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When it was 1.5% in it was 49.5 stay, 50.5 leave, the leaves seem to widening the gap.
2.6% Reporting
Votes Remain a member of the European Union 48.4% 280,820
Leave the European Union 51.6% 299,598
Poster Comment:
This is a wonderful surprise.
#45: Stoner To: SOSO (#44)
OK. Patience grasshopper, patience.
Stoner posted on 2016-06-24 15:35:28 Reply Private Reply
#46: GrandIsland To: paraclete (#33)
I'd gladly build it to keep your poisonous ass out or unable to enter and infect my republic with your progressive idiology.
GrandIsland posted on 2016-06-24 17:30:43 Reply Private Reply
#47: Stoner To: A K A Stone (#28)
Stoner posted on 2016-06-24 18:12:27 Reply Private Reply
#48: nativist nationalist To: GrandIsland (#46)
The Australians are idiots, they don't even have a border but they've allowed a bunch of Islamderthals to immigrate. They were running around Bondi Beach raping women "Leb Style."
nativist nationalist posted on 2016-06-24 19:10:13 Reply Private Reply
#49: SOSO To: Stoner (#45)
SOSO posted on 2016-06-24 19:10:21 Reply Private Reply
#50: Liberator To: Vicomte13, redleghunter, nativist nationalist, AKA Stone (#42)
Yes. Cameron is resigning exactly because his nightmarish vision of the world was roundly rejected -- a vision in which subservience and enslavement of personal and national sovereignty of Britain was sacrificed on the altar of his satanic/fascist One World Government masters; His vision where only two classes exist: serf and lord. His loyalty was pledged NOT to Britain, but to his EU overlords.
Cameron respects the British people - that's why he let them vote on it.
He "LET" them?? Well, wasn't THAT awfully white of him? Cameron was an Elitist, with a capital "E". He was Lord of the Flies. He did NOT represent the best interests of the British people. He's lucky he's not run out on a rail straight to Brussels thru the Chunnel as a cautionary tale to other American and Western Elites whose personal "vision" eliminated common sense immigration policy, consent of the governed and pride in a national identity.
Cameron looked at the UK as a whole, and the difficult and paralyzed political environment caused by Euroskepticism in Britain. He saw that the best future of the UK was as a member in economic unity with Europe, and he believed in it.
At what price?
Samuel Adams said it better than anyone:
"If ye love wealth better than liberty,
the tranquility of servitude
better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace.
We ask not your counsels or your arms.
Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you.
May your chains set lightly upon you,
and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."
Btw, that so-called "Euroskepticism in Britain" was caused by impractically insane micro-management of British life under the boot of un-elected bureaucrats in Brussels, and the EU's insane immigration policy which flooded it's green and pleasant land which the stain of unfettered jihadis.
As an aside -- why are mainstays Sneakypete and TooConservative gone? If they disapprove of Trump, then so what. Let everyone debate the way the forum has always been played. We disapproved when JR censored. Of course the usual idiots should be jettisoned.
Liberator posted on 2016-06-24 20:34:27 Reply Private Reply
#51: buckeroo To: Liberator, A K A Stone, sneakypete, TooConservative (#50)
Free Sneakypete! Free TooConservative!
buckeroo posted on 2016-06-24 20:37:20 Reply Private Reply
#52: Hondo68 To: buckeroo, TooAmerican, TooStraight, sneakypete, TooConservative (#51)
Free the conservative heterosexuals, dump Trump!
Hondo68 posted on 2016-06-24 21:33:19 Reply Private Reply
#53: buckeroo To: hondo68, A K A Stone (#52)
buckeroo posted on 2016-06-24 22:36:01 Reply Private Reply
#54: Hondo68 To: buckeroo, Fred Mertz (#53)
Fred Mertz knows, but he's banned.
Hondo68 posted on 2016-06-24 22:52:50 Reply Private Reply
#55: buckeroo To: hondo68, A K A Stone (#54)
buckeroo posted on 2016-06-24 23:05:46 Reply Private Reply
#56: paraclete To: nativist nationalist (#48)
They tried that but we jailed them, I agree that we should have less muslims here, the progressive forces of the 70's caused this situation, the mood of the electorate is different today, and our borders are secure, courtesy of the Indian, Pacific and Southern Oceans, which are more effective than a wall. If we didn't have the policies we have there would be thousands drowning and we would be overrun by gun totin' muslims
paraclete posted on 2016-06-24 23:47:11 Reply Private Reply
#57: paraclete To: GrandIsland (#46)
Go ahead but it won't keep me out, not than I want to visit your capitalist utopia anytime soon.
