Because if he does not win Hillary will win!

Because he will do much much much less damage than Hillary.

Protest and stick my finger in the elite's eye.

Break the cycle of elites picking who they want.

His ups side could be big and his down side will be another bush.

What will hillary do?

She will keep Obama care.

She will pass Amnesty.

She will pass 3-4 USSC justices of the Ginsberg variety.

She will be the most corrupt president in history.

She will be Obama's 3 & 4th term.

If she wins there will never be a right of center president, EVER!

She [He] will keep Obama care.

She [He] will pass Amnesty.

She [He] will pass 3-4 USSC justices of the Ginsberg variety.

She [He] will be the most corrupt president in history.

She [He] will be Obama's 3 & 4th term.

If she [He] wins there will never be a right of center president, EVER!

Trump has already promised to, rename and keep ObamaCare. He's promised Supreme's like his sister, radical progressives.

Obama has already been W's 3rd & 4th terms, so Trump would be the 5th & 6th terms of George W. Bush.

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Trump has already promised to, rename and keep ObamaCare. He's promised Supreme's like his sister, radical progressives.

Obama has already been W's 3rd & 4th terms, so Trump would be the 5th & 6th terms of George W. Bush.

He said he would get rid of Obamacare and replace it with something better for whatever that means. Obamacare is fatcats dream. Forced payment for shitty health care you can not refuse to have. Hillary will double down on Obamacare. So hillary will make a bad situation worse.

Trump's USSC picks will be a billion times better than hillary's picks.

Obama was not bush 3 & 4th term. I dream of the days when we had shitty bush in charge. The only reason there is still an economy is that the MSM refuse to publish the truth of what damage Obama has done and the trillions US is spending to keep the economy going. The damage will not end once Obama leaves office and will only get worse if not stopped. Hillary will not stop but pile on too it.

For everything you bring up Hillary will be a 1000 times worse. Thats why I will vote for Trump. I have no illusion that he is conservative. But im trying to keep America from falling down the rabbit's hole we can not come back from. I guess you are too blind to see how close to the utter destruction America is in. Maybe you have some sadistic desire to see America crushed? Maybe you have some belief a new great America will rise out of the ashes. Let me tell you it won't.

I dream of the days when we had shitty bush in charge.

Which one? The one that said, "Read my lips, no new taxes" or the one that claimed, "VICTORY" after about a week after the son-of-a-bitch made war in Iraq with "SHOCK & AWE"?

Hillary is the most openly corrupt presidential candidate in US history.

The corruption factor is probably the one item that marks the biggest difference between them. Given that, what H stands for policy-wise is really completely immaterial. She will not do what's in the country's interests, but her own. So if any of those things happen to align with a particular voter's preference, it's purely coincidental.

There is an argument that could be made that voting for the worst candidate is best because it brings about the inevitable collapse that much sooner. In that case, H should get your vote.

Which one? The one that said, "Read my lips, no new taxes" or the one that claimed, "VICTORY" after about a week after the son-of-a-bitch made war in Iraq with "SHOCK & AWE"?

Either one.

As for war? Well I have the neoclowns warring the world or I can have the neolibs warring America. Gee what a hard decision!

... my vote doesnt count.

Washington DC?

Because we need to go in a different direction. The inexorable drift to the left is killing our american culture.

As an opinion, you have a good post.

Here's a very serious set of allegations against H. It's a short watch.

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Extracted from RLK, The Analytic papers:

"If a woman with the intelligence and class of Margaret Thatcher were running for the American presidency today, she’ get my vote. Hillary is no Margaret Thatcher. She never will be. The necessary maturity, class, and integrity are just not there. To put it in language we can all understand, Hillary has the same amount of depth, finesse, dignity, and integrity one would expect to find in the female manager of a five dollar whorehouse. That marks her as acceptable among a large proportion of the population possessing similar characteristics."

Why are you voting for Donald Trump?

OR

Why are you NOT voting for Donald Trump?

