So, why are you voting for Donald Trump? There has to be a reason. Feel free to enumerate your reasons.
Why are you voting for Donald Trump?
| Source: | LF |
| Published: | Aug 7, 2016 |
| Author: | buckeroo |
| Post Date: | 2016-08-07 11:36:34 by buckeroo |
| Views: | 17992 |
| Source: | LF |
| Published: | Aug 7, 2016 |
| Author: | buckeroo |
| Post Date: | 2016-08-07 11:36:34 by buckeroo |
| Views: | 17992 |
So, why are you voting for Donald Trump? There has to be a reason. Feel free to enumerate your reasons.
#1: Justified To: buckeroo (#0)
Because if he does not win Hillary will win!
Because he will do much much much less damage than Hillary.
Protest and stick my finger in the elite's eye.
Break the cycle of elites picking who they want.
His ups side could be big and his down side will be another bush.
What will hillary do?
She will keep Obama care.
She will pass Amnesty.
She will pass 3-4 USSC justices of the Ginsberg variety.
She will be the most corrupt president in history.
She will be Obama's 3 & 4th term.
If she wins there will never be a right of center president, EVER!
Justified posted on 2016-08-07 12:15:39 Reply Private Reply
#2: Logsplitter To: buckeroo (#0)
Logsplitter posted on 2016-08-07 12:21:39 Reply Private Reply
#3: Hondo68 To: Justified, seen one Bush, seen em all (#1)
Trump has already promised to, rename and keep ObamaCare. He's promised Supreme's like his sister, radical progressives.
Obama has already been W's 3rd & 4th terms, so Trump would be the 5th & 6th terms of George W. Bush.
Donald Bush Trump, undocumented Bush brother
Hondo68 posted on 2016-08-07 12:48:22 Reply Private Reply
#4: BorisY To: buckeroo (#0)
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BorisY posted on 2016-08-07 12:48:32 Reply Private Reply
#5: Justified To: hondo68 (#3)
He said he would get rid of Obamacare and replace it with something better for whatever that means. Obamacare is fatcats dream. Forced payment for shitty health care you can not refuse to have. Hillary will double down on Obamacare. So hillary will make a bad situation worse.
Trump's USSC picks will be a billion times better than hillary's picks.
Obama was not bush 3 & 4th term. I dream of the days when we had shitty bush in charge. The only reason there is still an economy is that the MSM refuse to publish the truth of what damage Obama has done and the trillions US is spending to keep the economy going. The damage will not end once Obama leaves office and will only get worse if not stopped. Hillary will not stop but pile on too it.
For everything you bring up Hillary will be a 1000 times worse. Thats why I will vote for Trump. I have no illusion that he is conservative. But im trying to keep America from falling down the rabbit's hole we can not come back from. I guess you are too blind to see how close to the utter destruction America is in. Maybe you have some sadistic desire to see America crushed? Maybe you have some belief a new great America will rise out of the ashes. Let me tell you it won't.
Justified posted on 2016-08-07 13:15:05 Reply Private Reply
#6: buckeroo To: BorisY (#4)
buckeroo posted on 2016-08-07 13:16:06 Reply Private Reply
#7: buckeroo To: Justified (#5)
Which one? The one that said, "Read my lips, no new taxes" or the one that claimed, "VICTORY" after about a week after the son-of-a-bitch made war in Iraq with "SHOCK & AWE"?
buckeroo posted on 2016-08-07 13:19:49 Reply Private Reply
#8: Pinguinite To: buckeroo (#0)
Hillary is the most openly corrupt presidential candidate in US history.
The corruption factor is probably the one item that marks the biggest difference between them. Given that, what H stands for policy-wise is really completely immaterial. She will not do what's in the country's interests, but her own. So if any of those things happen to align with a particular voter's preference, it's purely coincidental.
There is an argument that could be made that voting for the worst candidate is best because it brings about the inevitable collapse that much sooner. In that case, H should get your vote.
Pinguinite posted on 2016-08-07 13:24:11 Reply Private Reply
#9: Justified To: buckeroo (#7)
Either one.
As for war? Well I have the neoclowns warring the world or I can have the neolibs warring America. Gee what a hard decision!