My ideology is not progressive but it is not regressive, I have moved on from the 18th century frontier society and the need to protect myself against the natives. Your problem is you think you live in a democracy
paraclete posted on 2016-06-24 23:55:04 Reply Private Reply
#58: A K A Stone To: buckeroo (#51)
A K A Stone posted on 2016-06-25 00:09:45 Reply Private Reply
#59: A K A Stone To: Liberator (#50)
A K A Stone posted on 2016-06-25 00:11:15 Reply Private Reply
#60: buckeroo To: A K A Stone, Free sneakypete! (#58)
buckeroo posted on 2016-06-25 00:14:29 Reply Private Reply
#61: no gnu taxes To: paraclete (#57)
no gnu taxes posted on 2016-06-25 00:16:35 Reply Private Reply
#62: paraclete To: no gnu taxes (#61)
look ethnics hire ethnics, it is easier to exploit your own than others. happens everywhere. It is called discrimination. You have a society that still exploits labour. even if you send these people back you will not fill the jobs those "whites" and "blacks" don't want them, they are "brown" jobs
paraclete posted on 2016-06-25 00:46:04 Reply Private Reply
#63: A K A Stone To: buckeroo (#60)
A K A Stone posted on 2016-06-25 00:48:13 Reply Private Reply
#64: GrandIsland To: A K A Stone (#59)
I'm pretty sure he's got a brand new ID he's posting under.
GrandIsland posted on 2016-06-25 06:38:43 Reply Private Reply
#65: no gnu taxes To: paraclete (#62)
Whites and blacks do want them. Just not for $6 an hour and no benefits.
no gnu taxes posted on 2016-06-25 08:53:16 Reply Private Reply
#66: GrandIsland To: no gnu taxes (#65)
If their only choice was to work those jobs at 8.00 an hour or STARVE... guess what happens.
Our economy needs all three classes. We aren't all equal.
GrandIsland posted on 2016-06-25 08:57:17 Reply Private Reply
#67: buckeroo To: GrandIsland (#66)
Are you a Marxist believing in class warfare between the proletariat and bourgeoisie?
buckeroo posted on 2016-06-25 09:13:37 Reply Private Reply
#68: nativist nationalist To: Liberator (#50)
Good to hear from you. I hope you have been well?
I'm not aware that either Sneakypete or TooConservativewere were banned, but I am very busy so I may have missed something. Sneakypete was pretty straight about where he stood on things, but TooConservative was a guy who never showed his cards, he just seemed to posture on issues but when you stripped away the layers he was very mush in the GOPe camp. He should have just made his case for why he thought they were doing such a great job.
nativist nationalist posted on 2016-06-25 09:39:48 Reply Private Reply
#69: tomder55 To: paraclete (#17)
it was a nail in the coffin when they tried to create an undemocratic 'nation' on a common currency ,and some common defense. They left out some key ingredients like common language and customs. The EU was always a false entity . Most of the Brit laws in recent years have come out of the unelected hall of Brussels. If I were a Brit I would've voted to exit just on that issue alone.
tomder55 posted on 2016-06-25 09:41:52 Reply Private Reply
#70: tomder55 To: redleghunter, Too Conservative (#37)
tomder55 posted on 2016-06-25 09:46:25 Reply Private Reply
#71: GrandIsland To: buckeroo (#67)
No, scumbag. I'm a conservative thinking capitalist that knows that when you feed the animals, they become dependent. Just like when they knowingly, willingly and INTENTIONALLY become a drug ADDICT.
If you don't want to live under the socialist umbrella of income redistribution, you best start liking the idea that we as a FREE nation need working poor to pump out septic tanks, middle class to manufacture the toilet that fills those septic tanks and the wealthy that shit in those toilets and septic tanks while they employ the thousands in their complies.
I deserve my FREEDOM to become as rich as I'm willing to work for.
We ain't all equal... we never were.
GrandIsland posted on 2016-06-25 10:14:04 Reply Private Reply
#72: no gnu taxes To: GrandIsland (#66)
Just to be clear about my point.
These jobs are essentially CLOSED to non-Hispanic workers. They are not advertised, the only way you get them is by word of mouth. The people who hire for these jobs and even the people who work them are highly suspicious of outsiders. If I were to go there ( assuming I wanted to work in the hot sun all day for $6 an hour), they would say sorry, no openings. Even unknown Hispanics are not trusted.
There are large American farmers and builders who control this. They stay far in the background. They hire legal Hispanics as subcontractors. They hire mostly illegals who are glad to have this work because they have guaranteed money on a regular basis. They wouldn't be able to get any job that required a SSN. Most any white or black legal could fairly easily get a better job than this for more money. If these field jobs paid $15 an hour ( as they probably should in a free market that consisted solely of legal citizens) many Americans would be lining up to do the work.
These illegals also know how to game the system. It is very hard to get SNAP, but they can get medicaid pretty easily. They don't feel guilty at all about what they are doing, and just feel they are doing what they need to do to make good lives.
This is not a conspiracy theory. It's the way this works. Anybody who has been around it knows it.
no gnu taxes posted on 2016-06-25 13:50:41 Reply Private Reply
#73: buckeroo To: A K A Stone, sneakypete (#63)
buckeroo posted on 2016-06-25 16:26:31 Reply Private Reply
#74: BobCeleste To: redleghunter (#40)
Watch the exodus of muslim freeloaders. now Brit Vets can start fighting back.
