“She was a good distance away, maybe 10 feet ..."

For someone with a knife, that's a bad distance away. 21 feet is a good distance away. 40 feet is even better.

"And why wasn’t a Taser deployed first?"

Because the officer didn't want to die.

Why didn't he shoot the knife out of her hand?

"Why didn't he shoot the knife out of her hand?"

He was trying. He missed.

"Why didn't he shoot the knife out of her hand?"

Why didn’t he do it like they do in the movies, discard his gun and then engage Vo in a “fair” knife-to-knife combat?

Officer Bloch could have reacted like Sylvester Stallone in the film Cobra where as a city cop Stallone must stop a knife using serial killer and cult member.

There is a fight scene at the end involving a knife fight between Stallone's character Cobra and the Night Slasher.

We can only surmise that Officer Bloch did not watch the movie Cobra or there could have been a different slant to this story.

Maybe police departments should include the movie Cobra in their take-down training. Just an idea ...

Looks to me like the cop was in no danger of being killed, let alone being attacked. She didn't lunge at him or make any aggressive move towards him. She was walking down the street, and in fact looked to be unaware of the "hero's" presence.

He must have given her all of two seconds to comply with his order to drop the knife before he killed her.

But hey - what's the point arguing with the "cops are gods and can do no wrong" cabal?

They'll find a way to defend this cold blooded murder because the cop claimed he "feared for his life". The magic words that will exonerate any cop who indiscriminately kills a citizen who is absolutely no threat.

Looks to me like the cop was in no danger of being killed

The least reliable source there is.

Looks to me like the cop was in no danger of being killed, let alone being attacked. She didn't lunge at him or make any aggressive move towards him. She was walking down the street, and in fact looked to be unaware of the "hero's" presence.

You looking at a video in the comfort and safety of your home and a cop looking at a maniac 10 feet from him with a knife is her hand who had just been chasing her mother with the knife … are two entirely different aspects.

Sergeant Dennis Tueller, of the Salt Lake City, Utah Police Department wondered how quickly an attacker with a knife could cover 21 feet (6.4 m), so he timed volunteers as they raced to stab the target. He determined that it could be done in 1.5 seconds.

How long would it take her to turn and charge the cop? According to the Tueller test, exactly .75 seconds. The .75 seconds does not leave sufficient reaction time to stop her. He yelled at her to drop the knife, and she did not. Her mother was there within a few feet of her, as were probably others.

He must have given her all of two seconds to comply with his order to drop the knife before he killed her. But hey - what's the point arguing with the "cops are gods and can do no wrong" cabal?

He gave her two seconds while she would have given him .75 seconds. Where is the parity in that from the cop-hating cabal?

They'll find a way to defend this cold blooded murder because the cop claimed he "feared for his life".

They’ll investigate to see if he followed published procedures. If he did not, then punishment will be administered. If they find it was cold blooded murder, then they will bring him to trial, find him guilty and punish him to the full extent of the law. You are aware that cops have been tried and convicted of murder … right? They have before, and they will be again … whenever there is sufficient evidence to prosecute them.

The magic words that will exonerate any cop who indiscriminately kills a citizen who is absolutely no threat.

Sorry to shock you, sport … but sitting there in the comfort of your home watching a video doesn’t give you the qualification or right to decide that Vo was no threat to the cop or others close by. Furthermore, “magic words” do not exonerate a cop of anything. A trial by jury of his peers, or a decision by a judge, can only do that. It’s the American way … God Bless America.

Furthermore, “magic words” do not exonerate a cop of anything.

You really believe that?

You are more delusional than I thought.

ESAD boot-licker.

Furthermore, “magic words” do not exonerate a cop of anything.
You really believe that?
You are more delusional than I thought.

Of course.
Not delusional, just and objective fact finder.

ESAD boot-licker.

I don’t eat shit. but I do love to figuratively shove it in your face and rub it in when posting to you.

Bad News: As for dying, that is going to happen. But many years from now. Generations of the males in my family have live to the century mark.

Good News: You can expect years of continued reading of my highly educational posts here on LF.

The fact remains - this woman made no aggressive moves towards the cop, he was not being threatened in any way and gunned her down for no reason other than he was a chicken-shit coward.

