Trump starts at 1:02:00. His 10-point policy starts at 1:22:00
Massive Crowd Donald Trump Rally and Speech, Phoenix Arizona
| Source: | Conservative Tree House |
| Published: | Sep 1, 2016 |
| Author: | sundance |
| Post Date: | 2016-09-01 10:49:34 by misterwhite |
| Views: | 5581 |
#1: paraclete To: misterwhite (#0)
paraclete posted on 2016-09-02 01:37:28 Reply Private Reply
#2: Fred Mertz To: paraclete (#1)
Yes.
Next question?
Fred Mertz posted on 2016-09-02 03:32:37 Reply Private Reply
#3: Fred Mertz To: paraclete (#1)
I think that is obvious to the casual observer.
Fred Mertz posted on 2016-09-02 03:43:37 Reply Private Reply
#4: paraclete To: Fred Mertz (#3)
paraclete posted on 2016-09-02 08:31:53 Reply Private Reply
#5: misterwhite To: paraclete (#1)
Because he wants to enforce existing law?
Has it ever occurred to you that the way we currently handle immigration and illegal aliens is sheer lunacy? Sanctuary cities, catch-and-release, welcoming Syrian refugees, government assistance (including welfare, education, healthcare, and food stamps) to illegals, and voting rights.
Illegals cost us $100 billion per year -- money we don't have. You want to keep them and add more? Who's stark raving mad?
misterwhite posted on 2016-09-02 09:11:20 Reply Private Reply
#6: Stoner To: misterwhite (#5)
Very well stated !!
I think most of the people that are anti Trump are either part of the establishment; they think he will disrupt whatever scam they are part of; they are actually for Shitlerly; they are butt hurt sore losers that were for Cruz / Bush / Rubio / Catshit, or whoever; or they are trend followers and think it is " trendy & cool " to be anti Trump. Take your pick.
Stoner posted on 2016-09-02 10:37:46 Reply Private Reply
#7: paraclete To: misterwhite (#5)
No, because he thinks the national interest is served by repeating stupid ideas. It is not stupid to propose a wall, a wall of sorts is already being constructed, but to suggest he can arbitrarily demand and enforce his will on another sovereign nation. It is stupid to suggest that the citizens of another nation are all criminals, drug dealers and rapists. It is stupid to conduct talks with a leader of another nation when all you are going to do afterward is antagonise the citizens of that nation.
There is no political capital in enforcing existing laws, but he sees political capital in making radical pronouncements
paraclete posted on 2016-09-02 20:15:53 Reply Private Reply
#8: tpaine To: paraclete, Y'ALL (#7)
Paraclete thinks some of Trumps ideas are stupid. --- BFD...
Tariffs are arbitrary taxes on the imports of sovereign nations. It is not stupid to suggest that such tariffs could pay for a wall.
It is stupid to contend Trump made such a suggestion.
It is stupid to claim that Trump antagonized anyone by his talks with Mexico's president.
Your entire critique is stupidly done. Get help.
tpaine posted on 2016-09-02 21:42:58 Reply Private Reply
#9: ConservingFreedom To: All (#0)
ConservingFreedom posted on 2016-09-02 22:06:11 Reply Private Reply
#10: paraclete To: tpaine (#8)
I'm in good company, everything Dump does is stupidly done
paraclete posted on 2016-09-03 07:11:47 Reply Private Reply
#11: A K A Stone To: paraclete (#7)
A K A Stone posted on 2016-09-03 08:35:11 Reply Private Reply
#12: A K A Stone To: Fred Mertz (#3)
A K A Stone posted on 2016-09-03 08:36:01 Reply Private Reply
#13: paraclete To: A K A Stone (#11)
Dump is a legend in his own bathroom. Yes he can tax everything that moves including you but what you are talking about is trade war with a NAFTA partner. I expect you will find the cartels will create a lucrative business laundering payments after all they have to get their money back already so just a tweek is needed.
Dump spouts off at the mouth without thinking the implications through, tax the payments and the payments find a way around, like more holidays in Mexico with legals as mules, deport the illegals and the crops don't get picked, etc. Americans don't like living without slaves, sorry, servants or serfs. The blacks gave up working in the field years ago. renegotiate international agreements. Goodbye free trade, I feel a tariff coming on
paraclete posted on 2016-09-03 08:50:01 Reply Private Reply
#14: Justified To: Fred Mertz, paraclete (#2)
Its Hillary or Trump. Pick your poison.
