About 20 people dead in gay nightclub shooting, Orlando police say

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FBI is assisting with the investigation. Agents say they cannot rule this out as an act of domestic terrorism and that the suspect, who is not from Orlando, may have leanings toward extreme ideologies.

The Deckards of society giving the Feds more voter support to keep a watchful eye the Deckards and Buckies of society.

The Deckards of society giving the Feds more voter support to keep a watchful eye the Deckards and Buckies of society.

The liberaltarians are real big on importing Islam into America. The dope smokers are big on sodomy and open borders, and this is a case where they got some of that blowback they're always screaming about.

FBI on scene awfully quick. Pretty unusual. You agree?

No. I'm sure if you research it, they have an office close. The Feds are very interested in active shooters and as of 9/11, have been more accessible assisting local police.

We can't shit in our back yards and not expect to step in it.

GrandIsland: The Deckards of society giving the Feds more voter support to keep a watchful eye the Deckards and Buckies of society.

nativist nationalist: The liberaltarians are real big on importing Islam into America. The dope smokers are big on sodomy and open borders, and this is a case where they got some of that blowback they're always screaming about.

Both of you idiots refuse to acknowledge that your own political party, the DEM/GOP, have created this current mess.

Both of you idiots refuse to acknowledge that your own political party, the DEM/GOP, have created this current mess.

Buckwheat J. Libtard, your liberaltarian party has nominated Gary Johnson, who favors a Mexican border you drive across at 60 miles per hour. A liberaltarian is just a cuckservative who smokes dope.

You cite the Libertarian Party as though you are an authority on "libertarianism."

We get a lot of exposure to liberaltarians on this forum.

CNN JUST ANNOUNCED AT LEAST 50 DEAD AND 53 WOUNDED.

I guess Obunghole will want to bring in more muzzies, and he & Shitlery will be demanding more gun control.

Look for gun & ammo prices to go up, and availability to go down.

CNN JUST ANNOUNCED AT LEAST 50 DEAD AND 53 WOUNDED.

I guess Obunghole will want to bring in more muzzies, and he & Shitlery will be demanding more gun control.

The yellow journalism crowd will claim Omar Mateen as another victim of da police. Omar Mateen was a good boy, he dindu nuffin, and he loved Allah and...

As a recommendation, you should take some tyme to learn how to spell: l-i-b-e-r-t-a-r-i-a-n-i-s-m. As an opportunity affords itself, and on your own, you can look the definition up afterwards.

My way is more accurate Buckwheat. You guys want to let in a billion welfare consumers from the turd world as part of your policy of shrinking government.

We do not believe in government services that forces hard working taxpayers to pay for welfare for anyone.

Liberaltarian open borders forces taxpayers to pay welfare for all the turd world immigrants. If we'd had an America First immigration policy we'd be paying a lot less in welfare. The empirical results of Liberaltarian open borders is more welfare consumption, and more votes for welfare programs.

I suspect we will see more attacks like this.

Obunghole & Shitlery will be demanding more gun control.

If you do not already have your weapons & ammo, better get them now.

You have your whole world turned up-side-down with those that cherish individual freedoms. You should run out and educate yourself at a local library since you can't use the internet with any serious effort.

There are good elements about free trade practices between neighboring countries if and only if, national soverignty is fully respected. The way the US government has it all set is a serious problem for all of us.

That's right, you liberaltarians are also in favor of the trade policies that have de-industrialized vast swaths of America. If it weakens America, liberaltarians are for it.

Thanks for the info. He was of the religion of peace.

I suspect we will see more attacks like this.

This is a case of democrat on democrat violence.

My way is more accurate Buckwheat. You guys want to let in a billion welfare consumers from the turd world as part of your policy of shrinking government.

It's you guys that want the welfare to be here to bait them in!

If we'd had an America First immigration policy we'd be paying a lot less in welfare.

If you had a liberatarian policy, you wouldn't have any welfare. Period.

But you want the government to be giving handouts. That's why you are not a libertarian.

It's you guys that want the welfare to be here to bait them in!

I'm against it, stupid liberaltarians want to allow unlimited numbers into America into America to consume welfare and vote for more of. You guys would be happy to allow a billion turd world immigrants into America.

All US/state/county/local government elections are rigged to ensure GHBush's "one world order." Of course, he was an internationalist and a registered GOP mannequin.

I'm against it, stupid liberaltarians want to allow unlimited numbers into America into America to consume welfare and vote for more of.

LOLOL!!!!

So it's the fault of the liberatians that welfare is a problem! And libertarians are not even running things. You are sooooooooooo cute!!

