data-dump from Wikileaks. I have read through some of it, and it is unquestionably damaging to Hillary Clinton.
When I originally wrote the post below, I was working under the assumption that this would be the big political news story over the weekend, and all anyone would be talking about for at least the next two days and into the debate. With the Wikileaks dump we have another huge story, and it will undoubtably lessen the negative impact from the Trump audio. Trump got very lucky. Ill have more over the weekend once Ive had some time to read through more of the Wikileaks information and gather my thoughts.
Below is the original Trump post, published before I became aware of the Wikileaks release.
The just released audio of Trumps comments from 2005 is devastating for his Presidential chances. This is not to say I think the elections over, but I see this as the most damaging thing to emerge against him since he started his primary run last year.
It cant be brushed off as political rhetoric to win the Republican primary, and some of the things he said will be deeply disturbing to many Americans.
While everyone thought the October surprise would be damaging to Clinton, the exact opposite seems to have happened. Unless someone has something equally devastating on the Clintons and is prepared to release it (not out of the question), Trump is in trouble.
Sundays debate now becomes do or die for him.
Trumps response was pretty good, but unless he has audio of Bill on the golf course, probably not good enough.
This was locker room banter, a private conversation that took place many years ago. Bill Clinton has said far worse to me on the golf course not even close, Trump says in a statement. I apologize if anyone was offended
In Liberty,
Michael Krieger
#1: Hondo68 To: Deckard (#0)
Banned in WI?
Jeb Bush
✔ @JebBush
As the grandfather of two precious girls, I find that no apology can excuse away Donald Trump's reprehensible comments degrading women. 4:05 PM - 7 Oct 2016
Hondo68 posted on 2016-10-08 00:31:29 Reply Private Reply
#2: Fred Mertz To: hondo68 (#1)
Stay out of 'dem bushes.
Fred Mertz posted on 2016-10-08 00:44:21 Reply Private Reply
#3: buckeroo To: hondo68 (#1)
Say what? At the very least, he gets a "pass" because he didn't use your momma, wife, sista and your aunt?
buckeroo posted on 2016-10-08 00:46:22 Reply Private Reply
#4: Deckard To: hondo68 (#1)
Not defending Trump, but Jeb is an unbelievable hypocrite here.
Tranceformation of America Cathy OBrien: Bush was using his bird dog to track me
Fr: Tranceformation of America Cathy OBrien A Most Dangerous Game
Hyper from drugs, Cheney and Bush were eager to hunt their human prey in A Most Dangerous Game. They greeted me with the rules of the game, ordered me to strip naked despite the cold December winds, and told me in Oz cryptic to beware of the lions and tigers and bears. Kellys life became the stakes, as usual, which resurrected my natural and exaggerated programmed maternal instincts. Tears silently ran down my cheeks as (GHW) Bush told me, If we catch you, Kellys mine. So run, run as fast as you can. Ill get you and your little girl, too, because I can, I can, I can. And I will.
Deckard posted on 2016-10-08 01:05:28 Reply Private Reply
#5: Pinguinite To: Deckard (#0)
Hillary were to make an issue out of this video at her own very great peril. The hypocrisy of it would be in itself quite damaging, given Bill's track record.
Even Trump's response is one that acknowledges responsibility, which is far more than Bill has ever done for his sexual assaults.
Pinguinite posted on 2016-10-08 01:17:32 Reply Private Reply
#6: Deckard To: Pinguinite (#5)
Maybe so, but you know Hillary is going to use it and her fawning sycophants won't care that Bill has done much worse.
In fact I would guess that most of them don't believe any of the accusations against him.
The Clintons can do no wrong.
I'm wondering if Trump might have a case for illegal wiretapping here.
Deckard posted on 2016-10-08 01:23:44 Reply Private Reply
#7: Pinguinite To: Deckard (#6)
I was a little confused at first as we can hear Trump talking but all we see is a bus pulling up. Apparently someone went through the trouble of syncing the audio and video, which tells me it was someone who hates Trump.
