LF: For many, California not so golden

Title: For many, California not so golden
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URL Source: http://www.dailynews.com/ci_14022041
Published: Jun 10, 2010
Author: Dana Bartholomew, Staff Writer
Post Date: 2010-06-10 14:32:22 by Jethro Tull
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Comments: 112

For many, California not so golden

Posted: 12/17/2009 11:18:28 PM PST

People may be streaming out of California in record numbers, but don't tell that to the commuters on a crowded Metro Red Line platform in North Hollywood on Thursday, Dec. 17, 2009.

With the California economy sputtering at half- speed, population growth has slowed to a crawl as residents head east in search of jobs, according to a report released Thursday.

Following a recent trend of decelerating population growth, the state grew less than 1 percent over the past year — the slowest in a decade, according to the state Department of Finance.

Los Angeles County, a former destination of choice for immigrants, faced a growing exodus of residents but still grew at 0.65 percent as births outnumbered deaths.

Demographers say the robust birth rate will cause even more residents in the next decade to leave Los Angeles for other counties and states in search of cheaper homes and better jobs.

"L.A. County will probably follow the state trend, with a lot of (births), and immigration," said Mary Heim, head demographer for the Department of Finance. "(But) you'll probably continue to lose residents to other states and counties.

"They initially come to L.A. to join a network of other immigrants, then they begin to want what other Americans want — a house in the suburbs, a backyard, good schools for their families, parks."

In the fiscal year ending in July, the California population increased to 38,487,889 residents, an increase of 0.93 percent.

That translates to 353,000 more residents — the current population of Santa Ana — living within the Golden State.

While 15 counties posted growth from

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immigration, 25 counties recorded a net loss of out-migration. The state gained 179,000 new foreign immigrants and lost 142,000 residents to other states.

By comparison, Los Angeles County grew by almost 68,000 residents — the equivalent populations of Yorba Linda or San Clemente - to 10.4 million.

But the county lost more residents than it gained through migration. In all, it netted 89,000 through natural increases, or births over deaths.

And it lost nearly 22,000 residents who hit the road for elsewhere.

Likewise, the population growth slowed across most of Southern California, including Orange, Riverside, San Bernardino and Riverside counties.

The state's largest population boost was in Imperial County, where natural increases and immigration pushed the number of residents to nearly 182,000, a 2.2 percent spike.

Throughout the decade, the state grew by 4.6 million residents, an increase of 13.6 percent. In comparison, Los Angeles County grew by 800,000 residents, or just 8.3 percent.

Heim predicted California will return to its normal population growth of between 1.2 percent and 1.5 percent, or 500,000 a year, as the economy turns a corner in the upcoming decade.

She said when the economy is in the doldrums, fewer people can afford to move to California, where there are fewer jobs.

Other demographers blamed the region's phlegmatic growth - and the number of immigrants who have fled to greener pastures in such states as Georgia, Florida and Texas and parts of the Midwest - on the poor economy and the state's financial woes.

"The trend is out, meaning that (of) the people who live in California, more are leaving for other states, especially from Los Angeles County," said Eugene Turner, a geographer at California State University, Northridge, who specializes in population studies. "Jobs. High cost of living. ... We've been particularly hard hit.

"California has lost the golden glow it used to have."

Daniel Blake, an emeritus professor in economics and former director of the San Fernando Valley Economic Research Center at CSUN, agreed.

California and Los Angeles County have higher unemployment rates than most other parts of the U.S., he said. While more residents flee the Golden State for better opportunities elsewhere, fewer foreign immigrants are landing here because of the job market.

And fewer residents from out of state now move to California because jobs in home construction have vanished during the longest recession in half a century.

"It's totally jobs related. They don't come if there aren't jobs," Blake said. "Hopefully, the economy will return as vigorously as it was. We need jobs to attract populations from outside the U.S., and from inside the U.S."

Blake said the state budget cuts to colleges and universities could also affect future population growth.

"If we don't start funding education, we won't have the labor force to attract businesses," he said. "And without businesses, no jobs.

"And without the jobs, the population moves on."

Most counties in Southern California saw little population growth over the past year.

I spent ten days in Annaheim last fall. Did all the things you do in the LA area, had a very good time. But it was expensive, the taxes on each receipt were staggering, traffic's a mess, and a wildfire the last two days gave me a first hand experience of what THATS like.

