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Title: Experts: Lumber Prices Fall, and Economy May Follow
Source: MoneyNews dot Com
URL Source: http://www.moneynews.com/StreetTalk ... l-Economy/2010/06/16/id/362157
Published: Jun 17, 2010
Author: Dan Weil
Post Date: 2010-06-17 07:09:51 by reaganisright
Keywords: economy, commodities
Views: 623
Comments: 6

Prices of lumber and other raw materials are slumping, and that puts the economy at risk of a double-dip recession, experts say.

Until recently, many economists were concerned about an outbreak of inflation. But in the wake of Europe’s debt crisis, many are now worried about deflation.

Prices for framing lumber have dropped 21 percent just in the last five weeks, according to the National Association of Home Builders, CNNMoney.com reports.

Other industrial material prices are slipping in synch.

That doesn’t bode well for the global economy, says Lakshman Achuthan, managing director of ECRI (the Economic Cycle Research Institute).

"The way to read this is that a slowing of global industrial activity is starting right now," he told CNNMoney.com.

"We don't want to jump the gun. We're not yet able to say the slowing is going to continue so much that we're going to get a decline in actual activity. We might, but we're not there yet."

If prices continue to slide, manufacturers will have to trim production or fold, because they won’t be able to make profits from their sales, Eric Schooler, CEO of The Collins Cos., a lumber producer, told CNNMoney.com.

Some experts are focusing on weak industrial metals prices.

Copper’s recent decline to a seven-month low is "a sign that the global economy is poised to cool off, and probably quite sharply," David Rosenberg, chief economist at Gluskin Sheff + Associates, told the Chicago Tribune.

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#1. To: reaganisright (#0)

Prices of lumber and other raw materials are slumping, and that puts the economy at risk of a double-dip recession, experts say.

Lumber has been in a surplus situation for the last 2 years. The issue isn't lumber causing a double dip - as much as you may want one. The issue is what LUMBER builds causing a double dip.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-17   7:56:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: reaganisright (#0)

Murmurs about another housing bubble don't help here.

Just 10 days prior to the explosion, the Obama administration’s regulators gave the oil rig a pass, and last year the Obama administration granted BP a National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) exemption for its drilling operation.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-17   9:10:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Badeye (#2)

I'm looking for a major crash in 2011. Bush tax cuts expire, cap gains go up. This changes the equation for every business and new venture even for existing companies. Hiring will tank to zero or worse. A tax increase during a recession is as dumb as they come, aka Zero. He really wants to destroy this country.

Considering dumping all my stock, I can buy it back next year. Pay the taxes at the low cap gains rate, balance my losers out and decide what to keep and what to ditch. I'm thinking I have to have this done before August before the asswipes on Wall Street come back from their summer off.

Problem is where to put the $$, even the pros are confounded by that simple question as I type.

Remember, the markets started tanking when it was obvious Zero would be elected back in 2008. McCain was so bad even his Mother said he wasn't fit to be President. I still voted for him but I had to hold my nose to do it. What a loser, another naval academy puke like Jimmy Peanutbrain Carter.

reaganisright  posted on  2010-06-17   10:42:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: reaganisright (#3)

I've been posting for months we would limp through this year, and next year would make the fall of 2008 look like a walk in the park. Everything I'm seeing reinforces this viewpoint.

And like you, I'm getting completely out of the stockmarket, probably in December. Thats going to be a very ugly end to the year as people bail to avoid the capital gains tax hike January 1st.

At this point in his Presidency, Owe-bama no longer has the time to affect the economy in a postive way, and thereby reverse his dimmer by the day reelection chances. 'Whats done is done' as the infamous Clinton era line goes.

Some are trying to kid themselves 'He can run against a GOP Congress!'. Maybe in another time, when we didn't have record numbers of unemployed Americans, record monthly and annual foreclosures and bankruptcies, a massive 'by default' tax hike when the Bush cuts are allowed to 'sunset', and were not witnessing a massive hike in health insurance premiums, combined with a lowering of services provided within it.

As we get closer to November, its going to get really really ugly politically. The Democrats know whats coming, and are beginnig to panic. Each week we are seeing them get more and more aggitated, to the point of physically attacking anyone that dares to even ask a basic question like 'Do you support Obama's agenda'.

Watch what happens at voting locations in major urban centers. Between SEIU thugs, and the laughable Black Panther types (laughable if you aren't afraid of bullies and can deal with them on your own) we will see violence in a way we haven't seen since 1968.

Just 10 days prior to the explosion, the Obama administration’s regulators gave the oil rig a pass, and last year the Obama administration granted BP a National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) exemption for its drilling operation.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-17   10:56:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Badeye (#4)

And like you, I'm getting completely out of the stockmarket, probably in December.

December sounds late to me, only thing that will rally stocks between Oct and Dec will be a major R election victory. Very probable, but from how low before Nov.

Dec is tax selling time and I used to look for buying on tax loss sales in late Dec. Seems they sell earlier now and book the losses earlier, then take gains in early Jan.

I don't see any gains in the future without a major shift of thinking in this country.

One stock I've bought was Home Depot, HD. Funny because I shop at HD and spend money at Lowes. People are doing more of their own work and wasting less money on stupid stuff.

I got into HD a little late, after they fired that bozo Nardelli who then screwed up Chrysler. Total wasteproduct. Not a great investment, not a loser, ok dividend. I might keep this one and continue spending money at Lowe's.

reaganisright  posted on  2010-06-17   11:51:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: reaganisright (#5)

Most people procrastinate, hence December in my view.

Just 10 days prior to the explosion, the Obama administration’s regulators gave the oil rig a pass, and last year the Obama administration granted BP a National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) exemption for its drilling operation.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-17   12:18:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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