I still think Trump is a thousand times better. I know that may sound like a ringing endorsement but what that means is that Hillary will end US forever. There will be no picking up after her. Obama has just about destroyed the free markets with the MSM protecting him at all cost. If we had a true news press he would have never been elected president twice let alone once. Put Hillary back to back with Obama and its over. She will keep doing the same, then give amnesty to 10 million plus illegal aliens and remove the borders to let anyone in. She will keep using her position to sell America out for money while the justice system looks the other way. She will Make Angela Merkel look conservative and sane!
Justified posted on 2016-09-03 09:06:21 Reply Private Reply
#15: A K A Stone To: paraclete (#13)
A K A Stone posted on 2016-09-03 09:25:17 Reply Private Reply
#16: tpaine To: A K A Stone (#15)
The creep is beyond simple stupidity. --It's probably genetic.
tpaine posted on 2016-09-03 23:06:23 Reply Private Reply
#17: paraclete To: tpaine (#16)
paraclete posted on 2016-09-04 22:47:24 Reply Private Reply
#18: nolu chan To: paraclete, misterwhite (#7)
It is supremely stupid to claim that Trump said he could arbitrarily demand and enforce his will on another sovereign nation, in this case Mexico. Mexico needs the U.S. more than the U.S. needs Mexico. The U.S. most certainly build a wall. The U.S. can most certainly deport those eligible for deportation. The U.S. can most certainly implement controls severely limiting the illegal alien's ability to illegally obtain employment. The U.S can most certainly limit, tax, or just stop transfers of money from the U.S. to Mexico. The U.S. can unilaterally shut the border altogether if it chooses. The U.S. can cease trade with Mexico. By proclamation alone, the President has the power to stop the entry of any class of people from entering the country (8 U.S.C. 1182(f)).
In short, the U.S. can make paying for the wall the cost of doing business. Pay it or take your business elsewhere. The U.S. can still build the wall, and the cost of building a door would equal the cost of building the wall. Of course, if all trade ceased, all the American companies doing such things as making cars they could no longer ship to the U.S. would probably leave. Mexico could volunteer or not volunteer to pay for the wall. Mexico can be strongly encouraged to pay for the wall.
The U.S. can volunteer, or not volunteer, to accept millions of illegal aliens entering from Mexico.
It is even more stupid to claim that Trump said the citizens of another nation are all criminals. Criminals, drug dealers and rapists are unlawfully crossing the southern border and committing crimes in the USA. Trump is correct.
nolu chan posted on 2016-09-04 23:28:57 Reply Private Reply
#19: paraclete To: nolu chan (#18)
Dump is a dill, he prognosticates then thinks about it and modifies his remarks until the next time. He also said some are good people as an afterthought but later remarks suggest he didn't mean it. Look, you can do anything you want to do, but is it desirable? The US have a trade agreement with mexico which encouraged companies to establish themselves in mexico, if that agreement is torn up, is the US going to compensate those companies? the cost might be more than the cost of the wall. You can destroy the economy of mexico, this is not to your advantage. It just means more poor peasants trying to come north. You can fill your FEMA camps with illegal aliens, and deport them to mexico but when you are finished what have you got? another failed state on your doorstep. You will build a wall and the mexicans will tunnel under it, they already do this. You need a different strategy, isolationism is not going to solve this problem
paraclete posted on 2016-09-05 01:16:10 Reply Private Reply
#20: nolu chan To: paraclete (#19)
I would tell them to go screw themselves. The government encouraged them? What lobbyists do you think worked to get NAFTA?
NAFTA is not to our advantage, unless you like giant sucking sounds.
Mexico could let its economy be destroyed or get its mind right. They are facilitating the flow of illegal aliens from all over South America.
We will ask an Israeli how to stop that.
You need a different strategy. NAFTA and exporting our jobs, and importing their drugs and criminals does not work. Deporting illegal aliens is not isolationism. If it takes a wall to stop the flood, that is because Mexico is faciltating the flood. Strongly encouraging Mexicans to behave better is not isolationism.
Cutting off all benefits and employment for illegal aliens is not isolationism.
nolu chan posted on 2016-09-05 01:40:50 Reply Private Reply
#21: misterwhite To: paraclete (#7)
Mexico has done nothing to stop the illegals from crossing. Actually, they've encouraged and assisted that activity.
So yeah, they should pay for the construction.
misterwhite posted on 2016-09-05 10:23:18 Reply Private Reply
#22: paraclete To: misterwhite (#21)
paraclete posted on 2016-09-05 11:03:43 Reply Private Reply