Didn't have any tremors, thankfully. No problem with crime, but then again I was in a high end area courtesy of a client/host.

What I did notice was just how unhappy those living there actually are. They love the weather. They love the views (for the most part anyway). They love the ocean/mountain proximity.

But they despise their state and local governments. Whenever it came up..you could see it in their eyes, hear it the voices...not to mention the comments. And without fail they would mention thinking about, if not actually planning, to leave.

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#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

You have no idea how great this state was before the invasion of millions of east coasters.

Stone is free to remove it as he sees fit. I can't from this end. What you did, however, puts both you personally and Stone in a big vat of legal stew. It was tremendously dopey, but to be expected from a O'PILE. Good luck.

Sounds like life in NYC, sans the weather. They have had their day and both are shot. I couldn't get out of the Big Apple fast enough.

Actually, I do from my time in San Diego in the fall of 1977, and then spending two weeks for Christmas/New Years up in San Luis Obispo.

San Diego back then was only around 100,000 total residents as I recall. Downtown was nothing but prostition store fronts, but outside of that it was magnficent. Balboa Park was a great place to spend the day or afternoon. From what I'm told, only a fool does that these days, but I don't have any first hand experience the last 30 years to say for certain.

Used to rent motorcycles downtown SD, and ride striaght up the coast for the weekend, camping on the beaches. With a serviceman's ID card, it was about $50 bucks for a 350 Honda for the weekend.

Worked there for a few months in the mid 80's. Drove all over the city due to the type of work, and up the Hudson River Valley. Saw all there was to see. I can say I've 'been there, done that' but I could never, ever live there. If I'm going to wander around in 'canyons' all day, I'll move out west, not endure man made ones.

Changing a published authors written word is illegal. Thats the bottom line. Its one thing to play games with a headline, its another thing entirely when you cross the line and change the 'copy' itself.

Especially when it is changed in such a way as to portray the AUTHOR as a highlyl biased, highly insensitive, partisan.

Bullshit. It's all under the same terms of use, Cunt. I know copyright law. I know terms of fair use. And I know that the same shit goes on at your site.

Stop trying to play lawyer. Every one on this site knows what you and Boofer are trying to do.

I warned Stone about the Tic. I couldn't believe it when I read it. I'm not sure if Tic can remove that insertion now or not, but the ramifications aren't pretty.

I'm not sure but I think I may be banned at 4um. It shows I'm logged in but I am authorized (0) posts per day. Maybe I'm on a timeout. Learning of your banning yesterday must have ticked me off; I was out of character with my profanity last night.

Stone warned him about his language recently. One poster has already left over it, not sure if it was anti groupie's words or not, however.

Thank God most of thse leaving are the same east coast pussies. Tribes usually follow the trail blazers until the going gets tough then they are off to leach off others.

Wrong. I banned him, I didn't ask him to be banned. It's not the 1st time, and he's welcome to reapply. You, OTOH, not so much.

As a native Californian, I was always annoyed by east cost immigrants to the state that move here in droves and then complained about the crowding like it was the state's fault.

I would never apologize to you no matter how many times Christine requested, for comparing you to Karl Rove. The comparison aptly fits and not in a positive way. Poor little Pussy, good thing you've got your mommy to protect you from big bad posters.

The last job I had, not one coworker was a native Californian yet they all commuted to work from out of town and complained about the traffic.

I remember when 680 opened, for a couple of years hardly a car in sight then a few years later after all the subdivisions were built housing all the newly arrived east coast emigrants, gridlock twice a day.

He's one big rough, tough internet bully, king of his domain(name). A real tribute to the toughness of the typical conservative as he hides behind a skirt, much like the GOP wants to hide behind Palin's.

I'm certain he got picked on and beat up in middle school. There is no other explanation. Now he's a monster...a monster pussy. LOLOL

He's one big tough cop, see... he knows how to post a scene from the Godfather, but there is only one person on this board at this time who has actually met Francis and was given by him a movie manuscript. I was actually invited to an Easter celebration at his place in Rutherford 15 years ago, but I didn't go because I was busy building a house.

Your tribal deceit and dishonesty shows. That's why most posters on 4um rarely reply to your innane spam.

So you are in the Google spam business too. What keywords are you earning airline points for, this week?

