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Title: Obama and the Trouble With Voting 'Present' (looks more like Jimmy Carter all the time.)
Source: WSJ
URL Source: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100 ... od=WSJ_Opinion_BelowLEFTSecond
Published: Jun 10, 2010
Author: Karl Rove
Post Date: 2010-06-10 11:57:28 by Badeye
Keywords: None
Views: 14457
Comments: 62

Obama and the Trouble With Voting 'Present' Weak and radical, the president looks more like Jimmy Carter all the time.

By KARL ROVE When Barack Obama announced he was running for president in February 2007, Nathan Gonzales of the Rothenberg Political Report wrote "Obama's history of voting 'present'" in Springfield, Ill.—even on some of the most controversial and politically explosive issues . . . raises questions . . . Voting 'present' is one of the three options in the Illinois Legislature (along with 'yes' and 'no') but it's almost never an option for the occupant of the Oval Office."

Mr. Gonzales's words were prescient. Barack Obama may now be president, but at times he appears to be merely present. That has been the case with his response to the environmental catastrophe unfolding in the Gulf of Mexico. The president was late recognizing the disaster's magnitude, late in visiting the region, late in approving requests by Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, and late in feigning outrage. He has never offered an independent plan to stop the leak.

Mr. Obama also seems disinterested in hearing from experts about the spill. The White House's "Deep Water Horizon Response Timeline" doesn't list a single meeting between Mr. Obama and industry experts, though he did send Energy Secretary Steven Chu and others to Houston May 12 to meet with BP and others.

.Yet while the president says his Noble Prize-winning energy secretary has been "examining every contingency," Mr. Chu was clueless about BP's plans to install a cap over the well to funnel oil to a vessel on the surface. As the New York Times reported last Saturday, "After the cap was successfully placed, Mr. Chu wondered aloud why oil was still spewing." BP engineers had to explain that oil was still coming from vents that "would be closed very slowly to ensure that mounting pressure would not force the cap off."

Even now, Mr. Obama looks like a spectator, albeit an angry one, barking at White House aides to "plug the damn hole" (now that's a good idea no one has thought of) and telling NBC's Matt Lauer he's in search of an "ass to kick."

But the main political behind that's being kicked is Mr. Obama's. The latest ABC News/Washington Post poll says Americans give the federal government a 69% negative rating for its handling of the spill, compared to a 62% negative rating for Washington's handling of Katrina in August 2005.

This pattern of being merely present has been apparent almost since the first days of the Obama presidency. He may unveil his mighty teleprompter to help pass what Congress has drafted, but this White House seems strangely disconnected from crafting legislation.

.For example, last year's stimulus was largely drafted by House Appropriations Chairman David Obey of Wisconsin, one of Congress's most liberal members. As a result, what passed was a wasteful spending bill rather than an economic growth package.

And faced with a growing mountain of debt, Mr. Obama passed the issue off to an ineffectual commission whose report is due after the election. After growing the size of the federal government by a quarter in just over a year, he now says he'd like agencies to try to find 5% cuts in their budgets.

.On other controversies—the attempt of high-ranking aides to entice candidates not to challenge incumbent Democratic senators, the details of cap-and-trade legislation, the resolution of big conflicts between the House and Senate versions of financial regulation, and the drafting of comprehensive immigration reform—Mr. Obama appears to be removed, distant and detached, unwilling or unable to provide the adult supervision Washington requires.

The result is that he receives a 38% approval and 52% disapproval rating on his handling of the economy in the latest Economist/YouGov poll. The GOP enjoys a nine-point lead over Democrats in Rasmussen's latest generic ballot.

This is causing the public to revisit concerns it's had about Mr. Obama since he clinched the Democratic nomination in March 2008. Then the ABC/Washington Post Poll reported that 46% of Americans found him too "inexperienced" to be an effective president, the highest number ever for a major party presidential nominee. In October, just before the election, ABC/Washington Post asked the question again: 44% called Mr. Obama too inexperienced. On issue after issue, Mr. Obama is providing plenty of evidence to validate those concerns.

Americans might hope the president's diffidence when it comes to the hard work of government might mitigate his more extreme liberal tendencies. No such luck. Mr. Obama is an odd mixture of passivity and radicalism. He's happy to be a cheerleader for policies (like nationalizing health care) that many Americans find dangerously liberal.

The country has had another president both weak and radical at the same time: Jimmy Carter.