BobCeleste posted on 2016-06-25 17:00:21 Reply Private Reply
#75: BobCeleste To: SOSO (#34)
and to add to that the price of oil is coming down.
Think what a Trump victory will mean to gold, silver and real estate.
BobCeleste posted on 2016-06-25 17:01:17 Reply Private Reply
#76: Gatlin To: buckeroo (#73)
Now start jumping up and down while wailing at the top of your voice ... throw a real hissy fit.
ROTFL ...
Gatlin posted on 2016-06-25 17:26:50 Reply Private Reply
#77: buckeroo To: Gatlin (#76)
buckeroo posted on 2016-06-25 17:32:22 Reply Private Reply
#78: Vicomte13 To: TooConservative (#59)
Vicomte13 posted on 2016-06-25 22:30:01 Reply Private Reply
#79: GrandIsland To: Vicomte13 (#78)
GrandIsland posted on 2016-06-25 22:43:02 Reply Private Reply
#80: Gatlin To: buckeroo (#77)
ROTFL ...
Gatlin posted on 2016-06-25 22:56:11 Reply Private Reply
#81: A K A Stone To: Vicomte13 (#78)
A K A Stone posted on 2016-06-26 00:29:38 Reply Private Reply
#82: SOSO To: BobCeleste (#75)
What would it mean?
SOSO posted on 2016-06-26 00:34:08 Reply Private Reply
#83: paraclete To: SOSO (#82)
paraclete posted on 2016-06-26 06:46:25 Reply Private Reply
#84: paraclete To: tomder55 (#69)
Tom this isn't done in isolation we will all feel the impact, this is the GFC all over again, particularly in Britain. There is a selfish part of me that says this is good for my nation, we will regain lost markets, and there is a part of me that says I don't need another hit to the bottom line and our stocks and currency have taken a big hit. The EU has trodden all over democratic process and has recieved a smack in the face for allowing it. We have all forgotten that they will not emerge from this unscaved, they are no longer the largest economy in the World with the prospect of others leaving, we may even observe the break up of the UK after 300 years, a lesson to all federations, I hear Texas wants out
paraclete posted on 2016-06-26 06:54:10 Reply Private Reply
#85: Justified To: paraclete (#84)
Bravado talk. Im not opposed to it but the problem is progressives in charge of the US govenrment are ruining the lives of the average person for their own personal desires. In time the corrupt group would find its way into Texas government. It always starts with "its to help the poor disadvantage peoples"!
It would be nice to see a bunch of demoncrats squeal and hopefully run across the border so they can get US government tit back.
Justified posted on 2016-06-26 10:24:34 Reply Private Reply
#86: Vicomte13 To: A K A Stone (#81)
Vicomte13 posted on 2016-06-26 10:52:45 Reply Private Reply
#87: Hondo68 To: Vicomte13, A K A Stone (#86)
Probably around the time that the name was changed from "TooConservative" to "tooconservative". TC lost the capital letters when he was reinstated. A search shows no record of the name with caps. "Revisionist history", at it's finest.
"We've always been at war with Eastasia" ~George Orwell, 1984
Trump has always been a conservative. /s
Hondo68 posted on 2016-06-26 11:36:32 Reply Private Reply
#88: GrandIsland To: hondo68 (#87)
GrandIsland posted on 2016-06-26 11:58:23 Reply Private Reply
#89: A K A Stone To: hondo68 (#87)
A K A Stone posted on 2016-06-26 12:40:57 Reply Private Reply
#90: A K A Stone To: Vicomte13 (#86)
A K A Stone posted on 2016-06-26 12:42:33 Reply Private Reply
#91: A K A Stone To: GrandIsland (#88)
A K A Stone posted on 2016-06-26 12:43:00 Reply Private Reply
#92: Hondo68 To: A K A Stone (#89)
You are mistaken dumb ass transgender Trump groupie. Here's a LF page from The Wayback Machine... Note the capitals letters in TooConservative.
Those were happier times, when we could discuss things in an adult manner. Then Trump came along, and temper tantrums....
https://web.archive.org/web/20151226091916/http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/latestcomments.cgi
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Hondo68 posted on 2016-06-26 13:40:53 Reply Private Reply
#93: Hondo68 To: GrandIsland, ConservingFreedom (#88)
I'm not an authoritarian progressive Jack Booted Thug control freak like you are, so I don't care.
CT freak!
Hondo68 posted on 2016-06-26 14:04:46 Reply Private Reply
#94: Vicomte13 To: A K A Stone (#90)
Ah well, that happens.
I've had a few temper tantrums myself, and gone away. I get bored and come back.
He apparently has other things to do with his time, so he has stayed away.
In the end it doesn't really make a difference either way.
Brexiit was fun, Now if we can get Trump and a Frexit out of it, that'd be even better.
Vicomte13 posted on 2016-06-26 14:08:05 Reply Private Reply