
Justice Scalia, love him or hate him, was perhaps the most staunchly Constitutional Supreme Court justice we had.
Now hes dead and not even two months later, the Supreme Court has approved new rules that would allow the FBI to not only hack any computer in the U.S., but around the globe. Legally.
In an April 28th letter to Congress, a change to Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 41 was approved:
A magistrate judge with authority in any district where activities related to a crime may have occurred has authority to issue a warrant to use remote access to search electronic storage media and to seize or copy electronically stored information located within or outside that district if: (A) the district where the media or information is located has been concealed through technological means; or (B) in an investigation of a violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1030(a)(5), the media are protected computers that have been damaged without authorization and are located in five or more districts.
Warrants to gain remote access in other words, government hacking to include computers that have been concealed through technological means such as TOR technology.
And it isnt just relegated to crime suspects who they get a warrant against (via RT):
Currently, magistrate judges cannot issue warrants for remote searches to the FBI if law enforcement doesnt know where a computer in question is physically located, since its location could potentially be outside of the courts jurisdiction.
Not only does the new rule change that, it also could allow the FBI to gain access to computers that have been already hacked by malicious software, meaning that victims of cyberattacks could see their computers searched by the government. If a computer is suspected to be part of compromised network, that network could also be searched. If a computer is ultimately located overseas but hidden via Tor, then authorities may potentially be able to hack into it as well.
Warrants for remote government searches of any computer Legally.
You know who mightve had a problem with that? Justice Scalia.
Wonder how long itll be until we get to Minority Report - style pre-crime?
Congress has until December to stop this, but they can also tweak it or approve it considering they have a nine percent approval rating, Im not holding my breath.
But hey, at least one whole Senator is bothering to pretend to care:
However, not everyone is buying the Justice Departments argument. Senator Ron Wyden (D-Oregon) questioned the wisdom of the changes to Rule 41, adding that he will ask the government to detail its hacking process. He also said he will propose legislation to reverse the amendments.
These amendments will have significant consequences for Americans privacy and the scope of the governments powers to conduct remote surveillance and searches of electronic devices, he said Thursday in a statement. Under the proposed rules, the government would now be able to obtain a single warrant to access and search thousands or millions of computers at once; and the vast majority of the affected computers would belong to the victims, not the perpetrators, of a cybercrime.
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#1: nolu chan To: Deckard (#0)
This is not done by the U.S. Supreme Court but by the Judicial Conference of the United States, pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 331. Scalia, J. would have had nothing to do with it had he been alive.
Roberts, CJ letter of April 28, 2016:
28 U.S.C. § 331
nolu chan posted on 2016-05-02 14:18:52 Reply Private Reply
#2: goodnessmarlok To: Deckard (#0)
goodnessmarlok posted on 2016-05-02 16:00:58 Reply Private Reply
#3: goldilucky To: Deckard (#0)
Also, see here concerning The Judicial Conference of the United States unders section "Duty Station" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_federal_judge
Also, you have a right to remain silent and to invoke the fruit of poisoned tree doctrine.
I'd be curious to know what Article (Article I, III or IV) this Judicial Conference actually falls under and who created it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_tribunals_in_the_United_States
Could not the case of Expo Facto law be addressed as question of original intent or brought into Federal Judicial Review?
goldilucky posted on 2016-05-02 16:28:13 Reply Private Reply
#4: nolu chan To: goldilucky, goodnessmarlok, Deckard (#3)
The rule change says nothing of worldwide hacking. It refers to warrant application outside the judicial district. The last underlined portion indicates that refers to judicial districts outside the district of the court.
nolu chan posted on 2016-05-02 17:12:35 Reply Private Reply
#5: goldilucky To: nolu chan (#4)
Might want to read this carefully under "Review by an Article III tribunal"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_magistrate_judge
goldilucky posted on 2016-05-02 18:18:43 Reply Private Reply
#6: nolu chan To: goldilucky, Deckard (#3)
It was created by Congress and falls under the Judicial Branch, Article III.
http://law.justia.com/codes/us/2013/title-28/part-i/chapter-15/section-331/
http://law.justia.com/codes/us/2013/title-28/part-v/chapter-131/section-2071/
nolu chan posted on 2016-05-03 01:42:09 Reply Private Reply
#7: nolu chan To: goldilucky (#5)
No, I made no reference to that at all. Chief Justice John Roberts wrote of the draft materials submitted to the Court for its consideration pursuant to Section 331 of Title 28, United States Code.
I don't know what point you are trying to make.
The sole topic of the article is a revision of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure, and discussion has largely focused on revision of Rule 41(b), which pertains to search and seizure, authority to issue a warrant, and what the warrant may cover.
Rule 41, in relevant part, previously read:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcrmp/rule_41
nolu chan posted on 2016-05-03 01:43:57 Reply Private Reply
#8: BobCeleste To: Deckard (#0)
BobCeleste posted on 2016-05-03 08:40:33 Reply Private Reply
#9: BobCeleste To: goldilucky (#3)
All good points, but right now I think it is more important to first know how to either protect or infect any computer hacking into ours.