Mr. Rove, the former senior adviser and deputy chief of staff to President George W. Bush, is the author of "Courage and Consequence" (Threshold Editions, 2010).

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#2. To: All (#0)

The result is that he receives a 38% approval and 52% disapproval rating on his handling of the economy in the latest Economist/YouGov poll. The GOP enjoys a nine-point lead over Democrats in Rasmussen's latest generic ballot.

This is causing the public to revisit concerns it's had about Mr. Obama since he clinched the Democratic nomination in March 2008.

The question for this administration is what do they do about this?

If this trend continues, its not just a landslide for the GOP in November. Its a one term failed Presidency.

Clinton knew better than this. So did Reagan.

Just 10 days prior to the explosion, the Obama administration’s regulators gave the oil rig a pass, and last year the Obama administration granted BP a National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) exemption for its drilling operation.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-10   12:04:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: go65 (#1)

Hilarious that they want Boy Blunder to be held blameless while accusing Obama of going down JC Blvd...

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace
I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-10   12:14:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Badeye (#0)

Okay I'll give your Google keywords a hit.

Making the world safe for United Fruit.

mininggold  posted on  2010-06-10   12:16:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: mininggold (#4)

Last time I did, it was 23 million plus hits.

Just 10 days prior to the explosion, the Obama administration’s regulators gave the oil rig a pass, and last year the Obama administration granted BP a National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) exemption for its drilling operation.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-10   12:19:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: war (#3)

Hilarious that they want Boy Blunder to be held blameless while accusing Obama of going down JC Blvd...

All previous oil regulations and policies were replaced on January 20, 2009 as evidenced by the behaviors seen on this forum.

Making the world safe for United Fruit.

mininggold  posted on  2010-06-10   12:20:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Badeye (#5)

Last time I did, it was 23 million plus hits.

You are really earning your keep. LOL

Making the world safe for United Fruit.

mininggold  posted on  2010-06-10   12:21:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: mininggold (#6)

The irony is the fact nobody gives a damn about Bush at this point. Least of all posters like me.

He's been out of office going on 17 months. I'm more worried about 17 months FROM NOW.

Just 10 days prior to the explosion, the Obama administration’s regulators gave the oil rig a pass, and last year the Obama administration granted BP a National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) exemption for its drilling operation.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-10   12:22:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Badeye (#2)

The question for this administration is what do they do about this?

Do about what? the approval rating?

Is Rove really telling others they should worry about approval ratings?

Hey, even in this poll his approval rating is still better than Gov. Christie in NJ.

Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.

go65  posted on  2010-06-10   12:23:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Badeye (#2)

The result is that he receives a 38% approval and 52% disapproval rating on his handling of the economy in the latest Economist/YouGov poll. The GOP enjoys a nine-point lead over Democrats in Rasmussen's latest generic ballot.

The unpopular Carter was right about energy while the ever popular Reagan trashed his policies that would have put us in an energy independent position.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-06-10   12:25:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Badeye (#0)

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#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace
I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-10   12:34:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: lucysmom (#10)

Actually, he accelerated some and trashed others.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace
I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-10   12:34:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Badeye (#8)

The irony is the fact nobody gives a damn about Bush at this point. Least of all posters like me.

Yet while you claim that you disapproved of the GOP from 2001-2006 and voted to FIRE them, you post crap from the guy who was the chief architect of the biggest expansion of federal spending since LBJ.

Are you posting us because you want us to take Rove seriously, or because you are trying to show how FoS he is?

Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.

go65  posted on  2010-06-10   12:35:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: lucysmom (#10)

The unpopular Carter was right about energy while the ever popular Reagan trashed his policies that would have put us in an energy independent position

Iran brought Carter down, not his domestic policies. That's why so many on the internet are trying the same tactic and comparisons (as if Google hits makes an issue legitimate). They just can't get over the millions of hits on "Bush is a miserable failure" and are trying to copycat spam.

Their biggest problem is they think Sarah is another Reagan. Well, I do believe she would like to be an actress...

Making the world safe for United Fruit.

mininggold  posted on  2010-06-10   12:36:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Badeye (#8)

The irony is the fact nobody gives a damn about Bush at this point. Least of all posters like me.

He's been out of office going on 17 months. I'm more worried about 17 months FROM NOW.

If that is their pervasive attitude you can kiss the Pubbies goodbye for a long, long time. There's NO evidence of housecleaning going on.