1. He is an emotionally fragile drama queen.

2. He has no political experience

3. He is a narrow-minded bigot

4. He is a conspiracy theory believing kook

5. He is an extremely poor leader

6. He is dishonest and untrustworthy

7. He has dealt unfairly with his workers, his vendors, suppliers, and subcontractors as his primary means of "negotiation"

8. He is a weak and shallow man who disrespects women and mocks the disabled, elderly, and infirm.

9. He would be the worst president in history.

Whatever you say about Trump Hillary is a 1000 times worse. So if you think Trump is bad Hillary should absolutely freakout out your unborn children!

Take a pick Hillary or Trump. I wish it weren't so but it is.

Like I have said the worst Trump is better than the best Hillary.

Like I have said the worst Trump is better than the best Hillary.

So, you agree with my points, but just think "Hillary is a 1000 times worse."

1. He is an emotionally fragile drama queen.
Mrs. Clinton seems quite stable emotionally, almost emotionless.

2. He has no political experience
Mrs. Clinton has a great deal of political experience

3. He is a narrow-minded bigot
Mrs. Clinton seems fairly open-minded and inclusive

4. He is a conspiracy theory believing kook
Mrs Clinton hasn't made many kooky claims... however she does promise to open the books on UFO's

5. He is an extremely poor leader
Mrs. Clinton is actually a very effective leader

6. He is dishonest and untrustworthy
Ok - this one is a push..........

7. He has dealt unfairly with his workers, his vendors, suppliers, and subcontractors as his primary means of "negotiation"
Mrs. Clinton's experience in business pales in comparison substantively, but could never really be considered as ruthlessly selfish as Mr. Trump.

8. He is a weak and shallow man who disrespects women and mocks the disabled, elderly, and infirm.
Mrs. Clinton exhibits none of these traits

9. He would be the worst president in history.
Based on the 7 points above, the ninth point is valid.

Mrs. Clinton seems quite stable emotionally, almost emotionless.

As she watches babies being murdered and you smile.

You're a sicko. I hope Trump puts you in a concentration camp.

I hope Trump puts you in a concentration camp.

I missed that one. Is that on the Trump platform?

I hope Trump puts you in a concentration camp.

LOL!

Funny!!

So, anyway, please refute the opinions expressed regarding Mr. Trump !!

Or perhaps we should add #10. Mr Trump is perceived to be a "would-be" fascist dictator......at least according to you.....

Why are you NOT voting for Donald Trump?

1. He is an emotionally fragile drama queen.

No, I don't see that at all.

2. He has no political experience

That's a plus, not a minus.

3. He is a narrow-minded bigot

I disagree.

4. He is a conspiracy theory believing kook

That the Clintons have corrupt influence over the gov? It's apparently true.

5. He is an extremely poor leader

No, as a real estate mogul, he has plenty of leadership experience.

6. He is dishonest and untrustworthy

I've seen no evidence of this.

7. He has dealt unfairly with his workers, his vendors, suppliers, and subcontractors as his primary means of "negotiation"

Possibly with business contacts he's been harsh and as aggressive as the law allows, but the consensus seems to be that among those who've worked with him, he's very fair. He's also been generous in charitable causes for people who've needed help.

8. He is a weak and shallow man who disrespects women and mocks the disabled, elderly, and infirm.

No, don't see that either. The media attempts to cast him that way, but I think the reality is that he deals with these groups without regard to their status, which comes off as disrespecting the group they are in, instead of what they have specifically done.

9. He would be the worst president in history.

No, not at all.

His biggest negative is he is very proud / arrogant. He thinks he can do everything, and I think he'll discover how limited he is once he gets elected. He's also an authoritarian, and doesn't seem to have much sympathy for people wanting to exercise their civil rights. As a lifelong millionaire, he doesn't have experience with having to live helplessly under rules or regs that are unfair or unjust.

On the plus side, he's not corrupt in the way the Clinton's are openly so. He's not running for prez for his own benefit, unlike Hillary who craves the power of the One Ring that Rules them All,and who said she deserved to be president. Trump has a sound concern and respect for the country (though again with differing ideas from me about what's best) and has potential to clean out corruption inside of DC which is enormous.

He won't do everything I like. He'll do things I don't like. But he's the man for the job. Hillary will suck wealth out of the US for her own personal benefit.