But wiretapping is, or used to only apply to phone conversations. That is, tapping the "wire" in which conversation is being electronically transferred. But I think some have tried to make this apply to ordinary conversation.
Pinguinite posted on 2016-10-08 02:18:15 Reply Private Reply
#8: Deckard To: Pinguinite (#7)
I think the first audio you hear is from inside the bus. You can hear what is being said but the video is taken from outside, and you see people leaving the bus but the audio continues from inside.
You can see the lapel mic on Trump's jacket when he exits, which means that the audio from inside was transmitted to the video camera outside.
Apparently someone went through the trouble of syncing the audio and video, which tells me it was someone who hates Trump.
The ambient noise changes when Trump steps outside, and that's when the audio syncs with the video.
Since this occurred in 2005, I doubt it was anyone who had a particular hatred of Trump, at the time he wasn't even on the political radar.
But wiretapping is, or used to only apply to phone conversations. That is, tapping the "wire" in which conversation is being electronically transferred. But I think some have tried to make this apply to ordinary conversation.
I think you're right - but I believe that even back then both parties had to consent to being recorded. In this case, I'm fairly certain Trump knew he was being recorded since he was wearing a mic.
Deckard posted on 2016-10-08 03:17:07 Reply Private Reply
#9: nolu chan To: Deckard (#4)
The whole book is available online without copyright, so I can provide some lengthier excerpts from this incredible book from which I have frequently used when referencing G.H.W. Bush. It inspires one to greater understanding.
https://archive.org/stream/TranceformationOfAmerica/tranceformation_america_djvu.txt
https://ia600306.us.archive.org/21/items/TranceformationOfAmerica/tranceformation_america.pdf
[196-197]
nolu chan posted on 2016-10-08 03:23:17 Reply Private Reply
#10: nolu chan To: Deckard (#4)
Trance Formation of America
[p. 166-168]
nolu chan posted on 2016-10-08 03:26:13 Reply Private Reply
#11: nolu chan To: Deckard (#4)
Trance Formation of America
[pp. 206-207]
[p. 211]
nolu chan posted on 2016-10-08 03:27:05 Reply Private Reply
#12: nolu chan To: Deckard (#4)
https://www.pdf-archive.com/2011/10/11/david-icke-the-biggest-secret/david-icke-the-biggest-secret.pdf
David Icke, The Biggest Secret
[pp. 28-29]
nolu chan posted on 2016-10-08 03:27:54 Reply Private Reply
#13: Pinguinite To: Deckard (#8)
Didn't occur to me it may have been transmitted, but that would eliminate any need for syncing. But if it was transmitted to the party waiting for him, then it sounds like it may have been somewhat of a setup, as he surely wouldn't have spoken about the woman that way if he knew she might have been listening.
Certainly on 2005 he wasn't in the political running but he was essentially a celebrity. And someone kept this recording stashed away for 11 years, and only now, exactly 1 month from election day, turns it over to the media.
Wiretapping is a state law, not federal, and whether consent is required from both parties or just one varies from state to state. That's my understanding, at least.
Pinguinite posted on 2016-10-08 03:44:06 Reply Private Reply
#14: Hondo68 To: Fred Mertz, buckeroo (#2)
Genuine fake sincerity....
Hondo68 posted on 2016-10-08 06:27:41 Reply Private Reply
#15: Justified To: Deckard (#0)
I find it crazy that the msm still ignores everything illegal she has done just like Obama.
This vote come november will truly be about being feed up with the same old people in charge. Im not sure if enough people have suffered enough to want to break the backs of the elites.
If not for WikiLeaks Clinton's and the elite's machine would be a head by 50%. This just goes to show you how bad Clinton's are.
Justified posted on 2016-10-08 09:29:04 Reply Private Reply
#16: misterwhite To: Deckard (#0)
The audio is released just 4 weeks before the Presidential election as an obvious political ploy.
The press is covering it like the next Watergate while ignoring all of Hillary's scandals.
Trump apologized for the private-made-public remark.
misterwhite posted on 2016-10-08 09:55:09 Reply Private Reply
#17: Fred Mertz To: hondo68 (#14)
Fred Mertz posted on 2016-10-08 10:32:34 Reply Private Reply
#18: Fred Mertz To: hondo68 (#14)
That should get him off the hook, right?
