I will not vote for cruz!

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Published: Mar 23, 2016
Author: Bob Celeste
Post Date: 2016-03-23 21:01:16 by BobCeleste
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After what cruz did, I will never vote for him. Never in my 72 years do I ever remember a candidate posting a picture, in his ad, of another candidates wife.

Cruz is pond scum. Compared to Cruz, Clinton is a lady.

nominate whom you want, but, if it is Donald Trump I will vote Republican, if it is cruz I will blank the race.


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As for those who say "That is a vote for Hillary" I say SO What, yes, she is a horrible liar but, Cruz is worse.

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#16: Tooconservative    To: BobCeleste (#12)

nominate who yu choose, but I will never vote for cruz.

I think you were just looking for some excuse to dramatically announce your never-Cruz position.

And there are at least 10 times as many never-Trumpers than there are never-Cruzers (if such things actually matter). Not that I think they do, at least not in the pre-convention primary season.

Tooconservative posted on 2016-03-24 11:03:32   Reply   Private Reply


#17: Justified    To: BobCeleste (#0)

As for those who say "That is a vote for Hillary" I say SO What, yes, she is a horrible liar but, Cruz is worse.

Childish. No Cruz is not worse or even in the same world.

The only 2 candidates worth the trip to the poles are Trump and Cruz. The only 2 people fighting the establishment are Trump and Cruz. There is enough mud being thrown on both sides.

I get everyone wants their guy but OMG why the GOP needs enemies when we fight each other till no one is viable.

Give me Trump and I will pull the lever. Give me Cruz and I will pull the lever. Other than that im going to watch this country implode from my couch.

Justified posted on 2016-03-24 11:40:16   Reply   Private Reply


#18: calcon    To: BobCeleste (#0)

What a bunch of prissy little ladies on this forum! The whiners should realize that beautiful women have no time to waste on little cry babies.

Trump has melania and they have there butt ugly old ladies.

calcon posted on 2016-03-24 12:26:47   Reply   Private Reply


#19: Fred Mertz    To: BobCeleste, Stoner, TooConservative, hondo68 (#0)

Joke:

A Cuban, a Canadian & white supremacist walk into a bar.

The bartender says, "Welcome Senator Cruz, what are you having today?"

Note: Just received this via email and thought I'd share it.

Fred Mertz posted on 2016-03-24 15:49:08   Reply   Private Reply


#20: BobCeleste    To: TooConservative (#16)

And there are at least 10 times as many never-Trumpers than there are never-Cruzers

Sounds good, but so very untrue. Look at the number of votes and delegates Trump has vs crus, look at the number of people choosing Donald as second vs cruz, your statement is like cruz's when he said that he could beat hillary and Donald couldn't.

BobCeleste posted on 2016-03-24 16:49:27   Reply   Private Reply


#21: BobCeleste    To: Justified (#17)

Childish. No Cruz is not worse or even in the same world.

really? Then why has he sealed his records, does that remind you of another freshman senator?

But, here are two of our links you might, in an objective moment, read:

www.mainetv.net/cruz_is_a_liar.htm
www.mainetv.net/jim_buzzell_001.h tm

BobCeleste posted on 2016-03-24 17:02:26   Reply   Private Reply


#22: BobCeleste    To: calcon (#18)

true.

BobCeleste posted on 2016-03-24 17:03:39   Reply   Private Reply


#23: Tooconservative    To: Fred Mertz (#19)

The bartender says, "Welcome Senator Cruz, what are you having today?"

I guess it's witty enough though it is a big stretch to try to call Cruz a white supremacy type.

Tooconservative posted on 2016-03-24 17:07:51   Reply   Private Reply


#24: Tooconservative    To: BobCeleste (#20)

Sounds good, but so very untrue. Look at the number of votes and delegates Trump has vs crus, look at the number of people choosing Donald as second vs cruz, your statement is like cruz's when he said that he could beat hillary and Donald couldn't.

Trump's polling is even worse than Hitlery's is. At least, at present.

Unless Trump can turn out a huge mass of new voters that don't currently register in polling of registered voters or likely voters, it's hard to see how he can win. Even if you toss in a few wild card states where Trump might have unique appeal (NY, PA, FL).

