11 Dallas Officers Shot, 3 Dead in Shooting as Protest Ended

Source: NBC News
Published: Jul 8, 2016
Author: Phil Helsel
Post Date: 2016-07-08 00:22:19 by Roscoe
Views: 28465

Eleven Dallas law enforcement officers were shot, three fatally, by what is believed to be two snipers who opened fire during a demonstration downtown over recent police shootings in Minnesota and Louisiana, the Dallas police chief said.

The snipers fired from an elevated positions on police officers minutes before 9 p.m., Dallas Police Chief David Brown told reporters.

"We believe that these suspects were positioning themselves in a way to triangulate on these officers from two different perches in garages in the downtown area, and planned to injure and kill as many law enforcement officers as they could," he said. Some were shot in the back.

Three of the 11 officers died, two are in surgery and three are in critical condition, Brown said.

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#84: Justified    To: misterwhite (#36)

Yes the president and MSM have blood on their hands.

Justified posted on 2016-07-08 15:42:44   Reply   Private Reply


#85: Pinguinite    To: A K A Stone (#82)

Like they finally got what was coming.

Well.... define "they".

It's a universal truth that actions have consequences. If you never change your motor oil, you'll eventually wreck your engine. So if we were talking about someone who never did that, then when the day finally came when their engine is destroyed, we would & could say that yes, the owner got what was coming to him. Is it something to be happy about? No. But we would still say that yes, he got what was coming to him.

IMO, the contemporary police culture is one of paranoia because police are conditioned to believe in a substantial risk that every person they encounter could be a killer. Has this paranoia resulted in saving cops lives? No doubt it has. Has his same paranoia resulted in innocent & good people being killed by cops. Yes it has, as very much seems with the recent CC case in Minnesota.

This is aside from blatant cases of police brutality. What comes to mind is the case in CA several years ago, where cops stopped to hassle a homeless guy, demanding to search his backpack. "See these fists, they're about to fuck you up" I think was one quote by one of the cops involved. The guy eventually took off, apparently in fear for his life, and he was beaten severely by the cops and died a few days later.

Cops were tried. Not guilty verdict. Hillary justice.

These recurring events have consequences, and one of them is to inspire militant minded people to do stuff like what happened in Dallas. It's nothing to celebrate, much like the motor oil example I gave (though obviously not equating the two in severity). And it also seems the cops wounded and killed were largely in solidarity with the protest message of non-violence.

But if the police attitude will continue to be that of excessive paranoia, and brutalizing cops will continue to be undisciplined and remain on police forces, then all cops as a whole, nationwide will remain in more danger because of it.

Pinguinite posted on 2016-07-08 15:56:44   Reply   Private Reply


#86: goldilucky    To: redleghunter (#62)

The cameras should be in front of Louis Farrahkan today. He foments this crap often.

Really? And what about shining the light on those cops who shot that lady's fiance in Minnesota several days ago see here: and not also to exclude the fact about those recent shootings in Baton-Rouge, Lousiana.

goldilucky posted on 2016-07-08 17:00:52   Reply   Private Reply


#87: Roscoe    To: ConservingFreedom (#83)

Put some ice on it.

Roscoe posted on 2016-07-08 17:11:12   Reply   Private Reply


#88: Roscoe    To: Pinguinite (#85)

IMO, the contemporary police culture is one of paranoia

There it is again. Like a dog returns to its vomit...

Roscoe posted on 2016-07-08 17:12:51   Reply   Private Reply


#89: Pinguinite    To: Roscoe (#88)

There it is again. Like a dog returns to its vomit...

I'm noticing a pattern in your most recent posts. You've obviously long since exhausted whatever supply of logic and dignity you ever may have had, and can only resort to juvenile insults.

Pinguinite posted on 2016-07-08 17:25:43   Reply   Private Reply


#90: Roscoe    To: goldilucky (#86)

exclude the fact about those recent shootings in Baton-Rouge, Lousiana.

This guy?

Roscoe posted on 2016-07-08 17:31:42   Reply   Private Reply


#91: Roscoe    To: Pinguinite (#89)

Projection on steroids. Gotta source for your paranoia slur yet?

Roscoe posted on 2016-07-08 17:33:06   Reply   Private Reply


#92: goldilucky    To: Roscoe (#90)

Upon further evaluation something is missing. We believe we have identified a very important missing element.

Yeah, that something that is missing is the officer's camera that should have been recording the event at traffic stop. Unfortunately, in Minnesota police don't wear body cameras.

goldilucky posted on 2016-07-08 17:56:11   Reply   Private Reply


#93: ConservingFreedom    To: Roscoe (#87)

Put some ice on it.

Yes, I've put you on ice - shame you haven't the wit to understand that.

