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Title: Keeping up with the Jones Act
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.hacer.org/usa/?p=411
Published: Jun 18, 2010
Author: Deroy Murdock
Post Date: 2010-06-18 10:48:16 by no gnu taxes
Keywords: None
Views: 1383
Comments: 86

As a self-proclaimed “citizen of the world,” President Obama should have welcomed rather than spurned international assistance to prevent BP’s underwater oil geyser from wrecking the Gulf Coast. But spurn, he did. Mr. Obama’s failure to waive the Jones Act still maintains a sea wall that blocks potentially helpful foreign ships from this tear-inducing mess.

The 1920 Jones Act requires that vessels operating in American waters be built, owned and manned by Americans. Some U.S. ship owners love this protectionist measure. So do maritime labor unions. When it comes to confronting unions, Mr. Obama rarely crosses that line.

On April 20, the Deepwater Horizon exploded, killed 11 oil rig workers, and began gushing perhaps 60,000 barrels of petroleum daily. Three days later, the Dutch offered to sail to the rescue on ships bedecked with oil-skimming booms. They also had a plan for erecting protective sand barricades.

“The embassy got a nice letter from the administration that said, ‘Thanks, but no thanks,’ ” Dutch consul general Geert Visser told the Houston Chronicle’s Loren Steffy. Had those Dutch ships departed nearly two months ago, who knows how much oil they already would have absorbed and how many pelicans now would soar rather than soak in soapy water while wildlife experts clean their wings.

After initially refusing to name them, the State Department on May 5 declared that 11 other countries and the United Nations also had offered skimmer boats and other assets and experts to prevent the oil from destroying dolphins, crabs, oysters and this disaster’s other defenseless victims.

Alas, they were turned away.

“While there is no need right now that the U.S. cannot meet,” stated a State Department statement, “the U.S. Coast Guard is assessing these offers of assistance to see if there will be something which we will need in the near future.” Foreign Policy’s Josh Rogin translated this into plain English: “The current message to foreign governments is: Thanks but no thanks, we’ve got it covered.”

Had Mr. Obama instead waived the Jones Act via executive order – as did President George W. Bush three days after Hurricane Katrina – that S.O.S. would have summoned a global armada of mercy. Who knows how many fishing, shrimping and seafood-processing jobs this would have saved? Instead, thousands of Gulf Coast workers will endure a long march from dormant docks to bustling unemployment lines.

Even now, Mr. Obama could invite the world to send boats to clean the waters off Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Florida and (potentially) the Carolinas and points north, if this mass of oil (so far, roughly equal to 13 Exxon Valdez oil spills) enters the Loop Current, swerves around Key West, slips into the Gulf Stream, and slides up the Eastern Seaboard.

“If there is the need for any type of waiver, that would obviously be granted,” White House spokesman Robert Gibbs promised on June 10. “But, we’ve not had that problem thus far in the Gulf.”

Problem? What problem?

The Jones Act sometimes gets waived. As Fox News Channel’s Brian Wilson reported on June 11: “A U.S. Customs official ruled recently that the Jones Act does not apply to foreign-owned vessels installing wind turbines off the coast of Delaware.”

Watching Mr. Obama’s Tuesday night Oval Office address, BP’s brass must have been startled to hear the president say: “I will meet with the chairman of BP and inform him that he is to set aside whatever resources are required to compensate the workers and business owners who have been harmed as a result of his company’s recklessness.”

Should BP pay, and pay big? Yes.

Reckless? BP sure seems so.

But since when does the American president “inform” executives that they must devote billions to any cause, no matter how worthy? Isn’t this why Congress passes legislation and courts administer justice?

So, while a pro-labor trade barrier traps potentially helpful boats in overseas ports, due process withers under presidential diktat.

And the crude oil keeps on flowing.

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#1. To: no gnu taxes (#0)

WASHINGTON — National Incident Commander Admiral Thad Allen today announced the development of specific guidance to ensure accelerated processing of requests for Jones Act waivers should they be received as a part of the BP oil spill response.

Currently, 15 foreign-flagged vessels are involved in the largest response to an oil spill in U.S. history. No Jones Act waivers have been granted because none of these vessels have required such a waiver to conduct their operations in the Gulf of Mexico.

However, in order to prepare for any potential need, Admiral Allen has provided guidance to the Coast Guard Federal On-Scene Coordinator, U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP), and the U.S. Maritime Administration to ensure any Jones Act waiver requests receive urgent attention and processing.

