A crumb on the floor of your car can make you a felon, even if it's just a crumb.

ProPublica reporters Ryan Gabrielson and Topher Sanders estimate that widely used but notoriously unreliable field tests for drugs have led to "tens of thousands" of wrongful convictions in the United States. The tests are not admissible in court, but that does not matter much, since the vast majority of drug cases90 percent or moreare resolved by plea deals. Gabrielson and Sanders' story, which was published in The New York Times Magazine over the weekend, illustrates that point with the case of a Louisiana woman, Amy Albritton, whose employment prospects were ruined by a felony conviction after Houston police pulled over her car in 2010 and found a white crumb they mistakenly identified as crack cocaine.
The test that was used to incriminate Albritton involves dropping a suspected drug sample into a vial of cobalt thiocyanate, which is supposed to turn blue in the presence of cocaine. But as Gabrielson and Sanders note, "cobalt thiocyanate also turns blue when it is exposed to more than 80 other compounds, including methadone, certain acne medications and several common household cleaners." That is not the only cause of false positives:
Other tests use three tubes, which the officer can break in a specific order to rule out everything but the drug in questionbut if the officer breaks the tubes in the wrong order, that, too, can invalidate the results. The environment can also present problems. Cold weather slows the color development; heat speeds it up, or sometimes prevents a color reaction from taking place at all. Poor lighting on the streetflashing police lights, sun glare, street lampsoften prevents officers from making the fine distinctions that could make the difference between an arrest and a release.
It is hard to say exactly how common false positives are, although a Las Vegas study found that one out of three samples identified as cocaine was in fact something else. In Florida, Gabrielson and Sanders write, "21 percent of evidence that the police listed as methamphetamine after identifying it was not methamphetamine, and half of those false positives were not any kind of illegal drug at all."
Since field tests are widely used and police arrest more than 1 million people for drug possession every year, even a relatively low error rate could lead to thousands of erroneous arrests each year. In their analysis of drug cases in Harris County, Texas (where Albritton was arrested), Gabrielson and Sanders found that 212 people were convicted of possessing a substance that a field test mistakenly identified as an illegal drug between January 2004 and June 2015. "If Albritton's case is one of hundreds in Houston," they write, "there is every reason to suspect that it is just one among thousands of wrongful drug convictions that were based on field tests across the United States."
Despite the dubious nature of the evidence against her, Albritton ended up taking a plea deal that involved a 45-day jail sentence after she was told that she otherwise could spend up to two years behind bars. She ultimately spent just three weeks in jail, but that was the least of her punishment.
She lost her job as the manager of an apartment complex in Monroe, Louisiana, and her new status as a felon made it impossible to find steady work that paid nearly as well, which in turn made it difficult to care for a son with cerebral palsy. Her whole life was upended by a crumb on the floor of her car that a lab test later found was not any sort of illegal drug. Albritton had no idea she had been exonerated until Gabrielson and Sanders tracked her down and got in touch with her.
In addition to the unreliability of field tests, Albritton's case illustrates the power that cops have thanks to excessive judicial faith in drug-sniffing dogs. Police supposedly stopped her car, which her boyfriend was driving, because he had failed to signal a lane change. It turned out the boyfriend did not have a driver's license, but the registration showed Albritton was the car's owner, making her presumptively responsible for any drugs police might find in it.
At this point the cops had no justification for searching the car, as became clear when they asked her permission. Albritton consented to the search partly because she knew she was not carrying any drugs but also because one of the officers said that otherwise he would bring in a police dog. The implication was clear: Either he would search the car based on her "consent," or he would search it based on the dog's purported "alert," which like the field test might or might not actually indicate the presence of contraband.
One point that Gabrielson and Sanders do not make in their otherwise excellent exposé: It would be utterly absurd and unjust to lock Albritton up and ruin her life even if the speck of material on the floor of her car (which weighed in at less than two-hundredths of a gram) had contained cocaine. But whether or not they have anything to do with illegal drugs, Americans should be alarmed by the the fact that police have the power to stop your car at will, search it at will (assuming they have a dog or use the threat of one to obtain your consent), incriminate you with a test so unreliable that its results cannot be used in court, and railroad you into a felony conviction.
#1: Pinguinite To: Deckard (#0)
Pinguinite posted on 2016-07-11 10:56:04 Reply Private Reply
#2: nolu chan To: Deckard (#0)
Presumptive tests are used to establish probable cause. Nobody has ever been convicted solely as a result of a presumptive drug test. Lots of people have been convicted as a result of a guilty plea. There is no need for the confirmatory test when the defendant pleads guilty, admits the possession, and chooses not to rebut the presumptive test result.
nolu chan posted on 2016-07-11 15:55:28 Reply Private Reply
#3: Pinguinite To: nolu chan (#2)
True in legal terms, but apparently not true in practice, as the full write up illustrates.
The law and/or legal system in place apparently does not do justice when people are persuaded to plead guilty when they are, in fact, innocent.
Pinguinite posted on 2016-07-11 18:06:31 Reply Private Reply
#4: GrandIsland To: nolu chan (#2)
That's absoloutly correct... felony convictions are based on certified crime lab tests for ID and weight... unless some criminal addicted pile of shit pleas to a smoking great deal before the lab results come in BECAUSE THE DEFENDANT KNOWS WHAT THE EVIDENCE WILL COMEBACK AS.
Either way, any idiots attorney who loses a felony trial by peer based on just a field test alone, is a moron and should not reproduce.
GrandIsland posted on 2016-07-11 19:42:42 Reply Private Reply
#5: TrappedInMd To: Deckard (#0)
The bottom line is she pleaded guilty, now after the fact is claiming innocence.
Too late for that.
TrappedInMd posted on 2016-07-12 08:23:03 Reply Private Reply
#6: Deckard To: TrappedInMd (#5)
She was coerced into pleading guilty - in fact, she was and is innocent.
Deckard posted on 2016-07-12 08:34:39 Reply Private Reply
#7: nolu chan To: Pinguinite, GrandIsland (#3)
The thread "article" is a rehash of the original article which appeared in the New York Times Magazine.