Fred Mertz posted on 2016-10-08 10:58:50 Reply Private Reply
#19: BobCeleste To: Deckard (#0)
For those who turn from Mr. Trump, here is your choice, in her own words.
The real hillary clinton:
1) "Where is the God damn flag? I want the God damn fucking flag up every morning at fucking sunrise". Hillary to staff at the Arkansas Governor's mansion on Labor Day 1991. From the book "Inside the White House" by Ronald Kessler, p. 244 (2) "Fuck off! It's enough I have to see you shit-kickers every day! I'm not going to talk to you, too! Just do your Goddamn job and keep your mouth shut." Hillary to her State Trooper bodyguards after one of them greeted her with "Good Morning." From the book "America Evita" by Christopher Anderson, p.90 (3) "If you want to remain on this detail, get your fucking ass over here and grab those bags!" Hillary to a Secret Service Agent who was reluctant to carry her luggage because he wanted to keep his hands free in case of an incident. From the book "The First Partner" p. 25 (4) "Stay the fuck back, stay the fuck back away from me! Don't come within ten yards of me, or else! Just fucking do as I say, Okay!!?" Hillary screaming at her Secret Service detail. From the book "Unlimited Access" by Clinton 's FBI Agent-in-Charge, Gary Aldridge, p.139 (5) "Where's the miserable cock sucker?" (otherwise known as "Bill Clinton") Hillary shouting at a Secret Service officer. From the book "The Truth about Hillary" by Edward Klein, p. 5 (6) "You fucking idiot" Hillary to a State Trooper who was driving her to an event. From the book "Crossfire" ~pg. 84 (7) "Put this on the ground! I left my sunglasses in the limo. I need those fucking sunglasses! We need to go back!â Hillary to Marine One helicopter pilot to turn back while in route to Air Force One. From the book " Dereliction of Duty" p. 71-72 (8) "Come on Bill, put your dick up! You can't fuck her here!!" Hillary to Gov. Bill Clinton when she spots him talking with an attractive female. From the book "Inside the White House" by Ronald Kessler, p. 243 There it is ........book, chapter and page.......the real Hillary Rotten Clinton! Additionally, when she walked around the White House, NO ONE was permitted to look her in the eye, they all had to lower their heads with their eyes towards the ground whenever she walked by. Clearly she is a class act! This ill-tempered, violent, loud-mouth, hateful and abusive woman wants to be your next President, and have total control as Commander-in-Chief of our Military, the very Military for which she has shown incredible disdain throughout her public life . Remember her most vile comment about Benghazi: "What difference at this point does it make?" Now it will be clear why the crew of "Marine One" helicopter nick-named the craft, "Broomstick ONE " 39 401 Best Write a comment
superguyguy 72d, 22h As first lady of Arkansas she called a Bill detractor "A dirty fucking jew". Source would be A book by Barbra Olsen called "Hell to pay". 59
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Acquiring_Target 72d, 21h I knew someone who was a makeup artist for ABC, and they'd get called into the WH fairly often. There were several times when an aid or SS would rush into the room and say Hillary's coming, and everyone would scatter. 36
TahMephs 72d, 21h Seems to be the consistent story from people who know / knew her and didn't put up with her bullshit... What a vile, miserable human being 25
[deleted] 72d, 8h Maybe she wants power so she can tell people what to do because otherwise they run away from her.