Justified posted on 2016-08-07 13:25:13 Reply Private Reply
#10: Titorite2 To: buckeroo (#0)
Titorite2 posted on 2016-08-07 13:26:29 Reply Private Reply
#11: buckeroo To: Titorite2 (#10)
Washington DC?
buckeroo posted on 2016-08-07 13:30:30 Reply Private Reply
#12: buckeroo To: Logsplitter (#2)
As an opinion, you have a good post.
buckeroo posted on 2016-08-07 13:33:12 Reply Private Reply
#13: Vicomte13 To: Justified (#1)
Vicomte13 posted on 2016-08-07 13:36:03 Reply Private Reply
#14: Pinguinite To: buckeroo (#0)
Here's a very serious set of allegations against H. It's a short watch.
Pinguinite posted on 2016-08-07 13:45:02 Reply Private Reply
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BorisY posted on 2016-08-07 14:09:21 Reply Private Reply
#16: Stoner To: Pinguinite (#14)
Stoner posted on 2016-08-07 15:12:46 Reply Private Reply
#17: rlk To: buckeroo (#0)
Extracted from RLK, The Analytic papers:
"If a woman with the intelligence and class of Margaret Thatcher were running for the American presidency today, she get my vote. Hillary is no Margaret Thatcher. She never will be. The necessary maturity, class, and integrity are just not there. To put it in language we can all understand, Hillary has the same amount of depth, finesse, dignity, and integrity one would expect to find in the female manager of a five dollar whorehouse. That marks her as acceptable among a large proportion of the population possessing similar characteristics."
rlk posted on 2016-08-07 16:36:29 Reply Private Reply
#18: rlk To: buckeroo (#0)
rlk posted on 2016-08-07 16:52:38 Reply Private Reply
#19: Jameson To: buckeroo (#0)
OR
Why are you NOT voting for Donald Trump?
1. He is an emotionally fragile drama queen.
2. He has no political experience
3. He is a narrow-minded bigot
4. He is a conspiracy theory believing kook
5. He is an extremely poor leader
6. He is dishonest and untrustworthy
7. He has dealt unfairly with his workers, his vendors, suppliers, and subcontractors as his primary means of "negotiation"
8. He is a weak and shallow man who disrespects women and mocks the disabled, elderly, and infirm.
9. He would be the worst president in history.
Jameson posted on 2016-08-08 07:57:08 Reply Private Reply
#20: Justified To: Jameson (#19)
Whatever you say about Trump Hillary is a 1000 times worse. So if you think Trump is bad Hillary should absolutely freakout out your unborn children!
Take a pick Hillary or Trump. I wish it weren't so but it is.
Like I have said the worst Trump is better than the best Hillary.
Justified posted on 2016-08-08 08:59:56 Reply Private Reply
#21: Jameson To: Justified (#20)
So, you agree with my points, but just think "Hillary is a 1000 times worse."
1. He is an emotionally fragile drama queen.
Mrs. Clinton seems quite stable emotionally, almost emotionless.
2. He has no political experience
Mrs. Clinton has a great deal of political experience
3. He is a narrow-minded bigot
Mrs. Clinton seems fairly open-minded and inclusive
4. He is a conspiracy theory believing kook
Mrs Clinton hasn't made many kooky claims... however she does promise to open the books on UFO's
5. He is an extremely poor leader
Mrs. Clinton is actually a very effective leader
6. He is dishonest and untrustworthy
Ok - this one is a push..........
7. He has dealt unfairly with his workers, his vendors, suppliers, and subcontractors as his primary means of "negotiation"
Mrs. Clinton's experience in business pales in comparison substantively, but could never really be considered as ruthlessly selfish as Mr. Trump.
8. He is a weak and shallow man who disrespects women and mocks the disabled, elderly, and infirm.
Mrs. Clinton exhibits none of these traits
9. He would be the worst president in history.
Based on the 7 points above, the ninth point is valid.
Jameson posted on 2016-08-08 09:39:04 Reply Private Reply
#22: A K A Stone To: Jameson (#21)
As she watches babies being murdered and you smile.
You're a sicko. I hope Trump puts you in a concentration camp.
A K A Stone posted on 2016-08-08 10:41:58 Reply Private Reply
#23: Fred Mertz To: A K A Stone (#22)
I missed that one. Is that on the Trump platform?