The original title "Drug Test Sends Innocent People to Jail" is changed to the more sensational and less true supermarket tabloid styling, "'Tens of Thousands' Wrongly Convicted Based on Unreliable Drug Tests."
Neither article mentions the appellate court Opinion handed down on June 22, 2016.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/10/magazine/how-a-2-roadside-drug-test-sends-innocent-people-to-jail.html
The presumptive test must be confirmed unless the accused does not rebut it, as when he/she chooses to plead guilty.
Few totally innocent people choose to plead guilty to a felony. A felony carries more than a year in prison. The article fails to mention the syringe that was booked into evidence but later found to have insufficient residue for testing.
Incident Report:
Typically, the plea agreement is not a barter over guilt or innocence, but involves a less than maximum possible sentence in return for eliminating the need for a trial.
She could have declined the search, but did not because she knew or suspected that the drug dog would alert on her car. That is the actual implication, not that a phony dog alert would be arranged.
It is quite a leap to conclude the cops had no justification for searching the car. The driver had no license. The owner had permitted an unlicensed driver [Anthony Wilson, 11/17/1981, 808 Otis, Monroe, LA] to operate the vehicle. They had sufficient cause to arrest the owner/operator and impound the vehicle. And Officer Nguyen had observed a partially hidden used syringe. And there was the positive presumptive drug test.
Albritton and Wilson were arrested on 8/3/2010. Albritton was booked on 8/4/2010 at 3:37:00 AM. She pleaded guilty on 08/05/2010.
If she were innocent, her best advice would be to not waive any of her rights, to say nothing beyond that she wants a lawyer, but definitely to say she wants a lawyer. To invoke the Miranda right to counsel, one must make a statement and say so. Remaining silent does not get it done.
Albritton did not even wait for the test results. She chose to plead guilty at the first opportunity upon meeting the judge to be charged, less than 48 hours after being arrested.
State of Texas v. Amy Albritton, Cause# 127297601010
Amy Albritton appealed.
http://law.justia.com/cases/texas/court-of-criminal-appeals/2016/wr-85-184-01.html
nolu chan posted on 2016-07-12 14:32:43 Reply Private Reply
#8: Pinguinite To: TrappedInMd (#5)
She has always claimed innocence since the arrest, and never stopped. She agreed to the plea out of expediency and ignorance of the legal system, as well as ignorance of the full consequences that pleading guilty to a felony goes well beyond the time in jail in the form of a felony conviction.
Blaming her for taking the plea is like me blaming you for throwing away your washing machine because you weren't smart enough to know that some internal $5 pump just needed to be replaced.
Common people are simply not smart enough to know how the legal system works. Getting falsely arrested, in this case in a foreign state hundreds of miles from home is absolutely NOT something common people are equipped to handle. It's a completely unexpected interruption of life, emotionally on par with getting kidnapped (as that's really what it amounts to) by a couple of big guys who work out in the gym, as many cops generally do. And regardless of how professional those cops actually are, innocent arrestees know that the all the cops involved believe they are guilty of a crime.
People in that situation are always pressured to compromise in any needed way to be released, regardless of whether they believe they are guilty or innocent. In fact, innocent people are probably more likely to compromise and take a plea than guilty people are because good, innocent, law-abiding people tend to trust the system, and trust the court appointed lawyer who has every motivation to resolve the charge in the most expedient means possible, which means a plea deal.
Every time an innocent person does a plea deal, though some legal blame can *technically* be ascribed to the defendant, it's a failure of the legal system first and foremost.
Pinguinite posted on 2016-07-12 16:48:24 Reply Private Reply
#9: Pinguinite To: nolu chan (#7)
I strongly disagree for the reason given in my prior post.
The prosecutor can offer the defendant a request to the court for leniency in the form of a partially suspended sentence, in return for a guilty plea.
Actually the article does indeed mention that.
In the mind of the defendant, I think it's more genuine to say that it's a barter of more guilt vs less guilt, if guilt is being measured by the expected jail term.
I disagree with the first statement. I mean, sure it could be true, but law abiding people generally don't refuse any request by police in part because they know they are innocent and want to cooperate to get the best treatment, and also because they trust the police. And we are all taught growing up that when you are polite to others, others are polite to you, and that police officers should be respected, and refusing any request is disrespectful.
And some cops -- I'm sure not all -- get angry when people refuse to surrender rights.
I'm not so sure about the search justification. If they had justification to search, then they had no reason to ask the woman for permission to search it. Though I suppose they would ask for permission just to prevent her from later claiming the search was illegal.
The offense of driving without a license is administrative in nature and presents no direct implication of drugs being in the car. Searching the car would in no reasonable way offer the police more evidence of that offense, so why search?
For the offense of driving without a license and allowing an unlicensed driver to drive, whether it's arrestable depends on jurisdiction, and the same for seizing the car. I do not believe either of those are generally arrestable, though I'll defer to someone who's honest and knowledgable of exact laws. But I'm pretty confident, at the very least, that allowing someone without a license to drive a car is merely a citable offense and not an arrestable offense. Ditto for seizing the car. If the car is in traffic, it can be towed, but otherwise, again, neither of those offense should result in the car being seized. In the present case, they surely seized it because of the supposed drugs, not the license offense.
Though that test is, today, understood to be unreliable. If police know a test is unreliable and arrest anyway, then certainly they can be sued.
Agreed. But remaining silent is not an isuse here, and she did, in fact, get a lawyer. A court appointed one that didn't give a crap about her. And that goes back to my earlier points about how innocent people fare worse in the legal system than do experienced lawbreakers.
She probably had no idea that the field test was inadmissable in court, and certainly figured that if she went to trial she'd be found guilty.
We cannot forget that among the inexperienced, there is a presumption that if you are charged with a crime, you are guilty. Not innocent until proven guilty, Just plain guilty. Albritton merely made decisions that day that she saw as making the best of a bad situation. Now she knows better, but only after suffering all the resulting hardship that she got.
Pinguinite posted on 2016-07-12 17:19:47 Reply Private Reply
#10: nolu chan To: Pinguinite (#9)
Cite any case where this has been successfully done, on the stated basis that the test is unreliable.
