Tell me what you know about AR-15's. Which ones would you guys recommend?
Let's talk AR-15's
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| Published: | Jun 16, 2016 |
| Author: | Stone |
| Post Date: | 2016-06-16 20:43:30 by A K A Stone |
| Views: | 6284 |
| Source: | None |
| Published: | Jun 16, 2016 |
| Author: | Stone |
| Post Date: | 2016-06-16 20:43:30 by A K A Stone |
| Views: | 6284 |
Tell me what you know about AR-15's. Which ones would you guys recommend?
#1: buckeroo To: A K A Stone (#0)
buckeroo posted on 2016-06-16 21:07:27 Reply Private Reply
#2: Stoner To: A K A Stone (#0)
" Which ones would you guys recommend? " Lot of choices. Colt, Bushmaster, Armalite, Knights Armament, Daniel Defense, DPMS, Rock River Arms, Windham Weaponry, Ruger, S&W, Sig Sauer, Double Star, and many others.
Be sure to get a flat top upper. You can take the carry handle off, and mount a scope. If you go that route, get flip up sights, in case your scope fails. Otherwise, you will have to reattach the carry handle. Mostly you will find them with 16" bbls. Everyone is infatuated with the shorter bbl, more tacticool. I prefer the longer bbl 20". Gives a longer sight radius with irons, more accurate, and the extra 4" will give more vel & energy on target. Plus with the 20", you can attach a bayonet. I would never want to use that, but in combat, I would never discard an option. For mostly long range use, get a 24" flat top. You will see a variety of bbl twist rates. Best go with 1/9. That will give the best performance with most ammo. Twist rate is very important.
If you buy one, buy at least 1,000 rd case of ammo, get brass cases, avoid the Russian steel case stuff. Get plenty of mags, and a spare parts set. Also, get a good set of web gear with pouches to carry your mags, and a sling for the rifle. Don't forget good cleaning gear. Don't get carried away with all the add on stuff. Some guys want to hang everything including a kitchen sink & microwave on the forearm. Keep it simple.
With AR's, you will get a variety of opinions, everyone has their own. Try to find a dealer that has a range where you can try one out. If possible, maybe you have some friends that have them, and know their shit, that can give you a lot of info. Search the net, there are plenty of forums dedicated to firearms, and specifically AR's. Try Fal Files Forums. You will find a wealth of info. They are a pretty good bunch, ask a question, they will be very helpful.
I am sure you will get some good advice right here at LF.
If you guy one, let us know. Good luck
Stoner posted on 2016-06-16 21:41:14 Reply Private Reply
#3: Logsplitter To: A K A Stone (#0)
Logsplitter posted on 2016-06-17 00:32:21 Reply Private Reply
#4: GrandIsland To: A K A Stone (#0)
GrandIsland posted on 2016-06-17 01:03:24 Reply Private Reply
#5: Willie Green To: A K A Stone (#0)
Civilian version of the M16 with no sensible civilian purpose...
Strictly a marketing gimmick to sell excessive firepower to dimwitted "patriots" whose gonads are bigger than their brains..
If you have a legitimate concern for self-defense, get yourself a good pistol and/or pump action shotgun...
Hunters may also want a bolt action rifle chambered in a calibre appropriate to the game that they're after...
But if you want to shoot a military style weapon, then join the military...
Anybody building their own arsenal because they want to pretend they're a soldier needs to have their head examined.
Willie Green posted on 2016-06-17 08:30:00 Reply Private Reply
#6: cranky To: A K A Stone (#0)
To me, brand doesn't matter all that much as all my ars (.30/7.62mm cal and .223/5.56mm) are chambered to fire either saami or nato rounds. And all of mine are mil-spec (except, of course, gas piston ones).
I have wylde and ackley chambered ar15 and really don't find them any more accurate than a standard chamber. ymmv.
All my ar15s have heavier barrels, either a bull barrel or a heavy varmint contour with either a 1 in 8 or 1 in 7 twist because I wanted to shoot heavier bullets. But I have to hand feed each round because they won't fit in a magazine. For just plinking out to 300 yds or so, the standard coal (about 2 1/4") and 62 gr bullets work fine for me. I can even fit some 69 gr bullets in a mag but might have to use a compressed load.
But the major consideration, imho, is direct impingement (di) or gas piston (piston) design. I have ultrasonic tanks so cleaning isn't much of an issue to me but I don't care much for hot brass or scalding bcgs and a rule of thumb is 'a gun shouldn't sh*t where it eats". But I really like stoner's design so I have both platforms. But even armalite offers both nowadays, I think.
cranky posted on 2016-06-17 09:44:35 Reply Private Reply
#7: misterwhite To: A K A Stone (#0)
First, price. Under $1,000 or over $1000? You can find many under $1,000 ($700-$900) which will get you a basic direct gas impingement(DI) rifle. I've fired my son's LE6900 ($899) and it's a nice quality rifle from Colt. The LE6920 is a full featured rifle that goes for around $1300.
But I've seen a trend from manufacturers moving away from DI and offering a next generation gas piston system. The rifle runs cooler and cleaner and is consequently more reliable. But it's a $500 premium.