" The number dead has moved to at least 50 dead. "

The USA will experience more of these attacks. The only question is WHEN & WHERE ?

This is not a good time to go out to large gatherings of people. Better watch your 6, and maintain situational awareness. If you do not already have your CCL, better get moving.

Obunghole, Shitlery, and others will be using this as an excuse for more gun and magazine bans. You can bet that by Tuesday, prices will be UP, and supply will be DOWN.

So it's the fault of the liberatians that welfare is a problem! And libertarians are not even running things.

Open borders is a key tenet of liberaltarian theology. Liberaltarians are just cuckservatives who like to smoke dope.

A friend of mine that I talked to short while ago went earlier to a Wal Mart the next county over. He tells me no 9mm, no .45, no .357, no .223, no .308, no .40, and naturally no .22 lr. He said 12 ga was low, mostly birdshot no 6. Some 30-30, and some bastard calibers. Said he went ahead and bought some of the 12 ga and 30-30. He said the clerk told him had been crazy all morning.

It has started.

Open borders is a key tenet of liberaltarian theology.

It's not a "key" tenet. It is one plank of a large platform. And it's one I don't even agree with.

Liberaltarians are just cuckservatives who like to smoke dope.

Stereotypical hogwash.

Most libertarians are cold, rational thinkers. The scientific types. The emotionally sensitive types tend to be the liberals which have very little in common with libertarians, because they tend to favor having the government give hand outs.

Last night some deadbeat loser killed more than 50 people in a gay club in Orlando, Florida. It is the largest shooting massacre in the U.S. since Wounded Knee. According to his ex-wife the man, one Omar Mateen, used to beat her and was not religious. He had worked for the private prison and mercenary corporation G4S for more than five years. There were U.S. Marines stickers on his car.

Earlier Mateen took pictures of himself and posted those on Myspace. The pics are selfies and mostly not remarkable but in TWO of them he wears shirts with New York Police Department emblems on them.

(pictures flipped for better readability)

This tells us what?

• The guy was a follower of the NYPD?
• He had pledged allegiance to the NYPD?
• G4S or the NYPD radicalized him and taught him to hate gays?

There is currently a lot of speculation, but no public evidence, that the guy was also a fan of the Islamic State (ISIS) death cult. None of the pictures he posted points into that direction, but it still may be the case.

But what does that really tell us?

Was his emotional relation to ISIS as strong as his emotional relation to the NYPD?

Do such assumed allegiances tell us anything at all?

The guy was a follower of the NYPD? He had pledged allegiance to the NYPD? G4S or the NYPD radicalized him and taught him to hate gays?

That whole post was as stupid as a 17 year old Paultard in the 3rd grade.

Ask yourself who killed this piece of worthless diaper head shit. Was it the military? No. Was it an armed faggot? No. Was it Ron Pailtard himself? Fuck no. Was it one of the armed rabid Paultard government hating, revolt threatening militia? NO.

It was who you claim he loved and admired.... LAW ENFORCEMENT. Dumb shit.

Good thing we train, arm and equip LE with the kind of gear it takes to wipe out domestic terrorists, like yourself. I notice you didn't do anything to save the fags.

By the way... anyone ask Peter Puffer if all his relatives are ok? After all, by his own admission, he was 40 times more likely to lose a family member in this active gunman incident.

The cops and Feds could have stopped this massacre - but they didn't.

US Law Enforcement Knew Florida Shooter BEFORE Shooting

By the way... anyone ask Peter Puffer if all his relatives are ok?

At least you aren't trying to conceal the fact that you are thrilled to see the 50-some "faggots" murdered.

Too much of a coward to do it yourself I suppose.

The cops and Feds could have stopped this massacre - but they didn't.

If the Feds took his guns or kicked his door at 0300 hours with a no-knock, you'd have shit yourself in anger and posted a yella article about how the Feds shot his pitbull.

Fuck you, hypocrite

By the way... anyone ask Peter Puffer if all his relatives are ok? After all, by his own admission, he was 40 times more likely to lose a family member in this active gunman incident

Are you referring to sneakypete?

Isn't he still banned?

Isn't he still banned?

I wasn't aware... but I hope so. lol

By the way... anyone ask Peter Puffer if all his relatives are ok? After all, by his own admission, he was 40 times more likely to lose a family member in this active gunman incident…

Are you referring to sneakypete?

Isn't he still banned?

I wasn't aware... but I hope so. lol

Your lack of awareness has never been disputed, but really, how low can you get, claiming "he was 40 times more likely to lose a family member in this active gunman incident…"?

You're one sick puppy...

I wonder how many little Puffers hid under the tables and screamed like Tea Party Reveler in the fag bar?