A presumptive test is not meant to provide proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
This is based on what? For the initial appearance, the only thing anyone wants to know is how does she plead. At that point, nobody wants to hear why she believes she is innocent. If the prosecutor offers a plea agreement, the attorney must inform the client. The client can accept or reject. The attorney must accept the decision of the client. She pleaded guilty in under 48 hours. The attorney saw her, explained her options, and she took the deal. I do not see enough information to determine whether he gave a crap or not.
nolu chan posted on 2016-07-12 18:01:51 Reply Private Reply
#11: Pinguinite To: nolu chan (#10)
A lawyer is an advocate. It's someone who is knowledgeable about the laws and the legal system who will go to bat for the accused. It's someone who applies his skills in the most advantageous way for the accused. So yes, there IS one person who should have wanted to hear why she believed she was innocent, and that person is supposed to be this lawyer. Why? Obviously because if she has a very strong reason for believing her innocence, than it would play a role in the decision whether to plead guilty or not guilty.
If all a court appointed lawyer is supposed to do is act as a communication liason between the defendant and the prosecutor, then the courts could save a lot of money by instead appointing court approved email accounts through which they can communicate with the prosecutor directly.
If she was not informed that pleading guilty would mean a felony conviction following her the rest of her life impacting her ability to get a job and have a reasonable career -- and it seems she did not -- then the lawyer failed to do his job.
Pinguinite posted on 2016-07-13 17:52:22 Reply Private Reply
#12: nolu chan To: Pinguinite (#11)
The defendant's profession of innocence plays no role in explaining the legal alternatives and explaining an offered plea bargain. In this case, he should have explained that she could take 45 days or plead not guilty and possibly do several years, depending on the confirmatory drug test. Her professions that the drugs belonged to the boyfriend speak to her expectation that the presumptive drug test would be confirmed. It was her car. She got arrested because the evidence was found in her car. If the evidence were to be confirmed, she could/would be convicted.
If she pleaded not guilty and waited for the confirmatory drug test result, there is no guarantee the 45-day offer would still be there. It does not matter whether the presumptive drugs were hers or not, unless the boyfriend wants to claim them. There is a rebuttable presumption that the stuff in her car is hers. She never heard from the 30-day boyfriend again, so I doubt he was in a volunteering mood.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/10/magazine/how-a-2-roadside-drug-test-sends-innocent-people-to-jail.html
From the "Gabrielson and Sanders' story, which was published in The New York Times Magazine."
Her choice was to take 45-days or take a chance on several years, in the belief that the evidence was actually drugs. She jumped at the chance for 45-days.
The judge should also have explained her alternatives and had her confirm, on the record, that she understood.
Assume she pleaded not guilty. She was from Louisiana and was out of state in Texas. Would she make bail and would she be allowed to leave the state pending trial? What was the probability that the evidence would be confirmed?
The attorney does more than act as glorified e-mail. He must explain the legal situation and available alternatives. If an offer is tendered, he has a duty to present it to the client. He can explain what he sees as good or bad, but the client must decide. The attorney should present the legal reality and the actual alternatives.
If the confirmatory test came back positive, was her defence viable that she did not know the drugs were in her car, and that the boyfriend must have put them there without her knowledge? Would you have advised her to plead not guilty based on that defence? What other defence would have existed?
Assume you believe her claim that she knew nothing about the alleged drugs. She is totally innocent regarding the alleged drugs except that they were found in her car. How do you know her boyfriend of a month did not put the alleged drugs in the car? Would you wager two years of your life betting that the sample will come back negative? That is what had to be explained to Ms. Amy and then it was her choice to make. It was not a question of whether she was innocent, but whether she found the probability of gaining an acquittal was worth turning down the offer of a 45-day sentence.
The decision had to be made then, not four years later after the test came back negative. Even if she had never used or possessed illegal drugs in her life, she had no way to know that the samples would test negative. How the heck does it seem like her decision was not informed? She had to know, and certify that she knew, it was a felony that she was pleading guilty to.
The attorney tells her what she is pleading to. The plea agreement is specific that it is a felony. If it carries a potential sentence of more than one year, it is a felony. The judge ensures she knows she is pleading guilty to a felony.
The Information stated that Amy Albritton "did then and there unlawfully, intentionally and knowingly possess a controlled substance, namely, COCAINE, weighing less than one gram by aggregate weight, including any adulterants and dilutants." Ms. Amy signed a document that stated she was pleading guilty to "the above felony information."
The "Judgment of Conviction by CourtWaiver of Jury Trial" lists the degree of offense as "STATE JAIL FELONY-sec 12.44(a) PC." This document also contains the following: "APPEAL WAIVED. NO PERMISSION TO APPEAL GRANTED."The Attorney Fees Expense Claim indicates a total claim of $125 for one day, with no out-of-court hours. The only attorney date billed was for Thursday, 5 August 2010, the date of the court appearance.
Your insinuation that she did not understand she was pleading guilty to a felony is without merit. She had to know it, she had to allocute to it in court, and she had to document it in writing with her signature.
It seems evident that she knew there would be consequences, starting with pleading guilty to a drug felony and getting sentenced to jail time.
nolu chan posted on 2016-07-14 16:28:13 Reply Private Reply
#13: Pinguinite To: nolu chan (#12)
But first...:
I challenge you to go ask some random people in your town what they understand about the total penalties of a felony conviction, even if they plead guilty to it instead of fighting it and having a judge or jury convict. Do that and tell me how many of those people already know that, beyond jail time, it means it will be on their record for life adversely impacting their ability to keep or grow a career.
I'll bet the number that do will be an extreme minority, and that punishment certainly exceeds that of a 45 day jail sentence. Did anyone explain THAT part of the felony conviction to this woman?
But dude.... step back a moment and consider that a woman's life was ... perhaps decimated is too strong a word in all honesty, but she lost a good job and home, and had her middle class life reduced to something close to poverty. All in spite of the fact that she was innocent. Ergo, the legal system FAILED. It FAILED. With a capital F. Okay. It didn't work.
Now, by way of analogy, I'm in the software development field. If I write a program for a client and send it to him, and he calls me back and says it doesn't work, then it doesn't work. He will not be interested in my convoluted explanation about how it really does work. If it doesn't help him, then it doesn't work. Period. And I have to come up with a solution so it does work for him.