ConservingFreedom posted on 2016-07-08 17:58:59   Reply   Private Reply


#94: Roscoe    To: goldilucky (#92)

Yeah, that something that is missing is the officer's camera

No, that's not what the article said about the drug-dealing armed robber.

Roscoe posted on 2016-07-08 18:11:29   Reply   Private Reply


#95: Roscoe    To: ConservingFreedom (#93)

You're a legend in your own mind.

Roscoe posted on 2016-07-08 18:12:53   Reply   Private Reply


#96: GrandIsland    To: Deckard (#31)

You don't really think they are shiny gold tooth gang-bang zoo animals, do ya?

lol

It was government hating extremist, like you that struck.

GrandIsland posted on 2016-07-08 18:43:05   Reply   Private Reply


#97: Deckard    To: Pinguinite, Roscoe (#85)

IMO, the contemporary police culture is one of paranoia because police are conditioned to believe in a substantial risk that every person they encounter could be a killer.

Here's a former cop who agrees: How Police Training Contributes to Avoidable Deaths

In most police shootings, officers don’t shoot out of anger or frustration or hatred. They shoot because they are afraid. And they are afraid because they are constantly barraged with the message that that they should be afraid, that their survival depends on it.

Not only do officers hear it in formal training, they also hear it informally from supervisors and older officers. They talk about it with their peers. They see it on police forums and law enforcement publications.

For example, three of the four stories mentioned on the cover of this month’s Police Magazine are about dealing with threats to officer safety. Officers’ actions are grounded in their expectations, and they are taught to expect the worst.

Of course, others have written on the topic of police training, and many seem to agree that cops are trained to look at every encounter as a potentially lethal one.

It's the us vs them syndrome whereby cops are treating all citizens as criminals.

Peddling Paranoia (New Law enforcement officer training curriculum, critics say, creates a risky mindset)

Police training in US makes officers paranoid, fearful

Deckard posted on 2016-07-08 18:55:12   Reply   Private Reply


#98: Roscoe    To: Deckard (#97)

Typical leftist.

"And of course, the unfair economic advantages of centuries of oppression were only being refined and entrenched , as Ta-Nehisi Coates has eloquently explained. So when urban black America was finally convulsed by the sort of violence that we would expect from anyone in the face of such vicious and unceasing abuse, many white Americans, the bulk of them probably apolitical, some of them supporters of the civil rights movement, were suddenly and decidedly afraid." -Seth Stroughton

Seth was a report writer with the Tallahassee Police Department for five years, then an investigator in the Florida Department of Education's Office of Inspector General handling tuition voucher fraud.

Roscoe posted on 2016-07-08 19:14:59   Reply   Private Reply


#99: Deckard    To: Roscoe (#98)

Typical leftist.

Former cop.

Deckard posted on 2016-07-08 19:19:08   Reply   Private Reply


#100: Roscoe    To: Deckard (#99)

Former cop.

Seth was a report writer with the Tallahassee Police Department for five years, then an investigator in the Florida Department of Education's Office of Inspector General handling tuition voucher fraud.

Roscoe posted on 2016-07-08 19:19:55   Reply   Private Reply


#101: Deckard    To: Roscoe (#100)

Seth was a report writer with the Tallahassee Police Department for five years, then an investigator in the Florida Department of Education's Office of Inspector General handling tuition voucher fraud.

Sounds like a cop to me.

And investigating tuition voucher fraud is a worthwhile endeavor.

Of course, he's not the only one who has stated that police are trained to be paranoid.

Baseless paranoia about crime in America drives police violence

So long as it can be pretended that a police officer had reasonable suspicion his life was in danger, he can get away with anything.

I hope it’s unfair to accuse every cop who kills an unarmed, nonviolent citizen of having enjoyed doing it. But if the majority of them really do feel their lives are in peril, and that they need to act out in the most lethal manner possible, then there is something seriously wrong with their psychology.

To be that paranoid, that knee-jerk with lethal force, is uncalled for in the streets of America, where violent crime has actually been sharply declining for most of the last 20 years.

But this paranoia is a big part of what’s wrong with the average American police officer. Not all of them, of course – many, perhaps even most (although the jury’s still out) are intelligent, compassionate, reasonable, level-headed people.

But their training – not to mention recruitment methods and philosophy – prepare them to face an America that is under siege from a powerful criminal element.

This line of thinking has serious consequences for ordinary citizens who encounter police and has resulted in way too many outrageous, egregious instances of police using uncalled-for deadly violence.

Deckard posted on 2016-07-08 19:28:22   Reply   Private Reply


#102: Roscoe    To: Deckard (#101)

investigating tuition voucher fraud is a worthwhile endeavor.

Deadly force voucher fraud.

he's not the only one who has stated that police are trained to be paranoid.

CopBlock. Alrighty then.

Roscoe posted on 2016-07-08 19:33:32   Reply   Private Reply


#103: Deckard    To: Roscoe (#102)

Deadly force voucher fraud.

