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Title: Obama's Big Lie -- We’re drilling in deepwater because we’re running out of places to drill
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URL Source: http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.co ... logging-the-obama-bp-beatdown/
Published: Jun 16, 2010
Author: gatewaypundit
Post Date: 2010-06-16 10:36:49 by no gnu taxes
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Views: 14537
Comments: 78
Two vacations, a half dozen parties, and several rounds of golf later, Barack Obama finally addresses the nation on the BP oil spill. Lie #1: We’re drilling in deepwater because we’re running out of places to drill. Not True. For decades, Democrats have blocked efforts to responsibly develop this nation’s energy resources, transforming vast areas of opportunity into “The No Zone.” Over the past 30 years: Democrats have blocked the development of new sources of petroleum. Democrats have blocked drilling in ANWR. Democrats have blocked drilling off the coast of Florida. Democrats have blocked drilling off of the east coast. Democrats have blocked drilling off of the west coast. Democrats have blocked drilling off the Alaskan coast. Democrats have blocked building oil refineries. Democrats have blocked clean nuclear energy production. Democrats have blocked clean coal production. But, they’re funding projects in Brazil. The Wall Street Journal reported: The U.S. is going to lend billions of dollars to Brazil’s state-owned oil company, Petrobras, to finance exploration of the huge offshore discovery in Brazil’s Tupi oil field in the Santos Basin near Rio de Janeiro. Brazil’s planning minister confirmed that White House National Security Adviser James Jones met this month with Brazilian officials to talk about the loan. This radical president is shameless. He’s pushing for more regulations and his cap-&-tax energy policy that will cause energy costs to necessarily skyrocket. Now he’s quoting 
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#39. To: no gnu taxes (#38)
Fortunately, most everyone disagrees with you.
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
If that 5% has given us the air that we currently enjoy, I'll take it...
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
most everyone has no clue what an "ozone concentration of 65 ppb" even means. Most everyone I know who works in the enviromental field know it's a joke. But then again, I don't associate with the loons.
You seem to know bureaucrats and not scientists. I also sense that you know some science but not on a level that would reveal an advanced degree. That said, I'll confess that I did not know about it. I've googled and have been reading some. The recommendation to go to 65 by 2020 seemed to have a very wide consensus of agreement within the scientific community. Canada is already there...
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
Yeah right. The same way AGW has a very wide consensus within the scientific community. The scientific commumity with a vested interest in it, that is.
I've found a LACK of consensus regarding AGW...as opposed to man simply exacerbating it which enjoys a very broad consensus. Boofer will be here any second now, like Pavlov's dog, to point out that a paragraph in a Time magazine article 35 years ago mentioned global cooling - as if that's supposed to mean something.
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
Here's somebody who gets it: A notable pattern is becoming apparent: EPA moves the goalposts every time most of the nation meets the then-present ozone standard. The evidence shows this is not a health issue at all, but rather EPA's strategy to maintain its substantial regulatory power over the American public. A review of the historical context of ozone regulation confirms this agenda. http://www.heartland.org/publications/environment%20climate/article/22367/New_EPA_Rules_Punish_Areas_for_Ozone_Improvement.html some science but not on a level that would reveal an advanced degree. I'm not sure what somebody with an "advanced degree in science" is supposed to know, but I am a registered professional chemical engineer.
(eyes roiling) Midwest branch of the Board of Directors for ExxonMobil...
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
Registered with what? Your local parole board? I believe the word you are looking for is LICENSED.
Making the world safe for United Fruit.
Midwest branch of the Board of Directors for ExxonMobil... I can't believe the impersonators on these boards and all are pro Palin.
Making the world safe for United Fruit.
Blue haze from water vapor is one thing; a brown haze so thick we can't see the mountains a couple of miles away is another.
Even a 'Registered" professional chemical engineer instead of the licensed variety should know the difference.... don't you think?
Making the world safe for United Fruit.
Either term is acceptable, goof.
As you continue to show your ignorance in your chosen field. Why are you unemployed?
Making the world safe for United Fruit.
The blue haze is from the reactions of natural VOCs from trees such as isoprene to form ozone and fine particulate matter.
Google "registered professional engineer." See how many of them are referred to that way. Even in California. You are an idiot.
You are an idiot. You stated with 'chemical engineer' which is rarely used with 'registered', so you are you now impersonating structural and other engineers.
Making the world safe for United Fruit.
