John F. MacArthur Sermons Sermons from 1 Thessalonians
https://www.gty.org/resources/sermons/scripture/1-thessalonians
What Happens to Christians Who Die?, Part 1 October 14, 1990 1 Thessalonians 4:13-14 52-17 Free Download: High Low Listen
What Happens to Christians Who Die?, Part 2 October 21, 1990 1 Thessalonians 4:15-18 52-18 Free Download: High Low Listen
The Day of the Lord, Part 1 November 18, 1990 1 Thessalonians 5:1-2 52-19 Free Download: High Low Listen
The Day of the Lord, Part 2 December 2, 1990 1 Thessalonians 5:3 52-20 Free Download: High Low 1 2
#1: Don To: All (#0)
Don posted on 2016-04-28 12:05:10 Reply Private Reply
#2: Fred Mertz To: Don (#0)
Fred Mertz posted on 2016-04-28 12:06:54 Reply Private Reply
#3: rlk To: Don (#0)
They're typically buried under a heavy piece of rock.
rlk posted on 2016-04-28 12:17:23 Reply Private Reply
#4: Don To: Fred Mertz (#2)
Don posted on 2016-04-28 12:43:53 Reply Private Reply
#5: Pinguinite To: Don (#4)
There is a massive difference, to be sure.
Pinguinite posted on 2016-04-28 13:43:16 Reply Private Reply
#6: sneakypete To: Don (#0)
Very,very,very long dirt nap?
sneakypete posted on 2016-04-28 14:30:54 Reply Private Reply
#7: sneakypete To: Don (#4)
One is very real and the other is just a figment of the imagination?
Not that there is anything wrong with that. If it makes you happy to think you have a soul and it will go to a place called Heaven,go for it. I see the attraction,but don't see any reality.
sneakypete posted on 2016-04-28 14:34:00 Reply Private Reply
#8: Don To: sneakypete (#7)
Don posted on 2016-04-28 15:12:57 Reply Private Reply
#9: sneakypete To: Don (#8)
I think it is more a case of some of us see reality in a different manner than others.
sneakypete posted on 2016-04-28 17:34:00 Reply Private Reply
#10: SOSO To: Don, All (#0)
The much more interesting question is What Happens To Christians That Don't Die?
SOSO posted on 2016-04-28 18:10:46 Reply Private Reply
#11: Don To: SOSO (#10)
Don posted on 2016-04-28 20:10:29 Reply Private Reply
#12: Don To: sneakypete (#9)
Don posted on 2016-04-28 20:11:05 Reply Private Reply
#13: Fred Mertz To: Don (#4)
Based on my upbringing, yes I do. The soul is eternal and the body is worm food.
I guess we'll find out.
Fred Mertz posted on 2016-04-28 20:21:59 Reply Private Reply
#14: Don To: Fred Mertz (#13)
Don posted on 2016-04-28 20:56:46 Reply Private Reply
#15: Fred Mertz To: Don (#14)
I listened for a little bit, thanks.
Fred Mertz posted on 2016-04-28 21:46:58 Reply Private Reply
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Don posted on 2016-04-28 22:10:10 Reply Private Reply
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Fred Mertz posted on 2016-04-28 22:16:10 Reply Private Reply
#18: SOSO To: Don (#11)
The Church dies? The Church lives? The "rapture of the church" is a misnomer as it does not refer to the Church itself but to the corpus of Christians.
I am talking about people, specifically Christians, and, in the context of the article which asks "What Happens to Christians Who Die?. I was mocking the question. All people die {or are radically changed}, including Christians referred to in described in 1 Thessalonians 4:14-17:
"The Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the archangel's call, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first; then we who are alive, who are left, shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and so we shall always be with the Lord."
In this context the question is nonsensical. Dead Christians will rise and be joined by the then living Christians both being transformed to a different existence. What need is there for the Church after that?
SOSO posted on 2016-04-28 23:30:42 Reply Private Reply
#19: Don To: SOSO (#18)
Don posted on 2016-04-29 09:02:23 Reply Private Reply