Contrast this with the way police in the UK have dealt with knife-wielding suspects who were much stronger and more agile than Vo, or the Ohio cop who amazingly did not kill a disturbed man with a knife. But far too often, American cops have a reputation for resorting to deadly force, especially with the mentally ill.

You can expect years of continued reading of my highly educational posts here on LF.

There's the reason most folks here think you're an asshole - I hope you become a victim of the drug war, by a zero-dark-thirty, no-knock SWAT raid because the cops had the wrong address.

Contrast this with ...

If he did not follow procedures, he will be reprimanded or punished.

If he did, then he will return to duty.

Those are "the facts that remains."

I contrast nothing ... I am dealing with the situation at hand, the subject of this thread.

There's the reason most folks here think you're an asshole ...

It may come as a shock to you to learn that I just don't give a shit about what you Paultard idiots think of me here on LF.

I can were the title of "asshole" from ignorant Paultards with honor.

And I forever will ...

I am dealing with the situation at hand, the subject of this thread.

The two links posted are relevant to the discussion.

Not that facts ever mattered to you anyways.

I can were the title of "asshole"

You can also wear the title of LF's least intelligent poster.

Horrendously bad video. Shows nothing.

Need to go back to the days of nightsticks and taser. Give police the ability to disarm people without killing them.

This really is a federal government and lawyer murder. Please must have real ways of dealing with mentally unstable people without getting harmed too.

Give police the ability to disarm people without killing them.

Please must have real ways of dealing with mentally unstable people without getting harmed too.

A well thought out post.

I agree.

“We saw she had a knife, but she wasn’t lunging,” said Nguyen. “She was a good distance away, maybe 10 feet, not even moving in his direction. She was following a path. He didn’t seem to register to her. She didn’t look up”

Uhhhh,I got bad news for you. She was bi-polar (10 dollar word for nuts),carrying a large knife,had been chasing her own mother with that knife,and was only ten feet away from the cop and heading in his general direction.

Good shoot.

Why didn't he shoot the knife out of her hand?

Please tell me you're not serious.

This really is a federal government and lawyer murder. Please must have real ways of dealing with mentally unstable people without getting harmed too.

How did that happen? "Police"

They'll find a way to defend this cold blooded murder because the cop claimed he "feared for his life". T

Why WOULDN'T he have been fearing for his life? Here was whack job with a Yuge knife that had been chasing her own mother with it and threatening to kill her.

I would consider all 4 justifications as good first clues she was dangerous.

They’ll investigate to see if he followed published procedures.

Yes,they will. The city will want to find justification so they don't have to pay out millions in a wrongful death suit.

If he did not, then punishment will be administered. If they find it was cold blooded murder, then they will bring him to trial, find him guilty and punish him to the full extent of the law.

ROFLMAO! Good one!

At MOST they will fire him and give him a letter of recommendation so he can get another cop job somewhere else.

"The .75 seconds does not leave sufficient reaction time to stop her."

Even the first four shots at point-blank range had no effect. Had she attacked him, he would have had a knife in his neck before she went down.

Need to go back to the days of nightsticks and taser. Give police the ability to disarm people without killing them.

Tasers don't work very well,and sometimes not at all,on people high on meth or who are nutcases by nature.

I'm betting a lot of meth heads would thank the cop for the rush.

Please must have real ways of dealing with mentally unstable people without getting harmed too.

There ain't no such thing as a safe way to deal with a head case that is armed. The best you can hope to do is keep some distance from them and try to distract them so a couple of other cops or orderlies can come up on them from behind and smother them with body mass.

Even that is taking a chance. The insane are insanely strong.

The surest way I know of to get your ass beat to the ground is to get in a fight with somebody and try to not hurt them. You might do that once,but you won't even do it again.

Even the first four shots at point-blank range had no effect. Had she attacked him, he would have had a knife in his neck before she went down.

Crazy people don't just fall down and die unless it's from a head shot or a spine shot. Anything else and you had better be backing up as you are shooting if they are close.

Tasers don't work very well,and sometimes not at all,on people high on meth or who are nutcases by nature.