Trump's polling against Hitlery is real bad, no matter how lousy and repellant she is as a nominee. Still, Trump has had big turnouts in these GOP primaries, driving primary turnout to new records. It isn't clear how many of these are new Trump voters and how many are just Republicans intent on voting.

I've yet to see any very good analysis of Trump's voter demographics by someone like Nate Silver of FiveThirtyEight, whether he's bringing out long-inactive GOP voters or grabbing up the old Perot voters (an easy grab for Trump that other GOP candidates can't compete with). It's probably some mix of active GOP voters, long-absent GOP voters, and the older Perot voters.

Tooconservative posted on 2016-03-24 17:21:01   Reply   Private Reply


#25: Stoner    To: TooConservative (#24)

" Trump's polling against Hitlery is real bad, "

I keep hearing that. But I do not believe it.

Stoner posted on 2016-03-24 18:02:18   Reply   Private Reply


#26: A K A Stone    To: BobCeleste (#0)

After what cruz did, I will never vote for him. Never in my 72 years do I ever remember a candidate posting a picture, in his ad, of another candidates wife.

It was a super pac. Not Ted Cruz. He may or may not have known about it. It would be illegal for him to work with the group that put out the ad. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. I would say he didn't. I could be wrong though.

A K A Stone posted on 2016-03-24 18:04:57   Reply   Private Reply


#27: A K A Stone    To: BobCeleste (#0)

SO What, yes, she is a horrible liar but, Cruz is worse.

Cruz is not worse then Hillary. That is silly.

A K A Stone posted on 2016-03-24 18:05:31   Reply   Private Reply


#28: Hondo68    To: Stoner (#25)

" Trump's polling against Hitlery is real bad, "

I keep hearing that. But I do not believe it.

Believe it, Trump has high disapproval numbers. He's more despised than even Hillary, but Jeb! is the most hated of all.

Bernie and Kasich kick Trump's ass too!

Hondo68 posted on 2016-03-24 18:35:35   Reply   Private Reply


#29: Tooconservative    To: hondo68, Stoner (#28)

Bernie and Kasich kick Trump's ass too!

Yeah, that bit about even Comrade Bernie beating Trump does make me doubt these polls somewhat.

Tooconservative posted on 2016-03-24 19:37:43   Reply   Private Reply


#30: BobCeleste    To: A K A Stone (#27)

Both are liars, but in my opinion cruz is worse. just fact check him for heavens sake. The guy is scum, he may not even be in the US legally.

www.mainetv.net/jim_buzzell_001.htm

BobCeleste posted on 2016-03-24 20:57:33   Reply   Private Reply


#31: BobCeleste    To: hondo68 (#28)

Bernie and Kasich kick Trump's ass too!

Do you ever think before you post this stuff?

How many primaries have there been? How many has Kasich won? How did Kasich do in Arizona, Florida, SC, MA, VT, ME etc.

BobCeleste posted on 2016-03-24 21:00:44   Reply   Private Reply


#32: BobCeleste    To: A K A Stone (#26)

AK, a super pac doesn't do anything without clearing with their candidate first, you know that.

Do you know anything about liz? have you seen the connections between liz and the Cruz's?

Cruz know and he didn't stop it, just like with Dr. Carson, for a lawyer he doesn't cove his trail very well.

BobCeleste posted on 2016-03-24 21:03:48   Reply   Private Reply


#33: BobCeleste    To: TooConservative (#24)

I've yet to see any very good analysis of Trump's voter demographics

You might want to look at the videos of one of his rallies.

old, young, black, white, Veterans, cops, firemen, doctors, nurses, models, sports guys, kind of like a picture of working USA.

How about Cruz, a handful of moromon leaders and a whole bunch of the most hated group in the country, the Establishment.

Hows that for demographics?

BobCeleste posted on 2016-03-24 21:09:09   Reply   Private Reply


#34: Hondo68    To: BobCeleste (#31)

Do you ever think before you post this stuff?

Do you ever think?

The primary results you're quoting are mostly from the REPUBLICAN zombie faithful. These are the people who nominated the last two losers, McCain and Mitt. Republicans aren't going to elect the next president. It will take independents, crossover democrats, and even people who've never voted before.

Nominating someone with high disapproval numbers, means that you're voting for Hillary, just like voting for McCain and Mitt meant that you're voting for Obama. See how that works?