bernmont2016 #JillNotHill 72d, 21h (3) "If you want to remain on this detail, get your fucking ass over here and grab those bags!" Hillary to a Secret Service Agent who was reluctant to carry her luggage because he wanted to keep his hands free in case of an incident. From the book "The First Partner" p. 25 Secret Service job requirements include: " All candidates must complete a number of test/assessments to become Secret Service agents: A physical fitness evaluation Vision and hearing tests The Treasury Enforcement Agent exam A report writing test A series of in-depth interviews A top-secret clearance " Physical fitness specifics: " The fitness evaluation measures strength, endurance, and aerobic capacity in four core elements. The core elements are Push-ups, Sit-ups, Chin-ups, and the 1.5 mile run. The fitness evaluation will be administered at the beginning, during, and end of training. Secret Service weapon carrying employees are additionally required to participate in the USSS Physical Fitness Evaluation quarterly. " And she expects them to be butlers/servants, how demeaning. 29
Killerklinton 72d, 19h I posted this in the other discussion, not sure why it was reposted verbatim but since this one is getting more traction, here is a copypasta of my other post - Can confirm, local Philadelphia resident, until recently I worked security in the area. Have worked for the dirty Klintonians several times. Have seen her curse out employees for doing their job, or just being in her way. I also saw one of her famous tantrums. As you know when a high profile person such as herself travels many precautions are taken, including closing roads and traveling with a police escort/rolling blockade. For several hours we couldn't let people into their own neighborhoods, saying you can go home at 5pm. But she wanted to stay late to have more drinks and tendies with donors. Explaining how we couldn't change the schedule, she freaked out at her own people, local PD and us, additional local hired security. Just trying to do our jobs. Plus it was shift change time for the PD guys, so they had to stay late, we had to piss off local residents by being like kek sorry I know we said 5 but just sit in your car till 8 instead. That went over well. Plus I personally have heard her make homophobic and racist comments, including anti-Semitism, which I don't care for since my wife is Jewish. Due to NDAs I signed I cannot say specifics, but the above comments sound about right. 21
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Jim_Nills_Mustache 72d, 22h If I was the agent in #3 I would have absolutely not picked them up, who the fuck would want to be on Hillary's detail. 16
10gauge 72d, 21h She is a horrible, corrupt, vile, sham of a human being. 15
lolzana 72d, 15h I just going to pull out my own woman card here and say how this reminds me how I REALLY don't want want this person put down in the history books as the first woman president. I'm not sure why other people can't wait, not exactly gonna make a lot of people proud for various reasons. 11
[deleted] 72d, 17h But but but, it's all right wing lies! Bullshit. If there is that much smoke, there is definitely fire.
wildbill1240 72d, 14h My friend flies Air Force one sometimes and Hillary and Chelsea were walking on board when Hillary started chastising Chelsea for her lack of ambition. Hillary pointed to the black flight attendant and said, "if you keep it up you're going to end up like her." The flight attendant told the pilot (my friend) and refused to look at or go near Hillary for the rest of the flight. 6
Wordshark 72d, 7h That's fucking low. 1
Cross_of_Coronado 72d, 20h Clinton! Clinton! Yes Donald? Telling Bullshit? No Donald! Telling Lies? No Donald! Open your mouth! Lie Lie Lie 12
zangent 72d, 20h /r/johnnyjohnnyyespapa 1
BRUTAL_ANAL_RAPE8888 72d, 17h She also called small disabled children fucking retards 3
desigio 71d, 23h Im not an American but if there was an official source citing this, that statement alone would be enough for me not to vote for her. Forget all the other bullshit going on, just that one statement alone would do it for me. What a vile human being. 1
BRUTAL_ANAL_RAPE8888 71d, 22h I totally agree "She writes of one occasion, when developmentally challenged children were having difficulty picking up the eggs at a traditional Easter egg hunt on the grounds of the governor's mansion during Bill's tenure in the Arkansas state house. Reluctant hostess Hillary had enough. 'The frustrated Me-First Lady demanded, "When are they going to get those f*****g ree-tards out of here?"' Dolly writes." http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3635882/Hillary-Clinton-called-disabled-children-Easter-egg-hunt-f-ing-ree-tards-referred-Jews-stupid-k-s-Bill-called-Jesse-Jackson-damned-n-r-claims-Bill-s-former-lover.html 1
32Ash I did not have textual relationships with that server 72d, 18h A little background on the first quote because it's hilariously ironic. It supposedly originated from David Brock as part of a smear campaign against Hillary. He was so effective against her with his propaganda techniques that she later hired him to do her dirty work (he runs Correct The Record, Media Matters for America, and other Clinton-propaganda machines). I expect the quote is false, but it's ironic because it comes from the same person who now runs CTR. 5
HillaryForPrison__ CLINTON FOR THE CLINKER 72d, 17h what makes you think that the quote is false? 2
32Ash I did not have textual relationships with that server 72d, 17h Because most of the stuff that comes out of David Brock is false. I'm by no means defending hillary. Afterall she hired this same guy that puts out lie after lie. 6
[deleted] 72d, 8h Keep your enemies close!