I'm betting a lot of meth heads would thank the cop for the rush.

Thats when the office needs to make his mind up what to do. Is it a crazy person that taser or a nightstick can take care of or is it some person hyped up on drugs and he just has to put them down.

I believe this is a federal government and lawyer murder. They have taken the ability of people to defend themselves with out being bankrupt by lawyers and thrown in jail because of some progressive federal judge making a name for themselves!

Thats when the office needs to make his mind up what to do. Is it a crazy person that taser or a nightstick can take care of or is it some person hyped up on drugs and he just has to put them down.

The thing is when they are armed with a knife,10 feet away and chasing their own mother to murder her,the decison-making is no longer in your hands. Circumstances beyond your control have already dictated what you must do.

Life ain't always easy.

BTW,you never see cops with nightsticks anymore because too many people were dying from busted skulls.

There ain't no such thing as a safe way to deal with a head case that is armed. The best you can hope to do is keep some distance from them and try to distract them so a couple of other cops or orderlies can come up on them from behind and smother them with body mass.

Today police have to watch out for gang bangers and pissed off family members attacking them from the back.

I think in this case if given the chance the officer could have taser her or broke her arm with a night stick. But that would have been a lawyers wet dream.

Officer was put in a crappy situations and did what he thought was right.

Life ain't always easy.

Thats the truth. Federal government and lawyers making it harder day by day.

Officer was put in a crappy situations and did what he thought was right.

Agreed. Sometimes there just aren't any good answers. There is only surviving and insuring innocents survive. It sucks,but life is that way sometimes.

Life ain't always easy.

Thats the truth. Federal government and lawyers making it harder day by day.

No argument there from me!

I can pick your posts apart all day with typos and mistakes.

You want to start engaging in a spelling Nazi warfare, shithead.

Then let the games begin ...

I am dealing with the situation at hand, the subject of this thread.

The two links posted are relevant to the discussion.

Not that facts ever mattered to you anyways.

Why don't you start using your own words and thoughts for a change and stop with the paste and copy bullshit letting everyone else do your thinking.

You do have a mind of your own, right?

Then start to fuck using it and quit being a lapdog for other people's ideas and opinions.

Just some good sound advise ... of course you will ignore it.

It did me good however, to post it ...

The two links posted are relevant to the discussion.

Why don't you start using your own words and thoughts for a change and stop with the paste and copy bullshit

Listen you ignorant fuckwad. Those links showed that cops DO have options when dealing with someone holding a knife.

letting everyone else do your thinking.

Oh, the irony.

You have never had an original thought your entire life.

What an assclown you are.

But hey - what's the point arguing with the "cops are gods and can do no wrong" cabal?

None when you are a criminals, inner city zoo animals and drug addicts are gods and can do no wrong cabal. So F' off, Sonny.

ESAD boot-licker

Stated from a Hypo needle and bong licker.

ROFLMAO!

Obviously that is just a nervous laugh by you, Pete, to cover up your ignorance.

Police Officers are tried and convicted when there is sufficient evidence presented to charge and convict them. That is the American way.

For you and any other non-believer, here are just a few of the cases I quickly looked up:

Officer Jason Blackwelder had evidence presented against him that he shot a perp in the back of the head. Blackwelder was charged by a grand jury for manslaughter and making false statements. He was convicted in a jury trial.

A South Carolina police officer has been charged with murder after a video of shooting a black man running away from him became public - months after previous cases of police killings.

In Baltimore, Police Officer Tommy Sanders was indicted for voluntary manslaughter while on duty when he shot and killed Edward Lamont Hunt.

More recently, two police officers in Albuquerque, New Mexico, have been charged with first degree murder after shooting a homeless man in the hills behind the city as he appeared to surrender, and a policeman in Alabama faces assault charges after shoving an Indian man to the ground, partially paralysing him.

Last September, Jonathan Ferrell, 24, a former college football player, was shot by Officer Randall Kerrick as he attempted to get help after being involved a car crash late at night in Charlotte, North Carolina.

As I stated, these are just some of the instances where police are arrested or charged for violent incidents related to their police work … there are more.