Making the world safe for United Fruit.

mininggold  posted on  2010-06-10   12:42:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: lucysmom (#10)

The unpopular Carter was right about energy

'The worlds oil reserves will be depleted by the year 2000.'

Jimmy Carter, late 1970's

No, he like Gore, just made things up on this topic.

Just 10 days prior to the explosion, the Obama administration’s regulators gave the oil rig a pass, and last year the Obama administration granted BP a National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) exemption for its drilling operation.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-10   12:42:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: go65 (#13)

Yet while you claim that you disapproved of the GOP from 2001-2006 and voted to FIRE them, you post crap from the guy who was the chief architect of the biggest expansion of federal spending since LBJ.

I post a lot of articles from the right of the political spectrum.

I'm not interested in your view of Rove. I am interested in what you might have to say about anything contained in the column.

Just 10 days prior to the explosion, the Obama administration’s regulators gave the oil rig a pass, and last year the Obama administration granted BP a National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) exemption for its drilling operation.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-10   12:44:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Badeye (#16)

'The worlds oil reserves will be depleted by the year 2000.'

Jimmy Carter, late 1970's

All he had was the technology of the time to give him data and we had just gone through a huge oil crisis and shortages in '73. Plus the whole theory of the creation of the planet has changed since then. Time and learning marches on.

Making the world safe for United Fruit.

mininggold  posted on  2010-06-10   12:46:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Badeye (#17)

I'm not interested in your view of Rove. I am interested in what you might have to say about anything contained in the column.

You need to drop the thread manipulation shit.

Making the world safe for United Fruit.

mininggold  posted on  2010-06-10   12:48:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: mininggold (#18)

All he had was the technology of the time to give him data

Yes, and that technology did not support his statement. At ANY time. Look it up.

Just 10 days prior to the explosion, the Obama administration’s regulators gave the oil rig a pass, and last year the Obama administration granted BP a National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) exemption for its drilling operation.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-10   12:49:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: mininggold (#19)

I'm not interested in your view of Rove. I am interested in what you might have to say about anything contained in the column. You need to drop the thread manipulation shit.

You need to kiss my ass...(laughing)

Just 10 days prior to the explosion, the Obama administration’s regulators gave the oil rig a pass, and last year the Obama administration granted BP a National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) exemption for its drilling operation.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-10   12:50:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Badeye (#21)

You need to kiss my ass...(laughing)

More tribal baloney from a Hagee supporter. LOL

Making the world safe for United Fruit.

mininggold  posted on  2010-06-10   12:52:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: mininggold (#22)

I don't know who hagee is. And I don't have time for the juvie crap from you today. I'll take you off the filter Monday.

Just 10 days prior to the explosion, the Obama administration’s regulators gave the oil rig a pass, and last year the Obama administration granted BP a National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) exemption for its drilling operation.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-10   12:53:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Badeye (#16)

'The worlds oil reserves will be depleted by the year 2000.'

The easy stuff is gone.

Here's what Carter said:

"Collectively, nothing could be more important than this question of energy," Carter said during a rare presidential appearance before a congressional committee.

"I would guess that our entire status as a leading nation in the world will depend on the role that we play in energy and environment in the future."

Carter, who in 1977 famously declared the fight for energy independence to be "the moral equivalent of war," told members of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee that reaching that goal is crucial to ending the country's "vulnerability to possible pressures and blackmail."

Right now, he noted, "whether we admit it or not, we are very careful not to aggravate our major oil suppliers."

lucysmom  posted on  2010-06-10   12:55:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Badeye (#16)

'The worlds oil reserves will be depleted by the year 2000.'

What he ACTUALLY said:

