On Sunday night’s episode of 60 Minutes, former Florida governor, Democratic U.S. Senator and onetime chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, Bob Graham will implicate the US ally on national television.

“I think it’s implausible to believe that 19 people, most of whom didn’t speak English, most of whom had never been in the United States before, many didn’t have a high school education, could have carried out such a complicated task without some support from within the United States,” says Graham in the clip.

The guy must be a kook.

The guy must be a kook.

He's attention-whoring. And this is a very sensationalist piece, starting with the headline, a tabloid grabber headline known as a clickbait.

I glanced through the article and found nothing I haven't seen a thousand times before in your many Truthiness articles.

These 19 hijackers, devout religious fundamentalists who liked to drink alcohol, snort cocaine, and live with pink-haired strippers, managed to knock down 3 buildings with 2 planes in New York, while in Washington a pilot who couldn’t handle a single engine Cessna was able to fly a 757 in an 8,000 foot descending 270 degree corskscrew turn to come exactly level with the ground, hitting the Pentagon in the budget analyst office where DoD staffers were working on the mystery of the 2.3 trillion dollars that Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld had announced “missing” from the Pentagon’s coffers in a press conference the day before, on September 10, 2001.

Luckily, the news anchors knew who did it within minutes, the pundits knew within hours, the Administration knew within the day, and the evidence literally fell into the FBI’s lap. But for some reason a bunch of crazy conspiracy theorists demanded an investigation into the greatest attack on American soil in history.

The investigation was delayed, underfunded, set up to fail, a conflict of interest and a cover up from start to finish. It was based on testimony extracted through torture, the records of which were destroyed. It failed to mention the existence of WTC7, Able Danger, Ptech, Sibel Edmonds, OBL and the CIA, and the drills of hijacked aircraft being flown into buildings that were being simulated at the precise same time that those events were actually happening.

It was lied to by the Pentagon, the CIA, the Bush Administration and as for Bush and Cheney…well, no one knows what they told it because they testified in secret, off the record, not under oath and behind closed doors. It didn’t bother to look at who funded the attacks because that question is of “little practical significance“.

Still, the 9/11 Commission did brilliantly, answering all of the questions the public had (except most of the victims’ family members’ questions) and pinned blame on all the people responsible (although no one so much as lost their job), determining the attacks were “a failure of imagination” because “I don’t think anyone could envision flying airplanes into buildings ” except the Pentagon and FEMA and NORAD and the NRO.

These 19 hijackers, devout blah-blah-blah...

You've been posting this old boilerplate of links for so long that you seem unaware that some of its links have gone dead.

I wonder how many times you've posted it, over and over, at various sites.

I suppose you have it stored in textfiles, ready for quick copy-paste use. Do you have it indexed? Do you have a variety of similar linkbait summaries ready to go, just to provide some variety?

Bob Graham will implicate the US ally on national television.

We knew that Saudi Arabia was involved the day it happened, 9/11. When do the treason trials and hangings start?

If the Saudi's were "support", then who was in charge?

Likely suspects.

I notice that you are usually one of the first to post on threads concerning 9/11.

Yet, in all the times you have posted, you have never even attempted to dispute the claims made.

It's always shoot the messenger, call anyone who disputes the official narrative a "kook", and basically shill for the fed.gov.

It's the same with all of you Official 9/11 Fairy Tale cultists.

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It's always shoot the messenger, call anyone who disputes the official narrative a "kook", and basically shill for the fed.gov.

There's nothing wrong with calling kooks kooks.

Would you be happier if I called it "kookery-challenged"?

I glanced through the article and found nothing I haven't seen a thousand times before in your many Truthiness articles.

Anybody that doesn't think the Bush Crime Family didn't help cover up Saudi involvement in the 9-11's attacks is delusional.

No,I am NOT saying they helped the Saudi's commit the attack,or that they knew in advance it would happen. What I AM stating is the clear truth that the entire Bush Crime Family is in business with the Sauds as minor players. When they saw proof of Saudi involvement,they covered it up and shifted blame to Saddam Hussein,who WAS a threat to the Saud royal family.