I assume you're right-handed and don't need ambidextrous controls. My checklist would be:
-- Short-stroke gas piston operated
-- 1:7 twist, chrome-lined barrel
-- 2 MOA accuracy (standard for a battle rifle)
-- Adjustable stock
-- Removable iron sights
-- QD sling attachments
-- Full-length picatinny top rail (Mil Spec 1913)
-- Additional rails at 3, 6, and 9 o'clock.
You can add accessories later.
misterwhite posted on 2016-06-17 10:15:27 Reply Private Reply
#8: Abcdefg To: Willie Green (#5)
I want one to shoot hogs, which are ruining my pasture land. Your point is invalid.
Abcdefg posted on 2016-06-17 22:25:12 Reply Private Reply
#9: GrandIsland To: Willie Green (#5)
You're as fuckin stupid as grampa Joe Biden.
GFY, libtard.
GrandIsland posted on 2016-06-17 22:52:38 Reply Private Reply
#10: buckeroo To: GrandIsland, Willie Green (#9)
Did you ever hear about Cheney:
OOPPSS!
buckeroo posted on 2016-06-17 23:05:04 Reply Private Reply
#11: Stoner To: A K A Stone (#0)
I wouldn't wait too long. Prices will be going up, and supply is already going down. And supply of ammo is getting thin. Prices on the ammo are most likely to go up as well.
Stoner posted on 2016-06-18 00:35:00 Reply Private Reply
#12: GrandIsland To: buckeroo (#10)
All the scumbag (D)'s still talk about that incident when conservative folks pick on Biden. lol
GrandIsland posted on 2016-06-18 06:33:00 Reply Private Reply
#13: GrandIsland To: Stoner (#11)
I got 10 well made lowers locked in my gun vault... I've got Stones back.
GrandIsland posted on 2016-06-18 06:34:18 Reply Private Reply
#14: Stoner To: GrandIsland (#13)
IIRC, Rock river Arms. Very nice. I have a LEO friend that has a couple of RRA complete rifles. He loves his.
Very smart to have already acquired them, and salted them away. I would assume you already have complete uppers and BCG's to go with them. If not, I would acquire them now.
Stoner posted on 2016-06-18 07:50:11 Reply Private Reply
#15: GrandIsland To: Stoner (#14)
Working on that now (don't tell Bucky)
GrandIsland posted on 2016-06-18 07:55:17 Reply Private Reply
#16: Stoner To: GrandIsland (#15)
Good. The next upper I get will be a 24" flat top. I have a friend that has one. Very accurate. I have a 24" upper with the old fixed handle. Have started to get rid of it, but it is so accurate, I just can not. I can put a scope on it, but it is just awkward. But with irons, it is amazing. I enjoy using irons occasionally, so I keep it. I really want one in a flat top to put glass on.
Stoner posted on 2016-06-18 08:19:30 Reply Private Reply
#17: GrandIsland To: Stoner (#16)
Since the invention of the tactical sling, the fixed handle becomes more worthless and in the way.
GrandIsland posted on 2016-06-18 09:03:10 Reply Private Reply
#18: buckeroo To: GrandIsland (#12)
Yeah, the idea is carried forward to ALL people that wonder about the competentcy of Cheney concerning shooting one of his best friends. Amazing he wasn't arrested and tried for attempted manslaughter, isn't it?
buckeroo posted on 2016-06-18 09:04:24 Reply Private Reply
#19: Stoner To: GrandIsland (#17)
True. I acquired it just before they came out with flat tops. ( gives you an idea of its vintage ) But damn, it is accurate, I have used it on targets out to 500 meters, can ping them all day.
I even thought about replacing the upper rec with a flat top, but not worth it. Might as well get a whole new upper assembly. Besides, this one has the iron front sight gas block. Kinda funky now. But still damn accurate
Stoner posted on 2016-06-18 09:38:10 Reply Private Reply
#20: misterwhite To: GrandIsland (#17)
How do you keep the charging handle from digging into your ribs?
misterwhite posted on 2016-06-18 10:07:04 Reply Private Reply
#21: GrandIsland To: buckeroo (#18)
For folks that understand the law, no. For libtards, yes, hard for them fukstains to think fairly.
GrandIsland posted on 2016-06-18 11:17:14 Reply Private Reply
#22: GrandIsland To: misterwhite (#20)
Simple, the ballistic vest
GrandIsland posted on 2016-06-18 11:21:49 Reply Private Reply
#23: buckeroo To: GrandIsland (#21)
buckeroo posted on 2016-06-18 11:30:50 Reply Private Reply
#24: GrandIsland To: buckeroo (#23)
GrandIsland posted on 2016-06-18 11:37:29 Reply Private Reply
#25: buckeroo To: GrandIsland (#24)
It doesn't mean you are an "authority." Just because you held a stop sign in one hand while cramming down your throat a jelly filled doughnut gives no merit for any experience, no matter the length of tyme.
buckeroo posted on 2016-06-18 11:43:05 Reply Private Reply