Wordshark 72d, 7h Oh they're not enemies anymore. He's her top attack dog. 1
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clone822 72d, 21h So shes like, the Gordon Ramsay of politicians? 6
HillaryForPrison__ CLINTON FOR THE CLINKER 72d, 21h The difference being that Gordon acts like an asshole in front of the camera, and is genuinely a good person behind cameras, while Hillary Clinton is an asshole both in front of and behind the cameras 26
slyfingers 72d, 17h I have a friend who worked for Gordon Ramsay in the early 2000s and let me assure you he was even worse when the cameras were gone. I hear he has improved drastically since then, but some of the stories I have heard make his on-screen stuff look like a Bible Study. 4
cakesphere 72d, 16h Gordon is at least good at his job. 11
HillaryForPrison__ CLINTON FOR THE CLINKER 72d, 17h At least he is trying to improve! Meanwhile Hillary Clinton is the same old hag she has been since she was born 6
dragonjock27 72d, 16h This country is fucking RAW!!!! 6
hiighCalibre 72d, 8h You can't serve this country to the electorate! Gah. Just look at this, have a good look at this. Fuck! You're going to bloody kill somebody with this! 1
lepandas Sanders Supporter 72d, 10h Come on Bill, put your dick up! You can't fuck her here!!" Hillary to Gov. Bill Clinton lmao 2
honorman81 72d, 19h Classy gal 1
toomanytrippers 71d, 8h Make no mistake about it, Hitlery will not be President and in 2017 she and many others will face prosecution for their crimes . The presstitute media a nothing more than a group of cowardice shill/paid liars competing between themselves in a BS competition. America has now become infested with retards and mentally ill individuals with the mentality of a corn flake who have done nothing more than paint a giant target on their back marking themselves as traitors and cowards of the USA. Alot of parasites in washington, congress and the presstitute media will find themselves behind bars in due time, they know it and they dread it yet they cannot escape it. There are plenty in here with no idea what they are saying and have absolutely no facts, They know who they are, with just their opinions, no different to the opinion of a mental asylum patient and they stand out like a sore thumb. Imbeciles consumed with misery trying try to make others feel as bad as they do and it isnt working, at the end of the day they are still imbeciles.You cannot educate these idiots, they dont fit in they never will and the best thing about it is everytime they open their mouth they once again prove it beyond any doubt. No one cares about these fools, we never will. 1
Ladd_Pearson 72d, 11h I have to admit, #1 made me like her more. 0
-Fender- 72d, 10h Some poster above said that the guy who reported this quote is a known liar that ran a smear campaign against her, so it's likely that that one is false. 2
Wordshark 72d, 7h David Brock. Note that he's changed camps, and now runs Correct The Record (among other efforts). 1
Source: https://m.reddit.com/r/HillaryForPrison/comments/4uumw0/the_real_hillary_clinton_these_are_all_her_actual/
BobCeleste posted on 2016-10-08 10:58:57 Reply Private Reply
#20: Roscoe To: hondo68 (#1)
Roscoe posted on 2016-10-08 12:23:33 Reply Private Reply
#21: nolu chan To: misterwhite (#16)
Do you find the media coverage at all curious that the other guy is just another guy? His name is Billy Bush. That would be the son of G.H.W. Bush's brother Johnathan, and the cousin of G.W. Bush.