When do the treason trials and hangings start?

The 31st of Never.

Just like some banks are too big to fall,some politicians are too big to fall.

Anybody that doesn't think the Bush Crime Family didn't help cover up Saudi involvement in the 9-11's attacks is delusional.

conspiracy theories abound and we know the Bushs have strong relationships with the Saudi but if there is evidence why have they not been indicted for treason?

conspiracy theories abound and we know the Bushs have strong relationships with the Saudi but if there is evidence why have they not been indicted for treason?

Why wasn't Bubba impeached?

The reasons are the same even though the crimes are different.

Like banks,some politicians are too big to fall.

Nixon wasn't too big to fail

There's nothing wrong with calling kooks kooks.

Until now, anyone who questioned the highly suspect ‘official’ narrative on the 9/11 attacks has been labeled a conspiracy theorist or a kook. But when current and former members of Congress, U.S. officials, and the 9/11 Commissioners themselves call for the release of these 28-pages, which tells a different story of what happened that fateful day, people will listen.

More "kooks"?

220+ Senior Military, Intelligence, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials Question the 9/11 Commission Report

1500+ Engineers and Architects Question the 9/11 Commission Report

400+ Pilots and Aviation Professionals Question the 9/11 Commission Report

250+ Pilots and Aviation Professionals Question the 9/11 Commission Report

300+ 9/11 Survivors and Family Members Question the 9/11 Commission Report

More "kooks"?

Yep.

More "kooks"?

Yep.

Attaboy!

Keep believing the government fairy tales.

Simpleton.

You can muster all the expertise and evidence that a man can lay is hands on, but there will continue to be those that will pour cold water on any rational objections to the official fairy story.

For some of them it is, I believe, more than a mere avocation.

History will regard it as misprision of treason.

Thanks for your efforts, Deckard.

Well, then here we are, a simpleton and a kook.

Fine with me. You lose by default. You see, there is this thing called a marketplace of ideas. Yours have lost.

Your 40th post since signing up here on 3/3/16. Congrats.

I see you stopped posting at 4um on 1/31/16 on a Cliven Bundy thread. Too dead over there or just tired of the same-old, same-old?

You see, there is this thing called a marketplace of ideas.

You see, there is this thing called the truth.

And government shills like you will continue to deny it.

Yours have lost.

New Poll Finds Most Americans Open to Alternative 9/11 Theories

One in Two Surveyed Have Doubts About Government’s Account of 9/11.On the 12^th anniversary of 9/11, a new national survey by the polling firm YouGov reveals that one in two Americans have doubts about the government’s account of 9/11, and after viewing video footage of World Trade Center Building 7’s collapse, 46% suspect that it was caused by a controlled demolition. Building 7, a 47-story skyscraper, collapsed into its own footprint late in the afternoon on 9/11.

The poll was sponsored by ReThink911, a global public awareness campaign launched on September 1. The campaign includes a 54-foot billboard in Times Square and a variety of transit and outdoor advertising in 11 other cities, all posing the question, “Did you know a third tower fell on 9/11?”

Among the poll’s findings:

• 38% of Americans have some doubts about the official account of 9/11, 10% do not believe it at all, and 12% are unsure about it;
• 46%, nearly one in two, are not aware that a third tower collapsed on 9/11. Of those who are aware of Building 7’s collapse, only 19% know the building’s name;
• After seeing video footage of Building 7′s collapse:
  • 46% are sure or suspect it was caused by controlled demolition, compared to 28% who are sure or suspect fires caused it, and 27% who don’t know; [in other words, more people think controlled demolition than believe the government’s narrative]
  • By a margin of nearly two to one, 41% support a new investigation of Building 7′s collapse, compared to 21% who oppose it.