Fred Mertz posted on 2016-08-08 10:50:55 Reply Private Reply
#24: Jameson To: A K A Stone (#22)
LOL!
Funny!!
So, anyway, please refute the opinions expressed regarding Mr. Trump !!
Or perhaps we should add #10. Mr Trump is perceived to be a "would-be" fascist dictator......at least according to you.....
Jameson posted on 2016-08-08 11:17:05 Reply Private Reply
#25: Pinguinite To: Jameson (#19)
No, I don't see that at all.
That's a plus, not a minus.
I disagree.
That the Clintons have corrupt influence over the gov? It's apparently true.
No, as a real estate mogul, he has plenty of leadership experience.
I've seen no evidence of this.
Possibly with business contacts he's been harsh and as aggressive as the law allows, but the consensus seems to be that among those who've worked with him, he's very fair. He's also been generous in charitable causes for people who've needed help.
No, don't see that either. The media attempts to cast him that way, but I think the reality is that he deals with these groups without regard to their status, which comes off as disrespecting the group they are in, instead of what they have specifically done.
No, not at all.
His biggest negative is he is very proud / arrogant. He thinks he can do everything, and I think he'll discover how limited he is once he gets elected. He's also an authoritarian, and doesn't seem to have much sympathy for people wanting to exercise their civil rights. As a lifelong millionaire, he doesn't have experience with having to live helplessly under rules or regs that are unfair or unjust.
On the plus side, he's not corrupt in the way the Clinton's are openly so. He's not running for prez for his own benefit, unlike Hillary who craves the power of the One Ring that Rules them All,and who said she deserved to be president. Trump has a sound concern and respect for the country (though again with differing ideas from me about what's best) and has potential to clean out corruption inside of DC which is enormous.
He won't do everything I like. He'll do things I don't like. But he's the man for the job. Hillary will suck wealth out of the US for her own personal benefit.
Pinguinite posted on 2016-08-08 12:00:02 Reply Private Reply
#26: Jameson To: Pinguinite (#25)
1. He is an emotionally fragile drama queen. - No, I don't see that at all. OK, you are ignoring the obvious - IMHO
2. He has no political experience - That's a plus, not a minus.
Not for the most powerful leader in the world. It is a frightening scenario indeed. This arrogant man, having the launch codes at his disposal? NO! Even Ted Cruz would be less of a threat to the continued existence of the world.
3. He is a narrow-minded bigot - I disagree.
Convince me please cite some examples of his open-minded inclusiveness. - And eating Taco Bell doesnt count!
4. He is a conspiracy theory believing kook - That the Clintons have corrupt influence over the gov? It's apparently true.
No, hes a Birther, and anti-vaxer, and he believes that Cruzs father was involved with the Kennedy assassination. He also references stories from The National Enquirer as being reputable and as recently as last week, stated publicly that the election will be rigged. I believe hes a whack-job.
5. He is an extremely poor leader - No, as a real estate mogul, he has plenty of leadership experience.
Longevity does not make one a good leader. His leadership style is that of a bully. Taking advantage of whomever he can, because he can. NOT good leadership.
6. He is dishonest and untrustworthy - I've seen no evidence of this. Look into the operations of, bankruptcy, and soon-to-be closing of the Trump Taj Mahal in AC.
7. He has dealt unfairly with his workers, his vendors, suppliers, and subcontractors as his primary means of "negotiation - Possibly with business contacts he's been harsh and as aggressive as the law allows, but the consensus seems to be that among those who've worked with him, he's very fair. He's also been generous in charitable causes for people who've needed help.
See # 5 above as an example -
8. He is a weak and shallow man who disrespects women and mocks the disabled, elderly, and infirm. - No, don't see that either. The media attempts to cast him that way, but I think the reality is that he deals with these groups without regard to their status, which comes off as disrespecting the group they are in, instead of what they have specifically done.
You can choose to see him any way you wish, his weakness and insecurity is obvious to me, and millions of others.
9. He would be the worst president in history.
No, not at all.
On the plus side, he's not corrupt in the way the Clinton's are openly so. He's not running for prez for his own benefit, unlike Hillary who craves the power of the One Ring that Rules them All,and who said she deserved to be president. Trump has a sound concern and respect for the country (though again with differing ideas from me about what's best) and has potential to clean out corruption inside of DC which is enormous.