1. He is an emotionally fragile drama queen. - No, I don't see that at all. – OK, you are ignoring the obvious - IMHO

2. He has no political experience - That's a plus, not a minus.

Not for the most powerful leader in the world. It is a frightening scenario indeed. This arrogant man, having the launch codes at his disposal? NO! Even Ted Cruz would be less of a threat to the continued existence of the world.

3. He is a narrow-minded bigot - I disagree.

Convince me – please cite some examples of his open-minded inclusiveness. - And eating Taco Bell doesn’t count!

4. He is a conspiracy theory believing kook - That the Clintons have corrupt influence over the gov? It's apparently true.

No, he’s a Birther, and anti-vaxer, and he believes that Cruz’s father was involved with the Kennedy assassination. He also references stories from The National Enquirer as being reputable…and as recently as last week, stated publicly that the election will be rigged. I believe he’s a whack-job.

5. He is an extremely poor leader - No, as a real estate mogul, he has plenty of leadership experience.

Longevity does not make one a good leader. His leadership style is that of a bully. Taking advantage of whomever he can, because he can. NOT good leadership.

6. He is dishonest and untrustworthy - I've seen no evidence of this. Look into the operations of, bankruptcy, and soon-to-be closing of the Trump Taj Mahal in AC.

7. He has dealt unfairly with his workers, his vendors, suppliers, and subcontractors as his primary means of "negotiation - Possibly with business contacts he's been harsh and as aggressive as the law allows, but the consensus seems to be that among those who've worked with him, he's very fair. He's also been generous in charitable causes for people who've needed help.

See # 5 above as an example -

8. He is a weak and shallow man who disrespects women and mocks the disabled, elderly, and infirm. - No, don't see that either. The media attempts to cast him that way, but I think the reality is that he deals with these groups without regard to their status, which comes off as disrespecting the group they are in, instead of what they have specifically done.

You can choose to “see” him any way you wish, his weakness and insecurity is obvious to me, and millions of others.

9. He would be the worst president in history.

No, not at all.

On the plus side, he's not corrupt in the way the Clinton's are openly so. He's not running for prez for his own benefit, unlike Hillary who craves the power of the One Ring that Rules them All,and who said she deserved to be president. Trump has a sound concern and respect for the country (though again with differing ideas from me about what's best) and has potential to clean out corruption inside of DC which is enormous.

I think this is the area in which we really disagree. The Donald Trump I see has no concern or respect for anyone or anything beyond his own interests. He doesn’t even have any sincere respect or loyalty to his own party! He will bully his way to personal gain at the expense of anyone who offers any resistance. I remain unconvinced that he would “clean out corruption” in fact I believe that if he were to be elected the level of corruption in Washington would rise to the Mugabe level by this time next year.

Political experience has nothing to do with possessing power to launch nukes. Unless you can find a historic case of a politician launching nukes correctly and justly.

Taking advantage of people has nothing to do with leadership, either positively or negatively.

Dealing with bankruptcy has nothing to do with honesty.

There is plenty of room for emotionally charged characterizations against Trump. A lot of people don't just disfavor him, but outright hate him. For them, and perhaps you, seeing Trump in an unfavorable light is "obvious". Your responses to me are not particularly impressive in substantiating anything objectively negative about Trump.

No, Trump is not perfect, and again I'll concede he does have negative points I don't like. But just because someone doesn't like his personality or manners does NOT mean he's not the best fit for president. He's not running for pope, after all. And Hillary's negatives are far, far worse.

OMG where have you been for the last 20 years? Hello Hillary is the most unstable person on the planet. Cross her and she will have you killed. Thats not a joke thats reality in Hillary's world.

2. He has no political experience Mrs. Clinton has a great deal of political experience

Are you trying to be a smart ass??????????????

If Hillary is ok for you on any level you need to seek help. Anyone that thinks Hillary is ok for US has some major mental issues that need to be dealt with, asap!

If Hillary is ok for you on any level you need to seek help. Anyone that thinks Hillary is ok for US has some major mental issues that need to be dealt with, asap!