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#35: BobCeleste    To: A K A Stone (#26)

" Trump's polling against Hitlery is real bad, "

I keep hearing that. But I do not believe it.

me either, momre than likely another cruz fabrication.

Now go add up the votes each ahs gotten in the primaries. Then think to yurself, if folks loved hillary and hated Donald as much as Cruz, the lying scum bag, claims, why are they leaving the hillary and the democratic party to come register as Republicans to vote for Mr. Trump?

BobCeleste posted on 2016-03-24 21:11:46   Reply   Private Reply


#36: Justified    To: BobCeleste (#21)

really? Then why has he sealed his records, does that remind you of another freshman senator?

Why would he? Give his enemies ammo? The man is not stupid!

Cruz backs up his talk with actions. Thats for all to see. He has pissed off the elites in both parties like no one else has. Not saying Trump will not back up his talk but I know Cruz has.

Justified posted on 2016-03-24 21:26:33   Reply   Private Reply


#37: A K A Stone    To: BobCeleste (#35)

me either, momre than likely another cruz fabrication.

Come on Cruz has nothing to do with the polling. Get real.

A K A Stone posted on 2016-03-24 21:30:09   Reply   Private Reply


#38: A K A Stone    To: BobCeleste (#32)

AK, a super pac doesn't do anything without clearing with their candidate first, you know that.

I don't know that.

I know it would be illegal to do that.

I'm not saying they wouldn't do it. I'm saying I don't know and neither do you.

A K A Stone posted on 2016-03-24 21:31:05   Reply   Private Reply


#39: A K A Stone    To: Pinguinite (#10)

I've been reading your pro Trump posts. Frankly I'm a little surprised you support him. I'm happy you do.

I guess Trump reaches all different types of people.

A K A Stone posted on 2016-03-24 21:32:38   Reply   Private Reply


#40: buckeroo    To: A K A Stone (#39)

I guess Trump reaches all different types of people.

Just so you know, Trump doesn't "reach" principled, free, liberty minded folks not chained to any rigid mantra other than the US Constitution as written.

So, to use three words criticizing your post: YOU ARE WRONG.

buckeroo posted on 2016-03-24 21:38:44   Reply   Private Reply


#41: Fred Mertz    To: A K A Stone (#39)

I guess Trump reaches all different types of people.

Yes, he is very entertaining, so you can count me in that category.

As a candidate, I can't stand him.

Fred Mertz posted on 2016-03-24 21:45:23   Reply   Private Reply


#42: A K A Stone    To: buckeroo (#40)

Just so you know, Trump doesn't "reach" principled, free, liberty minded folks not chained to any rigid mantra other than the US Constitution as written

A few points to your "post".

1. I am much smarter then you are.

2. My morals are higher then yours are.

3. I am a principled liberty minded person that is why I started Libertysflame and it is why I allow all types of people with different politics to post here. Unlike say Free Republic or The Daily KOS.

4. You are wrong and I am right as usual.

5. Pinguinite is principled. You just are angry that he banned you from LP.

A K A Stone posted on 2016-03-24 21:56:04   Reply   Private Reply


#43: A K A Stone    To: Fred Mertz (#41)

As a candidate, I can't stand him.

I wouldn't expect someone who praises something for nothing Sanders to support someone that doesn't promise free things. That is why you voted for Kasich. He promises Obamacare. Ok maybe that isn't the reason. But you still voted for a moron.

A K A Stone posted on 2016-03-24 21:57:37   Reply   Private Reply


#44: Fred Mertz    To: A K A Stone (#43)

Fred Mertz posted on 2016-03-24 22:00:50   Reply   Private Reply


#45: A K A Stone    To: Fred Mertz (#44)

But you still voted for a moron. Better than a Mormon, like you did.

I think they are tied.

I apologize for voting for Mitt Romney. It was my belief the he would be a little better then Obama.

If I could I would just run the country and we would prosper and be happy. But I would have only gotten one vote. Or maybe two.

A K A Stone posted on 2016-03-24 22:08:29   Reply   Private Reply


#46: buckeroo    To: A K A Stone (#42)

At the end of the day, you will use absolute power as a web-site administrator to enforce your peculiar dogma. But, your history of voting for GWBush, McCain and Romney ensures your position amoung REAL libertarians.

buckeroo posted on 2016-03-24 22:11:30   Reply   Private Reply


#47: Fred Mertz    To: A K A Stone (#45)

I apologize for voting for Mitt Romney.