If there's a bustle in your hedgerow, don’t be alarmed now its just a spring clean for the May Queen

CopBlock. Alrighty then.

No, Third Rail News.

Learn to read.

Deckard posted on 2016-07-08 19:52:54   Reply   Private Reply


#104: Roscoe    To: Deckard (#103)

No, Third Rail News.

Learn to read.

First line in your article:

"If you don’t already, you should follow CopBlock on Facebook."

[snigger]

Roscoe posted on 2016-07-08 20:06:19   Reply   Private Reply


#105: Deckard    To: Roscoe (#104)

First line in your article:

Cop Block isn't the source for the article, they were linked in the story.

This internet thingie a little confusing for you?

Deckard posted on 2016-07-08 20:15:10   Reply   Private Reply


#106: Roscoe    To: Deckard (#105)

Cop Block isn't the source for the article

Squirmy. The article offered it as a source.

Roscoe posted on 2016-07-08 21:23:44   Reply   Private Reply


#107: Deckard    To: Roscoe (#106)

Getting a little tired of your games.

We're done here.

Deckard posted on 2016-07-08 21:51:00   Reply   Private Reply


#108: Roscoe    To: Deckard (#107)

You took your whipping like a cuck.

Roscoe posted on 2016-07-08 21:57:50   Reply   Private Reply


#109: Deckard    To: Roscoe (#108)

You took your whipping like a cuck.

Delusional as usual.

Effing troll.

Deckard posted on 2016-07-08 22:08:11   Reply   Private Reply


#110: buckeroo    To: Deckard (#109)

"roscoe" has always been a troll; ever since 1998 on JR's FR forum.

buckeroo posted on 2016-07-08 22:17:44   Reply   Private Reply


#111: Roscoe    To: Deckard (#107)

We're done here.

You'll come crawling back for more punishment.

Roscoe posted on 2016-07-08 22:23:23   Reply   Private Reply


#112: Roscoe    To: Deckard (#109)

Effing

See?

Roscoe posted on 2016-07-08 22:23:50   Reply   Private Reply


#113: Pinguinite    To: buckeroo (#110)

"roscoe" has always been a troll; ever since 1998 on JR's FR forum.

Sure is acting like one here.

Pinguinite posted on 2016-07-08 23:52:02   Reply   Private Reply


#114: goldilucky    To: Roscoe (#94)

I read the article you posted. But the point in mine posting that video was to inquire several things: 1) Everybody commenting on that video from that site, seems to want to discredit the woman. But my question is, where is that officer's body camera to dispute what she recorded? (2) The cop pulled the couple over for one thing which was a broken tail light. So why did the officer use such brazen moves to get her fiance to turn over his id? It's insane just watching what that officer did.

goldilucky posted on 2016-07-09 02:14:21   Reply   Private Reply


#115: Pinguinite    To: goldilucky (#114)

But my question is, where is that officer's body camera to dispute what she recorded? (2) The cop pulled the couple over for one thing which was a broken tail light. So why did the officer use such brazen moves to get her fiance to turn over his id? It's insane just watching what that officer did.

I read somewhere that Wisconsin police don't have body cams. At least not yet.

In comparison with the woman who in initially very stoic, the cop seems to be in a state of hysteria.

Pinguinite posted on 2016-07-09 03:36:51   Reply   Private Reply


#116: Roscoe    To: goldilucky (#114)

I read the article you posted. But the point in mine posting that video was to inquire several things: 1) Everybody commenting on that video from that site, seems to want to discredit the woman. But my question is, where is that officer's body camera to dispute what she recorded?

From the article that I posted that you read: "St. Anthony Police Officers don’t wear body cameras."

Roscoe posted on 2016-07-09 06:25:00   Reply   Private Reply


#117: misterwhite    To: Pinguinite (#115)

"I read somewhere that Wisconsin police don't have body cams. At least not yet."

That may be true, but this took place in Minnesota.

Speaking of cameras, do you find it odd that she started recording after the shots? Could it be there's more video before the shots which would negate her story and justify the shooting?

misterwhite posted on 2016-07-09 08:36:04   Reply   Private Reply


#118: misterwhite    To: Roscoe (#116)

I believe there was another officer on the passenger side of the car. I'd be interested in his story.

misterwhite posted on 2016-07-09 08:37:35   Reply   Private Reply


#119: Stoner    To: Roscoe (#90)

That looks like a fine upstanding citizen /SARC

Stoner posted on 2016-07-09 09:46:07   Reply   Private Reply


#120: Pinguinite    To: misterwhite (#117)

That may be true, but this took place in Minnesota.

Then I'll amend to say the state where the incident took place does not have body cams for police.

Speaking of cameras, do you find it odd that she started recording after the shots?