It was Peter Puffer who claimed that 40% of every household has faaaggots in them... and I know he ain't talking about my family so it must be a Peter Puffer trait.

I've read that something like 10 percent of the population are fags, so no doubt your extended family has some, -- and with your phobia, I'd bet some of your close relatives are puffers.

I wonder how many little Puffers hid under the tables and screamed like --- Party Reveler in the fag bar?

Ask around during your family get togethers, -- you'll find out.

If the Feds took his guns or kicked his door at 0300 hours with a no-knock

I don't have a problem with the cops going after terrorists, so go fuck yourself.

They allowed him to by the weapons he used even after all of the red flags indicating he might carry out such an attack.

This shooter was groomed by the FBI for just this purpose.

If the Feds took his guns or kicked his door at 0300 hours with a no-knock, you'd have shit yourself in anger and posted a yella article about how the Feds shot his pitbull.

So true ... so very true!!!

They allowed him to by the weapons he used

How exactly does one by weapons?

You have to admit mistakes like that make you sound dopey.

A sub-room temperature IQ simpleton like you pretending to be smart and acting like a spelling Nazi.

Is that you yukon?

Typo flames - very impressive.

Hush, Mr Adherent to a political party with 4800 voting members.

Bugger off troll.

Oh, Vinny, “woe unto thee” …

The first worse thing you can do on the internet is send your personal banking information to a mysterious Nigerian prince. The second worse thing is to is to question even the most tepid comment by a Paultard.

Now you have gone and done it this second worse thing, Vinny, and you have enraged LF’s resident petulant libertarian child.

Adherent to a political party with 4800 voting members.

You keep saying that like it means something.

libertarian child

"Libertarian child" is an oxymoran and Deckard is a full blown kook who on one hand believes all elections are fixed while on the other fails to see that by fixing elections gun control would be complete without the sloppy mess of a bloody, insanely risky "false flag."

You keep saying that like it means something.

It means that promotion of the Constitution Party is a waste of time.

It means that promotion of the Constitution Party is a waste of time.

Your false conclusion relies on the false assumption that taking office is the only worthwhile outcome of a campaign.

Deckard is a full blown kook who on one hand believes all elections are fixed...

Elections and politicians are in place in order to give Americans the illusion that they have freedom of choice. You don’t really have choice in this country.

All the things that are important reduced in choice; newspapers in a city how many, used to be three, four; now it’s one or two; is it owned by the same people and they also own radio station.

Give these people a voting day every year, so that they’ll have the illusion of meaningless choice, meaningless choice that we go like slaves and say, "Joe, I voted."

The limits of debate in this country are, are, are established before the debate even begins.

And everyone else is marginalized, and made to seem there to be communist or some sort of disloyal person. A kook, there is a word and now it’s conspiracy, say, they made that something that’s, that is, that is should not be even entertained for a minute that powerful people might get together and have a plan, it doesn’t happen you are a kook, you are a conspiracy buff, a conspiracy buff.

*****

...while on the other fails to see that by fixing elections gun control would be complete without the sloppy mess of a bloody, insanely risky "false flag."

That is probably the most idiotic statement I've seen anyone here make.

Elections and politicians are in place in order to give Americans the illusion that they have freedom of choice.

Goof ball, why doesn't the PTB usher in gun control via fixed elections rather than messy, risky "false flags"?

Never use the word false twice in a sentence.

A stupid rule from a stupid man.

Now go away.

Stop posting dumb shit and I'll have nothing to say to you.

Thank you A K A Stone, simple logic eludes the conspiratorial mind.

why doesn't the PTB usher in gun control via fixed elections rather than messy, risky "false flags"?

Geesh, you're a petulant little wench, aren't you?

Both parties support the same NWO agenda. The rhetoric spouted by both parties would make you believe that they are enemies when in fact they are all working for the same team and controlled by the CFR and other globalist groups. Voting gives you the illusion of choice when in actuality the two choices are the same.

When have the Republicans ever not kowtowed to the Dem's gun-grabbing agenda? Have the Republicans ever rolled back any gun laws?

Here's how it works - the party which is in power introduces legislation to advance the globalist agenda. The party that is in opposition (the party NOT in power) opposes (or pretends to oppose) the legislation, which doesn't really matter because they have no power to do anything.

We then have a farce, or what is commonly referred to as an "election" and the two parties change sides.

Now the "opposition" party is in power - and they continue with the same agenda while the party that was in power now opposes it.

As far as your statement about gun control via fixed elections vs messy, risky "false flags" well, the answer is pretty simple. Have you ever heard of the "Hegelian Dialectic"? No, I suppose you haven't.