You have a problem, Pete. The problem you, Deckard, and all the other cop-hating assholes have is that you want to see EVERY officer brought to trial and convicted for EVERY police shooting.

Well, dickhead, I have some flash news for all of you … IT AIN”T GONNA HAPPEN YOUR WAY.

So, learn to live with it …

You have never had an original thought your entire life.

Wrong.

I "originally thought" thought that you were an idiot the first time I read a post by you.

See how wrong you always are.

I am not an assclown, as you say ... I am a purveyor of truth.

And a founding member of the fabulous Canary Clan ... known for truth and justice.

The Canary Clan is charged with the responsibility to search impartially for the facts or actualities of a subject or situation. It is eminently qualified to perform this charge by devoting considerable time, deep reflection, careful deliberation, and serious consultation to approach decisions without any particular ideology or agenda. The Canary Clan has a commitment to respect precedent, fairness and a determination to faithfully present the facts.You gotta walk that lonesome valley. Long live freedom of speech, long live the Canary Clan and God Bless America!

Obviously that is just a nervous laugh by you, Pete, to cover up your ignorance.

I'm not the one that is ignorant,and truth to tell,I don't think you are ignorant on this issue,either. I think you are just in kneejerk coverup mode.

Yeah,an occasional cop is charged,tried,and convicted of crimes,but it is always when there are witnesses and photographic/film proof that can't be denied or covered up that the cop is guilty beyond all doubt.

Police departments are NOT known for taking hard looks for any evidence of the crimes committed by their own cops.

Why don't you start using your own words and thoughts for a change and stop with the paste and copy bullshit?

I repeat:

Why don't you start using your own words and thoughts for a change and stop with the paste and copy bullshit?

Police departments are NOT known for taking hard looks for any evidence of the crimes committed by their own cops.

And you can speak for all police departments in general because you've worked for how many PD's? Shit, you are so f'in stupid you don't even realize that you responded to me from a post Gatlin posted to you.

Take your geriatric vitamins.... your showing signs of dementia.

Yeah,an occasional cop is charged,tried,and convicted of crimes,but it is always when there are witnesses and photographic/film proof that can't be denied or covered up that the cop is guilty beyond all doubt.

Wait, Pete … think about what you just posted.

You stated “they are charged, tried and convicted of crimes but it is always when there are witness and (evidence) … that can’t be denied.”

Hell’s bells, Pete … you have just described the American system of justice.

It is as you say, there MUST be evident to charge, try and convict.

If there in no evidence of guilt, then there can charge, trial or conviction.

Do you expect an officer to be charged, tried and convicted when there is NO evidence, or not enough evidence, to convict?

Of course not … at least, I hope not.

And you can speak for all police departments in general because you've worked for how many PD's?

Why would I have even wanted to work for a PD? I have no interest in playing at being a soldier because I was an actual soldier in earlier life,and I am not lazy or afraid of work.

You can pretend to be a macho man all you want,but we all know the truth.

You stated “they are charged, tried and convicted of crimes but it is always when there are witness and (evidence) … that can’t be denied.”

Hell’s bells, Pete … you have just described the American system of justice.

No,I didn't. In reality MANY innocent people are manipulated to plead guilty to a lesser crime they never committed because they can't afford to hire a good lawyer to defend them against a more serious crime they didn't commit.

Not all,but too many cops don't care about guilty or innocent. All they care about is racking up arrests and convictions.

What I described IS the way it should be for everyone,but people with badges and without connections rarely get those considerations. Many innocents are arrested on just the tiniest suspicion,while cops never get arrested unless there is slam dunk evidence of guilt THAT CAN NOT BE SHOVED UNDER THE CARPET BECAUSE IT HAS GONE PUBLIC.

The whole damn war on drugs is based on a system of extortion and official theft of property for profit.

Hell’s bells, Pete … you have just described the American system of justice.

Except when Stinky Peter Puffer is talking about cops... then they shouldn't be given due process or and benefit of doubt. He's a hypocritical agenda posting sucker of drug addict balls.

Why would I have even wanted to work for a PD? I have no interest in

Then stop speaking about them (or for them) like you have some worldly knowledgable police crystal ball wedged up your ass.

TRUE.