I think this is the area in which we really disagree. The Donald Trump I see has no concern or respect for anyone or anything beyond his own interests. He doesnt even have any sincere respect or loyalty to his own party! He will bully his way to personal gain at the expense of anyone who offers any resistance. I remain unconvinced that he would clean out corruption in fact I believe that if he were to be elected the level of corruption in Washington would rise to the Mugabe level by this time next year.
Jameson posted on 2016-08-08 12:59:14 Reply Private Reply
#27: Pinguinite To: Jameson (#26)
Political experience has nothing to do with possessing power to launch nukes. Unless you can find a historic case of a politician launching nukes correctly and justly.
Taking advantage of people has nothing to do with leadership, either positively or negatively.
Dealing with bankruptcy has nothing to do with honesty.
There is plenty of room for emotionally charged characterizations against Trump. A lot of people don't just disfavor him, but outright hate him. For them, and perhaps you, seeing Trump in an unfavorable light is "obvious". Your responses to me are not particularly impressive in substantiating anything objectively negative about Trump.
No, Trump is not perfect, and again I'll concede he does have negative points I don't like. But just because someone doesn't like his personality or manners does NOT mean he's not the best fit for president. He's not running for pope, after all. And Hillary's negatives are far, far worse.
Pinguinite posted on 2016-08-08 13:48:05 Reply Private Reply
#28: Justified To: Jameson (#21)
OMG where have you been for the last 20 years? Hello Hillary is the most unstable person on the planet. Cross her and she will have you killed. Thats not a joke thats reality in Hillary's world.
2. He has no political experience Mrs. Clinton has a great deal of political experience
Are you trying to be a smart ass??????????????
If Hillary is ok for you on any level you need to seek help. Anyone that thinks Hillary is ok for US has some major mental issues that need to be dealt with, asap!
Justified posted on 2016-08-08 13:50:31 Reply Private Reply
#29: Pinguinite To: Justified (#28)
I can't help but agree. It's beyond my comprehension how anyone not directly in the Clinton circle of corruption would vote for H over Trump. Surely no one more openly corrupt than Clinton has ever run for US president.
And yes, Hillary is very egotistical and self serving. She thinks she deserves to be president, and NO ONE fits that bill. The threat of a nuclear war is far higher with her than Trump or any other president since the Cuban missile crisis.
Pinguinite posted on 2016-08-08 14:05:15 Reply Private Reply
#30: Jameson To: Justified (#28)
Oh, I see... you're a "clinton body count" believer......now I understand. and it is actually a joke, on you.
Mrs. Clinton has a great deal of political experience - Are you trying to be a smart ass?
No, Mrs. Clinton was the first lady, and very involved in government for 8 years during Bill's presidency, she was elected to the senate, and was secretary of state. How is my statement wrong?
Jameson posted on 2016-08-08 14:07:19 Reply Private Reply
#31: Jameson To: Pinguinite (#27)
That's ok, I am simply responding to a post asking why I would (or would not) vote for the donald.
My responses are my opinions. I see trump as the worst possible choice as president. I do not hate him. and I will not vote for him.
Jameson posted on 2016-08-08 14:13:37 Reply Private Reply
#32: Jameson To: Pinguinite (#29)
I'm really not planning to vote for Mrs. Clinton, and I am not a Clinton supporter.
It shouldn't be necessary. I think Trump will lose my state without my vote.
Are you suggesting that there are ~ 65 million members of the Clinton Circle-o-Corruption?????? (The CCoC)
Jameson posted on 2016-08-08 14:21:43 Reply Private Reply
#33: Justified To: Jameson (#30)
You can't deny that many people dying after crossing her as just a statistical anomaly.
No, Mrs. Clinton was the first lady, and very involved in government for 8 years during Bill's presidency, she was elected to the senate, and was secretary of state. How is my statement wrong?
Are you just stupid or corrupt?
Her political experience has been dealing with bimbo gate! I can hear her laughing at the rape victims now while claiming to be a champing of women's rights!
Her political experience has been scaring everyone in ear shot of her when she has a fit. Ask bubba about his black eyes! Ask the SS how they are not allowed to be in her eye sight. Ask about how much she hates to see military uniforms in the white house!