Any time an innocent person is convicted of a crime it is a FAILURE of the legal system. Period. End of story. Okay? The purpose of the legal system is to convict those who are guilty and exhonorate those who are accused but really innocent. For those times it doesn't do that, it's a FAILURE of the legal system to serve the public good.
Your convoluted defense of the legal system does not change the fact that an innocent woman had her life ruined by that same legal system. The proof is in the pudding.
As for what I would have advised her, go to discovery and force the lab to do the test. Or if they can't do it in 180 days move to dismiss for denial of right to a speedy trial. Once they get the results, if they are negative, she's free. If not, then she has a clean record and can obtain leniency from the court for a first time offense, likely given the tiny amount of suspected cocaine. It is very unlikely she'd not get leniency and a reduced / suspended sentence given there's no evidence she was selling cocaine. Hell, she might have ended up with the same prison sentence, worst case, or time served if they didn't let her out on bail until trial.
Pinguinite posted on 2016-07-15 00:54:53 Reply Private Reply
#14: nolu chan To: Pinguinite (#13)
It appears you are living in a dream world. I don't know anyone who does not know that pleading guilty to a cocaine drug felony has consequences.
With the problem remaining that you did not say the legal system failed, you said the defense counsel didn't do his job.
No, I defended the defense counsel from a baseless charge. I made no defense of the legal system. I did offer some of the realities of it.
If you are going to dream, dream big.
It was Texas.
https://www.smu.edu/StudentAffairs/HealthCenter/Counseling/DrugFreeCampus/TXStateLawPenalties#details
She was charged with a state jail felony. A trial conviction carries a 180-day minimum.
https://www.versustexas.com/criminal/realities-speedy-trial/
At the link is a list of 14 Texas cases that denied claims of speedy trial violations for delays from 13 months to 8 years. It lists 5 Texas cases that upheld claims of speedy trial violations for delays from 2 years 3 months to 6 years. If you just want to set a Texas record, you should shoot for 2 years.
The only remedy for a finding of a violation of the right to a speedy trial is a dismissal of the charges. Unless it is a state with a statute that specifies a shorter time (definitely not Texas), you should wait about eight months to a year before they will take your speedy trial motion seriously.
Inform your client what the law in Texas actually says, not what you think it ought to say. You may be 100% correct that the law should say something else. Feel free to tell your client that you disagree with the law as it is. Then tell her what she actually needs to know, and what you are required to tell her.
Turning down the 45-day offer is great if she has a firm belief that the test will come back negative. Her statements made clear that she held no such belief. Her immediate reaction was to point at the boyfriend.
Waiting for a test result that the client believes will be positive, and planning to ask the judge to waive the 180-day minimum required by law is not much of a plan. If the test came back positive, visit her often and give her pep talks.
The situation was explained to Albritton and she chose to take the 45-day jail sentence and waive any appeal. She got buyer's remorse after the test results came back.
As long as her attorney explained it to her and gave her a fair assessment under the actual laws of Texas, there is no reason to say he did not do his job. He has to work within the system he and his client are stuck with.
nolu chan posted on 2016-07-15 03:06:58 Reply Private Reply
#15: Pinguinite To: nolu chan (#14)
Ergo. The system FAILED. Period. End of Story.
Pinguinite posted on 2016-07-15 03:49:40 Reply Private Reply
#16: nolu chan To: Pinguinite (#15)
When the facts are against you, pound on the law. When the law is against you pound on the facts. When both the facts and the law are against you, pound on the lectern.
Harummph, that's all there is to be said, I don't want to talk about it anymore.
A woman voluntarily entered into a plea agreement to avoid the very real probability of a very worse result had she proceeded to trial.
You tried to blame an imaginary system failure on the defense counsel and that effort fell flat as the defense counsel has very little authority in the matter. Indeed, your fallback position is to not identify any failure in the system but to claim the woman was innocent and conclude the system failed. You fail to see that the system worked exactly as it has been designed and is intended to work. That may explain your frustration in attempting to identify the person responsible for the alleged failure. I did not just endorse the system, but I will not say it failed when it worked as designed. It is designed to impel the vast majority of defendants to waive trial and plead guilty.
Moreover, as you cannot identify the failure, you cannot offer any rational proposal for a solution. Ninety-seven percent of federal convictions and ninety-four percent of state convictions are the result of guilty pleas. Try doing away with the plea system and you will need to multiply by many times the number of judges and court facilities. Disposition of charges after plea discussions is not only an essential part of the process, but a highly desirable part for many reasons, not least being that it leads to prompt and largely final disposition of most criminal cases.
Severe minimum sentences serve the deliberate, recognized purpose to encourage plea agreements rather than risk a trial one may lose. That an innocent person may be induced to plead guilty is a recognized factor, rather like collateral damage. You may now deal with the fact that the system did not fail, it worked.
The U.S. Supreme Court found in Bordenkircher v. Hayes, 434 U.S. 357 (1978):
See also United States v. Ruiz, 536 U.S. 622 (2002):
Re increased sentencing for those who avail themselves of their right to trial and lose, see United States v. Rodriguez, 162 F.3d 135 (1st Cir. 1998)
Severe sentences after trial are the norm. This is a serious impetus for defendants to accept plea agreements and sign away constitutional and appeal rights.
Arnold Enker, Perspectives on Plea Bargaining, within Task Force Report: The Courts, Task Force on Admnistration of Justice, The President's Commission on Law Enforcement and Administration of Justice (1971)
And what of Albritton's waiver of her right to appeal?
The Federal Rules bless this type of waiver.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcrmp/rule_11
Texas bakes in into plea agreements.
http://www.texasappellateprocedurerules.com/section2.html
In Albritton's case, she must get permission from the trial court in order to file an appeal.
nolu chan posted on 2016-07-26 15:50:23 Reply Private Reply
#17: goldilucky To: nolu chan (#16)
How I remember this so well.
In Albritton's case, she must get permission from the trial court in order to file an appeal.