The official story is that a producer remembered the conversation and just recently dug up the tape. It broke in the Washington Post.
nolu chan posted on 2016-10-08 14:17:49 Reply Private Reply
#22: misterwhite To: nolu chan (#21)
After 11 years, he remembers just 4 weeks before the election. Wouldn't you think his memory would have been jogged back in the August debate when Megyn Kelly challenged Trump on some of the rhetoric hes used towards women?
misterwhite posted on 2016-10-08 14:50:02 Reply Private Reply
#23: ConservingFreedom To: Deckard (#0)
He learned how to 'apologize' from Bill Clinton.
ConservingFreedom posted on 2016-10-08 15:01:23 Reply Private Reply
#24: ConservingFreedom To: misterwhite (#16)
Character is what you do when nobody's watching.
ConservingFreedom posted on 2016-10-08 15:03:10 Reply Private Reply
#25: Roscoe To: ConservingFreedom (#24)
You cucks have a funny idea of what character is.
Roscoe posted on 2016-10-08 15:10:04 Reply Private Reply
#26: Hondo68 To: Fred Mertz, Amnesty Don, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#18)
He's an undocumented Carter Democrat, who drank a few too many Billy Beer's...
Hondo68 posted on 2016-10-08 15:29:49 Reply Private Reply
#27: nolu chan To: misterwhite (#22)
I have an unsupported suspicion that the Bush family leaked this strategically. Had the station producer been the source, I doubt it would have first appeared in WAPO. I would like to see more of the video to see if Billy Bush instigated the discussion on a hot mic. My curiosity is piqued at how many MSM sources did not mention that the other guy was Papi's nephew and W's first cousin.
nolu chan posted on 2016-10-08 16:05:04 Reply Private Reply
#28: Fred Mertz To: nolu chan (#27)
Fred Mertz posted on 2016-10-08 16:19:41 Reply Private Reply
#29: nolu chan To: Roscoe (#25)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2424555/Bill-Clintons-mistress-Gennifer-Flowers-Wed-today-wasnt-Chelsea.html
nolu chan posted on 2016-10-08 16:31:15 Reply Private Reply
#30: nolu chan To: Fred Mertz (#28)
Explain your belief that a TV producer just remembered and fished out the video 30 days before the election, broke the story in a newspaper, and much of MSM forgot to mention that the other guy in the video who fixed The Donald up with the hot mic was GHW's nephew and W's first cousin?
nolu chan posted on 2016-10-08 16:35:56 Reply Private Reply
#31: Fred Mertz To: nolu chan (#30)
While I think it's possible that it has been held 11 years for reason, I find that highly unlikely...but, it is October...
Fred Mertz posted on 2016-10-08 16:42:07 Reply Private Reply
#32: goldilucky To: BobCeleste (#19)
goldilucky posted on 2016-10-08 18:56:21 Reply Private Reply
#33: misterwhite To: nolu chan (#27)
misterwhite posted on 2016-10-08 19:17:10 Reply Private Reply
#34: nolu chan To: misterwhite (#33)
The story broke first on WAPO. The claim is that someone at NBC leaked the video to David Farenthold at WAPO.
http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/10/billy-bush-donald-trump-access-hollywood
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3828354/Billy-Bush-seen-time-lewd-2005-hot-mic-recording-Trump-leaked-entitled-jock-faces-calls-sacked-NBC-s-Today-show.html
http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/07/media/access-hollywood-donald-trump-tape/index.html
http://www.wsj.com/articles/nbc-wont-reprimand-billy-bush-for-conduct-in-trump-access-hollywood-tape-1475945643
nolu chan posted on 2016-10-08 19:49:38 Reply Private Reply
#35: Hondo68 To: nolu chan, *Constitution Party*, ignorant Republican globalist neocons (#34)
Darrell Castle and Scott Bradley know that we live in a Republic!
Hondo68 posted on 2016-10-08 21:07:59 Reply Private Reply
#36: Justified To: hondo68 (#35)
Yes it sucks Clinton or Trump. Clinton just can not be president! Its pure suicide and everyone knows this because no one is really supporting her. If people really supported her she would be winning by 30% and she is just neck and neck with an asshat! The only way she can win is suckers from the right do the same damn thing and vote third party again and give it to the Clinton's again. Not even the stupid bernie voters will vote third party because they will suck up their pride and vote demoncrap no matter what!