How do you like that Trump endorsed rMoney in the last election?

Now rMoney is head of the anti-Trump attack team.

They're worse than whores fighting for street corner turf.

Do you see it yet?

Fred Mertz posted on 2016-03-24 22:19:51   Reply   Private Reply


#48: A K A Stone    To: buckeroo (#46)

amoung REAL libertarians.

I'm not a libertarian. I think libertarians are amoral idiots for the most part.

Better then democrats though.

A K A Stone posted on 2016-03-24 22:36:11   Reply   Private Reply


#49: A K A Stone    To: Fred Mertz (#47)

How do you like that Trump endorsed rMoney in the last election?

Now rMoney is head of the anti-Trump attack team.

They're worse than whores fighting for street corner turf.

Do you see it yet?

I don't care that Donald endorsed Mitt. It's not like he endorsed Obama. I know he praised Obama before. But that was just being polite.

Do I see what?

A K A Stone posted on 2016-03-24 22:37:28   Reply   Private Reply


#50: Fred Mertz    To: A K A Stone (#49)

Do I see what?

Fair enough, you answered my question. Thanks.

Fred Mertz posted on 2016-03-24 22:44:53   Reply   Private Reply


#51: A K A Stone    To: Fred Mertz (#50)

Do I see what? Fair enough, you answered my question. Thanks.

I know what you are getting at. Trump is a fake or no good.

But you didn't make a point at all.

Hey maybe Trump will suck. Maybe he is lying about everything. But then again maybe not.

A K A Stone posted on 2016-03-24 22:47:57   Reply   Private Reply


#52: Fred Mertz    To: A K A Stone (#51)

Fred Mertz posted on 2016-03-24 22:50:42   Reply   Private Reply


#53: A K A Stone    To: Fred Mertz (#52)

I was wrong about Jeb! being in the mix. So, maybe I'm wrong again.

Maybe.

My dad tells me Hillary starts with 49 percent of the vote. You know all the welfare leaches.

So he thinks Trump will lose.

Me I know he will win. Ok I'm just pretty confident he will.

A K A Stone posted on 2016-03-24 22:53:23   Reply   Private Reply


#54: A K A Stone    To: Fred Mertz, redleghunter, sneakypete, pinguinite (#52)

Enjoy

A K A Stone posted on 2016-03-24 23:00:03   Reply   Private Reply


#55: Pinguinite    To: A K A Stone (#39)

I've been reading your pro Trump posts. Frankly I'm a little surprised you support him. I'm happy you do.

All considered, I do hope Trump wins the presidency. That doesn't mean I like everything he stands for. He seems to have an authoritarian streak in him. He wants an even bigger military than we have now, he favors torture and it seems he's no fan of liberty.

But on the positive side, he is not a standard politician, or seems not to be. He comes off instead as a real person who can think and is not afraid to change his mind if circumstances warrant it, and he would do so unapologetically, which is cool. He's also not in the pocket of any special interests. It seems likely he will declassify stuff even if it's embarrassing to the US gov just because he believes in the right of ordinary Americans to know the truth. And it seems likely that standard corrupt politics in DC will get a serious crackdown under a Trump administration.

With any other of the mainstream candidates, we know nothing will change. With Trump, things might change a lot. Maybe they won't, but the best chance of really upsetting the applecart comes with Trump, not Hillary or Cruz or anyone else. So yes, I hope Trump wins.

I guess Trump reaches all different types of people.

I've noticed this too. He has broad appeal with many cross sections of American life, and it seems internationally too.

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#56: BobCeleste    To: Justified (#36)

why has he sealed his records, does that remind you of another freshman senator? Why would he? Give his enemies ammo? The man is not stupid!

Please never be so stupid as to apply for a job with me or one of my sons, you see, no records, no HS, College, etc records, no DD214, etc, no job.

Cruz, the slime wants the job of being president, we, his potential employers, are entitled to see his records.

Unless of course he has something to hide, like no proof he entered the US legally.

Does the below not bother you:

Ted Cruz could not have entered the U.S. legally without a CRBA or a U.S. passport, the latter of which was not obtained until 1986.