In the federal courts only Final Orders are appealable. In cases where such a case is tried in "piece-meal", what usually happens is some parties are dismissed in the case leaving others still at issue. When the injured party tries to appeal from a matter that is not final, the appellate courts will tell them they have no jurisdiction to hear the appeal as the Notice of Appeal from the party appealing from the district court decision was an interlocutary order or judgment and is not appealable.
goldilucky posted on 2016-07-26 17:00:50 Reply Private Reply
#18: Pinguinite To: nolu chan (#16)
I'll pound on this fact and this fact is very clear.
You can pour out all kinds of arguments about how it wasn't the system's fault. But it won't change the fact that the system failed to dispense justice in this case. I can understand that such a bitter pill is hard for you to swallow as you seem to regard the legal system with something akin to religious piety. But the cold shower lesson is this: The system failed this woman. Period.
Pinguinite posted on 2016-07-27 03:23:16 Reply Private Reply
#19: nolu chan To: Pinguinite, goldilucky (#18)
You would probably be able to respond more intelligently if you read what you are responding to. As I said,
It is your profound lack of knowledge of the system, and your ostrich-like living in denial, that leads you to make damfool claims that you would have advised Albritton to go to trial, and if convicted, you would expect the judge to go easy on her and just let her go. It even led you to falsely claim that the defense attorney must have failed to do his job, but when confronted, you could not support your baseless contention and now engage in your inane and spurious change of subject further demonstrating only that you do not understand how the system is designed to work, and how it does work.
You seem to forget that Albritton pleaded guilty.
Your misbegotten attempt to blame the defense counsel only indicated that you did not understand the system. Your ridiculous claim of a system failure reveals that you have no read and learned.
Only a deaf person has not heard prosecutors cal for a level playing field. Now they have more than a level playing fieldfor defendant and defense counsel it is an uphill slog with advantage to the prosecution.
I did not pull statistics out of my ass. I pulled them out of the opinion of the U.S. Supreme Court in Missouri v. Frye, No. 10-444 (21 Mar 2012), 566 U.S. ___ (2012), slip op at 7.
Ibid.
95% of convictions result from a guilty plea. If that fell to just 90%, you would have to double the courts, judges, juries, lawyers, and others.
Quite obviously, there is a significant government interest in keeping 95% of convictions resulting from guilty pleas. Such statistics can only be maintained by the demonstrated probability of far more severe outcomes resulting from trial convictions.
There are about 2 million people incarcerated. If 5% resulted from trial conviction, that would be 100,000 processed via trial to conviction. Without guilty pleas, there would be a backlog of 1,900,000. Inducement to plead guilty leads to a system that works like a cattle call.
https://www.propublica.org/article/common-roadside-drug-test-routinely-produces-false-positives
Ms. Albritton joined the cattle call and pleaded guilty. She entertained no evidence faith that she would be found innocent. They dangled 45-days at her and she jumped at it. That was not a failure of the system, as you like to see it. That is the system. Her case was disposed of quick time with her consent. This is not some failure of the system; it is how the system works in 95% of the cases. Wake up and open your eyes and mind to the real world.
Oh wait. Never mind. Ms. Albritton was not alone when it came time for a professedly innocent defendant to take a plea.
From September 14, 2004
From October 1, 2004
Let me explain something.
The reason the defendant must allocute and answer those questions is so that the defendant cannot later make a plausible claim of being so dumb, stupid, or ignorant that he or she did not understand what he or she was doing. The defendant knows he or she swore to having done the deed, he or she stated they were guilty, and said their admission was voluntary, etc. This is not done because the system has some heartwarming concern for the defendant possibly being innocent, it has a concern for the defendant having grounds for appeal because of some claimed rights infringement. The defendant does not get the deal without acknowledging that they have been informed of and provided their rights. The system figured out a good way for the defendant to document that he or she had been informed and provided their rights.
In return for some peanut butter and jelly (PBJ), the previously defiant defendant said whatever they asked him to say. And the previously defiant defendant thought damn, a PBJ just sounds so much better than the alternative. This pro se defendant did not appear to have blamed his defense lawyer for incompetent assistance of counsel. He does not blame this incompetent legal advice for a proessedly innocent defendant pleading guilty.
As for the people who came up with the system of plea bargaining, it appears to have existed in this country for over two centuries.
People v. Selikoff, 35 N.Y.2d 227, 232-33 (N.Y. 1974)
nolu chan posted on 2016-07-28 00:16:41 Reply Private Reply
#20: Pinguinite To: nolu chan (#19)
And you might have people like me read your entire responses if it did not take a half hour to do so.
Number 1) It was not an "imaginary system failure". It was a very REAL failure, because an innocent person got saddled with a felony conviction. As I've stated many times but which have your head too stuck in legal morass to understand is that the purpose of the legal system is to punish the guilty without harming the innocent. Apparently you just do not get that, can not understand that very simple, basic principle.
Number 2) The whole point of having legal council is to have an advocate that understands the legal system and will do there best to act and advise in the best interest of the accused. It does not appear that the 2nd part of this was exercised by the attorney, and from your responses, it seems you don't even agree that this 2nd purpose exists. As I stated, if all this woman needed was a means of communicating with the prosecuting attorney about her options, she only needed to speak the same language.
I am of the opinion that these court appointed attorneys do NOT care about the many defendants they supposedly serve. Why would they? It's not like they are paying customers. These lawyers are probably a few years out of law school, bored to tears with the people they are told they have to represent, and certainly many or most of the ones they represent truly are guilty. Of course that would be the statistical truth. But it's also true that it's as statistical impossibility for them not to have innocent people commonly assigned to them.
That's real life. That is the human element part of these court appointed attorneys that compromise the whole idea of having court appointed attorneys. So yes, based on what I've read of this case, the court appointed attorney failed to give adequate representation to this woman. On the other hand, is it his fault for not caring about his clients if he's simply has no vested reason to care about them? Maybe not.
No claim about it. She was innocent. That's a fact as the evidence was conclusively shown to not be any illegal drug.
The system did fail in this case. How it is you see it working well when an innocent woman ended up with criminal conviction demonstrates to me exactly WHY it fails, and it's because of this exact mindset which is probably shared by the vast majority of buffoons that make up the legal system. You are too blind to see the big picture.
Why do you insist I would only only find fault with single people?