I can't help but agree. It's beyond my comprehension how anyone not directly in the Clinton circle of corruption would vote for H over Trump. Surely no one more openly corrupt than Clinton has ever run for US president.

And yes, Hillary is very egotistical and self serving. She thinks she deserves to be president, and NO ONE fits that bill. The threat of a nuclear war is far higher with her than Trump or any other president since the Cuban missile crisis.

Oh, I see... you're a "clinton body count" believer......now I understand. and it is actually a joke, on you.

Mrs. Clinton has a great deal of political experience - Are you trying to be a smart ass?

No, Mrs. Clinton was the first lady, and very involved in government for 8 years during Bill's presidency, she was elected to the senate, and was secretary of state. How is my statement wrong?

Your responses to me are not particularly impressive in substantiating anything objectively negative about Trump.

That's ok, I am simply responding to a post asking why I would (or would not) vote for the donald.

My responses are my opinions. I see trump as the worst possible choice as president. I do not hate him. and I will not vote for him.

It's beyond my comprehension how anyone not directly in the Clinton circle of corruption would vote for H over Trump.

I'm really not planning to vote for Mrs. Clinton, and I am not a Clinton supporter.

It shouldn't be necessary. I think Trump will lose my state without my vote.

Are you suggesting that there are ~ 65 million members of the Clinton Circle-o-Corruption?????? (The CCoC)

Cross her and she will have you killed. Thats not a joke thats reality in Hillary's world.

Oh, I see... you're a "clinton body count" believer......now I understand. and it is actually a joke, on you.

You can't deny that many people dying after crossing her as just a statistical anomaly.

No, Mrs. Clinton was the first lady, and very involved in government for 8 years during Bill's presidency, she was elected to the senate, and was secretary of state. How is my statement wrong?

Are you just stupid or corrupt?

Her political experience has been dealing with bimbo gate! I can hear her laughing at the rape victims now while claiming to be a champing of women's rights!

Her political experience has been scaring everyone in ear shot of her when she has a fit. Ask bubba about his black eyes! Ask the SS how they are not allowed to be in her eye sight. Ask about how much she hates to see military uniforms in the white house!

Her political experience is having her email server in her house in a bathroom. The same server that has been hacked so much that no one can tell who has hacked it.

Her political experience is getting people murdered because of her incompetence ie Benghazi.

But hey she sure knows how to duck a snipers bullet!!

But she sure knows how to sell US secrets!

You can't deny that many people dying after crossing her as just a statistical anomaly.

"statistical anomaly"

I suggest nothing of the sort. I do suggest that there are people who are emotionally driven and intellectually weak enough to feel that "THEY" are in the know, that "THEY" possess the truth despite there being no actual scientific evidence. These people are easily led and are easy to influence.

And based on your listing of the "limbaugh talking points" I'd say that might describe you.

suggest nothing of the sort. I do suggest that there are people who are emotionally driven and intellectually weak enough to feel that "THEY" are in the know, that "THEY" possess the truth despite there being no actual scientific evidence. These people are easily led and are easy to influence.

You believe fair tales and I will believe reality.

And based on your listing of the "limbaugh talking points" I'd say that might describe you.

For one I am not ashamed of listening to Rush from time to time. I actually work too much to get time to listen to rush very often. He is slowly coming my way into the conservative/libertarian side. He like many conservatives finally realize what the GOP has been doing and see's if the GOP elites are not defeated there will never be a right of center candidate to hold the presidency or any real power in government ever again.

Fred and Donald Trump, .... Ronald Reagan would not have been on the ballot in New York in 1980

..... both supported Reagan so strongly, because they hated the Bushes.

How many times did the Trumps get this Bush, on the ballot?

Everyone talks about "not Trump" how about "NOT CLINTON". Trump may be a crap-shoot but I know the devil in Hillary. She can not be elected. If she is our children will curse us for the what we have done.

did you listen to his speech today?

No I didn't.

Fill me in....

Do you believe that the main-stream media has a pronounced political bias?

Just wondering.....