Then we can fight the legal fight.
So my call to techies, is How do we protect ours and/or infect those hacking into ours?
BobCeleste posted on 2016-05-03 08:47:37 Reply Private Reply
#10: goldilucky To: nolu chan (#7)
"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_magistrate_judge"
is that the Magistrate Judge can be legally and lawfully challenged because they really do not have those plenary powers to decide your case. Jurisdiction is key in both the subject matter but mostly over you and it all simplifies down to what Article this Magistrate is conducting themselves under which most courts would agree that you can challenge.
goldilucky posted on 2016-05-03 14:20:06 Reply Private Reply
#11: goldilucky To: BobCeleste (#9)
goldilucky posted on 2016-05-03 14:20:27 Reply Private Reply
#12: nolu chan To: goldilucky (#10)
The opinion of every court short of the U.S. Supreme Court may be challenged. It is called an appeal. I still do not understand your point. The point on thread applies only to the granting of a search warrant. A warrant can be challenged. What has this to do with the revision of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure?
nolu chan posted on 2016-05-03 19:22:33 Reply Private Reply
#13: goldilucky To: nolu chan (#12)
First, since the Judiciary Act of 1789,19 it has been evident that not all of the categories of judicial power enumerated in Article III, section 2 must be decided by Article III judges. (pg. 6 of 69) "Yale Law School Legal Scholarship Repository Faculty Scholarship
1-1-1985 The Mythic Meaning of Article III Courts"
goldilucky posted on 2016-05-04 15:01:50 Reply Private Reply
#14: nolu chan To: goldilucky (#13)
The article is about a change to the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure. Those rules apply only to Article III courts within the Judicial branch.
Judicial courts are Article III courts. Magistrate judges are not Article III judges as they do not have a lifetime appointment.
Article I courts are uniquely creatures of the Executive Branch, for example courts-martial. The rules for Executive Branch proceedings are not made by the Judicial Branch. For courts-martial, see Manual for Courts-Martial. The Manual is issued by the President under an Executive Order. There are no magistrate judges in an Article I court.
http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/codification/executive-order/12473.html
https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/06/13/executive-order-2014-amendments-manual-courts-martial-united-states
Military Tribunals are also creatures of the Executive Branch under Article I. They make up their own rules before the proceeding is held.
https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCODE-2011-title28/pdf/USCODE-2011-title28-partV-chap131-sec2071.pdf
CHAPTER 131RULES OF COURTS
28 U.S.C. § 2071
Congress established the Article III courts, but not the Article I courts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Rules_of_Criminal_Procedure
There is no such thing as Article IV court. The article does authorize the creation of any court.
nolu chan posted on 2016-05-04 15:59:44 Reply Private Reply
#15: goldilucky To: nolu chan (#14)
Not all Judicial Courts are Article III. Mag Judges may not have a lifetime appointment but it sure appears they have been conducting court business under Article III.
And since you reference this "Executive Order -- 2014 Amendments to the Manual for Courts-Martial, United States ", it appears that when a private citizen is being summoned under this Executive Order that actually it is a military court venue.
goldilucky posted on 2016-05-04 16:23:40 Reply Private Reply
#16: nolu chan To: goldilucky (#15)
Private citizens are not subject to courts-martial.
nolu chan posted on 2016-05-04 16:31:51 Reply Private Reply
#17: goldilucky To: nolu chan (#16)
goldilucky posted on 2016-05-04 16:36:04 Reply Private Reply
#18: nolu chan To: goldilucky (#15)
What do you have in mind?
Article 1, Section 3:
http://www.fjc.gov/history/home.nsf/page/judges_magistrate.html
Federal judicial Center
Magistrate Judgeships
Magistrate judges serve in the U.S. District Courts which are, most definitely, Article III courts. Their jurisdiction is delegated by the District Judges.
Of course they conduct court business in Article III courts, the Federal District Courts.
nolu chan posted on 2016-05-04 16:40:38 Reply Private Reply
#19: nolu chan To: goldilucky (#17)
Because you reference Article I courts which are not governed by the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure, the subject of the article.
The primary difference is that Article I courts have no relevance to the thread topic.
The rules for Article I courts are not issued by the Judicial Branch.
nolu chan posted on 2016-05-04 16:45:12 Reply Private Reply
#20: goldilucky To: nolu chan (#19)
Perhaps, this will explain where I am getting at: www.apfn.net/messageboard/01-18-01 /mbs.cgi.680.html
Judges are actually bound to Article IV which conflicts with Article III. Furthermore, Article IV is a Commercial court. Whereas Article III are Constitutional Courts under a Republic. What actually has been happening is that court business has been conducted under Article I (such as filing of Complaints against Judges) which then go to the Judge Division Admin Office of U.S. Courts in Washington D.C. which is an Article IV branch.
goldilucky posted on 2016-05-04 17:48:47 Reply Private Reply