If Ted Cruz was registered as a U.S. citizen at birth, as his spokeswoman claims, then the CRBA must be released. Otherwise, one could conclude that Cruz came to the U.S. as a Canadian citizen, perhaps on a tourist visa or, possibly, remained in the U.S. as an illegal immigrant.

BobCeleste posted on 2016-03-25 08:32:19   Reply   Private Reply


#57: Justified    To: BobCeleste (#56)

Does the below not bother you:

Compared to what?

I have only 2 candidates to choose from. Trump and Cruz. Both talk big but one has a record that is not so good. The other talks big and backs up his word with actions.

I can hold my nose and vote Trump. I am willing to take a chance Trump over Clinton any day. I would rather vote for Cruz the smarter more consistent conservative slash libertarian who is a known quantity.

This is what always happens in the GOP. We slaughter all the true conservative slash libertarian candidates and leave nothing but the wimpy middle of the road candidate who compromises away the conservative/libertarian beliefs for the progressive beliefs.

Also who says Trump is going to do all he says when he has not done one thing to prove he can?

If Cruz beats Trump in a fair fight and you do not vote for him over Clinton you are a fool!!!!!!!!!!!!! If Trump is screwed over then the GOP will lose and I will stay at home like a good portions of people.

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#58: A K A Stone    To: Pinguinite (#55)

Good analysis. I pretty much agree with your assessment.

A K A Stone posted on 2016-03-26 00:27:28   Reply   Private Reply


#59: BobCeleste    To: A K A Stone (#38)

oh come on, you know better than that.

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#60: BobCeleste    To: Justified (#57)

BobCeleste posted on 2016-03-26 08:44:52   Reply   Private Reply


#61: Justified    To: BobCeleste (#60)

Obama blew that out of the water. As long as you are not born by test tube you are a natural born citizen.

What I find is that how nasty the GOP fights are and how lame the GOP fights the dims.

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#62: BobCeleste    To: Justified (#61)

If the Republican controlled congress had fought obama half as hard as they are Donald, Donald would not have had to run.

If you pray, pray for Cruz's two daughters, this is going to get very nasty, it is all part of the plan to make Hillary or Biden President.

If they can get cruz the nomination then the Supreme Court rules that he is not a Natural Born Citizen, he is disqualified on Nov,. 1-4 of this year and the democrat wins regardless of the vote count.

Then if you want freedom, you fight for it.

BobCeleste posted on 2016-03-26 17:49:51   Reply   Private Reply


#63: Justified    To: BobCeleste (#62)

If the Republican controlled congress had fought obama half as hard as they are Donald, Donald would not have had to run.

I can not argue. He is black and they could not fight his blackness because they were terrified to be called racist!

If you pray, pray for Cruz's two daughters, this is going to get very nasty, it is all part of the plan to make Hillary or Biden President.

Im not sure what that is suppose to mean? It almost sounds like a threat?

Trump or Cruz will cream Hillary. She has been protected by the MSM and limp wristed GOP candidates. This election, assuming GOP don't try to pervert it by not letting the people chose, is the first time since President Reagan the GOP has candidates with a backbone.

If they can get cruz the nomination then the Supreme Court rules that he is not a Natural Born Citizen, he is disqualified on Nov,. 1-4 of this year and the democrat wins regardless of the vote count.

Like I said before Obama made the natural born clause anyone who is a natural citizen eligible to be president. Which is basically anyone alive.

Justified posted on 2016-03-26 18:30:50   Reply   Private Reply


#64: ConservingFreedom    To: Pinguinite (#10)

a woman like that kindof proves Trump is a real man.

No, actually, it proves nothing of the sort.

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#65: Pinguinite    To: ConservingFreedom (#64)

I said "kindof". The judge on the question is with each voter. Many guys will not hold it against him that his wife who allowed herself to be photoed like that, but rather be impressed that Trump has a hot wife. On the other hand, Many guys will take offense. Some guys will pretend to take offense, but will actually be jealous or similar, secretly taking a complimentary view of Trump.

The next round of voting might show how the incident may impact Trump's popularity.

BTW, if it's a choice between this woman as first lady, and Bill Clinton first gentlemen....

Pinguinite posted on 2016-03-26 23:27:47   Reply   Private Reply