It's also known as "Problem-Reaction-Solution".

The Problem Reaction Solution Paradigm

1. The government creates or exploits a problem blaming it on others (false flag).
2. The people react by asking the government for help willing to give up their rights.
3. The government offers the solution that was planned long before the crisis.

   Taking the lesson taught by Goering, George W. Bush famously said, "You are either with us or you are with the terrorists."

   Propagandists in the U.S. government used the Hegelian Dialectic and the 9/11 attacks to justify it's war on terrorism, wage war in Afganistan and Iraq, and to convince the American people to give up their rights for their supposed safety.

   False flags are covert operations usually conducted by governments or corporations which are made to appear as though performed by another entity. For instance when Nero burned Rome to blame it on the Christians, when Hitler burned his own Reichstag to blame on the communists, or when the USS Maine was blown-up to blame on Cuba/Spain. False flags are used disturbingly often and effectively through the implementation of the Hegelian Dialectic.
   
   The history of the economic crises we've experienced in America can only be understood within a framework of the Hegelian dialectic process: Problem-Reaction-Solution.

   1. The government and big banks create a real estate bubble and blames it on homeowners that cannot repay their loans.
   2. The people react by asking the government and banks for help.
   3. The government takes Trillions of taxpayer dollars to bail out banks and pay huge bonuses to those working in the financial industry who created the problem in the first place. The taxpayer is left with the debt and austerity measures.

   Make no mistake about it… these economic crises were engineered by the same International bankers that have been active throughout our history and that brought about a central bank and unconstitutional taxes in the U.S.
   
   Every major financial crisis America has experienced in her history has followed this same Hegelian dialectic pattern with the outcome being another incremental step toward world financial domination by an elite few. The International bankers create the Problem in the first place... the Reaction is the economic crisis... and the Solution is provided by the same bankers and bureaucrats that created the problem in the first place.
   
   42 ADMITTED False Flag Attacks

   (30) Although the FBI now admits that the 2001 anthrax attacks were carried out by one or more U.S. government scientists, a senior FBI official says that the FBI was actually told to blame the Anthrax attacks on Al Qaeda by White House officials (remember what the anthrax letters looked like). Government officials also confirm that the white House tried to link the anthrax to Iraq as a justification for regime change in that country.

   (54) A former U.S. intelligence officer recently alleged:

   Most terrorists are false flag terrorists or are created by our own security services.

      

   (55) The head and special agent in charge of the FBI's Los Angeles office said that most terror attacks are committed by the CIA and FBI as false flags.  Similarly, the director of the National Security Agency under Ronald Reagan - Lt. General William Odom said:

   By any measure the US has long used terrorism. In '78-79 the Senate was trying to pass a law against international terrorism - in every version they produced, the lawyers said the US would be in violation.

   (audio here).

   Now - the Orlando shooting.

   Of course it was a black-op false flag.

   The FBI, Not "ISIS," Radicalized the Orlando Shooter

   US Law Enforcement Knew Florida Shooter BEFORE Shooting

As far as your statement about gun control via fixed elections vs messy, risky "false flags" well, the answer is pretty simple. Have you ever heard of the "Hegelian Dialectic"? No, I suppose you haven't.

Kook, using your childish logic all that is needed to strike down our 2nd Amendment is to fix 50 (+/-) House & Senate seats. Easy stuff given all elections are rigged, right? So all this insanity about Pirate Flags (ha!), crisis actors, and ketchup for blood at crime scenes is cartoon- like nonsense.

...all that is needed to strike down our 2nd Amendment is to fix 50 (+/-) House & Senate seats.

Ha ha ha ha ha!

Never gonna happen.

Man, you really are the kook here.

I bet that despite the conclusive evidence, you believe Oswald acted alone.

Oh, my sides!

BTW - real nice job of debunking the DOCUMENTED information I posted < / sarcasm >

Typical from those of your limited intelligence.

He has you deckard.

Sure he does.

False flags never happen, right?

Despite the mounds of DOCUMENTED evidence to the contrary.

Let me guess - you and the other clown never bothered to read the info I posted.

I expected better from you Stonie.

Mateen was a 'known quantity' to federal law enforcement before he killed 53 people in the worst mass shooting in U.S. history.

The FBI is Responsible for More Terrorism Plots In the United States Than Any Other Organization. More Than Al Qaeda, More Than Al Shabaab, More Than the Islamic State, More Than All Of Them Combined

Never gonna happen

Kook, please tell this board why globalists prefer elaborately staged FFs, complete with 1000s of crisis actors, first responders, the media and the public, all equipped with cell phone cameras, all sworn to silence in perpetuity, to voter fraud?