Her political experience is having her email server in her house in a bathroom. The same server that has been hacked so much that no one can tell who has hacked it.
Her political experience is getting people murdered because of her incompetence ie Benghazi.
But hey she sure knows how to duck a snipers bullet!!
But she sure knows how to sell US secrets!
Justified posted on 2016-08-08 14:22:04 Reply Private Reply
#34: Jameson To: Justified (#33)
"statistical anomaly"
I suggest nothing of the sort. I do suggest that there are people who are emotionally driven and intellectually weak enough to feel that "THEY" are in the know, that "THEY" possess the truth despite there being no actual scientific evidence. These people are easily led and are easy to influence.
And based on your listing of the "limbaugh talking points" I'd say that might describe you.
Jameson posted on 2016-08-08 14:31:17 Reply Private Reply
#35: Justified To: Jameson (#34)
You believe fair tales and I will believe reality.
And based on your listing of the "limbaugh talking points" I'd say that might describe you.
For one I am not ashamed of listening to Rush from time to time. I actually work too much to get time to listen to rush very often. He is slowly coming my way into the conservative/libertarian side. He like many conservatives finally realize what the GOP has been doing and see's if the GOP elites are not defeated there will never be a right of center candidate to hold the presidency or any real power in government ever again.
Justified posted on 2016-08-08 21:15:05 Reply Private Reply
#36: buckeroo To: Jameson (#19)
buckeroo posted on 2016-08-08 21:21:18 Reply Private Reply
#37: Deckard To: Jameson, Justified, A K A Stone (#21)
Deckard posted on 2016-08-08 21:47:48 Reply Private Reply
#38: jeremiad To: hondo68 (#3)
jeremiad posted on 2016-08-08 23:26:05 Reply Private Reply
#39: Hondo68 To: jeremiad, GHW Bush 80, 84, 88, 92 (#38)
How many times did the Trumps get this Bush, on the ballot?
Hondo68 posted on 2016-08-09 00:14:07 Reply Private Reply
#40: Justified To: hondo68, jeremiad (#39)
Everyone talks about "not Trump" how about "NOT CLINTON". Trump may be a crap-shoot but I know the devil in Hillary. She can not be elected. If she is our children will curse us for the what we have done.
Justified posted on 2016-08-09 07:27:46 Reply Private Reply
#41: Jameson To: buckeroo (#36)
No I didn't.
Fill me in....
Jameson posted on 2016-08-09 07:36:42 Reply Private Reply
#42: Jameson To: Deckard (#37)
Do you believe that the main-stream media has a pronounced political bias?
Just wondering.....
Jameson posted on 2016-08-09 07:40:23 Reply Private Reply
#43: A K A Stone To: Jameson (#24)
A K A Stone posted on 2016-08-10 00:39:22 Reply Private Reply
#44: HomerBohn To: buckeroo (#0)
On the other hand we have Hillary and Billy Goat Clinton; two of the most corrupted and evil political hounds since Obama. They'll pick up the torch and finish the race to destruction.
HomerBohn posted on 2016-08-27 10:39:23 Reply Private Reply
#45: buckeroo To: HomerBohn (#44)
He is quickly learning to "shapeshift" as any professional politician ever has; moreover, he has an ego larger than the territorial boundaries of the USA as as a reesult OWES himself the "attaboy."
Doing all this by himself? Patriotic? Please explain.
You can't speak for him.
Yawn.
buckeroo posted on 2016-08-27 11:48:55 Reply Private Reply
#46: HomerBohn To: buckeroo (#45)
HomerBohn posted on 2016-08-28 09:33:34 Reply Private Reply
#47: buckeroo To: HomerBohn (#46)
buckeroo posted on 2016-08-28 10:03:15 Reply Private Reply
#48: Gatlin To: buckeroo (#47)
Because you truly are a fuckin' idiot ...
Gatlin posted on 2016-08-28 10:14:41 Reply Private Reply
#49: buckeroo To: Gatlin (#48)
buckeroo posted on 2016-08-28 10:19:23 Reply Private Reply
#50: HomerBohn To: buckeroo (#47)
Because you're left of center?
HomerBohn posted on 2016-08-28 10:25:11 Reply Private Reply