If that is how it's designed, then that is a PROBLEM. You don't get that? I would say plea bargaining should be outlawed, exactly because it perverts justice.
If anyone had advised that to Albritton and she had taken it, she would have been acquitted. Or more likely, the charges would have been dropped for complete lack of evidence. That you seem to think it's a good idea for people to be coerced into pleading guilty before there is even any confirmed evidence against them is .... I'm at a loss for words, Nolu. You are just really empty in the head, I guess.
Perhaps my comments on this post clarify my position about both the attorney and the system.
Let me spell it out. She pleaded guilty. Let me spell this out too. She pleaded guilty to a crime she did not commit. DO YOU GET THAT?? You don't seem to acknowledge that at all.
I'll skip the citations you made from your holy book.
Oohhhhhhh no you wouldn't. That's funny. That's really, really funny, Nolu. The USA -- aka the "land of the free" -- has the highest incarceration rate of any country on the planet. Remember that point. Now let's apply some real world common sense to the situation.
Now, what happens when you make the court system prosecute all cases and do away with plea bargaining, given that the court systems are already so overwhelmed with cases? Budgets are tight now so....
First thing that happens is prosecutors start dropping cases that are least important. They only prosecute the worst crimes. Petty stuff involving no victims, much like the woman in the above case, don't go to trial at all. Prosecutors see a single tiny questionable crumb and send her home. Police get the message as well, to only arrest and charge people who are truly a problem. Then the record high incarceration rate of the USA starts to drop.
Or maybe society as a whole see prosecutors letting too many people go, maybe some that are a real problem for society. In that case, society has to up the budget to prosecute. But at least the prison population has dropped off so there's some money savings from that. And then when people like Albritton don't have needless and unjust felony convictions on their record, they earn more money and pay more in taxes, so the economy is better off as well.
You don't understand that she was innocent. A first grader could grasp this concept. But it is somehow beyond your intellect. You don't understand that she agreed to the plea under duress and under kidnapping conditions. You don't understand that pleas are never supposed to be made in exchange for any reward or promise, yet a promise of a reduced sentence is PRECISELY what is dangled like a carrot as an incentive for not troubling the system with accommodating her with her silly right to a trial. That's a right which no one can rightly be punished for exercising, as all rights are. The system FAILED.
And now I notice your knack for digging up stuff is pretty impressive. Or not. When people freely publish things, copying & pasting is pretty easy.
I'm an honest guy Nolu. I count that a virtue, and I don't apologize for it. No one is perfect. Not you, not me. Not anyone. Life is about learning and doing the best one can to do the right thing. I do not answer to you or anyone else here about decisions I make in my own life. I answer to my own conscience alone.
Pinguinite posted on 2016-07-28 01:42:51 Reply Private Reply
#21: nolu chan To: Pinguinite (#20)
I understand perfectly well that at the time Albritton pleaded guilty, her chances of getting acquitted were about as good as yours when you absolutely jumped at a plea bargain. So stop the bullshit. Whether or not to take a plea deal must be judged at the time the offer is made, not under different circumstances that may later arise.
The very late testing on the Albritton evidence did not and could not prove innocence. The absence of evidence is neither proof of innocence nor guilt. Even a court acquittal is not proof of innocence.
You wrote series of self-serving, pie in the sky articles:
As you stated in episode 3, "A lot of things ran through my mind in that moment. ... * I am not guilty of these charges."
And after your recitation of things that ran through your mind, came, "I looked at the judge and in what might be my most infamous moment, said 'I'll take it.'"
Where did the system fail that time? You acted as your own lawyer. You made the decision. Did you fail the system as the defendant or as your own lawyer?
You had a simple traffic stop for not having your headlights on. You were the self-professed man living Life Without a Number [LWAN]. Your LWAN crap led to a second charge of driving without a license which turned out to actually be an expired license. In addition, there was the refusal to provide registration on demand, obstruction of justice, and refusal to obey a reasonable/lawful order. To simplify it, you had a routine stop for not using headlights and amplified it with four more charges for being a pain in the ass.
As for Life Without A Number [LWAN], in episode 4, after you got your mind right, you applied to a drivers license and gave the following account:
To make a long story short, you saw the light and took the license. Apparently, Life Without A Number [LWAN] is making believe you do not have a Social Security number.
So tell me, what made you, a professedly innocent man, plead guilty? Was it a failure in the system? What system prevents a person from pleading guilty?
This works well in your dreamworld, especially in the world of mandatory mimimum sentences and in a Federal system without parole. It begins with a single step... one person refuses to consider any plea bargain... and he is joined by another... and another... and pretty soon it is a movement. Just think, you could have taken the first step.
I had this debate with an idiot about 15 years ago regarding the military justice system. If all service members just refused Article 15 administrative punishment, and demanded Court-Martial, the system would fall apart. Somehow, the movement has never taken hold. It seems few want to go first as there will be draconian sentences. Paging Eddie Slovik.
The record high incarceration will not drop while it remains a money making business.
So you now feel they should have forced you to stand trial. When given the choice in real life, you grabbed a plea agreement at first offer, and you were your own lawyer. You did not even attempt to negotiate for a better deal because you did not believe all your proclamations of innocence.
You have told me that, as Albritton's attorney, you would have advised her to refuse the 21-day offer. Acting as your own advocate, representing yourself, when faced with far less jeopardy, you snatched up a deal as fast as you could. Albritton, faced with two years minimum, in prison, took a deal for 21 days in jail.
Why is it a system failure when Albritton takes a deal in her self-interest, but it is not when you make a conscious and knowing decision to take a plea in far less serious circumstances of your own making?
You fully understand that you are full of shit, but make believe anyway. Your absurd point has been weighed, measured, and found wanting. It has zero legal merit and you, of all people, know that. When you were offered a plea bargain, you jumped at it. You swore you were not coerced, it was your choice. You were not about to be kidnapped.
Albritton was told of her options, in English.
Well, hot diggity damn. In your own case, you spoke English, but every time you opened your mouth you seemed to create another problem for yourself. You chose to represent yourself, so there was no problem of a legal counsel who did not have your best interest at heart. You communicated as you pleased and the system communicated directly to you.