Attachment A-Scope of Work requires the Resident Engineer to be a Registered Professional Civil Engineer in the State of California. http://www.sdcwa.org/opps/client_find_project_faq.phtml?proj_name=Construction+Management+As-Needed+Support+Services&proj_id=392 Arizona Registered Professional Engineer, Certification No. 29022 http://www.californiacustomdocks.com/ JOHN O’DOHERTY, P.E., California Registered Professional Engineer – C46044 http://www.pettit-ea.com/key_personal.html ****************** How many dozen more examples do you need to convince yourself you are an idiot?
From your article: In 1981, the United States had 325 refineries capable of producing 18.6 million barrels a day. Today there are fewer than half that number, producing 16.9 million barrels daily. Still, refining capacity has been increasing, though not dramatically, for the last decade. Imports have made up the difference as demand has continued to increase. What is the excuse for closing down nearly half the refineries in the US over the past thirty years rather than expand and upgrade them and then complaining the envirowackos/democrats won't let them build more? It reminds me of the California energy crisis when the industry along with their neocon lapdogs blamed everyone but themselves - it turned out we were being gamed.
search for "registered chemical engineer" http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=%22registered+chemical+engineer%22&fr=ush-mail&ygmabtsrchbtn=Web+Search
I'm convinced you can cut and paste well and impersonate an engineer that will pass muster with the stupids.
Making the world safe for United Fruit.
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=%22registered+chemical+engineer%22&fr=ush-mail&ygmabtsrchbtn=Web+Search
Making the world safe for United Fruit.
Easy. Those 'envirowackos' as you put it, ensured regulations that make it virtually impossible to 'upgrade'. Thats why.
Just 10 days prior to the explosion, the Obama administration’s regulators gave the oil rig a pass, and last year the Obama administration granted BP a National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) exemption for its drilling operation.
Just proves that I should not rely on memory. That being said, the majority of the Blue Ridge Mountain haze is not natural, but man made. ...research conducted in the Blue Ridge mountains has shown that naturally-occurring aerosols are responsible for no more than 20% of the total light extinction due to haze (Ferman et al. 1981). www.spc.noaa.gov/publications/corfidi/haze.html and There has always been some pollution affecting the views in the Southern Appalachians. In fact the Blue Ridge Mountain’s name originated because of the bluish haze caused by hydrocarbons released by trees into the atmosphere. However, over the last 50 years the visibility in the Southern Appalachians has decreased 40% in the winter and 80% in the summer because of man-made pollutants. Most of the pollution is caused by power plants, industry and automobiles. These pollutants come from both within and outside the Southern Appalachians, often traveling hundreds of miles. As the winds bring the pollutants to the Blue Ridge the mountains trap and concentrate them. While the decreased views are noticeable, there are also other impacts that cannot be seen.
And yet, right here in liberal, San Francisco bay area, we have oil refineries.
When were the Blue Ridge Mountains so named? You think SUVs and coal fired power plants were causing it then?
If 40-80% of the cause is man made, will chopping down the trees make it go away?
The point is that there is a certain amount of background pollution that will always be there.
And the point of your point is that adding more pollution ain't no problem? I could be wrong about this cause I ain't no scientist, however my guess is that where "pollution" is natural, organisms in that environment have evolved to deal with it, and even thrive. When man made "pollutants" are added in large amounts to the mix, the system goes into a tail spin.
Further lowering of ozone standards is pointless, other than to give government bureaucrats job security.
Don't waste your breathe or typing skills on libtards, facts mean nothing, they can't comprehend squat. We used to have a steel company in Sparrows Point, MD called Bethlehem Steel. Put out of business by labor unions demanding huge salaries and the EPA. The EPA set air pollution standards which the company met. Next year they dropped the numbers and all the millions of equipment was scrap and the entire job had to be re-done. We needed to clean the air especially around and in the big cities but the incremental piecemeal approach was a disaster. The auto industry fared better but look at the cars between '71 until catalysts. Some were real dogs de-tuned for emissions not gas mileage or performance.
Correct. These posters would rather die of their own theory than admit the mistake.
Just 10 days prior to the explosion, the Obama administration’s regulators gave the oil rig a pass, and last year the Obama administration granted BP a National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) exemption for its drilling operation.
You just cited why the argument against global warming is always framed against the fringe of the issue and not the common sense aspect of it that the vast majority of scientists subscribe to.
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
That steel mill is still operating moron...Bethlehem Steel was bought out by ISG which kept the mill open. Now it's operated by Severstal. You either have the same truth issues as Boofer does or you're just as dumb. Or both. That's where my money is.
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
And yet, right here in liberal, San Francisco bay area, we have oil refineries. And that has what to do with the blocking of upgrades to make the refineries more efficent and enviromentally friendly? Sheesh.