“While we have not seen any need to waive the Jones Act as part of this historic response, we continue to prepare for all possible scenarios,” said Admiral Allen. “Should any waivers be needed, we are prepared to process them as quickly as possible to allow vital spill response activities being undertaken by foreign-flagged vessels to continue without delay.”

To date, the administration has leveraged assets and skills from numerous foreign countries and international organizations as part of this historic, all-hands-on-deck response, including Canada, Germany, Mexico, Netherlands, Norway, the United Nations’ International Maritime Organization and the European Union’s Monitoring and Information Centre. In some cases, offers of international assistance have been turned down because the offer didn’t fit the needs of the response.

Generally, federal law prohibits a foreign-flagged vessel from transporting merchandise between points in the United States encompassed by the Coastwise laws. CBP makes determinations as to whether or not the Jones Act applies to the activities of a foreign-flagged vessel operating within U.S. waters.

Even if the Jones Act applies, a foreign flagged vessel can still conduct certain planned operations as part of the BP oil spill response if the vessel is an oil spill response vessel and meets the requirements of 46 USC § 55113.

http://www.deepwaterhorizonresponse.com/go/doc/2931/660195/


Attention Gulf Voters: if the GO(B)P takes the house, Joe Barton becomes chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee.

go65  posted on  2010-06-18   10:49:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: go65 (#1)

At best this is TWO MONTHS LATE.

And as of just yesterday the Coast Guard was stopping oceangoing vessels heading in to help, and citing the Jones Act.

Just 10 days prior to the explosion, the Obama administration’s regulators gave the oil rig a pass, and last year the Obama administration granted BP a National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) exemption for its drilling operation.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-18   10:51:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: All (#1)

Ken Wells, president of the Offshore Marine Services Association, does not believe that the Jones Act applies to the situation. Foreign vessels are already working at the accident site, and foreign skimming vessels are allowed to work, even close to shore. He views any offers to help as sales calls, and noted that the Coast Guard is probably already overwhelmed with offers from companies that claim to have the magic bullet to help.


Attention Gulf Voters: if the GO(B)P takes the house, Joe Barton becomes chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee.

go65  posted on  2010-06-18   10:51:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Badeye (#2)

“While we have not seen any need to waive the Jones Act as part of this historic response, we continue to prepare for all possible scenarios,” said Admiral Allen. “Should any waivers be needed, we are prepared to process them as quickly as possible to allow vital spill response activities being undertaken by foreign-flagged vessels to continue without delay.”

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-18   10:52:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Badeye (#2) (Edited)

At best this is TWO MONTHS LATE.

Only if you ignore the fact that BP minimized the impact of the spill in the first month.

And as of just yesterday the Coast Guard was stopping oceangoing vessels heading in to help, and citing the Jones Act.

Source?


Attention Gulf Voters: if the GO(B)P takes the house, Joe Barton becomes chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee.

go65  posted on  2010-06-18   11:24:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: war, badeye (#4) (Edited)

In an official statement by the Unified Command's Lt. Erik Halvorson, Chief, Joint Information Center of the Unified Area Command said:

All potential foreign technology solutions are being reviewed for their suitability to meet response requirements. As Admiral Allen said this morning, he will review waivers of the Jones Act if they are requested, but so far no requests have been made. I am not aware of any instance in which needed foreign ships or technology have not been accepted due to the Jones Act. The Jones Act is not preventing us from getting the technology that we need.


Attention Gulf Voters: if the GO(B)P takes the house, Joe Barton becomes chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee.

go65  posted on  2010-06-18   11:25:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: go65 (#5)

Only if you ignore the fact that BP minimized the impact of the spill in the month.

Others did as well:

#5. To: Brian S (#2)

More oil seeps from the floor of the Gulf than is leaking here.

Badeye posted on 2010-04-26 9:57:41 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-18   11:25:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: go65 (#5)

Only if you ignore the fact that BP minimized the impact of the spill in the first month.

(laughing)

So, Salazar was asleep at the switch?

Ooookay.

Just 10 days prior to the explosion, the Obama administration’s regulators gave the oil rig a pass, and last year the Obama administration granted BP a National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) exemption for its drilling operation.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-18   11:25:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: go65 (#5)

And as of just yesterday the Coast Guard was stopping oceangoing vessels heading in to help, and citing the Jones Act. Source?

Drudge headline.

Just 10 days prior to the explosion, the Obama administration’s regulators gave the oil rig a pass, and last year the Obama administration granted BP a National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) exemption for its drilling operation.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-18   11:26:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: war, badeye (#7)

More oil seeps from the floor of the Gulf than is leaking here.