Either we collapse into socialism and die as a country or fall back into capitalist republic light with a chance to save America! Don't be stupid!!
Justified posted on 2016-10-08 21:21:41 Reply Private Reply
#37: Hondo68 To: Justified, only sees defeat, wont even try for a win (#36)
You're stuck on loser. You don't have to choose between D & R turds.
It's your vote, so go ahead and waste it on a Republican or Democrat a$$hole.
Hondo68 posted on 2016-10-08 22:10:54 Reply Private Reply
#38: Fred Mertz To: hondo68 (#37)
Or Gary Johnson, the yukon closeted homo?
Fred Mertz posted on 2016-10-08 22:24:40 Reply Private Reply
#39: Justified To: hondo68 (#37)
There can be only one winner and I wish it weren't so but it will be Trump or Clinton. Trump may or may not be a good president but I do know 100% that Clinton will be the end of America with no coming back.
I know that leftist, socialist, communist and other freaks of nature will vote for whomever demoncraps put up. Not even crazy bernie supporters are willing to vote third party. So only crazy people who like self-destruction will vote third party with so much on the line.
It's your vote, so go ahead and waste it on a Republican or Democrat a$$hole.
There is a difference between the R's and D's.
D's will push hard left and it takes decades to undo their damage. Just ask Bush! He spent his whole term dealing with the Clinton's actions.
Elitist R's just want big government so they can win contracts with huge numbers. Less damage in the end compared to demoncrap! I must admit there are a few repugs I will not vote for such as McCrazy and any bush.
You can vote for third party. The grownups will vote to keep America alive for at least another term and pray we can vote someone in that will be closer to our values. But to allow the worst most corrupt candidate in history be elected because we just wanted to prove a point is lunacy!
Justified posted on 2016-10-08 22:51:58 Reply Private Reply
#40: GrandIsland To: Deckard (#0)
Stick your liberal slanted MSM BULLSHIT UP YOUR BLM LOVING ASS
GrandIsland posted on 2016-10-08 23:08:13 Reply Private Reply
#41: Hondo68 To: Fred Mertz, Giuliani Ailes hit team, *Arab Spring Jihad* (#38)
At least you're not voting for D&R party of Jihad homegrown terrorists, Trump and Clinton. They're neocon nut cases, and globalist world police goons.
Rudy Giuliani spotted leaving Playhouse Sq at lunchtime, Roger Ailes? Working out the details of the contract on Trump?
Hondo68 posted on 2016-10-08 23:17:01 Reply Private Reply
#42: nolu chan To: hondo68 (#35)
The neo-cons should just go back to their socialist roots.
nolu chan posted on 2016-10-09 00:30:49 Reply Private Reply
#43: Roscoe To: Justified (#36)
No surprise there.
Roscoe posted on 2016-10-09 10:35:00 Reply Private Reply
#44: misterwhite To: nolu chan (#34)
The videotape of Donald Trump that is shaking up the presidential election sat forgotten for 11 years on a shelf at NBC's "Access Hollywood" until just
a few days ago30 days before the Presidential election.Fixed it.
misterwhite posted on 2016-10-09 10:56:03 Reply Private Reply
#45: Justified To: misterwhite, nolu chan (#44)
Thats how long it took to find dirt on Trump. Whereas Clinton's its all known. Even the roamers have been proven to be true. Wikileaks is just proven what the right has always said about Clinton's.
I find it funny that the left hate wall-street backers, liars, career politicians, back stabbers, 2 face, get rich in office by selling out the office, crony capitalist, women hating, America hating, murderous warring hacks as political leaders but they are still willing to over look everything to back the demoncrap party nominee Clinton! BTW Im sure I left off a crap load.
Justified posted on 2016-10-09 11:51:54 Reply Private Reply
#46: HomerBohn To: Deckard (#0)
HomerBohn posted on 2016-10-09 17:12:07 Reply Private Reply
#47: BobCeleste To: goldilucky (#32)
But, Donald touched on it, scratched the surface of it last night.
BobCeleste posted on 2016-10-10 08:29:53 Reply Private Reply