No, it is not "odd" at all. Until shots were fired, there would have been minimal reason to record anything.

Could it be there's more video before the shots which would negate her story and justify the shooting?

The possibilities are endless, aren't they? Except that if the guy wanted to do a shootout with the cop who stopped him for a broken tail light with his 4 year old in the back seat, and his girlfriend in the passenger seat, he'd need a pretty good motive.

Pinguinite posted on 2016-07-09 10:45:22   Reply   Private Reply


#121: misterwhite    To: Pinguinite (#120)

"with his 4 year old in the back seat, and his girlfriend in the passenger seat"

From what I've read elsewhere, I'm not sure it's his 4-year-old or his girlfriend.

Be that as it may, certainly if she started recording as soon as they were pulled over -- and if her story was true -- it would be damning evidence against the police version of events, right? What possible good is a video after the shots were fired?

misterwhite posted on 2016-07-09 11:00:45   Reply   Private Reply


#122: Pinguinite    To: misterwhite (#121)

certainly if she started recording as soon as they were pulled over -- and if her story was true -- it would be damning evidence against the police version of events, right?

Your powers of deduction are incredible.

What possible good is a video after the shots were fired?

Well it does show the cop in a state of hysteria, screaming and such, while she remained respectful and calm. It also shows the cop not seeking to administer first aid to try to save the guy, and not immediately calling for an ambulance.

All in all, the cop seems very...... paranoid.

Pinguinite posted on 2016-07-09 11:09:53   Reply   Private Reply


#123: misterwhite    To: Pinguinite (#122)

"All in all, the cop seems very...... paranoid."

It's not paranoia if they're really after you. If you're any example, this cop will be lucky if he keeps his job.

His "side bitch" is calm because she knows she'll continue to get her welfare, housing and food stamps.

misterwhite posted on 2016-07-09 11:33:09   Reply   Private Reply


#124: Pinguinite    To: misterwhite (#123)

It's not paranoia if they're really after you. If you're any example, this cop will be lucky if he keeps his job.

Oh, he'll probably not be criminally penalized or fired, because there are no body cams or audio recordings to back up the woman's claim of events. He will be taken at his word that he told the guy not to reach for his license while her contradictory testimony will not be considered reliable.

AS for paranoia, it is a feeling of fear that others want to harm you, regardless of whether it is true or not. One can be justly paranoid. It's another word for you to learn about, after "mock".

Pinguinite posted on 2016-07-09 12:11:19   Reply   Private Reply


#125: Pinguinite    To: misterwhite (#123)

His "side bitch" is calm because she knows she'll continue to get her welfare, housing and food stamps.

You know a lot more about what happened at the scene than anyone else does. You must be very smart.

Pinguinite posted on 2016-07-09 12:12:25   Reply   Private Reply


#126: Roscoe    To: misterwhite (#123)

His "side bitch" is calm because she knows she'll continue to get her welfare, housing and food stamps.

And Newports.

And GoFundMe money.

Roscoe posted on 2016-07-09 12:38:50   Reply   Private Reply


#127: GrandIsland    To: Roscoe (#126)

Ya ever notice it's just scumbags who primarily smoke now? There is a reason for everything. lol

Mother Nature at work. Maybe she can suck that Decktard cure-all up in her lungs, marijuana, to cure her lung cancer in a few years.

GrandIsland posted on 2016-07-09 12:48:25   Reply   Private Reply


#128: Roscoe    To: GrandIsland (#127)

Roscoe posted on 2016-07-09 12:55:13   Reply   Private Reply


#129: misterwhite    To: Roscoe (#128)

"... and cartons of Newport cigarettes."

misterwhite posted on 2016-07-09 15:52:50   Reply   Private Reply


#130: misterwhite    To: Roscoe (#126)

"And GoFundMe money."

How much you give?

misterwhite posted on 2016-07-09 15:53:54   Reply   Private Reply


#131: GrandIsland    To: Roscoe (#128)

Newports... the poison of many scumbags. I like it better when they dabble in heroin laced with Fentanyl. Just the thought of that gets me HIGH. lol

GrandIsland posted on 2016-07-09 15:59:08   Reply   Private Reply


#132: misterwhite    To: Pinguinite, Roscoe (#124)

"He will be taken at his word that he told the guy not to reach for his license"

Whoa! Who said the cop asked for his license? Yeah. The girl.

Who said he told the cop he had a concealed carry license. Again. The girl.

Who said they were pulled over for a busted taillight? The girl. That's a lie and I suspect the other statements are also.

misterwhite posted on 2016-07-09 16:09:09   Reply   Private Reply


#133: GrandIsland    To: misterwhite (#132)

Pingtard will believe ANYONE if they hate the Po-Po. Regardless of how ignorant and dysfuntional they are.

GrandIsland posted on 2016-07-09 16:15:25   Reply   Private Reply