Badeye posted on 2010-04-26 9:57:41 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

After saying Shell was an American company and Exxon and Mobile (sic) were separate companies, maybe the time has come for Badeye to bow out of any thread discussing the oil spill.


Attention Gulf Voters: if the GO(B)P takes the house, Joe Barton becomes chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee.

go65  posted on  2010-06-18   11:27:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: go65 (#10)

Fat Head = Fat Chance...

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-18   11:27:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Badeye (#9) (Edited)

Drudge headline.

I assume you are referring to this:

CRUDE-SUCKING BARGES STOPPED BY COAST GUARD

The article said the Coast Guard stopped the vessels to verify if they had necessary safety equipment, it didn't have anything to do with the Jones Act.

So apparently this another in your long line of factual errors in discussions about this spill.


Attention Gulf Voters: if the GO(B)P takes the house, Joe Barton becomes chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee.

go65  posted on  2010-06-18   11:29:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: go65 (#10)

Attention Gulf Voters: if the GO(B)P takes the house, Joe Barton becomes chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee.

Is that the guy that characterized $20 billion set aside to pay compensation to people hurt by the oil spill as a "shakedown"?

lucysmom  posted on  2010-06-18   11:31:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: lucysmom (#13)

Is that the guy that characterized $20 billion set aside to pay compensation to people hurt by the oil spill as a "shakedown"?

Yep.


Attention Gulf Voters: if the GO(B)P takes the house, Joe Barton becomes chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee.

go65  posted on  2010-06-18   11:32:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: go65 (#6)

Why are they waiting?

Just 10 days prior to the explosion, the Obama administration’s regulators gave the oil rig a pass, and last year the Obama administration granted BP a National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) exemption for its drilling operation.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-18   11:39:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: go65 (#10)

More oil seeps from the floor of the Gulf than is leaking here.

Its a fact, btw.

And if you don't want a comment, don't ping me GO65.

No loss here.

Just 10 days prior to the explosion, the Obama administration’s regulators gave the oil rig a pass, and last year the Obama administration granted BP a National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) exemption for its drilling operation.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-18   11:40:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: go65 (#12)

So apparently this another in your long line of factual errors in discussions about this spill.

Oh horseshit. You're just getting pissy cause the Democrats are losing the political battle, and Owe-bama is losing support across the board.

Long line my ass.

Just 10 days prior to the explosion, the Obama administration’s regulators gave the oil rig a pass, and last year the Obama administration granted BP a National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) exemption for its drilling operation.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-18   11:42:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Badeye (#16)

Its a fact, btw.

Uh...no...not even close...

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-18   11:44:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Badeye (#17)

Chuckles...the only one I see getting pissy is.....YOU...

[snicker]

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-18   11:48:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: go65 (#14)

Yep.

I heard his tirade, it was way too long and slimey, and by the end made him seem like he was doing a little toooooo much protesting and groveling.

Making the world safe for United Fruit.

mininggold  posted on  2010-06-18   11:49:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: war (#19)

Chuckles...the only one I see getting pissy is.....YOU...

[snicker]

That's his normal routine when he runs out of ammo or his talking points are not getting 'traction'. Help will arrive soon.

Making the world safe for United Fruit.

mininggold  posted on  2010-06-18   11:53:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: mininggold (#21) (Edited)

I have a feeling that "Its [sic] a beautiful day in Southern Ohio" is about to be posted...(laughing)

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-18   11:55:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: lucysmom, war, badeye, skip intro, fred mertz (#16)

Its a fact, btw.

Fact Check Time:

About 21 million gallons of oil seep naturally into the ENTIRE gulf in a year.

See: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2000/01/000127082228.htm

Oil from BP's well is leaking into the gulf at a rate of 25-60,000 barrels per day.

There are 42 gallons in a barrel.

Thus, 1,050,000 to 2,520,000 gallons per day are leaking into the gulf from this well.

That means, as much oil is leaking from this well into the gulf every 10-20 days as leaks naturally in an entire year.

As usual, your facts are off.

Badeye, almost every time you interject yourself in a thread about the gulf oil leak you make a false claim. It might be time to either stay out of these threads or just spend a bit more time fact checking before you post.


Attention Gulf Voters: if the GO(B)P takes the house, Joe Barton becomes chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee.

go65  posted on  2010-06-18   11:55:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: go65 (#23)

About 21 million gallons of oil seep naturally into the ENTIRE gulf in a year.

I said globally. Not 'in the gulf'.