On the other hand we have Hillary and Billy Goat Clinton; two of the most corrupted and evil political hounds since Obama. They'll pick up the torch and finish the race to destruction.

Trump is NOT a politician, nor does he owe any interest anything!

He is quickly learning to "shapeshift" as any professional politician ever has; moreover, he has an ego larger than the territorial boundaries of the USA as as a reesult OWES himself the "attaboy."

He is doing this all by himself and I believe his motives are patriotic.

Doing all this by himself? Patriotic? Please explain.

He doesn't want to see America complete the Obama (and liberal Republicrats) Satan-driven life's work of holding America under the water until it stops breathing.

You can't speak for him.

On the other hand we have Hillary and Billy Goat Clinton; two of the most corrupted and evil political hounds since Obama. They'll pick up the torch and finish the race to destruction.

Yawn.

Why would I vote for Hillary?

Because you truly are a fuckin' idiot ...

Why would I vote for Hillary?

Because you're left of center?

Be direct.

Because you're left of center?

Oh, I see, you believe you can predict where someone *IS* on the political spectrum. I am probably a paleo-constitutionalist if you need a classification. "Left," "Center," and "Right" when used to describe the political leaning of someone are archaic expressions for generalized mumbo-jumbo bullshit artists akin to the MSM.

I too am an 'ancient' Constitutionalist since I was old enough to vote over 60 years ago. The problem is that with the exception of Ronald Reagan there were no true 'ancient' Constitutionalists to vote for since Calvin Coolidge.

All other presidents since our first four and a few exceptions like William McKinley, have been mediocre to horrible. Kennedy, Johnson, Carter, Clinton, Bush I and Bush II and of course the scourge of America, Barack Hussein Obama have literally ruined America. If only the clock, Constitutionally, could be set back to 1911 and everything regurgitated forth from that time be evaporated, we might be in good shape.

It doesn't take a full, Conservative professor to accurately predict what would ensue if Hillary Clinton is elected by an amalgam of idiots and dead people, this nation is GWTW.

I too am an 'ancient' Constitutionalist since I was old enough to vote over 60 years ago.

Sorry, I didn't mean to pick on an old man.

The broad over-reach of federal government has destroyed America. So, both Clinton and her rival, Trump, are not on my list to vote for.

You're a liberal hillary supporter. Just like asswipe sneakapeter and retard mertz.

Go fuck yourself, pebbles. You are responsible for all the bad considerations on this little, tiny, puny chit-chat channel by eliminating GREAT posters. Now, you want to fulfill your continuous vile prognostication on me.

Again, to use a cliché: go fuck yourself.

Let the record show that you consider perverts who think two men can be married as" GREAT posters". I consider them freak assholes to be banned. Unamerican pieces of shit.

That is to say: your opinion is some sort of bizarre record. You and anyone else can not find an objective "record" as any evidence that sneakypete suggested such bullshit. The bullshit is contained in your fuckedupped, demented mind.

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February 8, 1920,

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"Needless to say, the most intense passions of revenge have been excited in the breasts of the Russian people."

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v14/v14

Let the record also show that you lie.

ROTFL.

You made the "claim" about sneakypete. Where is the objective evidence that definitively supports your "claims" other than some bizarre inference to an otherwise AWESOME patriot's political position concerning individual rights. Since you are the chit-chat channel administrator, use your majiick powers to search and find and reveal the records within the LF dB. Do it now!

Put uP or shut uP.

Watch out!

It's Sunday; fire and brimstone day for Pebbles.

Watch out!

I understand your point Fred; it is my personal responsibility to spell out Stone's incorrect and complete idiocy on this forum. Stone has fabricated lies; Stone lied to the forum and certainly spelled his lies towards myself about the background of an otherwise AWESOME poster: sneakypete.

Stone can't support his lies or allegations; if Stone could, he would have already performed his supportative data. Stone simply can't support his own opinions.

Watch out!

Governor Moonbeam and The Donald are watching us!

Now I see what is wrong with you.

You're a sick demented piece of foul crap! Isn't there another website for perverts that you can haunt?

Now I see what is wrong with you.

Since you escaped JimRob's forum, Welcome to the Internet!