I guess most 'business' there (and evidently most other posting too as shown by the lack of traffic) needs to be conducted out of range of public knowledge. How ominous is that? Maybe it's really a division of the DHS since the troll is very sensitive about being compared to Karl Rove. lol

Sot, if comparing me to Rove is your idea of annoying me, please continue. Coming from an Obamaphile like you it's like water off a duck's back.

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Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.

Like I said before liberal Spammer, you have no intellect or insight. How's your Alinsky buds?

I'm not attempting to manipulate political discourse on forums through the use of bannings and intimidation. That's you and your Alinsky supporters' department as shown by your comment.

Yet somehow you found your way there. LOLOL Like I said having no personal insight is a prerequisite for a Palindroid.

She's much more up your alley being the type who refuses to accept responsibility for her own actions and being another Alinsky worshipper.

Stone, AKA, Big Dog, (I blew away one of his PMs yesterday not knowing he did a makeover. Sorry) said he back as of Sunday, so the Tic is playing martyr.

So you are an internet stalker too. Do you Palindroids have ANY redeeming qualities?

Seriously, you're all over the map today. Zero sense of humor with an ADD like posting flow. Is it Happy Hour in that open sewer of a state you live in?

I'm spot on or you wouldn't be replying with your Neocon buds watching your back, heh Karl? Alinsky and Palin... what a great combination.

You need to pray to one of your prophets for some insight and a clue or two, Mr. Alinsky

Maybe he's bored of the site. You and boof aren't exactly stimulating conversationalists.

Yep the one thing you always need is a good validation or two. The practice of Saul Alinsky's principles is alive and well in the Palindroids.

But their propaganda techniques are among the most effective: get rid of dissenting opinions and inconvenient facts.. Alinsky at it's finest.

They manipulate Stoner aka BIG GUN like he's Play-Doh. What a disappointment he's turning out to be.

Oh horseshit, Freddie. Your boy did something exceedingly stupid and juvenile, that has real world consequences if the publisher of the article found out. It could have cause a problem for Stoner legally.

You know it as well as anyone. Stop making excuses for anti groupie being a fucking juvenile in an forum.

I'm not here to be a conversationalist. I was invited here to offer a vision of small government to the ObamaPILES. They'll get out of the wagon because we taxpayers aren't going pull their saggy asses any longer. I'm not sure how long this exorcism will take, but patience is a virtue with me.

An acolyte of Alinsky would be a tad more subtle about the who, what, and why he mingles with the sheep. I've been quite upfront, so once again your analogy is flawed.

Chuckles......the incessant rah rah blind dronings of 2 legged obama yardsigns like dwarf, GO65, AbdulBoner and Brian S are deemed "political discourse".

Sheesh....sites like this and LP used to have a few relatively coherent opposing view posters.... before idiots like these Democrat Underground retreads appeared.

Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. Below is positively the most hilariously BS overflowing comment from the resident obamunist spent-condom EVER:) "This is WHY I left the GOP in the mid 90's. ." Dwarf

The political oafs you mentioned decided to elect a Brilliant Black Genius who they KNEW would FIX their problems and those left behind by a White Racist and Supremacist Society. To date we've been treated to two years of a BLACK Racist, War Mongering, Lazy LYING Oil Company Shrew from Kenya. Strike back this November and put these Leftist cheerleaders back under the rocks they crawled out from under.

You know I speak the truth on this. Your boy screwed up, got slapped for it. As he should have.

This is the first time I recall looking anxiously toward fall right past the Summer months (which are my favorite months)

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Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.

Nobody. anti groupie got his ass spanked for altering the content of a written article...not the 'headline' the actually CONTENT. Inserted 'obsese' into a sentence naming the Governor of New Jersey, Christie. AKA Stone suspended him til tomorrow. Seems appropriate, but you know the anti groupie. He believes he's entitled to do whatever he wants, wherever he wants, with no regard to petty concepts like copywrite infringement and legal trouble for site owners.... (chuckle)

C) You're a little fucking pussy, Boof. You're that little Chihuahua hiding behind the bulldog. You're not a man. You're a whining little fucking pisspot.

D) Altering titles is a COPYRIGHT infringement as well. Neglecting to credit the author is a COPYRIGHT infringement. In fact, when you copy anything from a website, it's the WEBSITE CONTENT that is COPYRIGHTED and not just the article. Unless you have explicit permission from the OWNER of the CONTENT, you've violated the law.

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Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.

No it isn't. The title here is a representation of what we think the article is about. The entire article with the title is at the link.