I would have named Putin. He's definitely a man worthy of respect.

I would have named Putin. He's definitely a man worthy of respect.

I wish he had. Putin stands up for the interests of Russia in terms of geopolitical affairs. This is why the world respects him and laughs at Obama.

I am convinced that Trump will stand up for America.

How can all you fanatically anti-constitutional prohibitionists keep insisting that there are Paultard potheads who continue say that previous research does not suggests smoking marijuana daily may affect short-term memory and that even casual use of marijuana can lead to brain changes….even when another study now shows that teenagers who smoke regularly but then kick the habit in a couple of years may see their long-term memory take a hit too? ---- When 'THEY' don't exist???

Every time in the future when I read or hear the word PAULTARD, a mental visualization of gatlin, (a phony major), and the demented leader of the 'canary clan' here at LF, sitting there in a stupor and dumbfounded, in his mom's basement, this vision will flash through my mind.

ROTFLMAO …

...sitting there is (sic) a stupor and dumbfounded...

In a segment aired on September 30, 2008, (Katie) Couric asked (Sarah) Palin about her taste in periodicals:

COURIC: And when it comes to establishing your world view, I was curious, what newspapers and magazines did you regularly read before you were tapped for this—to stay informed and to understand the world?

PALIN: I've read most of them again with a great appreciation for the press, for the media, coming f—

COURIC: But like which ones specifically? I'm curious that you—

PALIN: Um, all of 'em, any of 'em that, um, have, have been in front of me over all these years. Um, I have a va—

COURIC: Can you name a few?

PALIN: I have a vast variety of sources where we get our news too. Alaska isn't a foreign country, where, it's kind of suggested and it seems like, 'Wow, how could you keep in touch with what the rest of Washington, D.C. may be thinking and doing when you live up there in Alaska?' Believe me, Alaska is like a microcosm of America.

I am convinced that Trump will stand up for America.

Gatlin

I am convinced that you imagine that Trump will stand up for an authoritarian regime that will fulfill your fondest prohibitionist schemes.

You're wrong. -- Trump is almost libertarian in some aspects of his willingness to 'deal' with progressives.

In fact, his remarks about gun control at the recent debate gave me the impression he agreed with Hillary about 'gun violence'. -- Anybody got that portion of the transcript?

Since you are delving into the past and since you have often touted Ron Paul as a sane voice of reason, let’s then take an opportunity to take a close look at some of the things YOUR former presidential candidate Ron Paul has actually said in public and in print to prove that he is just another nutty fruitcake libertarian.

Back in 2008, Ron Paul parroted an outright lie of how our forefathers actually didn't want a separation between church and state when he said: "The Founding Fathers envisioned a robustly Christian yet religiously tolerant America, with churches serving as vital institutions that would eclipse the state in importance." Uh, hold on there Ron, church and state were always intended to be separate entities with no influence over the other.

Uh, hold on there Ron, church and state were always intended to be separate entities with no influence over the other.

It's "freedom of religion", NOT freedom FROM religion, you progressive queer heathen!

God bless Ron Paul.

I am convinced that Trump will stand up for America.

I am convinced that you imagine that Trump will stand up for an authoritarian regime that will fulfill your fondest prohibitionist schemes, and, --- that you are too chickenshit to debate the issue.

"The Founding Fathers envisioned a robustly Christian yet religiously tolerant America, with churches serving as vital institutions that would eclipse the state in importance." Uh, hold on there Ron, church and state were always intended to be separate entities with no influence over the other.

Assuming he said this..... what's the problem?

Separation of church and state has nothing to do with the above statement. Read it again.

All it's saying is that the founders saw churches as playing a role in the development of America, and that role would be more prominent than the role of government.

What does that opinion have to do with separation of church and state?

Is your view of church one where it has no role in shaping American culture? Is shaping American culture something only Government should be allowed to do?

All it's saying is that the founders saw churches as playing a role in the development of America, and that role would be more prominent than the role of government.

The Founding Fathers saw churches as playing a role in the development of America?

“The Founding Fathers envisioned a robustly Christian yet religiously tolerant America, with churches serving as vital institutions that would eclipse the state in importance.” — Ron Paul

Ron Paul also said: “The notion of a rigid separation between church and state has no basis in either the text of the Constitution or the writings of our Founding Fathers. On the contrary, our Founders’ political views were strongly informed by their religious beliefs.”

How can it be, as Ron Paul stated, the Founding Fathers have envisioned a robustly Christian America with churches serving as vital institutions and the notion of a separation between church and state have no basis in the writings of our Founding Fathers when our Founding Fathers openly stated:

“The Government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion.”
1797 Treaty of Tripoli signed by Founding Father John Adams

“This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it.”
John Adams

“The civil government functions with complete success by the total separation of the Church from the State.”
Founding Father James Madison, 1819,

“Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.”
Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, February 10, 1814

“Every new and successful example of a perfect separation between ecclesiastical and civil matters is of importance.”
James Madison — letter, 1822

“Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise.”
James Madison — Letter to Wm. Bradford, April 1, 1774

“The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity. Nowhere in the Gospels do we find a precept for Creeds, Confessions, Oaths, Doctrines, and whole cartloads of other foolish trumpery that we find in Christianity.”
John Adams

“Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise.”
James Madison — Letter to Wm. Bradford, April 1, 1774

“In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own. It is error alone that needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself.”
Thomas Jefferson — in a letter to Horatio Spofford, 1814