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    The polls that have received the most widespread media attention are those conducted by Zogby International. The Zogby polls have been sponsored by organizations within the 9/11 Truth Movement including 911truth.org.

    The first one was conducted in late August 2004 on 808 randomly selected residents of New York State. It found that 49 percent of New York City residents and 41 percent of New York state citizens believe individuals within the U.S. government "knew in advance that attacks were planned on or around September 11, 2001, and that they consciously failed to act."^[4] The margin of error for this poll was 3.5 percent.

    The second major Zogby poll on 9/11 was conducted in May 2006. It was a telephone interview of 1,200 randomly selected adults from across the United States, consisting of 81 questions, with a 2.9 percent margin of error.^[5] Some of the questions asked include the following:

    "Some people believe that the US government and its 9/11 Commission concealed or refused to investigate critical evidence that contradicts their official explanation of the September 11th attacks, saying there has been a cover-up. Others say that the 9/11 Commission was a bi-partisan group of honest and well-respected people and that there is no reason they would want to cover-up anything. Who are you more likely to agree with?"

    • Responses: 48% No Cover-up / 42% Cover-up / 10% Not sure

    "World Trade Center Building 7 is the 47-story skyscraper that was not hit by any planes during the September 11th attacks, but still totally collapsed later the same day. This collapse was not investigated by the 9/11 Commission. Are you aware of this skyscraper's collapse, and if so do you believe that the Commission should have also investigated it? Or do you believe that the Commission was right to only investigate the collapse of the buildings which were directly hit by airplanes?"

    • Responses: 43% Not Aware / 38% Aware - should have investigated it / 14% Aware - right not to investigate it / 5% Not Sure

    "Some people say that so many unanswered questions about 9/11 remain that Congress or an International Tribunal should re-investigate the attacks, including whether any US government officials consciously allowed or helped facilitate their success. Other people say the 9/11 attacks were thoroughly investigated and that any speculation about US government involvement is nonsense. Who are you more likely to agree with?"

    • Responses: 47% Attacks were thoroughly investigated / 45% Reinvestigate the attacks / 8% Not Sure

I expected more from you than a real cheap shot.

Ain't had time to post much of anywheres lately. Some of us work for a living. Gotta get a shower and go.

Cheers, TC.

You can muster all the expertise and evidence that a man can lay is hands on, but there will continue to be those that will pour cold water on any rational objections to the official fairy story.

Unfortunately, TC is a prime example of that syndrome - willful ignorance.

Or maybe it's more than that, perhaps cognitive dissonance.

“Sometimes people hold a core belief that is very strong. When they are presented with evidence that works against that belief, the new evidence cannot be accepted. It would create a feeling that is extremely uncomfortable, called cognitive dissonance. And because it is so important to protect the core belief, they will rationalize, ignore and even deny anything that doesn’t fit in with the core belief.” - Frantz Fanon

willful ignorance . . . cognitive dissonance

It's something worse than both put together.

New Poll Finds Most Americans Open to Alternative 9/11 Theories

You mean, a cheesy YouGov poll that was paid for by Truthers and which the YouGov hacks knew had to produce results indicating 99% of the public are actually Truthers?

LOL

I expected more from you than a real cheap shot.

I don't see why it is a cheap shot of any kind.

Most of us have had accounts at LP/LF/4um and TOS. Seeing who is posting where isn't a cheap shot. We've all known each other online for some years.

You mean, a cheesy YouGov poll

Oh - I didn't realize that Zogby was a biased source.

Plenty of other reputable polls that refute your claim that "You see, there is this thing called a marketplace of ideas. Yours have lost. "

Those of your dishonest ilk are in the minority now. Which in fact makes you and the other Fairy Tale cultists the real "kooks".

Deal with it.

Nixon wasn't too big to fail

Only because he was a Republican when the left was taking over control of our government.

And when it comes to crimes,his were the equivalent of illegal parking compared to what the various Bush's and Clinton's have done and gotten away with. Not to mention the racist in the WH now.