World consumption of oil is still going up. If it were possible to keep it rising during the 1970s and 1980s by 5 percent a year as it has in the past, we could use up all the proven reserves of oil in the entire world by the end of the next decade.

~~~~~

He was off by two years...the amount of proven reserves on the day of his speech WERE used up by 1992.

Here were are 33 years after Carter's election having the same debate.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace
I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-10   12:56:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Badeye (#20)

Yes, and that technology did not support his statement. At ANY time. Look it up.

Sure it did as the data was coming directly from the oil companies. I don't have to look it up.... I had relatives and friends working in the field at the time.

A good friend 92 years old just died, he retired from his oil prospector job during Ford as he was convinced that there would be little more oil to obtain in the future. He became a physics instructor at the local college trying to interest students in alternative energy engineering careers and retired at the age of 78.

Making the world safe for United Fruit.

mininggold  posted on  2010-06-10   13:00:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Badeye (#23)

I don't know who hagee is. And I don't have time for the juvie crap from you today. I'll take you off the filter Monday.

Ask me if I give a damn if you choose to remain ignorant or not.

Making the world safe for United Fruit.

mininggold  posted on  2010-06-10   13:03:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Badeye (#0)

This is causing the public to revisit concerns it's had about Mr. Obama since he clinched the Democratic nomination in March 2008.

This d'bag doesn't know it's the Democrat party not the Democratic party.

Stupid is as stupid does. These clowns need help wiping their ass.

reaganisright  posted on  2010-06-10   13:09:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: reaganisright (#28)

WRONG GUMP

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace
I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-10   13:11:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Badeye (#17)

I'm not interested in your view of Rove. I am interested in what you might have to say about anything contained in the column.

I find Rove to be one of the dumber people on the planet, so there you go.

This guy inherited GOP control of the Congress and the White House. And look what he did with it.

Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.

go65  posted on  2010-06-10   13:12:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: war (#25)

Here were are 33 years after Carter's election having the same debate

But don't talk about Bush. He's been gone for over a year.

Bartcoprules  posted on  2010-06-10   13:18:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Bartcoprules, badeye (#31)

But don't talk about Bush. He's been gone for over a year.

Chuckle.

The irony is lost on badeye, isn't it?

Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.

go65  posted on  2010-06-10   13:19:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: mininggold (#19)

This is Boof's site...you didn't know that?

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace
I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-10   13:23:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: go65 (#30)

I find Rove to be one of the dumber people on the planet, so there you go.

Remember when

President George W. Bush called him "the architect" of his reelection victory and he has been the president's chief strategist from the beginning. But Karl Rove is much more than a political guru, he is the single most powerful policy advisor in the White House. Frontline and The Washington Post joined forces to trace the political history and modus operandi of the man who has been on the inside of every political and policy decision of the Bush administration, including the current battles on Social Security, taxes, and tort reform. For Rove -- observers say -- enactment of the Bush agenda is a way to win the biggest prize of all: a permanent Republican majority.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-06-10   13:24:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: go65 (#32) (Edited)

The irony is lost on badeye, isn't it?

No more so than with the great copyright debacle...

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace
I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-10   13:26:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Bartcoprules (#31)

You watch last night?

I was at my son's practice and when Kane "scored" I said out loud..."Wow...I've never seen anyone celebrate missing the net just like they've just won the cup!!!"

Oops...

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace
I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-10   13:27:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: lucysmom (#24)

He also said 'that'. Yep.

Bottom line is the oil reserves on this planet are vast, and not anywhere near' depletion' in our lifetimes, or our childrens'.

Proving Carter was not just wrong, but spectacularly so.

ONe of the many reasons he's consider the worst US President post WWII.

Just 10 days prior to the explosion, the Obama administration’s regulators gave the oil rig a pass, and last year the Obama administration granted BP a National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) exemption for its drilling operation.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-10   13:31:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: go65 (#30)

I'm not interested in your view of Rove. I am interested in what you might have to say about anything contained in the column.

Just 10 days prior to the explosion, the Obama administration’s regulators gave the oil rig a pass, and last year the Obama administration granted BP a National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) exemption for its drilling operation.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-10   13:34:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Bartcoprules (#31)

Hi bitch.

Just 10 days prior to the explosion, the Obama administration’s regulators gave the oil rig a pass, and last year the Obama administration granted BP a National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) exemption for its drilling operation.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-10   13:34:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: go65 (#32)

I didn't bring Carter up, kid.

Just 10 days prior to the explosion, the Obama administration’s regulators gave the oil rig a pass, and last year the Obama administration granted BP a National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) exemption for its drilling operation.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-10   13:35:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Badeye, lucysmom (#37)

See how he "works"...he starts with a lie, e.g. Carter said "this", and then tries to paint the world view from that wall.

Psychologsts have a word for that.

Has he PM'd you yet to show you what a great guy he is?

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace
I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-10   13:36:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: war (#29)

WRONG GUMP

Gump must be calling Karl Rove a d'bag as boofer didn't give the attribution to the second part of the article. Anyway it's from the WSJ so maybe he has a point.

Making the world safe for United Fruit.

mininggold  posted on  2010-06-10   13:37:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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