Just 10 days prior to the explosion, the Obama administration’s regulators gave the oil rig a pass, and last year the Obama administration granted BP a National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) exemption for its drilling operation.
I don't know what you're talking about.
And that has what to do with the blocking of upgrades to make the refineries more efficent and enviromentally friendly? I don't know what you're talking about. I'm not surprised.
Just 10 days prior to the explosion, the Obama administration’s regulators gave the oil rig a pass, and last year the Obama administration granted BP a National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) exemption for its drilling operation.
....that are constantly being upgraded too. The problem is there's no room for expansion. Just in the East Bay Martinez and Benicia are chock full with the BIG Shell refinery and Tesoro, Pacheco has Valero, Rodeo has the old Union 76 as well as Richmond having Standard Oil,...Go Oilers! lol
Making the world safe for United Fruit.
That can't be cause Badeye says it ain't so, liberals won't allow it. You'd think he'd question the industry scenario when facts on the ground don't support their story.
#40. To: no gnu taxes (#19)
#41. To: war (#39)
most everyone disagrees with you.
#42. To: no gnu taxes (#41)
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Most everyone I know who works in the enviromental field know it's a joke.
#43. To: war (#42)
The recommendation to go to 65 by 2020 seemed to have a very wide consensus of agreement within the scientific community.
#44. To: no gnu taxes (#43)
(Edited)
The same way AGW has a very wide consensus within the scientific community.
#45. To: war (#42)
#46. To: no gnu taxes (#45)
heartland.org
#47. To: no gnu taxes (#45)
I'm not sure what somebody with an "advanced degree in science" is supposed to know, but I am a registered professional chemical engineer.
#48. To: war (#46)
(eyes roiling)
#49. To: no gnu taxes (#28)
Maybe we can actually clean up the air to the point we can get rid of the blue haze for which the Blue Ridge mountains were named. I don't think driving hybrids will do it, though. Maybe if we cut down all the trees...
#50. To: lucysmom (#49)
Blue haze from water vapor is one thing; a brown haze so thick we can't see the mountains a couple of miles away is another.
#51. To: mininggold (#47)
#52. To: no gnu taxes (#51)
Either term is acceptable, goof.
#53. To: lucysmom (#49)
Blue haze from water vapor
#54. To: mininggold (#52)
#55. To: no gnu taxes (#54)
Google "registered professional engineer." See how many of them are referred to that way. Even in California.
#56. To: mininggold (#52)
#57. To: no gnu taxes (#5)
And what do you think is the excuse these moonbats ALWAYS use for blocking refineries? They are pandering to loons.
#58. To: mininggold (#55)
You stated with 'chemical engineer' which is rarely used with 'registered',
#59. To: no gnu taxes (#56)
(Edited)
How many dozen more examples do you need to convince yourself you are an idiot?
#60. To: mininggold (#59)
search for "registered chemical engineer"
#61. To: no gnu taxes (#60)
I'm convinced you can cut and paste well and impersonate an engineer that will pass muster with the stupids.
#62. To: lucysmom (#57)
Whats the excuse for closing down nearly half the refineries in the US over the past thirty years rather than expand and upgrade them....
#63. To: no gnu taxes (#53)
The blue haze is from the reactions of natural VOCs from trees such as isoprene to form ozone and fine particulate matter.
#64. To: Badeye (#62)
Easy. Those 'envirowackos' as you put it, ensured regulations that make it virtually impossible to 'upgrade'. Thats why.
#65. To: lucysmom (#63)
#66. To: no gnu taxes (#65)
You think SUVs and coal fired power plants were causing it then?
#67. To: lucysmom (#66)
#68. To: no gnu taxes (#67)
#69. To: lucysmom (#68)
#70. To: no gnu taxes (#69)
#71. To: reaganisright (#70)
#72. To: lucysmom (#68)
#73. To: reaganisright, Fred Mertz (#70)
We used to have a steel company in Sparrows Point, MD called Bethlehem Steel. Put out of business by labor unions demanding huge salaries and the EPA. The EPA set air pollution standards which the company met. Next year they dropped the numbers and all the millions of equipment was scrap and the entire job had to be re-done.
#74. To: lucysmom (#64)
Easy. Those 'envirowackos' as you put it, ensured regulations that make it virtually impossible to 'upgrade'. Thats why.
#75. To: Badeye (#74)
And that has what to do with the blocking of upgrades to make the refineries more efficent and enviromentally friendly?
#76. To: lucysmom (#75)
#77. To: lucysmom (#64)
And yet, right here in liberal, San Francisco bay area, we have oil refineries.
#78. To: mininggold (#77)
....that are constantly being upgraded too.
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