And you believe that bullshit???
You could at least pick up a dictionary and look up assistance of counsel.
Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition, citations omitted.
First, if they are to appear in a criminal case, they damn sure have to be lawyers or attorneys with a valid bar card. You spent too much time around felons who fleeced people and appeared in administrative cases.
See U.S. v. Grismore, 546 F.2d 844 (10th Cir. 1976)
The term you were too lazy to look up was standby counsel. And no, you do not have some constitutional right to have one appointed to you if you proceed pro se. If you dismiss your court appointed attorney and demand to proceed pro se, the court may permit you to proceed as your own attorney. If you desire a standby counsel, the court may agree or refuse. If the court agrees to provide one, it may be the appointed counsel you just dismissed, now serving as standby counsel. No counsel is required to make any motion which has no legal basis, such as most of your rubbish. And none of this will jam the wheels of the system for eternity.
U.S. Supreme Court
McKaskle v. Wiggins, 465 U.S. 168 (1984)
Anne Bowen POULIN, The Role of Standby Counsel in Criminal Cases, In the Twilight Zone of the Criminal Justice System, N.Y.U. Law Review, June 2000, pp. 676-736, at 677-78 and 683-85, extensive footnotes omitted.
Before you tell everyone how the law works, you may want to make a minimal effort to learn how the law works.
From the positive point of view, when you represented yourself and you faced criminal charges of which you had every probability of being convicted, although you wrote patriotically of your professed innocence, you sensibly advised yourself to take a plea agreement, and you took your sensible, competent advice to plead guilty.
nolu chan posted on 2016-07-29 13:53:50 Reply Private Reply
#22: goldilucky To: nolu chan (#21)
The actual reason a party representing themselves pro se has become a burden on the court system is because they are not members of the bar. Therefore they cannot be sanctioned as a member of the bar can. The courts have great power over members of the bar officers of the courts. The courts can sanction and even throw out a member of the bar. The courts have no actual power over pro se litigants. It is not so much that pro se litigants are unschooled in law. It is more to say that many of those nonmembers of the bar are far more intelligent than law clerks working in those federal district courts. Just because a law clerk works in a federal district court does not make them far better educated than a pro se litigant. And by the way, guess who writes those opinions in those federal courts? It sure as hell are not the federal magistrate judges who sign off on those Orders. They don't even read what those law clerks are writing and cutting and pasting boilerplate case law. Refer to this article abovethelaw.com/2016/04/s...ting-to-their-law-clerks/
Most decisions hold that a trial court may properly refuse to appoint standby counsel, and some courts are actually hostile to defendants' requests for assistance.
Again, pro se litigants are treated with contempt even before they file their cases because they are not members of the courts. The federal court system is actually not a court system designed for hearing criminal cases as it was designed for bankruptcy and commerce. Bankruptcy and commerce courts operate solely as a business. This is why some federal courts generally do not acknowledge a litigants rights to represent themselves and argue their cases. You don't mix a criminal case court system with Courts of War (bankruptcy and commerce).
goldilucky posted on 2016-07-29 15:34:44 Reply Private Reply
#23: Pinguinite To: nolu chan (#21)
Her chances were 100% of either aquittal or, more likely, charges dropped. Pleas can be changed later. Or is your idea of a decent justice system one where innocent people are compelled to gamble with the outcome?
The absence of guilt means "not guilty" and you know that, so you cut the bullshit. "Proof of innocence" is proof of a negative and not the burden of the defense.
It was in both cases. Plea bargains are a judicial sham. If the state has a case, it should be compelled to make it. A right to a trial is just that. Punishing people more because they choose one is a violation of a constitutional right. Ergo, plea bargains in exchange for a lessor penalty are really a violation of that right. That people freely choose them due to personal considerations doesn't change that.
Yesterday after seeing your response, I went out to the market. Bought some strawberries, grapes and a few other produce items from the local market. Had an argument with the the spanish speaking indigenous woman who sold the grapes. She said they were $1/pound at first but the price changed to $1.50/pound after she weighed it. Pineapples here are 50 cents each. They are the smaller variety, maybe a little less than half the size as the ones typically sold in the US, but I find they are sweeter. Strawberries are available year round here, as are many fruits, some of which I'd never seen before leaving the USA.
Living outside the USA is a very eye-opening experience, and one that gives a good contrast of culture and law as well, among other things. You learn that what works in the end is the final arbiter of winning or losing, not any laws per se. Though you'd disagree, human laws are actually fickle. We've seen that even in the USA with the decision not to prosecute Hillary over her emails. It's not a perfect world, and the institution of laws don't change that. You want to believe the system works perfectly, but it doesn't. It can't.
I do respect you for your tenacity and ability to cite so much legal material, court cases and such. Academically speaking, it's admirable. I guess I could be flattered you consider my writings worth whatever attention you've given them. But I would point out that you do cite legal references much as a Southern Baptist preacher cites the bible, and more so. Certainly there's far, far more so-called "case law" in a legal library than there is biblical writings, perhaps on the order of magnitude of 10,000 to 1? But for you, I get the very honest sense that law is nothing less than a full blown religion. Your approach and advocacy of about everything you post is from the perspective of "the law". Doubtless you are a very good real life personification of Inspector Javert, the antagonist police inpector from "Les Miserables" who oversaw the jailing of bread thief Jean Valjean and after his escape, later pursued him as his life's passion. All because "the law is the law".
I'm guessing you've never been arrested, charged with a crime or sued. Maybe you are a lawyer and have gone to law school, and obviously you do a lot of research on the net, but unless and until you have been through the system from the perspective of being accused, arrested unexpectedly by strangers and hauled away without preparation, held against your will and treated like cattle and verbally shunned by people that don't know you, all your academics is simply that. You have zero personal experience with the legal system. And no matter how much you think you know, and no matter how much you do know, I know more than you do, and so does Albritton, along with many millions of other Americans who've been at the receiving end of the legal system you cherish so much. So until you've walked the walk, don't talk the talk. It's just a lot of hot air, and you're nothing more than the modern equivalent of a biblical Pharisee.... one who knows theory but clueless on real life application.