Plenty of other reputable polls that refute your claim that "You see, there is this thing called a marketplace of ideas. Yours have lost. "

I checked these other polls that supposedly support Truthy positions.

Invariably, they were bankrolled by Truther groups and a few by Alex Jones.

This is my total lack of surprise.

Those pollsters know what result is desired and who is paying the bill.

And your problem is you will never be content to stop with the mere truth,you have to build a whole fantasy conspiracy theory around it.

Was the Bush Crime Family or any official in the US Government involved in making or planning the attacks on 9-11? No,they weren't. THERE is your major fail,and I have zero doubt paranoids like you (being paranoid is not the stigma today it used to be if you can keep it under control. You can't),have been hand few tidbits of misinformation so you get the bit between your teeth and run with it. NOTHING protects the actuality of criminal conduct by government than paranoia gone nuclear,and wild claims so out of touch with reality they are laughable by rational people.

Was the Bush Crime Family and people in government involved in covering up the Saud involvement and the further crime of blaming Saddam Hussein for it to justify an illegal war to remove him from power and make the Saud family safer?

I would say that is an almost certainty. Maybe on the order of 99 percent certainty. Nobody is going to listen to that thanks to the disinformation conspiracy theory fans have been fed and spread,though.

The theory is to tell a big lie to hide a smaller lie,and it works.

Was the Bush Crime Family or any official in the US Government involved in making or planning the attacks on 9-11? No,they weren't.

....as for Bush and Cheney…well, no one knows what they told it because they testified in secret, off the record, not under oath and behind closed doors.

The neocons in charge at that time used 9/11 as a pretext to start a war in the middle east.

Ever heard of the "Project for a New American Century"?

What a shame.

At the very, very least, you'll have to admit that the 9/11 attacks were allowed to happen.

The theory is to tell a big lie to hide a smaller lie,and it works.

Well you got one thing right - the "official narrative" is one big lie after another.

Invariably, they were bankrolled by Truther groups

The Zogby and Rasmussen polls were bankrolled by "truther groups"?

Your insanity continues unabated.

The Zogby and Rasmussen polls were bankrolled by "truther groups"?

Nearly every commericial pollster except Gallup and Pew are hired guns for someone.

Yes, if you have the money, you can go pay for them to conduct a poll for you.

What, you didn't realize they were for-profit businesses who seek clients?

Wake up.

Yes, if you have the money, you can go pay for them to conduct a poll for you.

Guess what? That doesn't make the polls dishonest.

The fact remains - you and the other cultists are now the so-called "kooks".

Wake up.

I am awake shill.

You need to stop drinking the fed.gov, MSM kool-aid.

The neocons in charge at that time used 9/11 as a pretext to start a war in the middle east.

There can be no question about that. Or about who paid for it and why.

The thing is when you throw a few truths in with a hell of a lot of bold speculation,what you do is weaken the power of the truth,not make the speculation look more likely to be fact.

Wake up.

I am awake shill.

You need to stop drinking the fed.gov, MSM kool-aid.

And that is where your well-meaning train leaves the tracks.

Guess what? That doesn't make the polls dishonest.

He who pays the piper...

I'm impressed. Tell what dirt you have on the Harrison "assassination."

Everybody thought it was natural causes. Of course, that's what they want you to believe....

At the very, very least, you'll have to admit that the 9/11 attacks were allowed to happen.

for that to be true, then it must be proven that they were known about with certainty and if that were so, an act of treason was committed. We do know that it was known an attack was planned but beyond that...

The fact remains - you and the other cultists are now the so-called "kooks".

This is increasingly true, and bit by bit, we see the shoe on the other foot.

Today I find that reasonably schooled young people are not apt to simply dismiss non-conventional questions and non-conventional explanations of the events of 911. Indeed, I experience more and more that young people are cautiously asking me what I think in a way that suggest that they reject the official mythology and want to see if an older effer is on board with them.

The Big Wheel turns inexorably.