It might be time you take a reading comprehension course, before launching juvenile personal attacks.

You only do this when your side is getting its ass kicked politically, GO.

(chuckle)

Just 10 days prior to the explosion, the Obama administration’s regulators gave the oil rig a pass, and last year the Obama administration granted BP a National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) exemption for its drilling operation.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-18   11:57:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: go65 (#23)

Oh, and btw, pinging the anti groupie after he was caught editing articles to insert things that the author didn't write makes this post look even more absurd.

You should really 'think' before going on the personal attack rant, GO.

Just 10 days prior to the explosion, the Obama administration’s regulators gave the oil rig a pass, and last year the Obama administration granted BP a National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) exemption for its drilling operation.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-18   11:59:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Badeye (#24)

Chuckles...FROH...

#5. To: Brian S (#2)

More oil seeps from the floor of the Gulf than is leaking here.

Badeye posted on 2010-04-26 9:57:41 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-18   12:01:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: lucysmom, war, badeye, skip intro, fred mertz (#24)

I said globally. Not 'in the gulf'.

No you didn't:

More oil seeps from the floor of the Gulf than is leaking here.

Badeye posted on 2010-04-26 9:57:41 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

Want more rope?


Attention Gulf Voters: if the GO(B)P takes the house, Joe Barton becomes chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee.

go65  posted on  2010-06-18   12:02:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Badeye, go65 (#25)

..caught editing articles

It was one article Boofer...and I didn't "edit" it...I enhanced it truthfully...

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-18   12:02:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Brian S, Murron, Mininggold (#27)

ping to 23 onward. He's caught so deeply in his lie he can't find the door.


Attention Gulf Voters: if the GO(B)P takes the house, Joe Barton becomes chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee.

go65  posted on  2010-06-18   12:02:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: go65 (#1)

Nothing but propaganda and ass covering as pointed out here:

http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=9964

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-06-18   12:03:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: no gnu taxes (#30)

Nothing but propaganda and ass covering as pointed out here:

http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=9964

And as debunked here:

http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=9973


Attention Gulf Voters: if the GO(B)P takes the house, Joe Barton becomes chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee.

go65  posted on  2010-06-18   12:04:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: go65 (#31)

BTT

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-18   12:05:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Badeye (#25)

Oh, and btw, pinging the anti groupie after he was caught editing articles to insert things that the author didn't write makes this post look even more absurd.

You should really 'think' before going on the personal attack rant, GO.

Didn't you complain about this exact same thing happening yesterday in an article you, yourself, posted? Personal attack rant? Why there are dozens you ignore everyday, infact you will often give them an 'attaboy'. Like I said you are Mr. Sounding Board. LOLOLOL

Making the world safe for United Fruit.

mininggold  posted on  2010-06-18   12:07:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: go65 (#31)

That did not debunk what I posted as it did not claim the labor unions were specifically blocking the clean up efforts or that ships were sitting around waiting. Those are red herrings.

What Obama (not the labor unions) has done has rebuffed all offers of badly needed assistance in apparent tribute to the labor unions.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-06-18   12:08:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: war (#28)

It was one article Boofer...and I didn't "edit" it...I enhanced it truthfully...

12th commandment. Thou shalt not describe a fat Pubby as..... a fat Pubby.

Making the world safe for United Fruit.

mininggold  posted on  2010-06-18   12:10:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: no gnu taxes (#34)

What Obama (not the labor unions) has done has rebuffed all offers of badly needed assistance in apparent tribute to the labor unions.

What part of "debunked" aren't you getting? Or do you have the same reading issues as Boofer?

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-18   12:11:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: lucysmom, Fred Mertz, Skip Intro (#36)

PING to 23 onward...too good not to share...

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-18   12:12:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: mininggold (#35)

12th commandment. Thou shalt not describe a fat Pubby as..... a fat Pubby.

Hey...I said "obese"!!! Are you editing my content?!?

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-18   12:16:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: go65 (#27)

More oil seeps from the floor of the Gulf than is leaking here.

Isn't that quote right out of the mouth of Rush Limbaugh?

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-06-18   12:17:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Skip Intro (#39)

Isn't that quote right out of the mouth of Rush Limbaugh?

CORRECT: Isn't that quote lie right out of the mouth of Rush Limbaugh?

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-18   12:21:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: war (#38)

Hey...I said "obese"!!! Are you editing my content?!?

Guilty as charged. I hope the Pubby kangaroo jurors are too busy to notice.

Making the world safe for United Fruit.

mininggold  posted on  2010-06-18   12:25:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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