Pinguinite posted on 2016-07-30 12:52:15 Reply Private Reply
#24: goldilucky To: Pinguinite (#23)
This should be a famous quote so I'll make it one.
goldilucky posted on 2016-07-30 14:35:44 Reply Private Reply
#25: Pinguinite To: goldilucky (#24)
Pinguinite posted on 2016-07-30 19:56:43 Reply Private Reply
#26: nolu chan To: Pinguinite (#23)
Her chances, at the time she pleaded, were about 100% for conviction. Her only hope was that the confirmatory test came back negative, and she was blaming the drugs on the 30-day boyfriend. And once your guilty plea is accepted, it not often that you get a mulligan.
Who keeps "a used needle hidden in the lining on the roof," also identified as a syringe? It was confiscated for suspected trace evidence. It was not tested at the much later date. If the syringe were stuck in the lining, trace evidence could have been wiped off when it was inserted and removed. Had the case gone to a contested trial, the area where the syringe was inserted very well might have had a sample removed and subjected to testing. The guilty plea made that unnecessary.
Not guilty does not mean innocent. It means not being proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. O.J. was found not criminally guilty by proof beyond a reasonable doubt, but the civil case, O.J. was found liable by a preponderance of the evidence. The absence of evidence did not prove Albritton innocent.
As your agreement to a plea bargain spoke so eloquently, you did not want to gamble on trying to sell your legal theories to a jury or a judge.
Perhaps your idea of the ideal justice system is one without plea bargains. In such a system, you can plead guilty or go to trial on every case. So, the innocent murder defendant cannot plead to a lesser offense. He must take his chances. Undoubtedly, more innocent people are sentenced to death after a jury verdict than after a plea bargain. The Innocence Project (Barry Scheck, Peter Neufeld, et al.) regularly proves that juries are not infallible, prosecutors do not play by the rules, and law enforcement or expert witnesses tell lies and present junk science. You are greatly mistaken in your belief that an innocent person will gain an acquittal at a jury trial.
Speaking of your faith in jury trials, I note that before you entered into a plea bargain, you had already waived your right to a jury trial and chosen a bench trial.
Albritton choose not to risk trial for good reason. She had no reasonable expectation that the confirmatory test would be negative.
Choosing to go to trial was a crap shoot you chose not to make, for good reason. You had no reasonable expectation that anyone would accept your excuses.
There is a way to enjoy that right. Plead not guilty. This argument is a sham. It's like your Fifth Amendment right to remain silent. You can waive it.
Your problem, like Albritton, was that you did not have a case. Albritton had only a Hail Mary that the confirmatory test would be negative. She was not willing to bet years of her life on a prayer she did not believe in.
Your Cliff's Notes defense:
(1) Driving down the street with the streetlights on, and your headlights off, and being stopped for not using headlights is hard to beat. It was May, 9:26 p.m., in Maryland. Sunset was at 8:13 p.m. and it was raining severely.
(2) No drivers license. As you said, "Maryland had me down for a suspended license." The lawyers straighten that out before trial. You can rely on, "I tried hard to get PA to take my application for one without the SSN, but failed. Driving for reasons of personal affair is still by moral dictates a right (it has to be)." Actually, operating a motor vehicle on the roads without a license is a crime. Having no registration does not fall under a secret moral rights codicil to the Constitution either.
(3) Refusal to provide registration. Cop wins. The cop will testify. And, as you said, "I don't even need to testify, probably, given the officer's own statement." Not testifying would be a wise decision, with the understanding that any argument would be hopeless, and you could only make things worse.
(4) Refusal to obey. As in refusal to provide any identification.
(5) Obstruction of justice.
Hiibel v. Sixth Jud. Dist. Ct. of Nev., Humboldt Cty, 542 U.S. 177, 180 (2004)
You could have argued in court, as you did in blog, that in Hiibel, "Contrary to popular belief, the question facing the court was not whether Hiibel was within his rights to refuse to give his name. That answer was already well documented and understood. The real question tackled was: 'What is the average IQ of the current supreme court justices' to which a majority gave a very unflattering answer."
I would not consider it a winning strategy. You can only be just so much of a dickhead with a cop, in the rain, backing up traffic, until a routine traffic stop threatens to be a stretch in jail. You were lucky to evade trial. They had you by the short and curlies.
You are entitled to your opinion and the courts are entitled to theirs. As I always say, their's carries more weight, so it pays to know what their opinion is before jumping in a pile of shit. Your novel idea of the constitution sounds good on a blog, but you hjave demonstrated that you know better than to try it in court when it is your own ass on the line.
As I quoted from the U.S. Supreme Court in Frye at #19,
That is not my opinion. It is the U.S. Supreme Court describing the system as it is. It is reality and not one of your fantasies.
I take it you already had some steel balls to roll around in your hand, and someone stole your strawberries.
You get to shop for fresas and uvas and ananas and such at the mercado. And vino may be cheaper than coca-cola. I am reasonably certain that I have spent several times over whatever time you have spent outside the USA.
To the contrary, I learned that under the Roman Code system, what is in the laws counts. It does not rely on a system of precedents as does the English Common Law System (the U.S. system). I understand Ecuador uses a Civil Code system, typical of Latin countries, and in the USA unique to Louisiana state law, derived from the Napoleanic Codes. Your comment leads me to believe you have not yet enjoyed the experience of being a party to litigation under the code system.
Hillary was politics, not law. That was all the Executive Branch and there was no referral to the Judicial Branch. The judiciary is empowered to interpret and construe the law. Your fanciful proclamations of the law are presented to a blog. When it was time to try it in court, you wisely chose not to. It was your voluntary choice.
I respect that you have convinced yourself to the point that you so ardently believe the way things ought to be, that you ignore the way they actually are. If some poor dumb slob reads your junk and believes it, and acts on that belief, he can wind up in prison. I do write extensive corrections of the law not because I value legal fantasy, but because it poses a danger to the public.
As for using your magic eight ball to make all sorts of wild guesses about me, your magic eight ball appears to get everything wrong.
I have a great deal more personal experience than you. You definitely need a new magic eight ball. You know even less about me than you do about the law.
nolu chan posted on 2016-08-01 00:03:03 Reply Private Reply