“History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance of which their civil as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purposes.”
Thomas Jefferson — in letter to Alexander von Humboldt, December 6, 1813

“Have you considered that system of holy lies and pious frauds that has raged and triumphed for 1,500 years?”
John Adams

“Can a free government possibly exist with the Roman Catholic religion?”
John Adams — letter to Thomas Jefferson

“The priesthood have, in all ancient nations, nearly monopolized learning. And ever since the Reformation, when or where has existed a Protestant or dissenting sect who would tolerate A FREE INQUIRY? The blackest billingsgate, the most ungentlemanly insolence, the most yahooish brutality, is patiently endured, countenanced, propagated, and applauded. But touch a solemn truth in collision with a dogma of a sect, though capable of the clearest proof, and you will find you have disturbed a nest, and the hornets will swarm about your eyes and hand, and fly into your face and eyes.”
John Adams — letter to John Taylor

“The question before the human race is, whether the God of Nature shall govern the world by his own laws, or whether priests and kings shall rule it by fictitious miracles?”
John Adams

“And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter.”
Thomas Jefferson to John Adams

“Congress has no power to make any religious establishments.”
Roger Sherman, Congress, August 19, 1789

“The hocus-pocus phantasm of a God like another Cerberus, with one body and three heads, had its birth and growth in the blood of thousands and thousands of martyrs.”
Thomas Jefferson — Letter to James Smith, December 8, 1822

“Experience witnesseth that ecclesiastical establishments, instead of maintaining the purity and efficacy of religion, have had a contrary operation. During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution.”
James Madison, Ibid, 1785

“Strongly guarded as is the separation between Religion and Government in the Constitution of the United States, the danger of encroachment by Ecclesiastical Bodies, may be illustrated by precedents already furnished in their short history.”
James Madison; Monopolies, Perpetuities, Corporations, Ecclesiastical Endowments

“If I could conceive that the general government might ever be so administered as to render the liberty of conscience insecure, I beg you will be persuaded, that no one would be more zealous than myself to establish effectual barriers against the horrors of spiritual tyranny, and every species of religious persecution.”
George Washington, letter to the United Baptist Chamber of Virginia, May 1789

“Of all the animosities which have existed among mankind, those which are caused by a difference of sentiments in religion appear to be the most inveterate and distressing, and ought to be deprecated.”
George Washington — letter to Edward Newenham, October 20, 1792

The Founding Fathers saw churches as playing a role in the development of America?

This is news to you?

Would an auto manufacturer not recognize the role railways play in America's development?

Do you think the founders were completely blind to the comings and goings of people from all walks of life that taking place all around them? They didn't design a system of government that would dominate all aspects of life. They instead created a system of government that would _serve_ the people as the people went about their own business and progress.

And faith is but one aspect the people, many of them, possess. Why should the founders have been blind to that?

My Post did not completely print....I edited it.

Do you think the founders were completely blind ...

I think the Founding Fathers expressed their views about religion most eloquently as quoted in my post

Okay, are we discussing Ron's view of the founders, or yours or someone else's or what?

You posted a quote allegedly made by Ron Paul and ridiculed it. I pointed out there was nothing wrong with it and challenged you to reread it, and then you post another quote he allegedly made.

I'm not in the mood to place every syllable made by Ron under a microscope as you seem to be fond of doing. Ron isn't perfect and I don't worship him as much as you are apparently obsessed with him.

And his vice presidential choice said his favorite leader is Mama Merkel, who opened the floodgates to millions of Islamist's. Libertarians are bigger cucks than the GOPe.

Johnson & Weld are the capstone of the failed Libertarian Party. The only thing more enjoyable than watching Trump galvanize the Deplorable Masses, is seeing the Aleppo whack job blow up the legalize marijuana movement.

The Government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion.”
1797 Treaty of Tripoli signed by Founding Father John Adams

You're upset because Ron Paul offended the Barbary Pirates of Tripoli, Marco Rubio, and Hillary? That phrase was taken out of the treaty a few years later.

A second treaty, the Treaty of Peace and Amity signed on July 4, 1805, superseded the 1796 treaty. The 1805 treaty did not contain the phrase "not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion."[16][17]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Tripoli#Later_dissent

Tripoli Barbary Pirates of Libya, Rubio, McCain, and other assorted Muslims (ISIS), offended by Christianity and Ron Paul.

Johnson Hits Back: “I still can’t come up with a foreign leader I look up to”

The day after being unable to answer which current foreign leader he looks up to, Gary Johnson is hitting back against his critics. He tweeted Thursday:

It’s been almost 24 hours…and I still can’t come up with a foreign leader I look up to.

— Gov. Gary Johnson (@GovGaryJohnson) September 29, 2016

Johnson’s tweet points out first, the ridiculous nature of such a question, and second, the absurdity of being expected to “admire” a foreign leader.

As a Libertarian, Johnson wishes to avoid foreign entanglements. Moreover, the rest of the world is in general much more big government-oriented than the United States. While Clinton and Trump express admiration for authoritarian strongmen, the Libertarian nominee, like most libertarians has issues choosing the “least evil” from the rest of the world.

If there were more prominent libertarian leaders throughout the world, perhaps the question would be a more realistic one. However, much like ambiguously asking about policy on “Aleppo,” this seems like a question which would only be directed toward Governor Johnson. The issue is not thinking of a world leader in a split-second, but rather in inevitably “tying” oneself to that individual by expressing admiration. No matter who the Libertarian nominee were to name, he would likely receive blowback from any and all sides for that answer.